Dave’s Picks Volume 16: Springfield Civic Center, Springfield, MA 3/28/73 - SOLD OUT
We're wrapping up the 2015 Dave's Picks series with a real whopper! That's right, Dave's Picks Volume 16: Springfield Civic Center, Springfield, MA 3/28/73 - the show that nearly didn't happen - is packed with 30 songs and lengthy ones to boot. As liner note scribe Dennis McNally claims this one's got a "classic 1973 'problem': almost too much good material... they simply did not know how to stop." From the rare "Cumberland Blues" opener barreling into a first set packed with new-at-the-time tunes to an unparalleled second set sequence of "Weather Report Suite">a massively beautiful atonal 31-minute "Dark Star">"Eyes of the World">"Playing In the Band" - an atypical show closer with its extreme energy - we are certain you will agree that this one's bountiful.
Recorded by Kidd Candelario and mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman, Dave's Picks Vol. 16 ships out November 1st. Like all our 2015 Dave's Picks releases, it's also limited to 16,500 individually numbered copies - and these have been known to sell out in matter of days - so you'll want to grab a copy while you can!
3 Disc set
Limited to 16,500 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: November 1, 2015
Springfield Civic Center, Springfield, MA 3/28/73
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Having been to several live shows from 1972 through 1974, I'd have to say 3/28/73 (# 16) is a terrific selection. China > Rider is wonderful. Disc 3 excels, especially the jam during Playin. David hasn't picked any dogs, as I have enjoyed 2/24/74 and 4/22/78 nearly as much. The 1972 show probably thrilled me the least; however, with the bonus material I do play it often. There is just so much newer material introduced during 1973 and 1974 that these shows shine more than 1972. Looking forward to Fresno '74 and the Orpheum from 1976. I still play Jerry Moore's audience recording from 10/1/76 on a regular basis, considering it one of the best bootlegs I've ever heard.
Back in time to 11/17/72. I guess it really depends on what suits your fancy. Thanks Dead.net!
Yep. Onward.. from 3/73 to 7/74.
....and it's been fun. Ah, fuk it. It's been real fun. But, soon this board will fade away. They will announce DaP 17 tomorrow around noon. See ya there!!
LoveJerry, have you heard many of these? I often heard Dark Star's shadows in the jam sections of these Birdsongs, and came to think these were the petri dishes upon which the 10/89 Dark Star return was cultured and formed...
These and the storming Let It Grows really capped many a First Set in those years with power and grace.
Hammond, no doubt, 72 is all darn near perfect. Aside from Pig's abscence, I can always tell a Fall '72 show by its distinctive Bird Song. In my judgment, this was the best period, better than '71 &'73 because of Jerry's unique intro riff, which doesn't appear to have been developed in '71, and which for some strange reason is dropped in '73 (at least on the couple of sound boards I have - there are no official '73 Bird Songs). Beyond the intro riff, Jerry and Keith also have some wonderful moments in the instrumental wanderings. Bird Song is really just an unparalleled song for me, too much jam and too fast to be quite called a ballad, too slow to be a rocker, but it's a face melter of the highest order. Come to think of it, 1972 Bird Song might be the closest thing to Dark Star they ever did.
Deadfall - yes I think those are enough selections to get a flavor of the two eras, but to feel the full effect of Europe '72, you need to hear it all. I think it would make the difference in which way a swing voter might lean. Same goes for DaP 11.
Funny you mentioned Half Step bringing tears. Not DP 34, but DaP 1. Right at the first "across the Rio Grandio" part. No other version does it for me. It's also my first version I ever knew. Is DP 34 your first? Have you heard DaP 1?
Deadfall, you've got enough. The major difference to my ears is simply the presence of Pig. But it's a false choice. 1972 is a great year start to finish.
Good stuff boys. As I ponder the spring 72 vs. fall 72 comparison I find myself wondering how big of a sample size from each period does one need to have in order to formulate and validate their argument for either or? Surely a good question for the 7-headed dead brain trust to tackle. As for spring 72, I own DP 30, dap 14, the standard Europe 72 double disker, rocking the Rhein, stepping out, and hundred year haul. For Fall 72, I have veneta, DP 23, DP 11, DP 36, and dap 11. Do u guys think that my Arsenal from each season is comprehensive enough to wager an opinion? I think I'm right on the qualifying cusp but yet again there are so many shows from the Europe tour I haven't heard. My initial leaning is towards spring largely due to its superior crisp sound quality both musically and vocally. The caution factor also cannot be ignored, as well as some truly transcendent dark stars, which 72 fall also possesses. Disk 4 from stepping out is such a gem. But veneta and DP 36 are a couple all timers as well. Tomorrow I may mean the other way. Can't really go wrong.
On another note, does the Half step from DP 34 bring tears to anyone else's eyes?
Workingman's gets my vote, just ahead of AB.
Spring '72 of course - Pigpen! (and I was lucky enough to be there).
I need to spend more time with 16 .... I liked disc 3 but found 1 and 2 average. Hopefully more listening will change my view:
On another matter .... AB slightly over WD. I am not sure why I think that specifically. Maybe the songs sound more polished or mature.... I don't know??? I just prefer AB.
For me, I slightly prefer fall 72 over E72.
Hey Folks. I appreciate the interesting responses, regarding your various listening preferences (Workingman's Dead vs American Beauty and Spring '72 vs Fall '72). Of course, we all know ya can't go wrong selecting either album/season, and it seems we all agree that both album/season options are exceptional (again, as we all know very well). I enjoyed reading through the many posts. Most importantly, it was nice to learn who agreed with me (e.g. Workingman's Dead and Fall '72). Regardless, it's safe to assume that I could safely stay in my "GD 1972 Bubble" forever (except for the occasions when 1973s ring my bell).
Regarding 1973: I'm shocked to read anyone disrespect Dave's Picks 16. This show is a Top 3-4 Dave's Picks release, in my opinion. Come on y'all...disc three is f-in epic!
Good evening, and thanks again.
Finally listened to 16 as im still trying to get thru boxilla. I did like DS on 16 but other than that I thought it was a decent show but nothing special. The reviews on this page were more generally very positive .... I'm just didn't hear it. I'll give it a second listen.
everybody's got one, and most of them stink! :)
But here are some of mine anyway.
2015 Dave's Picks in my order of enjoyment:
Vol. 15: 1978
Vol. 14: 1972
Vol. 13: 1974
Vol. 16: 1973
American Beauty over Workingman's Dead
Spring 1972 over the fall.
Starting my weekend early with 2/27/69 - no matter how many times i've heard that DS in my life it just never gets old. So many memories tied to listening to that version on live dead. I've mentioned before that my youngest son loves Pigpen songs and he's already asked me to play the lovelight from this night a couple times, so it's shaping up to be a nice morning all around....
As a completely random aside, The Beatles now being on Spotify has made my average work day about 100x more pleasurable!
I'm surprised Dave's 16 didn't get better feedback also. Like 15, it exceeded my expectations.
There are a few of its neighbors that I recall liking more when I listened to this tour a few years back. Makes me think '73 is going to make more of a presence in this series going forward. 73 is the new 72?
As far as complaining about the series.. please.. spare us.
Dead82 has a great post on the subscription page abut the actual costs of this compared to the tape trading days of the last century. What a great post and puts this in great perspective.
Can't understand the habitual complaints about the Dave's Picks. DaP 16 is fantastic. Need to listen to Disc 3 a few more times immersed in the planars, some of the most melodic feedback I can recall.
DaP 18 is something real special. A two-fer? Sign me up! (Oh wait, I did that back in November!) Best $100 I spend each year.
I rationalize it as dues for the thousands of shows I've received for free.
Whatever it takes to keep them coming, do that. Thanks Dave, Jeff and TPTB!
the night after (7/18) is my favorite show of year (guessing it's many other people's favorite show too).
I was always sort of luke warm about the rest of the previous nights in this run but sometimes you need to listen to something with fresh ears i guess. I'm really excited about getting my hands on a professionally cleaned up version!
My gut tells me the last two picks of 2016 will both be something from 69-71 time period (then again, my gut can't be trusted. It's currently housing a nasty sandwich from Pret).
Medicated? That's all you had to say my man. You keep me medicated and I'll just as soon stay out of the round table discussions.
I'm looking forward to DaP 18 as well. I actually have some trouble getting into '76 shows, and I was disappointed with DaP 4 (mainly the sound, but where the sound wanes, so does my attention). I was just thinking the other day that Dave is due for another '76 pick. I'm happy to hear good things about the selection for DaP 18. As I listened to the logside chat, I kept waiting for him to tell me that Help/Slp/Franklin's was in there, but he never did - not for the main show, not for the disc 3 filler, and not for the bonus disc. But it sounds like it's not needed. Let's hope the audio is where it needs to be, and I'm ready to roll....one.
...I am happy to relinquish my New Deadland Presidential nomination, however I still hold that an appointed seven-headed supermind would be the ultimate way to go - this way we avoid any major power grabs and everything must go through a like minded committee which will always be properly medicated at the start of each and every round table discussion.
That detail out of the way, I will also chime in on DaP 18 here - very happy with that one, as some of you are aware the '76 shows all around are some of my favorite (6/11 being my ultimate but alas Dave has told me this one is not in the vault; That second set starting with St Stephen all the way thorough Eyes of the World and then on to close the with Sunshine Daydream. Nuff said.)
the start to '77 is also extremely worthy of release as has been touted here recently - the 2/26/77 gig has some awesome moments, inclusive of the bust-out of multiple songs for the first time. I vividly recall listening to a beat up tape of this show my junior year of college up at UVM, as I was putting my room together in our borderline slumlord Victorian (my bedroom was literally the old kitchen pantry - it was the least expensive room in the house, for obvious reasons), and i remember as I was tearing up the carpet The Music Never Stopped came on from this show, and it just totally caught me off guard. Keith kept coming back for more as the jam built at the end and it truly hooked me in that moment. Ever since it has been a favorite show; the Eyes> Dancin' is freakin awesome and one of the only versions I can recall where they drop the end portion of the disco jam which leads to a bit of a smoother coda back into the song before it ends. Also Jerry is just wah-wah'ing it up like mad the entire time. Would be happy with this one, for sure.
Ok, rant over/
Nice to get 2 full shows for DaP18. And that 7/18 show the last night of the same run seems amazing and sounds like we'll get it in multi-track someday - crazy-good setlist. I'm not a big '76 guy but the setlist seems like it's a good fit for '76. Can't wait to hear it.
Zomby - You nailed it - AB is mostly studio creations, WD is live songs/live feel. Many of those songs just don't translate as well to live performance. Box of Rain, Attics, Till the Morning Comes, Operator were played live but never came close to the perfection achieved on American Beauty.
Cued up "Help on the Way" from 6/14/76 this morning - hadn't heard it forever - I forgot how much they take their time in Slipknot with that spacey jam - good stuff. I love '76 even though I think you REALLY have to choose carefully. Much of '76 seems a bit tentative, like it's a rehearsal, (which is actually how I would describe Fare Thee Well - kinda tentative, pace sometimes a little slow).
Actually, to use a "GD year" analogy to compare Fare thee Well vs Dead and Company, I would say '76 reminds me of Fare Thee Well (measured but still really good with some great moments), while '77 more resembles Dead and Co. (more confident and rockin' with higher highs).
Good to hear!
About half-way through (or a little more, I can't remember), Phil starts messing around like he's prone to do, and in response Jerry then initiates an interesting theme of which I don't know the name (if it even has one), but they come back to the main theme right before Franklin's.
I'm no expert, I only know when I hear something I like. Anyway, worth a listen.
Have a good one...
Funny you mentioned 6/14/76. I just burned a soundboard show from each year 1970-1978 for a buddy. I included the 6/17/76 show, because it was the best sounding show from '76 that I could find on short notice; but no Help at that show, so it was the only year that I included a "bonus disc" for, and don't you know it was from the 6/14 show. That being said, I haven't had a chance to give it a thorough listen, but I will now - thanks.
And thanks to the man who put me on to a real nice soundboard collection - you have my vote for New Deadland's first President. Oh wait, I think I made that promise to Sixtus...heh, well I'd make a great politician anyway - making promises I can neither remember nor keep.
I agree about 6/9/77, it's good, but not quite as great as it is heralded to be.
2/26/77 and 4/23/77 are also favorites of mine. Both NEED to be released, as soon as possible.
But for something a little different, quite a bit mellower actually, but goes the distance, give 6/14/76 a try as well (best heard within its proper context, of course).
If it ain't got that swing.
One of my fav's from '77, but as far as I know, its not in the vault.
Wow. 2 weeks ago I went on a Help /Slip/ Franklin's marathon to see if I could find a winner, but they were all pretty good. Now I have a great soundboard from 2/26/77, and wow. The opening chords to Help start a little rough, but it's bliss after that,especially the 8 minute Slipknot! Who knew they were already in May form that early (hint - not me).
Interestingly, this Slipknot! has me reconsidering 6/9/77. All of the sudden this closer examination has me questioning the mix itself; while crystal clear, something feels off, as if the sum of the parts yield don't meld into the sonic cohesion that this board from 2/26 produces (the closest comparison is 5/22 DP 3, which is too short). The strange thing is that this triad had been my favorite of the monster medley jams for along time, but I feel like I'm hearing this stuff for the first time.
4/23 and 5/9 are also solid, but not as quite as cool.
2/26 also has a fantastic Eyes of the World with some cool stuff from Phil, including a lick from that Motown tune It's Alright. Also dig the Wheel for '77, but it's not the dreamy pillow of clouds carpet ride from Feb '78 on Dick's 18 (how can it be - the Wolf made that song, along with my boy Keith's pie-anner).
But yeah, 2/26/77 - good show.
I am looking into a portable wall of sound for my car. Its the only solution.
Reminds me of an inverse portable Cone Of Silence from the '70's (if there are any Get Smart aficionado's out there).
I feel your pain JimMD. The day Jerry died Phil blew one of my Klipschs during Scarlet from 5-8-77. It was the least he could do...
Farsi Island is officially off the list and no longer being considered as an option for vault relocation and general GD related mayhem.
I think we should stick to a pacific island, much safer.
Damn they are off to a hot start in 2016....
Dave has a new video up on the subscription page folks.
I am not acknowledging Phil until he buys me new speakers for my car.
DP35 The Houseboat Tapes disc 4 has Phil cranked and dominating your speakers. He leads the band through an Other One>Uncle>Other One that heavily features his crushing chords throughout. Even the Dew has hints of his 72 heaviness. And don't skip the 25 minute Lovelight. He's an orchestra unto himself.
Interesting, I don't listen to either much, because the live versions surpass the studio (except of course where there are no live versions or few). For me, Box of Rain is the only survivor, and to some extent Ripple. I love the lone Ladies & Gentlemen version of Ripple probably more than the studio version. For Candyman, I used to go with 2/24/74 over the studio version, but now go for 4/15/70 over studio (but agree, it is a great song in the studio). I also prefer the Steppin' Out mix of Brokedown Palace from 4/11/72 as well as the 5/25/72 version of it.
Great thought process on AB vs WMD. Asking me to choose is like asking a parent to say which child they like best. Impossible. I am partial to that part in FOTD when grisman 'trickles' in with the mandolin, and that line in Ripple when hunter tells us the fountain was not made by the hands of man still gives me goosebumps, no matter the version.
I still suspect nanno is playing a cruel trick on us or setting up this experiment for his PHD thesis in psych on cruel and unusual animal behavior.
If so, its safe to say this will end poorly for us all.
oh.. and thanks deadicated. I bet we are not alone on this one.
Jim - agree completely on Bob's 335; never sounded the same ever since his guitar change.
Zomby Woff - Great point about context of studio vs. live. The tune on WD that's a challenge for me to listen to is Casey Jones. I do love the studio version of UJB and consider it definitive, but the live ones did often go to the absolute elsewhere, no? I liked what they did with High Time in the early days as a segue from I Know You Rider, but the studio is really good, too. The banjo in Cumberland is boss - best early version. Love Dire Wolf, but Black Peter gets smoked when Phil adds the harmony on the bridge. Between New Speedway and Easy Wind, the latter became recklessly abandoned beast live (but is great, too, in the studio), whereas Speedway never had highs or lows.
I agree completely with everything you said about AB. I do like how Phil slightly altered the delivery of "what do you want me to do?" live, but otherwise it's definitive. And, like you said, the only ones to be bettered were Sugar Magnolia and Truckin'.
Ridin' the fence on the Europe vs. Fall, eh? Well, which concert would you rather have attended, 4/08 or 8/27?
I had to think quite a while about the question regarding Workingman's Dead vs. American Beauty. Instinctually, my reply was American Beauty. I recognized the fact that I have listened to American Beauty many more times than I have listened to Workingman's Dead. But why?
I think what it boils down to is that I prefer live versions of almost all of the Workingman's Dead songs, but prefer the studio versions of several of the songs on American Beauty.
On Workingman's Dead, I only really identify one song with the studio version, New Speedway Boogie. And maybe Easy Wind. the reason is that they are both very cool songs, but didn't get played live often enough for me to have live versions in mind that I would go to before listening to the studio version. For the rest of the album, though, I can think of dozens of live versions I would go to before the studio version.
On American Beauty, however, there are several songs where the album track is the go-to version of the song. In some instances for the same reason as described above (not played live often enough to have an alternative (Operator, Til The Morning Comes, Attics) and in other instances because the album version is just so sonically perfect it never really got surpassed in a live performance (my opinion; yours will vary), for example Box of Rain, Candyman, Ripple, and Brokedown Palace. The only songs on American Beauty that I could rattle off a laundry list of live performances I would rather listen to are Truckin', Sugar Magnolia, and maybe Friend of the Devil.
As for Spring vs. Fall of '72...I refuse to pick. It's all incredibly good.
I always liked the tone the boys got in that era. The Nash Strat and Bobby's Gibson 335 sounded great together.
Jerry's guitars would evolve (as would Phil's) and I can't say the Nash Strat is my absolute favorite, but I liked it a lot.
I can say this is my favorite Bob Weir period. I just loved the sound he was getting in those years.. so warm, like bread pudding for the soul.
I look back at those years with reference and warmth.
Really interesting piece on this guitar in the hardback book included with the Europe 72 box. It was given to Garcia in late 70 by Graham Nash. It was heavily modified as detailed in the write up. Used heavily during that tour it apparently made its last onstage appearance August 1, 1973.
This comment took me a minute - you're talking about the guitar (actually, the one that is my photo, left), not the song Alligator. I didn't picture the Alligator Strat in Jerry's hands in March '73 because of the full sound, but I just checked and it seems he didn't start playing Doug Irwin's "Wolf" until May '73. So he played the Alligator on Europe in '72 and on 3/28/72/DaP16.
Strats and Les Paul's sound sooo different - it's testament to Jerry's ear and feel and touch that he was always able to take whatever guitar and make either sound like him. He was very particular about guitar and didn't like Strats or Les Pauls, thus the Travis Bean (White, '75-78), followed by Doug Irwin guitars exclusively after '78. (Wolf/Irwin guitars in general were more a Les Paul style - humbuckers, stop-tail instead of whammy bar, heavy tone woods instead of a thin plank of ash, headstock configuration,)
Anyway I think it's cool that E'72 and Spring '73 are on the Strat. Jerry took a thin-sounding instrument and made it sing with mucho gusto.
Dick states that this early Noember run surpassed the May 77 shows and it's easy to see why. The Candyman in set one has that wonderful tone for the solo Jerry was fond of using but instead of the normal shimmering, sometimes stinging solo, we get a relaxed gentle one instead. Amazingly enough it works perfect for that delivery also. This Eyes is reminiscent of 74 as far as the cadence and feel go. The 77 groove is definitely there but the pacing is 74 all the way. Just wish they still did the post jam from 74. Never understood why they didn't continue doing that as some of the later versions in 75 and 77 beg for it! Phil solos throughout Eyes taking his time with his note selections while still holding down the bottom. Way extended solo for Phil at the end of Eyes. Beautiful! Jerry seems to be MIA for a couple minutes so I guess Phil decided to step in. When Jerry comes back, he noodles quietly behind Phil for a minute before the drummers take over with S & D.
The remainder of disc 2 is from a couple nights earlier from the 2nd. In stark contrast, the energy level is waaay up. The other end of the spectrum from the 5th. The Might As Well from the first set is a hip shaker for sure. Phil then pages "Mr. Sandoz Dilaudid" to come backstage. Turns out, he wasn't needed as the next 36 minute block of music will attest. The Estimated tone of Garcia's guitar is bright yet spooky and the rest of the band stays punchy and alert as we get one of THOSE solos from Jerry during the Estimated outro.
Thanks to DL for including the first set of this show on DaP12 with the excellent Scarlet>Fire!
As an added bonus check out the Scarlet>Fire from 11-6 as its a barn-burner!
Just heard this DP. I don't know now, I just don't know how it gets much better.
Love the Alligator guitar above all, but that's just me...
3 vs 3 and one abstain
.... Just in case anyone is interested ...
I'll have to take American Beauty over Working Man's Dead. I love both, but for me, truly, AB shines. I was 14 years old when I got introduced. I have vivid memories of Box of Rain illuminating my walks to school through my Sony walkman. In my opinion, you can not find a better Box of Rain than on this album. Combine that with Ripple, FOTD, Brokedown Palace, Operator ... Etc. this album is warm, accessible and luminescent. It glows with the gold of sunshine!!!
Spring '72 vs. Fall '72. My opinion and preference is not as strong as above, however, for me, it is Fall '72. Two main reasons (1) I am more familiar with Sept. '72 Dick's Picks than the full Europe tour, and (2) Bird Song. ... Veneta is in a category all on it's own.
Looking forward to the formal announcement of DaP17 / 18 ... And a whole new board. It would be cool to get some acoustic material in 2016.
First thing I'm gonna do with my winnings: build a time machine out of a VW bus so I can go back and see every Dead show ever. (Maybe even bring back some of Owsley's finest.)
That 88 MPH thing might give me some trouble though...
Who wants to feed my cats while I'm gone? Oh, wait- nevermind.
4 vs. 3.
What I want to know oh... how does the song go.
Glad I'm not the only one that does that.
Interesting a 7 headed like minded super brain!
Fascinating as seven means so so very much. Such as completion or the final end, also the "seeker", the "thinker", the "searcher of truth." Can we find 7 that can review, sort, decide on these issues?
4 vs. 3?
edit: another thought, the finder of truth has made it to the final end, complete.
Wait...what was I talking about?
A quick aside:
Not sure anyone has posted,
Last night I decided to catch up on the 12/10 Big Bang Theory "The Earworm Reverberation." Sheldon called the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame to ask about the title of a song stuck in his head, and of course they blew him off. He is upset, to which Leonard says something to the effect that "Rock n Roll, their known for their customer service." Made me think of some past quotes on here. Cracked me up.
I always feel like someone's watching me...
Despite the potential for the next global geopolitical conflict, we should be safely housed within our impenetrable Dead Island (we'll pretend the jump across the moat doesn't exist, or is wider than anyone can jump except Michael Jordan from early '90s).
And KeithFan I am more than flattered at your call for President, however I feel we should in fact create something akin to a democratically voted super brain that includes at least 7 like-minded individuals, noting the odd number of course to assist with stalemate decisions. KeithFan for archivist, however, wins a vote should he remain unchallenged in the run.
Such things as the assignment of superiority of one album over the other, including American Beauty vs. Workingman's, could easily be debated and set forth as proclamation in a very organized manner. these are all good things people!
Giving this some thought, I agree that Nanno is playing a cruel trick on us all.
This is one of those unsolvable riddles. One Man is right, how can you vote against those '72 Cautions? How can you not love the way the mandolin trickles in on Friend of the Devil, and New Speedway Boogie over Ripple? Yet.. the subtle banjo in the background on Cumberland Blues is sublime and what about those Sept. 72 monsters? All the Cray supercomputers in the world could not solve this quandary.
This is how the Hatfield and McCoy battle started. Its like the butterfly effect.. a small almost unobservable difference of opinion that will manifest itself into the next global, geopolitical conflict.