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ONE BAD APPLE.....
We had in and out privileges in '83 and could go up to our hotel room during the break....until stupid people, aka bad apples, ruined it for the rest. They stole the hand stamp they were using. Imagine being able to run to your room upstairs, crack a cold one, grab extra batteries, etc. during the break.
And so it goes...
bad apples???
Guess what? Poor DeadHeads scamming the handstamp does not equate to bad apples. Hilton Heads going up to their room for more batteries and a beer during the break? I am so sorry for your inconvenience. You flew to every show, huh?
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poor Deadheads scamming the handstamp is theft. Like dine and dash and defrauding an innkeeper. It is not, in my view, righteous behavior. Getting a miracle is one thing. Stealing it is quite another.
I was only at the Hult for the first year, and I drove. With a friend. And gave a newly met Head a ride home. I completely agree the scene in '83 was fabulous. If very wet. Didn't stay at the Hilton, either, but have great memories of Dennis Sims playing Dead tunes on the piano in the lobby.
Silva Hall
Was there for the first night of '83. Drove in from Lewiston, Idaho. I was the PD of KMOK-FM and John Napier was our morning guy. His sister, I believe, was the PR manager for the Hult Center and I was able to buy tickets through him/her.
At the time, the Hult was brand new and Ken Kesey came on and introduced the Hult Center to the crowd rather than the band (the band needed no intro). I recall the news stories saying that the Hult management was worried about the DeadHeads harming the seats. The story in the RG went on to say that there was no problem because nobody actually sat in the seats!
Drove over once again in '84 for all shows thanks to getting tix through Tim Silven. What a great run - thunder machine and all! I recall during one of the shows, some guys from Germany sitting behind us who were able to get tix the day of the show commenting, "why don't WE ever get shows like this?"
I live in a beautiful place here on Maui but I really miss Eugene and the Hult (Silva Hall).
I hope my donor brick is still there and legible! It's been about a quarter century now since it first got placed. Yikes!
Next thread - Cuthbert Amphitheater :-)
Technically,
If a show is sold out, the inventory (tickets) is depleted. If zero is the inventory, how do you steal zero? Trespassing would be the crime, not stealing.
Truthfully, when I was going to shows there were approximately three thousand fans or family members that would be at EVERY show, even if it was on the moon. With that in mind, why book a show at Marin Civic or Berkeley Community? I understand the intimacy of the small venue, but if that is the desired effect, why announce the show on the GD Hotline? Certainly the Boys could've filled any intimate venue by word of mouth. Promoting a show on the Hotline beckons fans from across the continent.When Neil Young plays a tiny venue he announces it a day or two in advance. Those close enough can go but there isn't a global migration targeting the concert venue.
Expecting a fan to NOT try to get in is kind of unrealistic. And with so many ways to scam in, which do you approve of and which do you frown upon? Bribing security is certainly paying for admission, for instance.
If tickets were at the box office I would make that my first option, but if they were all gone, alternatives need to be reviewed.
Just some thoughts from another perspective.
Funny that we would have this exchange on The Hult page, as I had friends in Eugene who procured my tickets for all of these shows. Usually I wouldn't have advance tickets.
Agree with Glen
Also at many many shows and if there were tickets to be had it was always the first option. Provided we had the cash to spend. Other wise it was always find away in to every show. I do not consider it stealing the band made a lot of money off all of us. The venue was the obstacle not the band.
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