Grateful Dead

30 Days of Dead November 24

Today's Song

China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider
Hint: A twosome that was joined in 1969 for virtually its entire history until 1995 with very few exceptions

Answer

Champaign-Urbana, IL, Assembly Hall - University Of Illinois
2/21/1973
It was in 1973 when China>Rider really started stretching out, as heard here and the one from a week later on Dick's Picks 28

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Great birthday present!!

This is one of the best birthday presents ever. My birthday --24th-- and the free MP3 is from my first Dead concert ever, at U of I. WOW!!

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You guys hints are Brilliant...

Clueless until I found it and Again, my mind is blown...as soon as I found it and syncd it up sounding like The Beatles and all...all your guys hints me like a Gallagher joke. WHAM!BANG!BOOM! Smiles, laughing and proverbial watermelon all over me. I love this, you all Rock my Deadxperience World! Stay awesome cause you make people smile...you make me smile and I know if I'm smiling someone else is too!

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subtle hint...

My hint was kinda subtle....once I "assembled" all the possible choices... :-)

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Smiles all around

he said with a grin

Gen
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The Hints

Ok, so after finally getting the show after listening to 20 or so shows in this time period, I realized in hindsight that you guys had been dropping hints all day long. Some good ones today. And liked fourwindsblow's more subtle CCR hint today! Thanks guys.

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they don't play 'em quite like that any more

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Do The Darkest!

During the Red Rocks run in '83, a kid a bit younger than myself kept calling out for "Dark Star", which was not atypical, even though we had not heard a DS since NYE '81. It started to get a little tiresome after a while. Then he started calling "Do the darkest", and that just made us crack up. A 30-40 something old Head put his hand on the kid's shoulder, gave him a Santa Claus look, "Son, I think that's enough", and the kid disappeared into the crowd. We laughed about "Do the darkest" for years. It wouldn't be a rainbow without the full spectrum of colors, nor a show without the full spectrum of heads.

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brilliant hint from fourwindsblow

not that I minded listening to china rider all morning

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What Joy

Knew right off time frame, though found lots to go through. Settled in and started listening, jotting down dates as I went. After feeling comfortable I covered the possibles, listened to todays song again. Now I realize my list isn't songs similar to todays, as much as one's I really liked! Now I have to go back through them again. Darned if I'm not really looking forward to it though. I know I'll find it, as well as end up with a great list of CC/IKYR's.

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Same here

I did almost the same thing. Listened to bits and pieces of almost an entire year, went back and listened again and realized I was probably a year off. Like you, I found some serious China/Rider's though. The hunt is the best part of the game.

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thanks

hint led me right to it. was born in there 10 years before this show. wouldn't see them 'til 6 years after this show up in mad town.

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being grateful

so i felt a little as though i started a riot the other day with my grumpy snark at Corrina. and then i turned out to find the show with ease and yes, enjoy the song and the show. even discovered 'Matilda', which i don't think i'd ever heard !!

and now i'm here to say that i have always loved 'Esau', as it had a very strong impression on me the first time i heard it (Ventura 83, i guess).

and i just found it first guess, because i love this show so much!

anyway, what i wanted to point out is the thing i've noticed about our comments discusssions:

this is the only place on the interwebs that we don't have to deal with trolls (or flamewars or spam).

even those of us who are complaining about a song are still doing so in the family manner. (after all, there's always that guy behind you yelling for 'Johnny B Goode' during the quiet part of 'Stella Blue'.) i hope we all know that each song (and each moment) is a gift, so it's good for us as family to remind each other of that.

thanks again to the band and Dave and all of you.

"what i want to know is are you kind ?"

(~);-}

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Matlida

I also discovered Matlida in my Corrina search. A glorious by product of the game is finding hidden treasures.

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No riot, Ned, just strong

No riot, Ned, just strong opinions. As you note, it's nice that we can have a conversation here about a subject we all love without a lot of in-fighting or trolling. Pretty rare these days.
Peace and good music to all.

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Kind To The Bones..

well said deadheadned!

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China>Rider!

Break out the bubbly! Could not take my rest til I got this one.

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Long search process

I sure did find some great China Cats, jams, and Riders before I found this gem. I'm almost feeling groovy! Rhythm guitar mix is wonderful: who was running the board mix back then: Kidd?

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Wow...

What a year for the dead!!! Quickly becoming my favorite.

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30 days is turning my wife into a seasoned Dead Head!!

yesterday w/ Esau ... She helped me figure out that it wasn't '83-'84 b/c the roller skate / real estate line wasn't there! We narrowed it down to '85 after goin' through all the 86-87 stuff and found a lot of good shows that we bookmarked on archive! This is a great game bc we are searchin through shows and when we find a good one we jam it!

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Esau 6/24/85

Oh yes, I was there! Luckily under the roof. Anybody else remember Mickey noodling around with his synthesizers between sets while rain and lightning moved in over the Ohio river behind the stage? The 8 hour slog diagonally across the entire state of Ohio the next day to get to the show in Cleveland the following night, back in the days of the dreaded "double nickel"? How about the "trouble ahead Jerry in red" stickers on that tour? I guess people were worried about his health already that far back. And rightly so as we would find out the next year.

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PHIL !!!!!

Phil is a beast on this duo!! Once I assembled all the possible choices, this wasn't as hard as I first thought.... :-)

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Doo doo doo

...lookin' out my back door.

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Thanks for the help

led me right to it! Listening to more from that show now, pretty sweet!

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...and out my window

My former apartment window looked over the city toward this distinctive venue. Too bad I was only seven when this was played. My first (rock) concert, and the only time I saw the Grateful Dead, was nearly a decade later at their subsequent appearance here. Both eras are, for me, high points in their long and changing career. I wish the Archive contained the later show ("my" show!) in its entirety or Dave would Pick it for release, but I am exceedingly thankful for the massive amount of Grateful Dead music which *is* available, both free and for sale. Each year's 30 Days of Dead has been full of excellent music, and even those tracks I don't enjoy as much or at all are worth a listen (although interestingly, I don't see many calls for "Space" as a daily selection).

Thank you for continuing to uplift listeners' lives like no other band!
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November 25 PS:
...and now we have a bit of "Space" (time for me to hit the restroom)! For those interested in the venue, http://www.news-gazette.com/store/news-gazette-products/books/saucer-coming-rest-half-century-assembly-hall.html is a new book, published prior to the upcoming renovation of what is now called "State Farm Center".

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Yesterday's Hint

So did "gem" in yesterday's hint have any meaning?
When I saw that hint I thought "rubies are gems, and they're red and they're rocks" which narrowed the choices down to three shows (I think). But obviously it wasn't any of them. The CCR clue was a dead give away (but I had gotten it by then due to Deadant's more subtle clue that narrowed the choices down to four or five shows).

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Cryptickle

I was hoping it wasn't too obvious, but Im glad you noticed lol. Kinda have to at least know your lyrics to see that one. And get through my plea for all things peaceful weeee=)Fill that cup! From cryptickle onward is a worthy listen for yesterday show too. I haven't gotten today's yet, cant seem to narrow it down, I have heard a lot of hilarious get in your seat outtakes tho hehe. Not sure about "gem."

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A few nice surprises in this show!

Eureka.. Break out the champagne! A sweet set list. Was prepared to spend hours on end today even with a narrowed down time frame. Got lucky.

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Too much too fast

You start partying like that and your gunna get ill real fast my friend...pace yourself

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Esau was a fun second set song too

03/30/83 Warfield Theater - San Francisco, CA

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Sweeet!

Lovin' it! Only 6 days left, sad to see November come to a close....

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oops

should have started this earlier than 1:45, only 522 shows to choose from. lets see, ok number one....

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yeah

good thing tomorrow's Sunday!

oops, make that today I guess :0

Even narrowing it down to a reasonable time frame, it was played very frequently. And some are missing from Archive. Hope it's a fruitful search, gonna be a long long crazy crazy night

Well, it already is paying off, I found a wicked 25min PITB that I am bookmarking so I can go back and listen later.

A true labor of love, this "game". I love November!!!!
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Edit: Oooh, it's out there, and it synchs pretty nice. Is that how Beatles got their trippy sound, by layering the same music over top of itself? Sure sounds like a similar effect..

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nice recording

what a great version and killer recording, phil really shines through. thanks for this one.

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on the science of music and our minds

an interesting piece at Scientific American:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/mind-guest-blog/2013/11/18/the-ancient-marriage-between-music-movement-and-mood

and i guess no none will be complaining about a 'China>Rider' !

(~);-}

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Thanks Ned

Enjoyed that. Lots of food for thought! I know music brings me out of a funk quicker than anything else, and also have found that when I'm jammin' to a good set in the car I tend to drive a lot faster.

Then the comment at the end (...the power of music in rituals to promote bonding within communities) got me thinking about the addition of psychedelics and other mind altering substances to the mix of motion and music and pleasure in the context of the Dead shows we saw and how community develops due to that shared experience, even though the personal details of that experience are different. And although we each have our own favorite songs, there are some that do seem to universally get everyone on their feet, case in point today's China>Rider. Or say a Shakedown.

Not sure where I'm going with this, just wanted to share some thoughts and say Thank You for the interesting read.

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