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    dude, did you send Columbo to speak with the ticket agent? there is no way the dead wold play in China before they played in a US city... peace. "What's the point of calling shots, this cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of styrofoam and no-one's got the time"
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    I love to hear first had adventures in what is for me unfamiliar territory. The more people who speak openly about their experiences makes the world a better and more tolerant place, I think. And no apologies necessary about "boring Germans". Trust me, I can rant about that very subject for hours, and HAVE on occasion, but I have adopted the lovely French habit of feeling compelled to state an opposite point of view, in order to foster discussion and debate. Is my opinion that German society tends to be very afraid of individualism, and being seen as different; and this fear is a "hangover" of the Nazi days. But again is only my own personal thesis.
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    Tiger Lilly, I must apologize as that statement about Germans being boring is a horrible generalization. China: Yes you do gain an appreciation of Western comforts and the value of individual life after being here. It all depends on the China you actually live in because if you are living in Shanghai and if you are an expat or in an upper income bracket then you can live very well. I could honestly say that I live better here than I could if I lived in the States. Here a made costs about $120-130 per month so you just get a couple of them and they pretty much do everything from cleaning, cooking, making beds, etc. The soft bed had to be imported from England as the Chinese enjoy sleeping on the box spring mattress! For me there are 2 China's, there is the educated class middle - upper class and there are the uneducated classes (peasants) who are the majority of the society. I must say this first, that 99% of Chinese people either upper lower anything are usually nice people. At least from my experiences I have always been treated well and in the most remote parts of China I have received smiles. I also feel safer here in China than I would in the States. There are no guns and very little crime. I can walk anywhere in the City of 24 million people at any time of the night and not have a problem. (From being on Tour I have been to every major city in the States 4-5 times if not more and I can tell you some horror stories! I will save that for another thread.) Of course there could be exceptions, but over all China is a safe place and Children are looked upon as being treasure so your children are safe as well (from kidnapping and sex offenders.) There is crime that involves murder etc but 99% of the time this is internal family dispute etc, but again this is not too common. Little respect for individual life: I agree there are 1.4 billion people here and human life is not worth too much and is very expendable. I have many horror stories some are from my own experiences, some I have read in the English New Paper, and some I have heard from word of mouth. Most of these stories take place outside of the big cities in the country side where the majority of the people live that have very little education. This is where the stories of the orphanage probabley originated from . These places exist and the thought of giving your baby away because it is a girl horrifies me. As I know many Chinese people in Shanghai who have girls and love them very much, I can say that the orphage you mention above does not represent the country as a whole. I hope that I have given you a clearer picture into China. And there were rumors that The Dead where coming to Shanghai and Beijing but it seems these rumors have died out, but if it ever comes true then this would be a good time to come to China!!!
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    And I am only 20 minutes from Frankfurt airport-so same goes for me, Trifecta. As for your comment in the Europe thread about Germans being boring, you are basically correct, but also slightly wrong. Are some really wacky Germans out there-but you just have to find them. Or are also a handful where their coolness and individuality are deeply buried, and you have to get to know them to notice-back me up on this Jodester, surely you know what I mean. Was never in China myself, but nowadays alot of the companies in my industry are producing in China, so could be that I end up paying a visit there one of these days. A friend of mine who went there said she gained a new appreciation of Western comforts and the value of individual life when she was in China. Somehow she ended up paying a visit to an orphanage that was full of deprived and unwanted little girls, said was about the saddest thing she ever saw.
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    Yeah, Chang Mai is excellent! A lot cleaner, a milder climate, and not such bad smells coming out of the sewer grates on the street corners! :) Didn't have time to make it up to Pei, next time! :) I'm based in Hamburg, just around the corner from where the Beatles honed their craft! It's a great city and highly recommended! If ur passing through at any point in time let me know beforehand so I can show u around! J Are you kind?
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    Where in Germany are you living? I travel through Germany about 3 or 4 times a year. (Usually passing through). I hate flying so I only fly Lufthansa (East Africa and Europe) as I feel completely relaxed with a German flying the plane. Anyway, China is complex and there are good times and bad times. Raging, well only time will tell. Thailand, where? Changmai or Pei? and many others. I have been to Thailand a few times, but the most interesting time was in Sept. 2003 when the Queen of Burma was jailed and I was on the Burma Thai boarder and wanted to enter Burma just to say i was there. Keep in mind people that this place is completely off limits just as North Korea is. At that time Burma was this far off isolated place that one would only hear about around a camp fire. I sat with my Canadian friend on a hill feasting on ______ which caused us to miss about 3 days. but when we came to it, there were tanks and armies on both sides of the boarder. So we decided to go back to pei. This was in the Golden Triangle or near it. This part of Thailand/Burma/Vietnam is considered a very sketchy place. Look it up. Now I do good business in Burma and I would never have thought that this country would ever involve me or have anything to do with my daily living. How strange and exiting life is. By the way, the point of the story is go up north.
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    I would love to check out China. Was in Thailand three and a half years ago. I love Asia! Here in Germany it's ok! Rainy though! I'm from New Zealand but actually grew up in northern Florida. Sounds like u are ragin' bro'! :) Are you kind?
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    Hi: I am right here in the USA, but my Music (online at www.archure.net quick load midi files = 40 sec) has some International variations. When studying music at College of Marin in the 1970's, given a list of sub majors, I chose "International Music", but it's mostly Rock, with some New Age, a trace of Jazz, and even some Western (Country & Western). Back in the 70's as a Music Major, I used to see some of the Dead around, at parties. I used to have these "Neptune" parties, and "Full Moon" parties (and Venus and Jupiter too). And I gave the Dead some Astrological advice, before their European tour (1977?) providing them with a list of good days based on the chart of their first performance (since lost record of chart data). I also did Stevie Nicks chart, and tried to persuade her to stick with Fleetwood Mac, she knew my girlfriend (at a different time) Kris Karlson (Artist: she painted me a Teripin Turtle, but she kept it), and Stevie knew my good friend Marcus McCallen III (Musician), who knew Bob Wier (and all the rest undoubtedly?). . So I am trying to corner the International Market, with Rock and an International, Flavor. www.archure.net (quick load) or even quicker load time http://archure.net/music/songlist.html (no gifs no graphics, the whole page loads quicker) -Archure (Chris Holley) Music for the New Millennium by ARCHURE reg tmrk www.archure.net Music for the New Millennium by ARCHURE reg tmrk www.archure.net
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    Very nice i must say. This is the perfect forum to find heads all around the world and not only in the good old U S of A!!! I am really looking forward to hearing and meeting other Deadheads in China and Asia in general. I have been away for a bit traveling and i am actually going back to the US at the end of July. New York City here i come!!! It has been 2 years since i have been back in the States so a curious to see how things are because........ I can go on and on about politics and current affairs. Anyone interested? Greg
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    anyone out there? "What's the point of calling shots, this cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of styrofoam and no-one's got the time"
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woulda loved to see that...
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Time won't change youMoney won't change you I haven't got the faintest idea Everything seems to be up in the air at this time Drugs won't change you Religion won't change you Science won't change you Looks like I can't change you I try to talk to you, to make things clear but you're not even listening to me... And it comes directly from my heart to you... I need something to change your mind.. talking heads>>>>>>>>>>>>>ah but on a serious note, i left this site with a vengeance and would like to make peace.
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welcome back! Lotta new folks here, lotta old folks too.
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welcome back. And may you, the Dalai Lama and the Irish all be blessed with the abundant gifts of the earth and sky, Peace If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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its good to be back, its good to be back............... have not been back to the site for a while.... since i have been gone phish is back on the road and have been playing very well so i hear. The Dead have been gracing the ears of whom can actually capture a glimpse of the magic. In both cases i wish i was able to hear what you guys and gales are hearing!!!!!!!! Me still im still on the road. going to the same places i usually go to, funny thing is i used to say this all the time on tour. Marye and Hal R, thank you for such a warm welcome back, it means a lot. ....and if i remember correctly ...and as man has closed himself and when he sees everything through small windows of his perception......... tThen..........but this is where i never understood Black..... anyway would love to hear about all the shows@@@
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welcome home, man. the door was always unlocked, and my old lady been holding it open anyways. THAT is old school. peace.
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Thanks man, listening to Jerry just thinking about the Jerry groove/shuffle and about to head back to Cambodia/Thailan/ and myanmar to meet up with some old friends from tour who i have not seen in YEARS. Hopefully they ful-fill my wish of bringing the eye dropper.... for my eyes of course... dam those dry eyes ; )
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Loving it!! they still sell the whip cream cartridges here (8 packs) so i have my trusty whip cream canister with me tonight working and listening to RFK 92..... gin and tonics and a little N2o, its friday!!! how
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... is giving a teaching in the high Himalaya on the Tibetan border near Bhutan. It is drawing tens of thousands of people in that region and beyond. The Chinese are having their usual conniption fit about HHDL. Long live the Dalai Lama! Free Tibet! Rangzen!
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but Nara is a lovely spot as I recall from my visit to Japan many years ago. Welcome!
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That video is Japanese- written katakana. Sweet band never heard of them. There are so many cover bands here and abouts. I met a cat recently decked out in GD tie dye a japanese brother, but he had no idea about the band. In Japan, costume is kind of a fashion statement apparently. I went to a "head shop" in Osaka recently and the store was playing brytanny spears. All abouts were Japanese hippies dawning the ethnic gear. I met this dude with dreads and a Bob shirt and asked him here, "dude do you know where i can score some..." He was totally oblivious. I wonder why they like to dress in such attire, when they have no clue about the scene. Totally baffling. There is nothing happening here but zen temples and sushi. But it's cool.
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A head shop playing Britney Spears!
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I've been frequently amused by the gaffes induced by language transliteration. Read the documentation that comes with Chinese motherboards sometime, usually good for a couple of whoppers. But I hadn't considered the parallel potential of cultural transliteration, and I think that's what may be going on in this case. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Yeah hey, one might guess love for the music starts with love for the folk that dawn the gearall started for me and seeing the kind folks at the Renaissance festival in St Petersburg at 13 then there was some motivation to get a closer look at the scene, which doesn't seem to be the case in Japan, just a huuugge costume party. Ok ok ok, they have no chance to take a closer look as we all did, but it's so funny to see it all masqueraded about like "i" got the hippy look better than you do. weird but can understand considering the circumstances. maybe there is something to learned from all of it, clothes are like costumes or signposts to identify oneself for many but here its just vaudeville, as for head shop playing spears, could be a joke on us? what do you think?
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... Ken & Barbies while on tour in the day. Ya' know -- slumming it with the Grate unwashed?
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not even that...just a masquerade of clothes and very cool looking personas that have naughtto do with the real thing but that's not the reason to come to asia right lest its goa, asia is the roots, we are just playing in its leaves....blow blow away...but it's great looking down from space.
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Them old US Blues makin' you lose your cool? Travelogue to the roof of the world starts here Feb. 15th. Not that anybody would be interested but it's time to mellow out and appreciate that not everybody on this planet buys into our reality. (Unless their idyllic island nation is going under the waves). Time to leave the acerbic observations behind, lay it way back and observe the locals. The ones who aren't too busy trying to be like us...
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Ah yes,the roof of the world.Would that be the Himalayan mountains Lamagonzo?I am looking forward to the trip....
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Well, we packed up and headed for the airport to start our Himalayan holiday last Sunday. We decided to do one last day in the lap of luxury at the Harborside Hyatt at Logan Airport in Boston so we wouldn't have to get up at midnight to make a 9am flight. Sitting in the hotel restaurant watching the Boston skyline fading in to the night sky, my wife and I held hands and thought about the less than easy travails in the third-world countries that were to come. We made the flight and noticed that American Airlines had really slipped a couple of notches in their service. The air hostesses aren't as young and pretty as they used to be and they are quite a bit more surly these days, to the point of being almost insulting. This probably has something to do with the fact that their pay has been cut to about $8.50 an hour. Every other international carrier in the world still served free alcoholic drinks on their flight except American. $6 bucks for beer and $7 for spirits. Time to start filling up those three ounce clear plastic containers! Transiting Heathrow was less than thrill. It was hard to find any white anglos working at the airport but delightful to engage the different nationalities doing every conceivable kind of menial chore. If only I could be that happy driving a bus or pushing a broom or cleaning a bathroom! From London it was on to sunny Bahrain. This was a new destination for me. I have to admit that the Arabian peninsula has never been on my list of places to visit. An American naval fleet is stationed in Manama, Bahrain. It is a major base of naval operations for projecting power throughout the Middle East. In the seat next to me was a 30-something old white guy perusing jihadi literature. By the way he was lapping it up it seemed clear where he was heading on to the Arabian peninsula. Then again, he may have been part of naval intelligence boning up on the enemy psyche. The few western people in the airport exchanged furtive, conspiratorial glances at each other during our 3.5 hour layover. We retreated to the over air-conditioned nicety of the airport luxury restaurant where we washed up in the immaculate restrooms (as opposed to the slip'n'slide, toilet-paper-less ones in the main waiting hall) and generally tried to recover after two six hour flights. Bahrain is a major transit point for the Nepali diaspora (our final destination was Kathmandu) who have been forced to look outside their poor, undeveloped country for work to support their families. From Doha and Dubai and Riyadh and Jiddha as well as Abu Dhabi and many other petro-dollar rich countries they flock to be the nannies and maids and gardeners and laborers for countries where the locals do no work and survive on a $50,000 a year dole. As Bahrain's national carrier is the only one in the Middle East to service Kathmandu, they all funnel through here for the final flight home. The happy chatter on the plane, complete with picture taking, is testament to their exuberance at finally returning home to their friends and families after periods of 2-5 years of being away. All of this is of course fueled by unlimited amounts of whiskey and beer but with unwavering camraderie, Our 22 hour ordeal finally ended yesterday at 6pm after our flight slowly glided into the Kathmandu valley passing majestic snow peaks jutting above puffy white clouds. The lower lying hills that ring the valley and have caught many a pilot by their last surprise before crashing also passed less than 100 feet below us and finally we glided gently down to the lushly verdant green fields that mark the agriculture of Nepal. We'd finally made it, only to notice that as the last streaks of sun faded there was little light to be seen in the great city of 2.5 million people. Power load-shedding had blacked out the great city except for those lucky few with solar or generators. The crush began immediately upon leaving the airport. Many skinny brown arms and hands held out with their palms outstretched, begging my wife (who is Nepali) for a handout, explaining briefly how desperately hungry they were. An unsurprising welcome home for my wife, Next: making preparations for Tibet.
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can't wait to hear more! Safe travels to you guys.
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What a treat,thank you Lamagonzo.When you wrote of an upcoming travelogue I was thinking virtual,a literary slideshow of past experiences if you will....Now I find that you are there, on the road to Tibet....Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and oservations along the way. Om Namaha Shivaya P.S. I have to tell you my seat got a little tense when I read the account of the approach into the valley,wheeee!
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I can't wait to read more too! I hope you brought your camera with you.********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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One notices the gridlocked traffic on the way out from Tribhuvan Airport in Kathmandu. Our taxi makes it's way slowly, crawling through the 6pm end-of-day traffic. I am struck by the thick knot of vehicles of every kind and description that surround us, especially the ubiquitous motorcycles that fill every available inch of space on the roadway between trucks and cars and pedestrians seeking to cling to a safe edge to the road. It always amazes me that there are extremely few accidents given that all are passing within centimeters of each other in an imperfectly orchestrated dance of chaotic movement. I thank god I am not behind the wheel having to negotiate this craziness. Somehow we make the journey safely to the home of the brother of my wife in a neighborhood called Battisputali, which means "32 Butterflies". I have yet to decipher the meaning of the name for this middle-class area which is part of Metropolitan Kathmandu, the 32 butterflies have long since fled. 100 years ago it must have been a very beautiful place. I have helped my wife's brother complete their home and as it is now almost finished we are given a very gracious and warm welcome. My brother-in-law has three kids and cares for both his very elderly parents in what used to be a very small 4 room house. Now it has three floors and he has moved his own bed to the top floor bedroom for us to use during our visit. I am very moved at this spirit of hospitality and wonder if I would have done the same had the roles been reversed. I would like to think so... Nepal is a country of 32 million people, yet it seems like everybody knows everybody else. It is common for strangers on the street to address each other as dai (brother) if a man and didi (elder sister) if a woman older than oneself and bohini (younger sister) if a woman younger than oneself. The common courtesy and respect shown to each other in this, the 13th poorest country in the world, is truly moving. I will never forget the time I dropped a one rupee note in a 10 person capacity common taxi (known as a "tuk-tuk") and a young man ran after me to return it. I looked at him and asked why he had bothered for such a small amount? He looked to me with innocent eyes and said "It doesn't matter the amount, it belongs to you! The Kathmandu Valley has been designate by the United Nations as a World Heritage Site because of the many examples of ancient architecture and art scattered throughout the valley. Millions upon millions of dollars have been poured in to the country through government and NGO and UN grants. Unfortunately, Nepal is also one of the most corrupt countries in the world and perhaps 90% of the money has been raked off by government officials on the the take. As a result there has been little done to preserve the common heritage of Nepal's incredible artisans, not to mention building an infrastructure that would ease the burden of the ever-increasing population and showcase these treasures. The UN has now classified Kathmandu as the prime example of what not to do in a 25 year plan for sustainable development. The valley itself is quite small and studies have shown that the maximum sustainable amount of motorized vehicles is 25,000. At last count there was more than 60,000 plying the pitched and potholed roads throughout the valley. As a result of petrol shortages, greedy gasoline dealers have mixed kerosene with the petrol to stretch it for more profit. Unfortunately this has the effect of creating a deadly pollution in the atmosphere and fouling the catalytic converters of cars. Now, one in three denizens of the valley has a respiratory disease and this percentage can only increase. One would be foolish is they didn't wear some kind of mask having to daily breathe in the polluted air. It is unfortunate that only about 1 in 10 choose to don some kind of protection. My own wife's scarred (from tuberculosis) lungs would already have given out had I not moved her from her native land. I am now in the process of checking many different tour operators for getting the best price on a trip to Tibet. Anybody trying to plan such a trip would be well advised to buy their ticket to Kathmandu and then shop around for the best price. Buying a trip from a travel agent in the states or Europe is hideously expensive. It is no problem to spend 10-15k for a group tour of three weeks to Tibet (inclusive of airfare from the West). Right now I am pricing out a trip of 6 nights somewhere in the range of $1500. This will include the airfare from Kathmandu to Lhasa, airport transfer, the tour guide, 3 star hotel, breakfasts, entrance fees, admissions, and transport to several outlying areas by car. It can be difficult to know who to trust but if you do your homework and check references independently you can save a significant sum. Next time I will describe some of the main attractions to see in the Kathmandu Valley as my trip to Tibet will not start till March 2nd.
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for the travelogue Gonzo..looking forward to the next episode safe travels to you!
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Kathmandu is a city like no other in Asia. It is very hard to describe without it's own unique flavor, it's own eau de humanity. It is essentially as mix of Mongolian hordes that swept West and left a lot of genetic stock scattered around in different pools gene pools populates by Genghis Khan The Mongolians are overwhelmingly Buddhst, usually of the Nyingmapa, Kagyupa and Gelugpa sects. The other predominant religion is, of course, the Hindus, who are rather a sad and pathetic rag-tag lot, struggling to keep up thier main temples. There is also an old, animistic/shamanistic tradition called the Bon-{os which can be said to account for up to no more than 10 percent of the population composingb this aministic religion. The rest is split 60% Buddhist and 30% Hindu. Yesterday, Monday, there was a general strike because the Hindus wanted to go back to having an exclusively Hindu holiday calender, non of which make any sense but they were still ab able to pull off a mass general strike and shut down the city for a day, all for the cause of being an excvlusiveley Hindu state. That, along wuth the rolling blackouts, makes life much slower and sedate. It is this relaxed state of bering depressurized from the West that I find most interesting.
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...it may be a while before anything intelligible is uttered from these lips. The Chinese may have a problem with my Tibetan visa because I used to be a monk in the Dalai Lama's Gelugpa order for 12 years.
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Water on the Mountain. In preparation for overcoming an obstacle, perseverance furthurs. In the midst of the greatest obstructions, friends come.
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...While the Chinese don't make it hard, they do make it very expensive -- $200 for the privilege of entering a country thaty has been rapped. While I'm happy that after many years I am finally go to be able to visit the famed "Land of Snows" in a few days, it is still with a heavy heart that I'll be taking a most critical look at what changes the Chinese have wrought on the Tibetan plateau. In many ways the Tibetans exemplified what a country could do if the population followed a unified course aimed at the further evolution of the human mind, as opposed to the further development of all disciplines aimed toward the goal of material wealth and comfort. In many ways it will be sad but I'm taking it as a challenge to see how the Tibetans maintain their thousands of years old culture while still having to live up to the rigors of the mind-numbing drubbing of the human psyche through political indoctrination. The ultimate irony is that the Chinese feel they are giving a helping hand up to a backward cousin trapped into a feudal condition. Unfortunately the Chinese are the like rich uncle who has everything but peace of mind.
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So glad to read that you got your papers Lamagonzo.The last four sentences of your most recent post are pure gold.All the best for the rest of your quest....
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Which is one of the most bizarre I have ever seen anywhere in the world. Children to 20somethings fill water balloons and chuck them at unsuspecting people from rooftops. Smart people who like to stay dry stay inside and the more frolicsome roam the streets taking their chances with super-soakers (the Chinese rip-off model, of course). Still, it is part of the crazy custom and color of foreign countries that we have this vast variety of experience -- it must be a blast if you have little kids and don't happen to be wearing a threee piece suit to work! So tomorrow is the big day for me, off to Tibet. Not a grand adventure by any means but a week where the skies are a bluer blue than imaginable and the sun beats down like a hammer from the god's right hand. I haven't spoken much about the religion of Tibet but it is a highly esoteric form of hybrid Buddhist tantra with certain flavors of Bon and the remnants of an ancient kingdom of Zhangzhung (to the North & West of the country's old boundry). This is the place where powerful, learned men command the gods and not the other way around. Sadly, karma is karma. If the Tibetans made it go around, the Chinese sure do come around! And there is no god that can get in the was of fated karma!
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Which is one of the most bizarre I have ever seen anywhere in the world. Children to 20somethings fill water balloons and chuck them at unsuspecting people from rooftops. Smart people who like to stay dry stay inside and the more frolicsome roam the streets taking their chances with super-soakers (the Chinese rip-off model, of course). Still, it is part of the crazy custom and color of foreign countries that we have this vast variety of experience -- it must be a blast if you have little kids and don't happen to be wearing a threee piece suit to work! So tomorrow is the big day for me, off to Tibet. Not a grand adventure by any means but a week where the skies are a bluer blue than imaginable and the sun beats down like a hammer from the god's right hand. I haven't spoken much about the religion of Tibet but it is a highly esoteric form of hybrid Buddhist tantra with certain flavors of Bon and the remnants of an ancient kingdom of Zhangzhung (to the North & West of the country's old boundry). This is the place where powerful, learned men command the gods and not the other way around. Sadly, karma is karma. If the Tibetans made it go around, the Chinese sure do come around! And there is no god that can get in the was of fated karma!
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...here in Kathmandu. After being in the country since 2/16 just gradually devolving my western accelerated lifestyle, I feel like I've adjusted to the slower and more family oriented way of life.Tonight will be a feast of Napali food with a beautiful banquet of cake, ice cream and fresh flowers and fruits, along with the conversation of close and beloved family.
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Is about the coolest way to celebrate a birthday that I ever heard!! Have a great one, and best wishes for a happy and healthy next year of your life!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Lama....Lamagonzo....Do you read me Lamagonzo?Happy belated birthday wishes for you and positive healing vibrations for the Tibetan people....
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missed yer b-day!!....happy belated birthday!!..cake and ice cream?...how traditional! hope ya had a pleasant time!!
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Just back to Kathmandu after 5 days in Tibet. Sorry I haven't posted regularly, but there was no lack of censorship on the part of the Chiese communists (reference the latest company to see the light in China re: censorship on the net' -- Google Anyway, flew in to Lhasa from Kathmnadu and had quite a 5 day trip like no other experience in my life. The sky so close, the wind so persistent and irregular, the wildlife so plentful and adapted to the climate. The etched browns, greys and in between shades of mountains rsing off the 12k foot plateau. The old temples and archiectecture of pre-1959 , And, of course, the Tibetans themselves. Will write more soon. ~Black throated wind Keeps on pourin' in~
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My trip to Tibet in the first week of March coincided with the start of the month, March, when Tibet had it's major historical uprising (3/10/59). On that day after 8 years of harsh occupation by the Red Army, 30,000 Tibetan people surrounded the Potala Palace of the Dalai Lama in a spontaneous attempt to thwart a plan by Mao to get the Dalai Lama out of his seat of power. Through various methods such as the state oracle and the CIA, the Dalai Lama dressed in simple monks robes slipped past the Chinese cordon of troops who had begun shelling the Potala Palace with artillery.. He eventually made it to the Indian border and was given refuge by the Indian Prime Minister Nehru. In 2008 the Tibetans erupted in protest against Chinese rule in a pent up show of emotion. Their spirits have still not been broken by the military and ideological machine and a massive crackdown ensued that tortured and jailed many innocent Tibetans. When I was in the Barkor a few days ago there was a massive presence of several types of paramilitary, machine guns at the ready. The Tibetans are on notice to not agitate for their independence on no uncertain terms. To see and feel all of this was stirring and thought provoking. The Tibetan's beliefs in the Dalai Lama and in Buddhism will never be broken and this may lead to their own genocide by an uncaring Chinese godless bureaucracy.
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i dunno what, else, right now, that i can say, that would be more appropriate, other than, i wish them a great healing.
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Most people visit Tibet to observe aspects of the spiritual lives of the Tibetan people which are still very much alive today. The Chinese actually pay the monks and bankroll restoration of destroyed temples. They know the payoff will be a lot of tourist dollars . Of the Chinese leadership-- the attitude seems to have evolved to: "If you don't go down the Communist Road with us then we'll bury you as a distinct race of people within a very few generations." Enemies of this proportion and ruthless efficiency are hard to find, Uncle Joe Stalin and Pol Pot along with Hitler may not have had the commercial aspects of exploiting your opponent's religion, but they were all on the genocide track.... It is indeed a sad thing to experience first hand.
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It will always be my prayer that the culture of Tibet will survive the persection they have been subjected to.Hopefully the Chinese will pay for the physical damage they have done and the Tibetan people can survive as a " tourist attraction " until they are free to show the rest of us the WAY....
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It seems redundant to say that Tibet is a spiritual place. It is not just that Buddhism took firm root here and preserved itself for 1200 years, indeed flourishing. It has more to do with the vast, wide-open spaces, the expanse of space rollloing out infinitely from the side of a mountain and the extremely low density of people and people-made machinery. Throwing oneself back in time and living among nomads herding yaks or traders in a caravan or beautiful secret paradises lieing plainly open but blithely unobserved -- all of these are an integral part of Tibet. I was only there five days so really didn't get a chance to fully taste but the glimpse was revealing and has reenergized my spirits. I didn't know whether to go or not but now I'm absolutely certain I made the right decision (for me). Enough of my blah-blah about Tibet. Tomorrow we be departing back to the West. The culture shock is going to be a real bitch this time... My last post to wrap it up tomorrow. Sorry there were no photgraphs (wouldn't do it justice anyway!) ~ Long, long, long way to go home. ~
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From the first -class lounge at AA at Heathrow. "Delhi Belly" has caught up with me and even though we can't afford it, we splurgesd for the 1st-class lounge on the last leg of the trip home. It was a beautiful vacation to some magical places and the only sound track was the natural one of the natives, which is often the best one of all. We had a beautiful time with family, soared to mountains in Tibet and tastes the best these cultures had to offer. What is overwhelmingly apparent is that the developed world has missed it, somehow. There is a closenes in sharing when people are poor or of smaller ethnic group that is more than endearing. You have to see what I mean and everybody should take a trip outside their own culture for comparative purposes. Anyway, this report from a "Deadhead in Asia" is officially over. And it'll take a couple weeks to recover!! ~ Nailed a retread to my feet and prayed for better weather! ~