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Winterland box sets, 73&77

Does anyone know if these box sets have a limited production run? and how many produced?

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Thanks!

I wonder who should I talk to to try to get 10/28/72 Cleveland released as a Dave's Picks selection? Seems to be the ur-Philo Stomp! ; )

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OH yeah 80 - 81

Had their "Shining Stars", but we had lost the era of Jerry in his prime.

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yeah, ahem, I agree on 5/9/81 --
& no NOBODY'S JAM either
thanks for QP tip.

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Anna

You must have QuickTime installed for it to work. (At least on Windows) Is it just me or were the Dead on a hot streak in '80-'81? Thanks for the tip on the '81 show Anna, I'm going to check it out!
*update* Yeah, I just checked out 5-9-81 Drums/Space. I don't hear any philo stomp (or anything resembling), nor Nobody's Fault. Just a tribal freakout on Drums and Space going right into Truckin'. I did notice several setlists on the archive have Nobody's Fault listed before Drums, including Deadbase and the Compendium - sounded pretty non-existent if ya ask me.

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Excellent detective work GTed

And I really wanted to listen to the sound quality of the tidbit you mention from 1974, listed in Taper's. Alas, I couldn't get it to play through the Windows player. If you'll recall, Lemieux went through all that flack because TPTB were upset people were saving the pieces of Taper's Section and that player has been changed. I am left wondering if these are blocked from being played or if you have to be just a little computer savvy to find the right program to play it with... Does anybody have success playing Taper's Section this far back, or could this be an irregularity to the individual clip? Were you advising through memory, GTed, or did you actually get it to play?

I never did the Philo Stomp, but I sure did the Navarro & Casper Stomp! (Ahhh, memories of Mendocino high times).

I do remember a 1981 show I attended at Nassau where Space became a full-stomp freakout by Phil and the boys out of space into a Nobody's jam (5/9/81). That is probably as close as I ever got to a "Philo Stomp".

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Philo Stomp candidates

Nothing official, but....
I stumbled across a few shows with Phil providing some prominent bass notes: From 1972, check out the Dark Star's from St Louis, Milwaukee and Cleveland during October, as well as the KC show on 11/13/72.

From the Taper's section 6 years ago, you will want to listen to this:

http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/february-19-february-25-2007 Select the 2/24/73 tidbit from Iowa.

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I might check DP 11, 23, or 36 for good candidates. Alas, I am not sure. I will listen for the stomp next time I have one of these shows in the player... Maybe DP 28? (that's an early '73 one) Great question...

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Philo Stomp on any official releases?

I've always been a fan of the "Philo Stomp", which was basically a Phil freakout which occurred at a handful of shows at the end of the 1972 tour, usually towards the end of an "Other One". Can anybody tell me if a "Philo Stomp" has ever been officially released as either a Vault, DicksPicks, RoadTrips, or Dave's Pick's selection. Many thanks to all ; )

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Dicks Picks Vol 3 and 4 on VINYL from original tapes

Hey Gang,
We are releasing Dicks Picks vol 3 and 4 on vinyl March 19th. You can pre order now at
www.BrookvaleRecords.com

These are from the original tapes and mastered for vinyl by Jeffrey Norman. See below for his comments. Thanks for your time.

FROM THE ORIGINAL MASTER TAPES!
Mr Norman talks about mastering vol 3 and 4.
“I was excited to get the chance to remaster the early Dick’s Picks’ releases for vinyl…they were originally mastered for CD in 1995-96, and I was looking forward to hearing the 1/4″ source tapes once again, 17 years later. What I didn’t expect was the dramatic improvement the new mastering gives to these classic releases. The original CD resolution is 44.1KHz/16bit (as is any released CD), while the mastering I am now doing for the vinyl releases is 96KHz/24bit. I’m now using a state-of-the-art analog to digital converter (Pacific Microsonics Model 2)….and I’ve probably gotten better at doing this over the years! I used the original CDs as a guide for the new mastering, but when listening to the CDs I feel like I’m listening in black and white, while the new mastering feels like I’m listening in color. It’s very exciting!
A few observations: the mixes for Dick’s Picks Vol. 3 and Vol. 4 couldn’t be more different. The Pembroke Pine show (Vol.3) is quite bass strong and powerful. The Fillmore East show (2/13-14/12) on the other hand is very bright and a little bass shy. Both represent the ears and interpretations of the mixers at the time (Betty Cantor Jackson at Pembroke Pines, and Bear at the Fillmore East), and both capture the quality and excitement of these shows. I did some equalization on both shows to enhance the presentation but kept true to what the original mixers intended. As typical of all Grateful Dead shows, both these two shows are very dynamic….there’s a wide range of volume from quiet to very loud. I tried to keep the dynamics intact, with very little limiting, using limiting mainly as protection against digital overs.
In choosing the songs for each side of vinyl, the goal was to be true to the flow of the show and keep the fidelity as high as possible. There is a physical limitation to the length of a vinyl side….if it gets too long there is a loss of bass and level. Ideally the sides would be no longer than 20 minutes, and for the most part that was accomplished. However there are a few sides that are longer than ideal, but because of the way the music lays out there was no way around a few longer lengths. Also because of those side length constraints, there are some songs that had to be split in two (i.e. Vol.4 Dark Star, The Other One, and Lovelight)…sorry, you’re going to have to flip the record to get the entire “good stuff”.
Considering that these tapes are 40 years old (in the case of Vol. 4, Fillmore East), they sound phenomenal! There are some issues on the original recording that can’t be fixed (i.e.. L/R movement side to side in Vol. 3 Eyes of the World), but that in no way takes away from this great music.”

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