sorry anna, quess you are one of the poor souls who need health care, maybe in a decade or more I might need it and when I do I will pay for it, but the government ain't gonna tell me to do it cause you need health insurance.
please tone down the abusive language and name-calling. People of good will can and do differ profoundly, and if we cannot respect that here, it's time to give up.
i agree with you anna, regarding healthcare.
and others... please think of the sentiment and concern being expressed here, not necessarily the approach and language used.
He nails his balls to the ground, sews his lips together and wraps himself in barbed wire... For various causes.
This latest stunt to protest police day. The same things that are happening in Russia are happening in America. Except we don't have any performance artists with big enough balls!
Rather, they are words for people who do not wish to live up to inconvenient realities. Unkle Sam, you speak of people who are never sick and don't need medical insurance. Who are these human beings you are talking about? I have never known one person in my whole life who was never sick, never had an accident and never needed the services of the medical profession. Not one.
Further, you lump them in a group who can't have one more dime coming out of their paychecks. I can relate, totally. I'm one of those Americans who is losing. More money going out than coming in every month (because I save for retirement). This category of people is usually the working class. They are mortal and are in need of even more medical insurance due to the nature of their working class jobs. You assert that they pay out of pocket (the name for this is self-insurance) every time they are sick. But they can't afford a dime. But they pay the bill the whole time. Doesn't make sense.
The point is there are NO superhuman healthy people who never get sick. None that are never subject to accidents. Even if you hide in your own home you can slip and fall and break something. Most of us go out every day and participate in a very hazardous activity -- driving -- where other selfish people share the road with us texting and talking on their phones causing the most completely insane and avoidable accidents. You can have a history of no illness and have an accident.
God bless you if you fall into the superhuman category of people who went through war and never got a scratch or came down with any malaise in the desert of wherever they were. I am not conversant with VA benefits. Do they amount to a major medical plan for those sicknesses and accidents that have nothing to do with war? That would be a very generous benefit of serving four or six years in the armed services. As I recall my father never used his VA benefits as a major medical even though he faced kamikazes in WWII. He had to pay for insurance.
And if you really hate it so much that you might be subsidizing some other person less fortunate than yourself is it so insane to ask for a tax equal to 1% of your taxable income? You couldn't find some tax loophole out there to take care of some or all of it? Corporations sure do. There ought to be a provision that you can pay for that tax with a pre-tax dollar medical flex spending account.
The main thing I am saying is that we all get sick, sooner or later. It is denial to think that we don't. If we all pay into the pool then there is enough for everybody. If we don't then we face massively crowded emergency rooms crammed with all those people who don't pay because they never get sick or have accidents.
This is what amounts to a callous disregard for those who are less fortunate. But don't don't worry. It's a brave new world. With the human genome mapped there will be more and more precise measurements of who will become sick and who have a lesser chance of becoming so and people will pay premiums accordingly.
I have a friend who gladly pays the 1% tax in Ma.. He'd rather pay for good organic food than pay for health insurance. The point is he pays his dues and doesn't bellyache about it. I like his approach better than those who would act like right-wing talk show hosts and continually screech about those people they perceive to be leaching off of them.
The very worst thing is that with all the problems the very group we are arguing about will not sign up in sufficient numbers and the whole thing will go into a death spiral, unable to sustain itself
wow, it's a pretty tall statement to call someone greedy and wanting people to die just because you don't want to pay for their healthcare, don't you think?
Some are in this position like a lot of people who have never had healthcare insurance and never needed it, ever. If those people could afford the cost of insurance, don't you think that they would have it? A lot of people can't afford one more dime coming out of their take home pay, especially if there is nothing wrong with them. When ever they needed a medical service they went to the doctor or specialist and paid for it right then, yes it was a financial hit, but never did they not pay, and this worked for most of those people. Now all, even the healthy, are being forced to participate with the people who desperately need insurance because they are unhealthy. The key word here is "forced". I know many veterans who never used their va benefits, but now, they all will as to not have to pay a "fine" (tax) for not having insurance, this will burden an all ready overtaxed situation. Soon, the same ones that fought and were injured keeping this country safe will have to wait in line to get what they were promised when they signed their life away to protect everyone who lives in this country's lifestyle. I feel sorry for the uninsured, the preexisting conditions, the under insured, all of the poor people who can not afford anything, but because one can not afford to take care of all of them, does that make them greedy? Or not caring? Or wanting them all to die? Those are some pretty harsh words my brothers and sisters.
If you want the media to explain the new health care law to you, go ahead and be misled. It is better to think for yourself. Think it through. Who stands to benefit? People without insurance and people with "junk" insurance plans that had to be scrapped after the new law passed. Who stands to lose? The upper middle-class and above who want super good insurance plans. They will pay more in premiums without subsidies and without being subsidized by the suckers who bought from slick-talking insurance salesmen. The insurance companies will have to adjust to make their policies more fair and correspondingly charge a higher rate. There is a line out there, based on type of coverage, where those with less income will get a helping hand with a better plan subsidized by people with greater incomes.
You want to call this socialism and bellyache about it? Think of how greedy you are. Not only do you not care about your brother and sister but you also you wish them dead asap from disease, Consciously or unconsciously. Wake up! (I am not addressing Trailbird only here).
The new law may not be perfect and the roll-out was a far site from unblemished but these are steps on the road to catch up with the other industrialized countries where there is universal health care.
If only we could reign in the drug companies along with the insurance companies and medical professionals and those among them who make the whole industry a "for profit" business we would be a truly progressive country. We would half the current jail population and and ten times the current number of beds for psych. patients would become available. We would be awash in cash to treat the poor. Like in Canada, there could be low-cost trauma centers on every other block in the big cities,
It is as obvious as the nose on your face. Why would you ever look at a plagiarizing republican (Rand Paul) for an answer to any question regarding the health and welfare of the masses? For that matter, the democrats either. Better to draw a line from Finland to Spain and examine how people are cared for in these places.
I am so sick of how people are led blindly down the path by a non-reporting press. At least one deadhead actually read the law on this site. And it wasn't me!
I think our country needs a law that says than Congress and the Senate may not pass a law unless it has at least one vote from the other major party. Our President went all in on pushing a flawed health-care bill, that even he doesn't understand, down our throats without one vote from the other side and has spent the ensuing years wondering why the Republicans won't work with him on anything. It has not been good for our country. Work together ! peace to all
The sequester, to the Republican's collective glee, was supposed to hit all government agencies equally with a 2.5% cut. But then along came reality and complaints from constituents to Republicans saying they wanted safe airline travel and tours of the White House and countless other "stuff".
After hearings on the Hill in which the top General-Domos have complained about the draconian nature of these cuts and how they will effect a certain percentage of their units readiness to fight at a moment's notice, their Patron Saints McCain and Graham are riding to the rescue.
What is it with these two? They are "hawks" and fronting hacks for the Mil/Ind/Complx. In the end, if their is a reckoning before some higher power, their should be a representative of the poor who reads Eisenhower's quote:
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron."
Based on this, John McCain and Lindsey Graham are the ringleaders of a gang of thieves who steal on a staggering scale from the most needy and least able to defend themselves. There are other Republicans and Democrats who are part of the Posse, but these two are the head honchos.
How do they live with themselves? It is truly Dread, Mon. Dread, dread, dreadful!