Just came in off the press wires. Putin is paraphrased as saying that Russia has never extradited anybody and that Snowden is welcome to live out his glory years with Putin himself, the old KGB Colonel wanting to poke his finger in the eye of Uncle Sam.
Uhh, Ed? I'd rather take my chances with a layover in Havanna making small talk with Raoul over pretty latinas, cigars and cognac -- on to your next stop in Caracas. Check the Lima itinerary there in Venezuela with Nick Maduro.
The Galapagos Islands might start looking awfully tempting at that point. No more computers. Just rice & beans and okra and plaintains. Just saying -- Uncle Vladimir has been known to have a mean streak when he starts on the rails and Stoli shots. He might take a punch at you with Bob's superbowl ring.
Just keeping it real, Ed.
about Jedgar? Jedgar Hoover?
My error. Thank you for the correction Mary E. I was off on a gallop there...
I think you mean J. Edgar Hoover.
Herbert, while president of the United States and much vilified in the Depression, was a pretty blameless soul, and not in power during J. Edgar's heyday.
As Newmann said on Seinfeld: "He who controls the mail controls the world -- Information!"
Herbert Hoover was a cross-dressing gay freak (Not that there is anything wrong with that, if thats what you're into ) that controlled a vast government apparatus, the FBI, that collected secret files on everybody. Consequently, everybody was afraid of the guy and even though they knew about his vices that in the 60s would have resulted in a jail sentence, they were afraid of his files and said nothing.
Similarly, people in the Congress and especially people in the Press (who just had the FISA court make a ruling for the NSA to bug their phones) are scared to death of the NSA outing them because of the vast storage of information in the mega-zeta-byte facility at the Utah Data Center. They will shut up and keep their jobs and vices and obediently spout the party line, inglorious bastards!
What happened with the press and the Boston Bombings was disgraceful. The country went into a mass interlude of denial in which the third explosion was covered up as well as the deaths of first responders. This happened when the Feds stepped in and called it a terrorist incident. Up to that point there was all kinds of coverage from the first press briefing to footage of the 3rd explosion at the JFK Library all over the the three local news channels. Reporters who tried to ask questions were stared down and ignored by grim-faced FBI spokespersons. The reporter was dragged from the room Nazi goon style, yelling that he had the right to ask questions. Well, to that point, he used to. Even the national news (CBS) had to continually deny the third explosion because everybody in a three-state area all saw the third explosion on local channels 4, 5 and 7 and the repeated views of the blackened facade of the JFK Library.
After Snowden did his thing with the press conference in Hong Kong there was an immediate move to spin it. Morning Joe Scarborough and sidekick Mica B. said that only 14 people agreed with Snowden and everybody else thought he was a traitor. Then the polls came out and showed that Americans by a 5 point margin do not want the fucking NSA spying on every aspect of their life, though they do want the NSA spying on every aspect of a terrorist's life (read dark, swarthy complexioned Arab/Muslim people.)
Then Feinstein, liberal Senator from California sitting on the select committee of the Senate Intelligence Committee went on TV requesting Snowden's head which started a cascade of government officials all wanting Snowden for theft of government documents. Admittedly, that he is guilty of and he will pay a price. How big a price? He is himself writing the pre-sentencing report by releasing all this highly embarrassing information of the US spying on it's allies, never mind the Chinese and Russians. And then Obama and other officials are just outraged that extradition laws are not being followed. The distinction in the press seems to be that if he was a whistle-blower and credible he would be doing this from an arrest/awaiting trial pose rather than the "Traitor who kept the memory sticks for leverage."
Forget about the press. There are a few mavericks out there but they are being muzzled if they have an audience of any size at all. Acid-addled freaks like us aren't intelligent enough or have enough audience to be concerned about...
Make no mistake, with the recent Supreme Court rulings, since Dubya's appointments, this country is moving in a big way toward fascism. This is not an exaggerated overstatement.
Can we also address the fact that the media is clearly in cahoots with whatever is the gov't's public agenda? The day the Ed Snowden story broke, there seemed to be some hesitancy to immediately brand him a traitor, but now it seems like every news station from New York to south Texas all want his head on a pike. And there aren't too many people in America who realize that the "news" is more about shaping what They want you to think and less about keeping the people informed.
I guess this is what happens when corporations are allowed to run a country....
Obama has appointed Senator Schumer (presumably in his capacity of being on the Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Home Security) as point man against Ed Snowden. What a spectacle he was today as he stood up, a powerful United States Senator of 15 years, and bullied the small, insignificant country of Ecuador. He said that their package of economic aid was up for review this year and that the US would significantly make them hurt if they end up sheltering Snowden.
This is unbelievable. The US taxpayer is going to underfund aid to 15 million people who have the cojones to stand up to the US? What a sick joke! Do you feel good Charles? Do you really think Ed Snowden is a traitor to his country for succumbing to his own conscious and saying "I can't do this anymore and furthermore people ought to be aware of what is actually going on." No, he is not a traitor.
The latest news is that the NSA has been bugging the offices of our allies in Bonn and Brussells. It is now apparent that Snowden has a lot of information and that he is going to painfully leak it out till it is gone. He knows full well that he could be rendered to a third country like Poland and tortured.
Actually, with intelligence agencies within the US at war with one another nobody is clear on anything. Who is Ed Snowden a pawn for? The CIA? Naval Intelligence? Is he really secreted in a flat down a quiet side-street near the Naval War College on Aquidneck Island, commuting to Raytheon, toiling away in nurdery paying his penance for the sins he has committed before God, flag and uh, whatever the third one is?
C'mon President Obama. You said you'd been looking for an excuse to bring this up for a "conversation" with the American people. You can also now get that whopper off your chest about drones not plying the the friendly sky's of Hometown USA for the FBI. I suggest that now is a teachable moment for Schumer, Feinstein, Pelosi, Boehner, Cantor, Reid and McCarthy (whoops,I meant McCain) and the rest of the 535 Electoral College Members. A really good teachable moment, just like having a Sam Adams with that Cambridge cop!
Thought about the history of SF that led up to this weekend. It is quite the story of a group of people struggling to overcome bigotry and hatred to obtain their rights, a story that is not finished yet.
SF always seems to outdo themselves on this weekend. Just so over-the-top!
It was Pride weekend anyhow. And then the Supremes did their thing. parades! weddings! dancing in the streets! This in addition to everything else that's going on.
Take transit while you can. BART's threatening to go on strike Monday.
scoffing at that penny on the ground? If it's a 1943 copper wheat penny or a 1944 steel wheat penny, you would've just passed up $100,000! (courtesy of cointrackers.com)
Adjusting for inflation, just "my two cents" in 1926 - the earliest noted US use of the phrase from the Olean Evening Times in an article from Allene Sumner titled "My two cents worth" - had the same buying power as $0.26 now.
just my $0.26....currently, that kind of buying power gets you 1.2 cups of gasoline or 5 rolling papers.....your choice :))))