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Critical thinking and Oregon...

a long time ago I decided it would be a very good idea to educate myself about state and federal laws regarding various fun activities . I read a lot. A lot. The one common theme that was repeated over and over is that a jury - any jury - anywhere in this country - has more power than any judge. A judge usually instructs the jury at the start of a trial to obey his/her directions to the letter. What most sheeple citizens don't realize is that they have full power and authority as jurors to say to the judge, "fuck you, we'll think the way we want and vote the way we want". One needs to look no further than the original OJ trial. Critical thinking for the average citizen in this country has gone straight into the shitter. Obey, obey, obey. Zimmerman went looking for a fight, armed with a loaded pistol, period. All he had to do was call the police if he was that worried. Sweet dreams, George. Your memory will be your jury for the remainder of your life.

Anyway, that brings me to the state of Oregon where critical thinking is taking the lead.
The legislature of Oregon is actually working together to pass a bill to be the first state in the nation where, by 2015, as a trial, all colleges in the state will suspend the cost of tuition for the entire time a student is enrolled in college. Students are charged room and board and books. It does not matter for how long or what the major is. When, and only when, the student finds a job will the cost of tuition be reimbursed as a 3 - 4% deduction from their paycheck for up to 20 yrs. or until the loan is paid. I believe that, currently, repayment of the loan begins 6 months after students graduate, regardless of employment. The entire point of this legislation is to get students into college who might not otherwise be able to afford it and to have a significantly larger percentage of the public who are college educated. (This shit sounds highly liberal and who's gonna supply bodies for the military?!!!!) Apparently this is modeled after Australia's higher education policies. And we're the leader of the free world? (in bullets and money and milk and honey).

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What We Know About Justice

Parkas4Kids, I read in another thread that Anna rRxia is traveling, so I think that's why we haven't seen much action in this discussion lately. As for mice elf, I've been teaching a couple of short term summer classes and only get a chance to stop in here to read a few posts when I'm not busy grading papers. I will note here your mention of the "Martin/Zimmerman Trial", which I think accurately represents what went down in The People of the State of Florida versus George Zimmerman. In my observation, it was not just George Zimmerman who was put on trial here; the jury seems to have rendered their judgment on the matter of Trayvon Martin as well.

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No Comments on the Martin/Zimmerman Trial?

I'm surprised no one has commented yet on the outcome of the latest Floridian travesty of justice. At least no one listened to Jamie Foxx's advice....

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The Morales incident

has really blown up, at least if one believes the international rather than US-controlled TV news. Every head of state in South America, regardless of politics, is seriously po'd, pointing out that this never would have happened to, say, Obama's plane or Putin's or Merkel's, and that this is a grave insult to South America as a whole. They're throwing the word "colonialism" around a lot.

Morales himself, interviewed on TV, seems quite bright. This could get interesting.

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Eva Peron, Eva Morales? Dunno hispanic names....

I'm going to chill on this story. Anybody can follow on the Beeb if they want. It is just so out there... Obama is losing it, now on Morsi's removal from office in Egypt.

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I think that would be

Evo Morales, who is a guy. No?

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Human rights are dead for Snowden & all others!

Condemned to play the character in that movie who lives the rest of his life, identity- less, in the transit lounge of an airport.

Why?

Because Putin, while allowing Snowden the room to claim asylum in Russia, has warned him that he can't release any damaging documents regarding the US. Crooks of a (the US & Russia) feather bed down together...

The US, meanwhile, is tightening the screws on Snowden. As he is identity-less, and unable to move on from Moscow's airport, his list of 20 countries from which he will ask to be given asylum have all stipulated that he must be on their soil for them to entertain his request. Quite a Catch 22. But what about all the copies Snowden has given out? Not important, the Texas Rangers always get their man.

What this has resulted in is a US NSA op. to make sure that he does not leave that airport, after they came to some kind of understanding with Putin about what he could and could not do on Russian soil. What Putin got for this is not clear. Perhaps immunity for stealing Bob Kraft's Patriots Superbowl ring? (Bob, this a truly patriotic thing you are doing for your country, giving up that ring!).

The NSA op. has already produced blowback. Eva Morales, President of Bolivia, en route to Le Paz from Moscow, had his private plane diverted to an Austrian airport and searched for the fugitive. Mr. Morales went bananas. A sovereign head of state subject to an NSA shakedown? I wonder which judge from the FISA Court signed that order??

Obama said that he wouldn't scramble two jets to go after a 29 year-old hacker. In reality he has given wide-sweeping powers to the NSA to spend billions to apprehend this whistle-blower and any person's human right anywhere in the world can be trampled without consequence.

Has Obama officially taken on the mantle of Darth Vader, speaking with that heavy, nasal voice similar Dick Cheney's?

The US has now become the #1 human rights violator in the entire world. All heads of state are our vassals and must bow before us. All this for a 29 year-old whistle-blower who started the conversation Obama wanted to have in the first place...

OMG!!!

Has Obama completely lost it? Come on dude, take your "teachable moment" medicine like a man. You sure could dish it out when it was your friend who was having his rights trampled...

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Bumpersticker seen on a car

In my neighborhood: Has anyone seen my Constitutional rights?

My, my. Hey hey. Live Free Or Die is here to stay,

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Pixies?

A supernatural being in folklore and children's stories, typically portrayed as small and human-like in form, with pointed ears, part of the Mr. Spock strain I predume,

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Pixies 2.0

In less than a week, Kim Deal has left the Pixies and been replaced by Kim Shattuck, and the band's released a new song--"Bagboy"--and are going on a tour of Europe beginning in late September. 2013 is apparently not the death of the Pixies but instead their rebirth. The buzz on the internet is that the band has been and is continuing to work on new material. Whether this is a handful of new songs or the long-awaited new album remains to be seen, but this band is producing again for the first time since 1991 (2004's "Bam Thwok" doesn't count).

Is anyone else here a Pixies fan? Y'know, besides me...?

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