Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana 5/14/74 CD - SOLD OUT
We're kicking off Dave's Picks 2014 with a visit to the Wall Of Sound era. Dave's Picks Volume 9 features the complete show from May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. Highlights run deep including the second performance of “Scarlet Begonias,” a 22+ minute “Playing In The Band” that leans heavily on the band's jazz chops, and a second set jam of “Weather Report Suite>Dark Star” that contains some of the deepest jamming of 1974, and that's saying a heck of a lot! It also features one of only a handful of versions of “Dark Star” played in 1974, a song heading toward a long hiatus, and this one digs deep into some of the wildest spaces you'll ever hear. Rockers, ballads, and jams, 5/14/74 covers all the bases, with plenty of nuances to revel in, each and every listen.
3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: February 1, 2014
Harry Adams Field House, University of Montana, Missoula, MT (5/14/74)
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I do remember Dave mentioning in an interview that only the august 78 red rocks shows are in the vault. The July 1978 tapes are for sure missing. Lots of good suggestions in this thread for future releases. Next box possibilities are exciting!
It's understandable the criticism that there's enough 1977 for awhile. Last year's 5 show release finds even ferverent 77 fanatics in a tough place to remind there's still plenty of 77 golden nuggets remaining. Yet here I am, and perhaps the Winterland March run is the next 77 music that should be released, whenever this is. The Half-Step and Sugaree from 3/18 are enough to reward this set Landmark status- and finds Garcia playing some of the most inventive phrasings of the whole year. 3/19's first set belongs in the conversation of top first set of the year. These shows are filled with some of 77's best moments, and hopefully will see the same treatment as the June run.
p.s. This reminds of my favorite 1977 story- A fair young lad, seemingly confused, asked his Dad -what's too much 77? The Dad, with a grin said don't worry- there's no such thing.
06/22/73 PNE Vancouver gets my vote too. Some others I'd really love to see released:
06/10/73 RFK Stadium, Wash DC
12/18/73 Curtis Hixon, Tampa FL
10/18/72 Fox Theatre, St Louis, MO
was definitely not just "another" Dark Star -- though I don't mean to attribute that implication to you, mb!! That show needs a release, period.
box with the plastic still on. I won the Warlocks box in last years 30 Days of Dead contest.
I already had purchased though. Wish i could get my hand on DP30. I lost it. 10-8-89 was featured on SiriusXm today. I may gift the box to a friend as wedding present. I caught the tail end of that show, gimme some lovin > morning dew. A Summer or another Fall 89 box or release would be welcome. Nightfall of Diamonds is great. Would like to hear another show from that era. I have Charlotte show with California Earthquake as the opener. I think the next stop was Miami on that tour. Another Dark Star. 2-19-73 eyes > china doll was just on SiriusXm very nice. Playin in the Band 5-25-72 is worth checking out too
at least that's my guess!!! CMON, LET US KNOW WHAT #10 is, we deserve to know by now?!?! The people on this board are the ones in particular(amoung others), who have spent lots of $$$ at dead.net.....and for that matter the "spring" box set, as mentioned below, needs to be from the 1980s already!!! the last four box set/ special releases (record day, etc) have been from 1970, 1971, 1972, 1977 - time for a LONG OVERDUE 1980s box set.
I for one think DP #10 w/bonus disc will NOT be from the batch of found tapes from 70-71...TPTB have been there/done that with the May release last year. Mix it up & change decades just like the dead did so often
i have an unmolested warlocks '89 box i've never even listened to...i opened the box, checked it out, then put it away. it was a gift, just not my cup of tea.
anyway, i'll trade it straight up for any two of these:
RT vol1 No 2 bonus disc
RT vol1 No 4 bonus disc
RT bol2 No 2 bonus disc
Closing of Winterland bonus disc
Cow Palace bonus disc
Fillmore West 69 bonus disc
What tapes were returned? I know certain reels that were missing from a selection of shows were recovered, but does anybody know what shows from that era had missing reels? Was it late 69 to early 70? pretty sure 71' tapes were from a different return. not at all associated. Dave's 6 is very nice and has a certain variety of songs. Some featured on GDhour a long time ago. Last few weeks the GDhour link has had Spring 69 and 70'.If Dave's 10 is from 69' I'm hoping it will be some of the other songs from that era like Easy Wind , doin that rag, next time you see me, King Bee , School Girl, that's it for the other one, friend of mine , alligator and caution. December 10-12 , 1969 would be a nice box if possible. Or avalon and ark from April 69' . 80s box would be welcome.. Maybe 89? SiriusXm had 7-15-89 on last night. Nice first set. 9-15-73 Mississippi half step was excellent and just about the whole entire run from 73' is incredible. Fox Theater box October 72? Lots of good stuff from that run. Bird Songs Dark Star > morning Dew > playin. china rider, Brokedown palace, Casey jones , final comes a time until 1976. Plus many others. 10-24-72 is on tapers section this week I think. Wow that's great
Finally gave new DaP-9 a listen in full last night around camp fire, under stars here in southwest New Mexico, upper Gila River. Strange lights in the southern sky during Dark Star (of course, right?). My feeling about Missoula show was that of the Dead echoing the vastness of the Northern Rockies. When the glaciers of Glacier National Park were twice their current size. When a handful of the last buffalo hunters still lived. (Jim White Calf). When all the old guard original Montana hippies were still young. I've had the old sound board CD of 5/14/74 but had not listened to the whole show in years. Real deep concert. Great new mix. Love the cover and liner notes, clippings. Most important the music transported me.
I hope Dave and TPTB take a risk of sorts on the next box. Throw a curve ball. Don't really care if it is 60's, 70's, 80's or 90's. Just want a surprise. Also hope it isn't a huge box and runs under $200. Kinda like May '77. Peace.
In case anyone did not notice, Spring '77 box is almost gone; less than 100 copies left.
Zuckfun-I hope your premonition is correct. I would like to see this show released. I saw the show and it was a great one from start to finish. I only saw that show from the run at the Garden. Later, I was eagerly awaiting the fall '95 Garden shows, that, alas, were never to be.
Had a strange premonition tonight that Dave's Picks 11 will be from 10/1/94. Don't get these feelings often, and equally as often I'm wrong, so anyways. The So Many Roads from this show was on last year's 30 Days. The Tom Thumb's from 3/16/94 is my favorite version. Whenever I read a review of this show, Tom Thumb's is never mentioned. It's one of the crowning jewels of this show- Phil sings it perfectly.
Reminds me of that 1969 Miles Davis bootleg that came out last year, the one with Chick Corea's cool experimentation with the electric piano. Keith's organ work, small snippets really, in Loser and BTW are a nice addition to the oeuvre. The Tennessee jam isn't Vol. 3 DA caliber but it's long and sinuous like the state itself. Big River is surprisingly rockin. I thought that song peaked in '73. The Playin' is extremely groovy as initially reported. If you like spacey, this the one for you. It's not sleepy though but it's not 8/27/72 either (tough to have to compare any Playin' to 8/27/72 since nothing does. The real surprise is Row Jimmy. Near studio-quality in every way. They don't wander far from the blueprint but for a live performance I don't know of a more spot-on one of the official releases. WRS has more of that cool electric piano. The Dark Star is enjoyable, more so than Dicks Picks 7? Hmm, I'll have to meditate on that one for a while. Nice to hear to boys turn up the knobs and blister away NFA>GDTRFB in the end. Super solid show. Rather succinct for '74 actually and not as sterile as Winterland in October. A keepa as they say in Maine.
.....the shows I saw in the summer of '95. The writing was on the wall then, but we couldn't read.......too sad.
.......I got on the bus in '85, and of the many shows I saw, the last night in Hartford (4/5/88) was maybe the "worst", which is relative, of course, because there were days nights when the crowd wasn't "on" either. That night was one of them. We 'Heads tore up the capitol lawn the night before and after that run supposedly the band were banned from the city, but I think they went back once with Vince. I even had a problem with the previous three nights at the Byrne (3/30, 3/31, and 4/1). It was a choppy tour, for sure. But I disagree with Mikeblood; SPAC 88 was good, and the Shakedown was happenin before the show and well into the morning. And the skinny dipping in the natural springs wasn't too bad either !!
Chris G - I'm pretty sure I've read that 7/8/78 is not in the Vault (hopefully I'm incorrect).
rrot - Yes, I love DP6 as well. Never understood the harsh reception, though I think some of it is the cassette-master sound quality. If that show was a Betty reel, it would get much love. It's no wonder Dave is worried about reaction to an 80's cassette master release. The whole second set is just endlessly inventive.
It's funny, if Dick/Dave pick a show that is less well known (DP6, 10/14/83) they get ripped for not picking a better example of the era. If they pick a well known show, they get ripped for not picking something more off the beaten track. Pretty funny alright.
I still like DP13 a bit better though - sound quality may be a factor, but that Bobby Sands He's Gone just pushed it over for me.
And Danc - don't "yell" at me, I like RT 4.4 (1982) quite a bit :) The eighties release I never warmed to (yet) is DP 21 (Richmond 85). Maybe I need to break that one out again...
Immediately, I expect to see more from the '69-'70 trove of returned reels -- I believe Dave strongly hinted at that in a previous seaside chat, didn't he? This will upset some people since the bonus disc for the year would also be from the same period, if past patterns hold, making a near-repeat with last year. I'd prefer to think rhyme rather than repeat, and I will be ecstatic.
For the future, I actually think something more from the early '80s is very, very likely:
If you listen to Mr. Lemieux's daily one hour program on Sirius XM, Today In GD History, you will know that he has a good ear for '80's performances, and that he has been digging in those eras quite a bit. Because I have generally paid little attention to the post-'1978 band(s), I will doubtless be pleasantly surprised by what gets dug up.
I remember being in heaven when I heard Dick's Pick #6. I also sadly recall that the Pick was very poorly received. I think many pre-Brent partisans (a group in which I include myself) didn't think much of it -- but also many Heads more in tune with the era thought it was far from the best way to begin representing the Brent period. For myself, I thought and still think it was just an awesome show literally from start to finish. The first set wows me every time with its fiery energy.
I think we will get something similarly great from this era soon, i.e. before we get into the teens of Dave's picks. I only hope that it won't be as badly received by the '80's cognoscenti as Dick's 6 was.
yep it'll be april before we hear
in the meantime, my wish list for the rest of 2014
06/22/73 PNE Vancouver
07/08/78 Red Rocks
01/30- 02/01/70 Warehouse NO
04/22/79 Spartan St San Jose
For those of us waiting for the announcement of Dave's Pick's 10, we may have to wait awhile. Last year, DaP 6 was announced early due to the newness of the found tapes and probably to sell some subscriptions. This year, they sold out of subscriptions without having to announce DaP 10 and the bonus disc. As a result, I think that the DaP 10 and bonus disk announcement will more closely mirror the schedule of two years ago as we were awaiting announcement of DaP 2. That release was announced on April 11th, 2012 for shipping on May 1st. While I don't know if we'll have to wait that long, I bet we are weeks away from any news on DaP 10. Here's a link to the thread from two years ago.
Here's hoping I'm wrong!
I got on the bus in 83 and saw and heard the long,slow decline. There were quite a few clunkers in my travels:
Portland ME 86- first night. Hamstrung Blues was not enough to make the save. That whole spring tour had short sets and a bunch of uninspired playing.
Hershey 85-many people rave about this and the set lists were strong, but Jerry was gassed in the second set. I did love the three Jerry tune end of the first set.
Foxboro 7/4/87. Jumping into UJB right out of Althea, oops, I guess we are in the second set!
Telluride- 8/16/87, but the setting and scene overwhelmingly made up for it
All three Hartford shows in 88
Anything after Halloween 91
Hard to choose from this lovely list a "winner". I was fortunate to have seen many great and inspiring shows as well.
The Dead were not very good for stretches in '82 (Road Trips 4.4 is a joke) and '84 (e.g. 4-23 gets talked about as worst ever), and put up some real stinkers in '78 and the first half of '79.
Hi, I was in attendance for all 4 SPAC shows and being Saratoga Springs is my hometown I have always fantasized about an official release from one of the shows . 6.27.85 was definitely a good one, 1983 & 1984 were also pretty solid . 1988, however ,I don't remember having much love for . Cheers!
Good news: after some strong work from Dr. Rhino and Mary E., my missing vol 9 that was shipped to the wrong address and returned is now on its way to me at my correct address. I can't wait to listen to all that's been discussed on this thread.
Now, howzabout that vol 10 announcement, and it seems about time for a Spring box announcement, no?
I was there, and I am here. It was one of eight GD shows I was blessed to attend, and the comments all hit home. It was hot (damn hot); many who didn't have tix somehow made it in (me included, not proud of that); it started late (really, it was because the boys got caught up in a Bose demonstration?); and they opened with four songs from ITD (I do remember that as a bit of a bummer).
I dig the Dylan/Dead compilation, but I can totally understand why this show might show up on a "worst of" list. Weird, weird, weird, but that's what the GD were all about.
So for good or bad I got a full dose of what the GD were all about at this show. I'd say of the limited number of shows I saw I was lucky enough to witness a universally well-received gig, 6-27-85 SPAC. Now that's one that deserves to see the light of day...
It's possible that, if the Dead themselves were to respond, they might very well say: "Woodstock," where Bob Weir had to play through jarring electric shocks from his guitar and the glaring spotlights shined straight into their faces; a very long technical delay, etc.
just cleaning up an old download and stumbled on one of the BEST 'supplication's i have ever heard !! 06/27/76 auditorium theater chicago ... if you like finding new jems on archives check it out. the whole show is great also has a really hot 'let it grow' sandwich and more!
Have I missed the Vol. 10 (and bonus disc) announcement? Seems strange to be so "late" to announce relative to past years. Thanks.
Star Dark, that version of Dylan singing Forever Young in Japan sounds pretty great, so I did a You Tube search just in case. Didn't find it, but I did stumble on this. And I blame you :-)
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Didn't Dave say he feels he could do this for 30 years? All good things in all good time.
I only went to a handful of shows, and this was one of them. Summer of 87 was all about In The Dark; everybody had it and played it over and over again -- to the point that I was almost sick of hearing it. So when the Dead opened the July 4 show with the first four songs off the album, in order, it was not well received. I think a lot of the crowd felt the same as I did. Last July 4 however, I listened to an audience tape of the show and was instantly taken back to summer 87 in a good, nostalgic way that no other show could have done.
And while Dylan and Dead were not outstanding, there were some highlights: Jerry breaking out the pedal steel, and,for me anyway, personal favorites Chimes of Freedom and Queen Jane.
I crunched 3 Second Sets and their Encores plus some other bits into a home-made 4 Disc Box a few years ago. All from LMA sourced mp3 downloads.
HelpSlipFIRE on 9/20! Dark Stars on 9/24 and 9/26!
As a fan of these shows, I love this idea.
But wait: let's think about sales, profits, all the things that drive this GDM machine. I don't think GDM is only in it for the money, but I think that they can't be "in it" at all if they can't make money.
I think at least 2 of the 6 shows could be made to fit on 2 discs instead of 3. That renders up a 16 disc Box!
Maybe a $175-$200 purchase, assuming the usual quality of packaging and little extras.
I would think twice before spending the money and I know I want 1/2 of those shows. How many people who don't believe 90s Dead is any good are gonna drop that kind of coin on a 90s Dead Box?
If it was a new kind of Box release (no fripperies like books and memorabilia, cheap packaging) that could be priced in the $100 range, i think it would sell OK. But as a $200 box o' fun and style, I don't see the market legs to support put out the product.
I don't think we will see this box.
But maybe 9/20/91 can make it into the Dave's series.
I think a great way to tackle the '80s and 90's would be a new series of releases that emulate Dick's Picks 29. Each release could slipcase together 2 shows from a run, maybe with bonus cuts from another show of the run.
4/17 & 18/82, 7/13 & 15/84, 6/14 & 16/85 (filler from 6/15!), 3/28 & 29/90, 10/31 & 11/1/90, 12/12 & 14/90, 9/24 & 26/91, etc, etc.
Starting such a series would also allow Dave to focus on the 60s/70s, as seems to be his true desire...
And it would give us another reasonably priced series to buy each year! Maybe a 3 volume/year release schedule that ships on months the DaPs don't?
I've been gunning for a Boston Garden '91 box for some time. Here's hoping for fruition. I would not be at all disappointed if you are correct regarding DaP 10, either.
I'm with you. I can even find an isolated tune or two from the post-Brent era that doesn't make my skin crawl! :O)
Still, as bad as the shows supposedly were, I'd kill for the chance to have seen Dylan & the Dead on the same bill. That all happened just after I discovered the Dead through the magic of Reckoning.
An aside re Dylan: I've seen both the terrible and the brilliant. Somewhere on youtube there was footage (long since removed, no doubt) of him performing "Forever Young" in Japan. This was in the 2000's... and he was singing *beautifully.* It was shocking, even for a hardened fan like me, to hear how great and emotive a vocalist he could/can be. The kind of a performance that sends little earthquakes up your spine. He had this huge dopey grin on his face the whole time, as though letting the Japanese in on a well-kept secret. And he was! Never heard anything like it before or since.
As we all know, the beauty of the Dead is that almost every show has something that appeals to at least a few listeners. On the rare occasion, we are lucky enough to come across, or even attend, a show that grabs everyone.
My problem with 7/4 is that they played In the Dark from the onset. It seemed more of a promo than a Dead show. And they did not play it well. The overall vibe was bad and the songs were weak.
Roughly 25 of us attended, Unfortunately, we convinced many first timers to go. None ever went again. A shame.
The show aside, probably the most fun we ever had in the parking lot. Brought a keg of beer and a portable grill. Hung out after until the lot was empty.
Getting out of that place was hell. One guy in his car sat in front of us for two hours without moving a foot. We kept feeding him burgers and beer.
Another odd one from YouTube: Garcia playing "I'm Goin' Down" with Bob's neighbor, Sammy Hagar, at Sweetwater in April '89. Not sure what the heck he's pickin' on, but 'tis not his machine. NEAT happening!
You tube Los Lobos and J. Garcia Susie-Q to see Jer on a gold top Les Paul rig. I guess he sorta stumbled into the club that night. Definitely looks strange. Still tears it up though....
Angry Jack - Couldn't help smiling when I saw the 7/4/87 mention. I'm one of maybe 11 or 12 people on the planet who actually LOVE "Dylan and the Dead," and believe all or part of the "Slow Train" on that CD came from this performance. Man of Peace also rocks. I suspect the weather and parking situation may have something to do with the show's infamous reputation... the performance itself (if you're accustomed to Dylan's "delivery") really isn't that godawful. Not stupendous either, I'll admit.
July was evidently not a good month.
And pretty much everything after Brent.
For me was Highgate, 6/15/95. I'm hoping that this years box set will be Boston Garden Sept. 1991. In fact while I'm at it I'm going to speculate that DP 10 will be 1/31/70 & the bonus disc will be 2/11/70. HAPPY SUNDAY, Deadland!!!
8-24-85 is often cited. And it's interesting to think how well that show would've been received in the last coupla years. As for me, I never saw - in person - anything worse than 7/5/95. We left after the opening derailment of Crazy Fingers.
I haven't heard this show, but the "Rolling Stone - Grateful Dead - Ultimate Guide" that came out last year has an article from 1969 that really pans the performance at the People's Park Bail Ball (May 28,1969?). Ironically, the shows at the Big Rock Pow Wow (Road Trips v4n1) just a few days earlier are very highly regarded. Also, a few months later, their performance at Woodstock is generally considered not too good; this is most likely because equipment problems prevented them from ever really getting it together. But I've seen a little bit of the Woodstock set on You Tube and it didn't sound that bad.
Something to kill time while waiting for DaP10...
An odd but sincere query: I'm interested in identifying the five or so all-around worst Dead shows ever. Not decent shows with a couple of trainwrecky duds, but gigs where the band (and particularly Jerry) just couldn't pull it together at all. The catch: Given the uniformly poor quality of '94 and '95, I'm looking for shows from *other* periods. (Still, if you're compelled, break out one from those two years..!)
If you find the exercise trollish, just ignore... but at this stage in the band's history, I think it might be kinda fun. Let 'er rip!
and i just checked deadbase and it is included and i know that since i just downloaded that show waiting for da.p.9 to show up !! thanks for the correction,, you get a gold star ... peace.
They played it at the Jai Alai Fronton in Miami on 6/23/74, although maybe it's not considered a proper version because they neglected to sing the verses.
I don't expect Dave to announce his 10th pick until it goes on sale; maybe in April? I think he was uber excited about the returned tapes last year and that's why the announcement was made so early. Love everything so far, so 60s, 70s or 80s I'm sure it will be good.
Happy Valentines to all the beautiful Women over at Dead.net! We appreciate everything you and all the fellas do for us!
Loving these releases and we are looking forward to another wonderful year! Shout out to the Man Dave L. for your keen ears, thank you brother.
so everyone has said their piece on DP#9...you either like it or don't. It sounds like the other 9-10 releases from 1974 that have been come out in one series or another.
So when the #!%$ are we going to get DP#10 news, and bonus disc info!?!? Last year they put out product info for the May 2013 w/bonus disc release in January....C'MON!!! bring it, tell us what 1980s show & bonus disc it is already!!!
Where is that poster that gave clues a few times- BOLO or something, give us a big clue
Cue up RTv2n2 and DicksVol-04 and enjoy !
Finally had a chance to listen to DP, v. 9 today. It's a Grate gem! Thanks, Dave! Peace.