Dave's Picks Volume 10: Thelma, Los Angeles, CA 12/12/69 - SOLD OUT
The last of a three-night run at a mysterious little club called "Thelma" found the Grateful Dead restoring glory to the Sunset Strip for what was once just a fleeting moment, now preserved for eternity with this here Dave's Picks Volume 10. Hot off the release of the highly-acclaimed Live/Dead and setting the stage for Workingman's Dead, 12/12/69 stands to represent the crux of the band's musical past, present, and future. Witness the first signs of country, folk, and Americana infiltrating an otherwise wildly experimental and anarchic period, evidenced by Pigpen-driven classics like "I'm A King Bee," "Hard To Handle," "Good Lovin'" and a whopping 30 minute+ version of "Turn On Your Lovelight," as well as over a half dozen then-new compositions which show the Garcia/Hunter songwriting duo elevating the Dead to higher ground. Thelma turns the heat up indeed!
Mastered in HDCD from the original soundboard recordings produced by Owsley Stanley, featuring the once lost, now found first reel, this is one full show you won't want to miss. Pre-order it here and now!
3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: May 1, 2014
Thelma, Los Angeles, CA 12/12/69
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1966: July 29&30 Pacific National Exhibition Garden Auditorium, Vancouver, BC ("Our fame has preceded us.")
1967: November 10&11 Shrine Auditorium
1968: October 20 Greek Theater, UCB
1969: May 7 Polo Field, Golden Gate Park
Can't wait for whatever it is. I've never been disappointed. Who knows what undiscovered gems lie in the vault?
"Blondie! Blondie! You would not leave your good friend Tuco in the desert with no water! Blondie! Blondie!" - The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
And Dave won't leave us in the desert either. Just wait!
Spring '90 = Tremendous
Summer '90 = Spotty
Fall '90 = Dead cat bounce (Richfield was stupendous)
1991 = Keyboardfest. Jerry learns to hide.
1992 = Exhausted Jerry.
1993 = Flashes of the old magic, but another dead cat.
1994 = Kinda crap. Fat Man's issues are obvious to all with ears.
1995 = Made the sane cry.
The band died with Brent. After that it was just a field day for frat boy drug dealers.
...with some commentaries, if you will :~]
1983~9.4.83 (one of the few awesome 83s i've had for awhile)
1984~4.20.84 (SPACEBROTHER, you're thoughts on this show, please!)
1985~9.15.85 (your thoughts on this one too, actually...)
1986~2.14.86 (thanx David Gans for turning me on to this one...)
1987~11.13.87(this was a tough year to pick one... went obscure)
1988~7.2.88* (have longtime loved 4.1.88/PSYCHED when it was o.r.)
1991~9.26.91 (my birthday!!!
BUT 9.10.91 is really my favourite 91 show)
1992~6.14.92 (my 1st show, Shakedown opener &
Other One>Morning Dew w/ Steve Miller!)
~5.21.92 (honorable mention... glad you dug it, Zuckfun!)
1993~9.22.93 (one of the best shows outta 55 total shows in my
GD career... h.m: 9.26.93 b-day & was there!)
1994~10.1.94 (best 'complete show' of the 31 i&i saw in 1994)
1995~3.18.95 (no brainer...)
tried to stay away from Official Releases...
as some of you know, i've been (slightly) remastering Master Charlie Miller's version of 7.2.88* downloaded from ze archive... so that has now trumped 4.1.88... which is okay...
...okay, have @ it!
some are leaf...
some are branches...
i&i are de Roots ~ b.marley
July 9, 1995 19 years ago today
Thanks to those who posted the link to the new musicvault site. There's a bunch of Bob Weir interviews from the early 80's that are really good. Lots of great stuff there that are all new to me.
Desire Caught by the Tail. Whoa"..................
the other day someone made a Mike Meyers reference. which brings me to this. excuse me excuse me Im feelin a little vaclemnt "talk amungst yourselves " lemme give you a topic. Adrian Belew?
Would love the 1991 Box!!!
Great point - Why the silence from the Hornsby era?? That whole MSG 1991 run could be a box - so many great shows - and 1991 (similar to 1990) had 138 different songs (vs the 70's when they only had 80~ songs in the repertoire). So we'd get a ton of diverse songs, with a totally different sound/dynamic from the big 90 box, thanks to Hornsby.
Hornsby coming into the band was equally beneficial for the band as Keith coming into the band - gave them the shot in the arm they needed, and suddenly their sound changed for the better. Of course then you have to appease Hornsby's and Branford's legal/rights with their labels, yadda yadda - hopefully they'll get the rights squared away. Would be a great box. (Though I already have 6 of the 9 shows - coincidentally I went to of 6 of 9 shows.) Those shows were amazing.
I like your thinking stoltzfus. Bonus points in my book for including 65-67 in that list. Still waiting for the first 67 live show or box to come!
Someone mentioned getting Graham Nash to release Déjà Vu outtakes. That would be awesome. Hopefully it would have some cuts with Jerry on pedal steel.
DIGD: Desert Island Grateful Dead: one show per year
1965: The one disc of studio stuff
that's enough for now.
I think for 91 10-27-91 I think is the best show one of my all time favorite dead show
Me too! My 2nd Dead show. First being 1991-09-20
Dick's Picks # 17 was from the Boston Garden 1991-09-25 (I was there!!)
All for the Branford box, great shows, good sound quality that could easily be re-mastered. Some of the other shows with guest horns (forget dates and names at the moment) are worthy too.
10.1.94 is a very good show, especially for the era. I saw a lot of shows in the 90's so my tolerance is pretty high for these. I wouldn't mind seeing some 90's released as compilations, but I'm sure that would piss off the completionists, so probably not going to happen.
1989 however is on time. I've been making my way through the summer tour and there is a surprising amount of excellent jams and music. One way or the other (box or next DaP)we're bound to get some Brent stuff soon.
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man, would that be lovely.
I saw roughly 40 shows from 1985-1994. Just being selfish I would not mind a fall Oct 18, 1994 MSG show cause it was my last show. It was surprisingly very good despite how much I had been disappointed by subpar shows the previous 2 years. But as I listen back to many of the shows I had attended they just do not sound anywhere as good as the 70's releases. A lot of the midi & non tube amp distortion sounds dated & processed. Also, unfortunately nothing can replace being there. Even when they ultimately release the Branford 1990 Nassau show, I'm sure it won't again feel like the Coliseum gently lifted itself off the ground & flew freely through the sky during those endless improvisational (playing off each other) jams.
So yes I would welcome something from the last 15 years just to change things up a bit, but I won't be on suicide watch if it's another gem from the 70's.
I'd second that! I emailed Dave a while back, a Branford Box, now that would be something! Those shows were all wonderful. I've got a coworker, old time Deadhead, first show was Hollywood Bowl '71 (was it '71?), we agree. Every Dead show was incredible, just some were more incredible than others. I used to be a huge tape trader back in the day, I've heard just about everything that exists and I've never heard a show so bad that there wasn't some hidden bit of magic in there somewhere.
Fall 1991 would be fantastic release. The Boston Garden shows in particular.
show at the Boston Garden. YES. This was my last show and it is a release worthy late career great show. I have mentioned this show a couple of times in the last couple of years and sent a messege to Dave pointing it out. It was up at Nugs stash for streaming/download at one time-haven't checked recently. It opens with a roaring "Help on the Way" and never looks back. Wonderful "Stella Blue" "Scarlet-Fire". This was the best post 91 show I had the good fortune to experience. Jerry looked somewhat frail from my viewpoint from side stage right but he sounded and played amazingly. Release this one.
...ok..3-15-90 Easy To Love You too....
ok,playin' pinball here.....Frost '85 anybody?? 4/27?
I held in a laugh, but it came out "chhsssuuunnnkk!"
I appreciate your creativity and sense of humor.
Remember: "They're Dead, Jim."
I never looked at the lyrics to Wang Dang Doodle, though after checking out a bit of 5/21/92 following Amazing Ace's suggestion, I finally looked them up. I always thought Bob sang- "And kickin' it till I die, gonna have one heck of a time." The lyric is actually "Tell Peg and Carol Dine, gonna have a hell of a time." Kind of sounds like Bob changes things up a bit. Or maybe not. Well...all night long. Thanks for the tip Ace, yet another archive gem given the CM treatment.
...everybody wins. Sorry Brazil.
....glad to hear they are still hanging around. I appreciate your candor...peace
Woah, watched FIFA TM World Cup for a while and then flipped on Deadzilla playlist and it found DaP 6 Fox Theater and the Dark Star seriously melted my brain. I had my old Yamaha HTR-5840 flipped to the "Vienna Theater" setting, with extra reverb, digitally modeled gargoyles and all that but it sounds great! It should be time to start the hype for 11 soon...peace!
Jethro Tull - check out the live album "A Little Light Music"
Yes they are still around. Liz, Michael and the bass player are still around. Jim Donovan and Jenn Werner are no longer with them. The last time I saw them was a few years ago when they had come out with Stereo Rodeo. With the two new members, they played their hits, but the new material I was not familiar with was a departure from their poly-rhythmic songs from the original lineup. Maybe it was part of the integration of the new band members. My wife and I got a bunch of people to see them and we were a little disappointed.
Pretty ironic, since maybe 2 years before that I was consulting in NC and went to this really cool bar and saw them perform there and they were the same old Root from years before.
My buddy saw them two weeks ago on a booze cruise in Boston and said they were great. The band was super friendly as usual and he spent a while talking to them.
They're coming back to the Red Hook Brewery in the Fall, will probably check them out.
The best time I ever saw them was probably a year or two before they opened for TOO. They opened for Santana and during Santana's set they came out on stage with all their percussion instruments and joined the band. It was awesome...
Wow! About all you can say. I picked Germany at like 2 or 3 to nil. That game was total unexpected. Tomorrow? Messi will lead Argentina to a victory, I believe.
Germany will take the Cup.
Somehow I think Brasil will defeat the Dutch for third. I may be crazy, but that's what I'm running with.
....LOVE When I Woke by Root. Seen them twice and both times they were impressive. Are they still around? Need to bust out my Wikipedia app on them. As far as Tull, Benefit & Songs of the Wood are pretty fantastic. Need to dust those off. Thanks for the reminder guys. Even though my cd collection sits before by eyes on a daily basis, I sometimes need a nudge to find a gem.
can you hear me Santa Fe?
and yes, that Fuego was pretty killer. Nice light show to boot...
Thanks for the link to the fuego video - nice distraction from the tension here...
LEE's CAMPGROUND an oasis from reality even when it's flooded out... Had a very good night there after seeing The Other Ones at the SPAC on that first reunion (with Rusted Root opening).
Anyone I met there that night, thanks for taking care of me during my journey ;) The spinning glow balls were like a beacon in the night...
"And good luck to either Holland or Argentina. Germany will be nearly impossible to beat."
would not have seen that 7-1 result in a million.... don't care if Brazil was missing two of their very top players... really, really hard to believe at this level of football a 7-1 result!
Just a side note amidst the anxious waiting. Visited Glacier last week, flew out by way of Missoula, MT (ala Dave's Picks 9) and went to see a show at the Top Hat while we were there. Saw a nice sign that said every Monday at 5pm they play a live GD show in its entirety at the bar on the huge sound system. Can't help but think that a small thing like that is the result of a mind-blowing show like 5/14/74. Amazing what one show can do. Hopefully DaP 11 will be equally as awesome.
My comment was said in jest more than anything. :)
The archive is an invaluable treasure trove of never ending musical wonder indeed.
I seem to be in the minority in that everything that has ever been released makes me happy (except Grayfolded, my god I couldn't make it 1/4 through that thing no matter how hard I tried!) so whatever D11 is I know I'll have a smile on my face and end up bouncing with joy in anticipation.
Yes, there are huge stretches I'd love to see represented, 80s, 90s, but like you said it's not like that stuff isn't easily available and I do get most excited about seeing something out of left field that I never knew existed before.
Oh well, until that time I've got the extremely wonderfully perfectly amazingly awesome Jethro Tull A Passion Play super deluxe edition and it's as great as I hoped it would be, highly recommended to all!
CSNY 1974 is great too, Amazon was kind enough to send along MP3s of it and I got to entertain my coworkers with it all day today. Let's hope Nash gets his way and they do a box set of the Deja Vu sessions!
Speaking of box sets, it's getting silly now waiting for the next GD box to be announced! At least tell us how much we need to save!!!
Alright, Kiss/Def Leppard concert starts in an hour here at the Inglewood Forum, time to go! Variety, spice of life and all! And my 10 year old was dying to go! :)
Nice post Thats_otis. Three shows at SPAC are definitely on my live show purchasing radar. Cheers.
I just noticed that the 7/4 Fuego has an "official" video on phish.net - head over and check it out if you please!
Easy does it, my friend.
I have not called you out with a foul language attack. I have told you that incessant whining gets tired. Somehow you hear I hate you, the 80s, the 90s, Brent, etc. I have said how much I love 1980-1982 and still I am a 70s jerk to you.
And I am good with that. If you have no enemies it is a sign fortune has forgotten you.
But do you ever reread your posts? You rage against unkindness & spitefulness, yet you attack people with nasty language and throw hyperbole around. All because you have a parochial attitude to what should be released.
There is a huge difference between a witty one liner and a venom attack.
Cliques? I have no idea where you get this. I can only say the people you called out all seem like reasonable blokes and have exchanged opinions with everyone else in measured tones. The discourse gets rancorous when you get involved.
You must have reached the point in your life where you are the matador and have to get close to the horns.
But easy on the strident name calling. You can do better than that.
Disagree. Toss a witty rejoinder. Author a funny comment.
But cut the nasty stuff, my friend. It will drive away good people with varying opinions.
McCoy: I'm a doctor, Jim. Not a mind reader.
Captain: You've never failed in a diagnosis yet. What's driving these people out of their minds?
McCoy: Jim, you may not believe this, but in the early 21st century, a rock band that discovered the power of ergot extracts compiled an audio archive of thousands of performances. And here's the kicker: they released only four shows a year to the blood-thirsty savages known as "fans."
Captain: How cruel! Not even the Klingons would treat prisoners like that.
McCoy: These aren't prisoners, Jim. They're volunteers.
Captain: So what drove them from their senses? Some intergalactic mind rotting fungus?
McCoy: So you DID hear my point about the ergot mold...
Captain: Cut it out, Bones. What's the next release?
McCoy: I told you Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mind reader.
Captain: Scotty? Crank us into the time/space warp continuum. We'd better move into next week and find out what's out there before we too succumb.
Scotty: I'm giving her all I've got, Captain, and I must say, she's responding nicely.
Captain: Dammit, I'm heading to the engine room to find out what the hell is going on. Screw the "show."
Scotty: I AM, Captain. But while I was, we shot past next week into August. I'm afraid they've just announced a box set from 1985.
Captain: Good lord, man! This IS desperate. Bones, I need a sedative. A strong one.
lkj, welknmasdfoi,n ,.wera asdknerwod [transmission interrupted]
I have recently just returned from four glorious days at old Lee's Park in Saratoga Springs, (though it was pretty swampy, we managed to remain pretty dry.) Anyway, in regards to the Phish conversation, I totally understand that it not everyone's "cup of meat"(stick - GREAT SONG :), but for those of us who are still "on the sub" (that is great, whoever said that - I will be using it from now on!), Phish does offer an opportunity to commune with fellow heads and meet wonderful people surrounding an experience that many find to be transcendent and important. I met so many wonderful people in the campgrounds, on the lot, in the shows, - and I would like to say thank you to Phish for keeping the spirit of fun, community, and togetherness going strong years after Jerry passed - one guy I ran into this year, who I had met at SPAC two years ago (I love those random connections!), mentioned that for him it was like going to church. I know that I can certainly relate to that sentiment, and I am sure that many people on this thread can as well. It certainly did get a little dodgy there in the late 90's - early 2000s, but I came back in 2010 and I have noticed a significant change for the better. If you are able, check out "Fuego" that opened the second set on July 4th - killer tune! Next up, two shows at Jerryweather Post!
Dave will announce soon, and I am hoping that it is a show from the early 80s with a unique setlist and some solid, spaced-out jamming. I don't have a lot from this period, and it would be nice to fill in some holes. Another matrix mix would be great too!
As I am typing this, I am looking at a full-arch rainbow, much like the one from my Europe 72 avatar, stretching over the water behind our house -- good vibes all around!
Peace all, and Keep Sharing in the Goove!
Would love to see this released. This is my third favorite show behind oxford 88 day 1 and rfk 90...
I think you need to take a deep breath, go back, and read what I first wrote to you.
Nowhere did I attack you or try to berate you, I simply stated that '87 doesn't do it for me.
On the contrary, it is you who have been attacking me since I dared to state my opinion.
And how could I have been "ganging up" on you, when I was the first person to respond to your post? Stop acting like anyone who doesn't share your opnion is your sworn enemy or something. It's not that serious. Sheesh.
Calling people dicks or douchebags is probably not the best way to advance your cause,ya know? Just sayin' :0)
to either Holland or Argentina. Germany will be nearly impossible to beat.
Okay, the prerequisite pre-seaside chat bickering is reaching a crescendo. Mr. Lemieux, we are ready for your take.
How about a Mountain Girl '67, or 7-8-78 or another stealth Betty-Board, or a 9/18/87 Matrix with some Landover or Spectrum filler?
Just surprise us again, and most of us will be happy.
Wow... a few hours clamming and a wild German victory and the board is blowing up... We must be getting close to an announcement as the jousting has really ratcheted up with all the usual suspects.
Space Bro- I am actually sympathetic to your cause although I don't agree with many of your proclamations. This is the beauty of opinion in a free society. We all have a perspective on a shared experience, no matter when we got on the bus or how many shows we attended or tapes collected. My Victim or the Crime reference was regarding how you are viewed on the board as supporters and detractors line up to comment. That I am explaining this is part of your challenge. I don't consider myself part of any clique. I picked and chose Dick's and Road Trips based on my own likes. I am not a completionist, nor am I partial to any one era. I subscribe to Dave's with no remorse, happy for great quality recordings, lovingly restored in groovy packaging from any era. Please be careful throwing blankets. Your argument would be stronger if you didn't go nuclear with each response.
To answer your question Thursdays child, it's always like this when space brother posts. There are sometimes long stretches of peaceful, friendly discussion.
I type a few sentences and you get so worked up that you feel compelled to respond by composing a disjointed, meandering tome. Every time. I have to be honest, I kinda enjoy it.
And to be clear, most of the negative sentiment on this board is directed toward a small number of people. Someday you may actually pick up on that. If you can't spot the donkey . . .
One last thing. Mr. Jack Straw and I are going to swap names, just to confuse and piss you off even more.