Grateful Dead

Dave's Picks Volume 24: Berkeley, CA, 8/25/72 - SOLD OUT


We're wrapping up this year's Dave's Picks series with one from the Grateful Dead's beloved Bay Area. An often overlooked gem from '72 (who's to blame with that rich pool of excellence), 8/25/72 Berkeley Community Theatre finds the Dead laid back and in the comfort zone of home. While one might think this would make the night too relaxed, the band fall in line with their "West Coast best" paradigm. The output is fresh, reaching the outer depths on repertoire classics like "The Other One" and "Playing In The Band" and finding the intricately nuanced heart of emotive numbers like "He's Gone" and "Bird Song." Fans of Europe '72 and Veneta, Oregon will not be disappointed!

This complete show was recorded by Owsley "Bear" Stanley, has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman, and features photos by Michael Parrish, tour notes from the road, and original illustrations from Dave Van Patten.

Dave's Picks Volume 24 is limited to 16,500 individually numbered copies. Don't delay, these releases tend to sell out in a matter of hours!

Product Details

3 Disc set
Limited to 16,500 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: November 1, 2017

Vol. 24 Listening Party


"Loser"
"Bird Song"

Track List

Disc 1
1. Cold Rain And Snow [7:46]
2. Black-Throated Wind [6:19]
3. He's Gone [10:16]
4. Beat It On Down The Line[3:26]
5. Loser [8:29]
6. El Paso [4:56]
7. Black Peter [9:12]
8. Jack Straw [5:01]

Disc 2
1. Friend Of The Devil [4:10]
2. Promised Land [3:37]
3. Bird Song [11:25]
4. PLaying In The Band [16:48]
5. Bertha [6:40]
Disc 3
1. Truckin' [16:02]
2. The Other One [28:03]
3. Stella Blue [9:03]
4. One More Saturday Night [5:46]
5. Sugar Magnolia [7:57]

In The Basement: Dave's Picks Vol. 24

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CumberLand Blooz

4-18-70 Jerry has got an excellent twang going. DaP 16 show opener is no slouch either...

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Cumberland Blues 11/14/73

You'll never love another.

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RFK Box

if you like RFK box set and don't have it or have yet to listen to it, id say you would also probly like Nightfall of Diamonds-a fall '89 show at Meadowlands, NJ, Multi Track. great sound mix great playing. features a "Built To Last" in the first set, as well as a great Let It Grow w/ some MIDI magic. Brent has a good upfront solid sound on this. great for headphone listening. if it's not here in the store its probly at Amazon. 2 disc set not too expensive. unless its out of print then probly would be but you can probly get an ALAC copy at nugs.net.

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Guess that Show

I keyed in on the sugar reference as well and found 5 shows that opened w/ Sugaree & closed with SugarMag: 8/4/76, 5/6/78, 12/28/78, 5/9/79, and 6/21/80...all of which have an unsweetened encore. So, unable to distinguish between them, I choose 12/28 - the closest to Christmas, thinking the happy holiday wish in the second line might be a qualifying clue to help distinguish between eligible choices./K

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Bolo - oh yeah

Glad so many are learning to tell time. Now if I could just learn how to post. Dang modern technology!

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Plain awesome

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haha

Congrats Mytime!

My head was a bit too much in the clouds as I posted twice Hershey on the board mistakenly thinking I was sending Bolo a PM. A huge D'oh or as I learned yesterday a Gary derp.

Smile to All!

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5/6/78 has an encore...

According to Deadbase 5/6/78 has "One More Saturday Night" encore...sooo

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Hershey

I guessed Hershey too but knew it was way too obvious. Congratulations Mytime. Thanks Bolo.

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We have a winner!

Didn't get around to looking at guesses until just now. This is my busiest time of year - had a long elf training session last night. Elves and egg nog - bad combo!

The first (and ONLY) person to guess correctly is...drum roll please...oh, thanks, Billy. Hey, Mickey joining in on The Beast - sweet! Now he's moving over to The Beam. Here comes Olatunji playing a bandir...good to see you, Baba! This may take a while. Someone just wheeled Kesey's Thunder Machine onto the stage.

OK, enough with that. Congrats to Mytime, who posted the winning entry at 11:32 last night. The show is 5/6/78 - University of Vermont. First set opener - Sugaree; second set closer - Sugar Magnolia. The next clue would have included a rather obscure reference to the interesting date (5678), but obviously not needed now.

Mytime, send me your address. I'll pack up your goodies post-haste.

Thanks for playing, folks. By the way, pretty impressed to see numerous entries posted at precisely 6:00 PM.

And, no, this has nothing to do with DaP 26 as some have surmised.

Cheers!

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Hershey

Yes I was there, my book says Estimated -> Terrapin both got plus 1, but the Dew got a plus 2. Comes a time first set a plus 1. What I remember is a great Estimated and the great quad sound system they sported at that show. During Estimated the sound danced around between the 4 speaker towers. Oh yeah, and the rain, but we had cheap rain gear from inside the amusement part.

Also, more of video-dead mashups,,,, here Ralph and Ed dance to the dead :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdrCCr3-SGs

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Dicks 18, 24 and 25 are

Dicks 18, 24 and 25 are probly the ones that got played the most out of what I have. I should've gotten the final one always meant to but it then they started selling out. currently have Dicks 1 on the treadmill soundtrack. its good for what it is: incomplete show, tracks not in running order. but the material is still pretty good. and for non Donna fans she was absent from this show. so phil is more prominent on vocals than usual. I wonder if this one was sold at a decent price. cuz double cds were so expensive back in the day. "oh you want The Wall? well that's a double cd so you gotta pay 30 bucks" it was still pretty pricey I bought that in winter of 2001 and it still cost quite a bit of cash. I remember BMG music club tried to tell me that What a Long Strange Trip It's Been was a "box set" yeah I don't think so lol.

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Hershey

Hershey came to mind.. but way too easy for Bolo. Besides, their chocolate sucks.

85 Hershey was a very good show though.. I think Dennis was there, maybe Doc too. Perhaps there's a star next to a song or two in his notebook.

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hershey pa

6/25/85

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1985-06-28

Hershey, Pa.

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Re: Ummm

They were all me.. sorry.

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Re: Bolo

But....but....9 PM is after my bedtime!

I may actually have a guess to offer if I can stay awake til then....and....Star Wars.

Sixtus

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Ummm...

 Contest starts at exactly 6 PM Pacific time today. Entries received earlier than that don’t count.

I have a dozen or so PMs already, 3 1/2 hours early...they don't count!

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11/15/71 Road Trips - surprise jam

Walking the dog today and turned on the "You Win Again, NFA>GDTRFB>NFA" from 11/15/71 in Texas. I was enjoying the Not Fade Away thoroughly - reminiscent of the 10/31/71 DP2 show in parts - dances on the Chinacat theme for a while before heading off into a LONG jam that goes OUT THERE for about 10-15 minutes and is every bit as good as many of the Dark Stars/Other Ones of the era. I had forgotten how great this jam is.... I was totally mesmerized and imagined Dick sitting in a listening chair smiling broadly imagining this release as DP2.

The band crashes and burns on the way into GDTRFBad (not sure why - they'd done that transition for over a year), and it takes them a few minutes before they fully recover, but it matters not - the preceding is worth every jammy minute. I wish they explored that jam more often.... Late '71 rocks - just what the doctor ordered.

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Lesh and Weir?

I did not even try to get tickets for several reasons.

1.) Anytime they play in NYC, especially Manhattan, the "Secondary-Market," or The @#$%&!!! Scalpers pretty much instantly-magically have all the tickets for resale.

2.) When tickets go on sale during Christmas, Hanukkah, New Years Season, that is such $$$ pain in the a$$.

I may just line up at the box office the 'day-of.'

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Lesh and Weir?

I did not even try to get tickets for several reasons.

1.) Anytime they play in NYC, especially Manhattan, the "Secondary-Market," or The @#$%&!!! Scalpers pretty much instantly-magically have all the tickets for resale.

2.) When tickets go on sale during Christmas, Hanukkah, New Years Season, that is such $$$ pain in the a$$.

I may just line up at the box office the 'day-of.'

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Ho Ho Ho. Guess That Show!!

Some fun for those mired in pre-DaP announcement limbo.

 Entries must include date and venue of concert.

 Contest starts at exactly 6 PM Pacific time today. Entries received earlier than that don’t count.

 One guess per screen name per day via PM to me only, and your screen name must have been created prior to 12/14/2017. Duplicate entries will be ignored.

 Entries will be reviewed in the order they appear in my inbox.

 The first person to correctly solve the riddle will receive a selection of Dead-related goodies (legal in most states). Here’s a tease - one of the items will be a laminate from Jerry’s memorial in Golden Gate Park. Value: priceless!

OK, here goes:

One sweet show from front to end.

Cheers! And Happy Holidays/Hannukah/Kwanza/Festivus/Merry Christmas to all.

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Lesh/Weir

Bummer - got shut out of the lottery to try to get tickets for Radio City. Oh well, would have been a great time I'm sure! Anyone have any luck?? Curious to hear what tickets were going for (I didn't even make it that far)...

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Closing of Winterland bonus disc

That's another one I missed out on, along with the Beyong Description bonus disc. Those two and the FW '69 box have been too far out of my price range and budget to acquire. Hopefully they'll be re-released someday, or get lucky enough to find them at reasonable costs through secondary market sources. I found a Winterland '77 box on Ebay for a reasonable price (under $200), so anythings possible.

If I had them, I would definitely fit them in the listening program.

I'm sure there are some super hardcore Heads out there who have every single thing released by the Dead, including the solo projects, and even all of the Dead ('03, '04 & 09) Dead & Co, Other Ones, Furthur, Ratdog, Phil & Friends, Hunter, downloads and what not.

Hard enough to get caught up on just the wealth of Grateful Dead, let alone all of that other stuff.

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wilfred t disc, bolo guess

Wilfred, that is a great disc. I haven't listened to it in years but I recall it well. I'll have to pull it out this weekend.

Bolo - I guess 02/26/77.... the king of swing (new york post headline reference...). OK, I'll wait for the clue...

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Anyone up for a contest?

"Guess That Show" - details tomorrow.

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SpaceBro

Don't see it mentioned, so in case you have it add the 'New Year's at Winterland' bonus disc to your chronological listening list. That's a lot of New Year's stuff!

The tracks are from the following shows;

Easy Wind - December 31, 1970
Jam > - December 31, 1971
Black Peter - December 31, 1971
Playing In The Band - December 31, 1972
Lazy Lightning > - December 31, 1977
Supplication - December 31, 1977
Sugar Magnolia - December 31, 1977
Scarlet Begonias - December 31, 1977
Fire On The Mountain - December 31, 1977

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Godzilla vs King Kong

I always crack up listening to the 11-8-70 acoustic set. Bob: we're all missing Godzilla vs King Kong tonight. Godzilla spits radioactive fire! Of all the great acoustic sets from '70 this is my favorite. Interesting setlist with El Paso, slow tempo Rider & the last of the elusive Operator. The electric sets are ripping with some rarities as well. I know there is only auds but Dave could you open those dusty boxes just one more time?

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re: Bob/Phil duo tour..............

I'm excited for Phil and Bob that they are doing a bunch of duo shows. I know they enjoy playing with each other - love the camaraderie. I know there will be some great moments, and it's always a fun vibe when these two are on stage together.

A few friends have pinged me: "Let's go!" but not sure I'll pay up for this one... they both create textures/dimensions behind the melodies that really work well... in an ensemble. But I've seen them do the duo thing, even if just as an intro to a song for a few minutes.... Phil playing his non-melodic whale-songs, while Bob does his screechy-toned arpeggio figures (or plays slide!) and blurts/scat-sings Jerry's lyrics. Interesting in small doses, but I miss the the melody lines in the lyrics and especially the soaring lead guitar that push it over the top.

The venues are small and the tickets will be expensive. Of course there will be many great moments and it's so great to see them gigging together like this. I can't wait to see the highlights.

In the meantime, just saw Dead and Co. and JRAD in Boston in the past month - both wonderful. JRAD kinda feels like a hipster "30-something" version of the Dead, for some reason. Different enough to be interesting, yet they still feel like home - go see them.

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Listening

So far I still haven't spent much time with this DaP 24 release. I just got caught up (and even a little ahead) on my anniversary listening of officially released shows. Finished Thelma (DaP 10 & bonus disc)a couple of days ago, and that one is one of my favorite Dave's Picks of the entire series. I also jumped ahead to Dicks Picks 27 (12/16 & 17/92), which always will remind me of traveling to Compton Terrace that tour after Jerry's second (short lived) recovery.

Had to revisit the RFK '89 box a few times. Love that release.

That brings me up to...

12/19/73 Dicks Picks 1
12/20 & 21/69 Dave's Picks 6 (and bonus disc)
12/26/79 Dicks Picks 5
12/28 & 30/79 Road Trips V3 N1 (and bonus disc)
12/31/76 Cow Palace
12/31/78 Closing of Winterland
12/31/87 Ticket to New Years

I'll have listened to every single official release I have in my possession, which is most of them. The ones I still don't have, Fillmore East 2/11/69, Ladies and Gentlemen..., Birth of the Dead, Rare Cuts and Oddities, Winterland '71 RSD LP, Family Dog 4/18/70, Hampton 5/4/79 RSD, Download Series Vols 1 through 4, 6 through 8, Family Dog, Vols 10 and 12 and the Spectrum shows....I didn't check out. These and the FW '69 box are all I'm missing from my collection.

I also hit many of the Jerry releases on their anniversaries as well. So much to take in, especially during busy touring months with much overlap. It's been fun, and a great way to study the bands evolution. I've discovered/rediscovered quite a few neglected shows.

I would recomend anybody try this for a year. A fun way to listen without having to sit back and try to randomly pick. Let the date pick for you. 2018 I'll probably go back to picking randomly again with a few exceptions for some tours.

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slow dog, bob and players

I agree on the Dylan collection, blew me away. I was surprised at the number of different arrangements on the songs. Thought I'd end up with 10 different Slow Trains with only a one note difference. But, yeah, band, voice, arrangements,,, a real winner.

Cowan players - I'll chime in. I've used them for about 15 years, great sound, long battery life. Navigation a little strange at first, but once you get used to it, works great.

sidebar - past spending more money on players, I've taken to using my phone most of the time. It blue tooths into the car, I always have it with me and it holds a shit load of shows. I'm sure there are many who will says the sound quality is not there and they maybe right. But in the car, sunroof open, it sounds just fine. Shopping in supermarket, just fine. Doing the dishes, just fine. In fact most of my listening is NOT done with a "good to great" stereo, it's in the car, at work, in the kitchen or garage. Almost always while doing something else.

Anyway,,,, great Dylan collection!

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Portable audio feedback.

Thanks to all for your advice. According to the reviews the IBasso dx 90 does have a self-replaceable battery and the reviews recommend a genuine samsung s3 for the job. The short battery life but the ability to carry a spare gives the edge to the dx 90 over the dx80 plus perhaps better sound.

The sony nw a37hn is still intriguing with Hi Res playing ability and 45 hour battery life(mp3) and somewhat less when playing flac. Yet the dx90 might have better sound than this sony w/64gb internal(only 8gb on dx90) sony takes a micro up to 128mb(some say more than that).

To any one who is reading would you go for the ibasso dx 90 or the sony nw a37hn??? Thanks all.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1127830-REG/ibasso_ibasso_dx90_dx...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1319437-REG/sony_nwa37hn_b_64gb_h...

There are shops where the comparable prices on both models are close to the same.

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Lots of Music/Dylan

There's lots to listen to right now between Dave's 23 and 24, the RFK box set, and Get Shown the Light, but I haven't been able to put down the new Dylan box set: Trouble No More.

I always kind of skimmed over this period - Street Legal was the last Dylan album that really hooked me until Time out of Mind. But after digesting these 8 discs of material i'm blown away:

Precious Angel, Caribbean Wind, Covenant Woman, Pressing On, Watered Down Love, Do Right unto Me, these are all songs I wasn't familiar with before, maybe heard once or twice before, but wow, these are incredible songs.

I'm not crazy about some of the lyrics, but the music is so good, Dylan's voice is really strong, and his band is so great that im really delving into this period. So amazing.

Can't wait for the next Dave's announcement. I know 25 will be a good show, but I'm looking forward to something outside of the 77-78 window. H

I appreciate the audio recs too. My 160 Ipod classic is on its last legs. Im going to be sad to retire it. Damn apple for discontinuing this product. I suspect they realized they couldn't serially monetize a self-contained music only player, but that's its own topic.

Happy holidays all.

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digital media player

The Cowon Planue D is a terrific player for a great price. It does only what you want it to do...and that is play high res files up to 192/24. I've had it for almost a year; no complaints. I've added a Oppo Ha 2 Se DAC amp to it and I get some super rich sounds to my ears. Currently hooked up with Audeze isine 20s.

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deadegad

When I was investigating new players the reviews I found were all favorable about iBasso so I went with that and am very happy. The DX80 is a newer model than the 90, but the 90 has a replaceable battery supposedly.
1 TB micro SDXC cards don’t exist yet. Currently I’m just using two 128 GB cards that I got at Sam’s Club for a few bucks less than at Amazon.
The DX80 has a mini optical port which I use to connect to my stereo and it sounds awesome using ALAC files. I got a 2-pack of 6 foot mini Toslink to Toslink cables at Amazon for around $15.
The DX80 USB port is only for power, music does not transfer through the USB port, but it has 3 other ports to use for delivering the music (headphones are one of the ports).

For the SDXC cards I just put each show in its own folder.

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A Few Thoughts...

...about this release.

Things are going slow around these parts, but I have been cranking this one in my car for the past week or so, and I am thoroughly impressed. I am actually a bigger fan of the long set 1 on this release than the relatively short (for 72) 2nd set. That being said, all of disc 3 is solid, and the Stella Blue is very nice, if a bit different. However, what really impresses me about this one is disc 2. The FOTD is great, and reminds me of why I prefer these early, faster versions. The Promised Land RIPS, the Bird Song and Playin' are 72 greatness, and the Bertha is... AWESOME. Sometimes I find that it is fun to hear the boys goof-up, and has been mentioned a number of times before, Jerry really does PLAY his ass off on this one,... and hearing him struggle to get through the lyrics is pretty funny - I've been there before and I can certainly relate. Sometimes, they just won't come to you, and the microphone in your face doesn't help any. By the 3rd verse, it seems like he finally has it, but NOPE! Couldn't get through that one either :)

Anyway, I hope we get a page for Daves 25 soon, so we have a consistent place to hang-out, and an announcement for 26. I am hoping 26 is something early, like a double-shot 68 show, or something great sounding from the earlier portion of the Brent-era with a fun setlist. Of course, when it turns out that it is Jai-Alai 6/23/74, I will NOT be disappointed.

Peace

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iBasso 90?

https://www.amazon.com/iBasso-DX90-Resolution-Connection-Distributor/dp/...

I was looking at the one above also. How large are the sd micro chips are you using?

According to what I am reading about iBasso they can accommodate up to 2TBs! Imagine what those must cost?

Thanks everyone.

The Sony nw a37hn has a much longer battery life. I am not tech savvy enough with this subject matter.

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@ Icecrmkid & Direwulf

Thanks for the tip on the iBasso DX80 which I am reading about right now. It has slots for two chips which equals two TBytes. Now that's a lot of memory.

DireW: I have a samsung galxay J3 (6) and am debating whether or not to make do with it instead of the above mentioned Hi Res Vault.

Thanks guys any other input is welcomed.

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deadegad

iBasso DX80
It’s awesome.

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Samsung

My samsung galaxy plays flac and hi-res files without having to do anything. Sounds great and is played back at the proper bit rate...if you need a dedicated player with a tone of space i guess spend the money but i dont see a need to carry around my entire vault of music. Cant sit and listen to it all at the same time anyway!

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Advice on Hi Res portable audio players.

My old Zen Creative mp3 player went kaput. I had it since 2005 -- built to last?

I am looking at some Hi Res Players which have micro sd card slots for more music.

Sony has a couple that i am looking at: Sony NW-A37HN 64GB Walkman

and the cheaper Sony nw a35.

Any thoughts would be welcomed.

I am not spending $1000 + on some of those other models.

I love this place and God Bless All Here.

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Re: All About the Bass

This release rings clear as a bell wherever I play it: home stereo, my car, ear buds, Bose noise cancelling headphones. All in all, the bass sounds perfectly integrated, at least to me. Each recording has its own tonality, so I don't expect any two of them to sound the same. And I always assume that during the remastering process, things are (necessarily) modified from the source-sound to create as clear a listening experience as possible. Otherwise, they'd just transfer and release each show "as is".

Actually, to my ear, both the bass and drums in the "Get Shown the Light" box set are much more prominent than in other releases. But after a few listens, it all rolls into one.

Regardless, it sucks that this one is unlistenable to you, LoveJerry. Because, despite the vocal crash-and-burn of "Bertha", it really is a pretty sweet show.

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Loud bass on #24

I was reading an article with an engineer from Warner brothers in the booklet that came with the CD release of "In wake of the flood", He mentioned that it was very interesting working with the Dead, and he had recorded with groups from the Stones to Led Zeppelin. He said that the Dead were very interesting to watch, and to see how they interacted with each other. He said all of the band except Phil were in Studio A, and Phil was in a booth in studio B, He said that it took 2 guys to carry each of his 4 speaker cabinets, one for each string of his bass. The engineer Tom, said that when they were done that they had to go into his booth and tighten up all of the screws and anything that could go loose since the whole place was shaking from his bass playing and you know "In the wake of the flood" was a pretty mellow record. And after it is finished, it is a great recording. Phil's bass is not too loud . Phil is a great bass player, had sounds like only he could get out of that bass.

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Mastering? Jeffery Norman interview

Jeffery Norman is interviewed by Blair Jackson here on dead.net from 2007 (I think):

www.dead.net/features/interviews/mixing-and-mastering-dead-s-archives-je...

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It's a Dave's anniversary!....

....of the DaP Boulder show. I know a lot of you didn't like the pick. I like it though, so good for me I guess....dibs on a couple of those Led Zep CDs diggey is offering btw

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Daves Picks and RFK Boxset

It's my annual CD sale. All of these are excellent condition and are either duplicates or cd sets where I have most or all of the songs. Some have been played once. I'll combine shipping and if you buy a bunch I'll make some deals. I can also send pictures if needed. USA only. They include:

Grateful Dead- Daves Picks- limited releases-
Volume 20 12/9/81 University of Colorado (2 copies, one opened $20 and one sealed $30).
Volume 22 12/7/71 Felt Forum ($20) with Bonus disk 12/6/71 Felt Forum ($25) or $45 for both.
Volume 24 8/25/72 Berkeley Theatre ($20)

Led Zeppelin- $8 each- all of these are the recent reissue/remastered deluxe editions with extra bonus disks: for sale is: Presence, Physical Graffiti, Coda, In Through the Out Door, Led Zep II, Led Zep III. $8 each.

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Headphones

Choice of headphone makes all the difference in this release, for me.

LJ, what is your headphone audio chain?

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Background

In music production? I don't know nothing about it. -:)

I only have a friend who has a recording studio and I've seen various documentaries on the recording of some albums. It seems that sound engineers use both headphones and studio monitors.

I think that, since this recordings where mixed at the moment to two track tapes, maybe J.Norman has few things that he can made to solve sound problems on the original tapes. But really, I don't know.

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Definitely

He definitely altered the bass to give it a boost, he said as much in an email response to some people on the Steve Hoffman site. I was just wondering if he maybe skipped out on listening to the final product on headphones. It sounds good to me on a home system, but on my headphones, which are very expensive and have excellent bass response, it's so deep and powerful that it hurts my ears unless I turn down the bass (it gives the sensation of pressure on the eardrums). If I put on earbud headphones it doesn't produce the same effect, so I guess one needs earphones with very good bass reproduction for it to be noticeable. I love Jeff's work, I just wonder if it was a calculated decision to release it this way, or if he didn't do a headphones trial with the finished product.

Edit - funny Thin :) (the new Norm)

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Mastering

To be honest, I didn't hear to this recording on headphones, but on my home system it sounds good to me.

I don't know how it's the mastering work of J. Norman but he really does it wery well almost all the time.

Maybe this recording was too flat and needed the bass boost.

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