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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of 5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire," "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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June 1, 2024 - 9:15am

#1

icecrmcnkd

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A Box is a Box is a Box

Doesn’t matter what’s in it as long as it sounds better than what I already have, or is something I don’t already have.
I want it all.
I copy the CD’s to a HD, convert to ALAC, load onto a microSDXC card, and play with a music player. Each show goes into a folder named as the date of the show. Thus, all shows are chronological in my collection and aren’t ordered according the DP, DaP, RT, or Box number.

Bring on the Halaskawaii Box.
June 1, 2024 - 4:49am

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Dennis

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tn john and 11-9-73

Not coming thru,,,,

verification

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June 1, 2024 - 3:56am

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daverock

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Hey now!

To you, too!
June 1, 2024 - 12:43am

#4

Danehead

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Grape/Pistachio..

Love both G/P and will love this box, too.. BW for a happy weekend to you all..
June 1, 2024 - 12:16am

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Obeah

Joined:
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Flavor combo

Came here via a slingshot on Mars. It's been a minute... I grew weary of getting constantly hey now'd.

Was just wondering if folks were talking about the box set rumors. And I see you have been :) Me, I don't know what to make of it. I'll certainly buy it if it's true; the Alaska solstice show is fun. And I'm always down for 1970! But if it's actually true then it's a strange brew. Like Grape Pistachio ice cream. And yet the people who like Grape Pistachio really like Grape Pistachio...
May 31, 2024 - 4:17pm

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RyXs

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Blues Bridge from 1970 to 1980

The only way this works in my mind is if the sets are really bluesy themed. For the 1970 Pig shows, that's an easy reach with songs like Easy Wind! Now for the early era Brent shows, they've certainly got a more gritty blues sounding feel than much of the Keith and Donna era. At first I do think it does sound odd, (and still a rumor) to pair 1970 with 1980, but with a bluesy motif and set list for '80, I believe one could match up the somewhat seemingly distant eras. I don't think that same philosophical idea would work for applying late '80s Brent era to primal Pig.
May 31, 2024 - 1:18pm

#7

gratefulgerd

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Crow...

100 % agree. That's the way I see it, too.
Different years/decades, different set-lists makes it even more interesting to listen to something new.
For comparison you always have your own personal archive.
HI '70 and AK '80 sounds very interesting to me.
And there's a lot more!
Cheers
May 31, 2024 - 12:15pm

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Crow Told Me

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I was only following order

I don't think I've ever listened to a box set all the way through in order. Or even tried.

They come in the mail, and I cue up the first disc of whichever show I'm most eager to hear, and I listen to that show, all the way through in one sitting, if possible. And then I make plans to get to all the rest of 'em sooner than later.

I did think the variety you get in something like the River box was nice. The '71 shows were significantly different from the '73 ones in every way: personnel, set lists, and most certainly audio quality. If Dave has said he values continuity in a box set, I don't what he was thinking there.

Bottom line: I just want great shows in good sound. Most (not all, but most) of the boxes deliver. Hawaii '70 and Alaska '80 would be a weird combo, but I'm-a try to withhold judgment till I hear the music. Or at least confirm the rumor.
May 31, 2024 - 11:22am

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alvarhanso

Joined:
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All the years combine

And melt into a dream, but like daverock, I like more of the single year boxes. Even if it means lower distinct song count, and more of a monotonous sound if on repeated listens. Sometimes the difference between tours is enough of a demarcation point for me to strongly prefer the sound of one over the other, such as Spring '77 vs Fall '77. Fall '72 vs Summer '72. Differences between years are often more jarring, usually due to recording and equipment differences, but also musically. Pigpen to Brent in one box, with no Keith would be massively jarring. For multi-year boxes, I lean more toward the '72 shows in Listen to the River, the '89 shows in Giants Stadium, and enjoy the PacNW shows pretty evenly. 30 Trips doesn't count, I was getting that no matter what, plus, it encompasses all years, save 1965. Give me a central focus for a box, and I'm much happier. That's my view on it, anyway.
May 31, 2024 - 10:26am

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daverock

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Thematic Unity

I've never really thought about that before - but on reflection, the boxes that span different years don't really hold up as box sets for me. Both The St. Louis and North Pacific ones feature great shows - but I have never played them in the order they are presented since the first time I played them. I still hear each years shows in the context of other shows from that year - not in the context of other shows in the box they are released in.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of 5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire," "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

5/10/87 Set 2

Bucket as set 2 opener is great and then the Scarlet>Fire is worth hearing if you haven't... the Aiko is "way too effing slow". Check it out.

May 10

1972

🍻....

....I do like to post this cheers emoji every now and then. A week or so ago I got hey nowed. Removed it and my post went through.
Testing it again. Well. What do you know. It went through.
It's random shit causing this. There is nothing to decifer.

Wake up to find out

You Hey Now’d your loyal fan base away.

Nice paraphrase ice cream kid

Maybe they're trying to kill the brand

Obscure reference but here goes

jack skellington says

they're trying to hit us

These nimrods are trying to kill the brand

Let's see if this works...courtesy of the Circle Jerks

I've got the world up my ass
And I'm gonna move fast
Be the first
Won't be the last
I've got the world up my ass
Society is burning me up
Take a bite,
Spit it out
Take their rules
Rip 'em up,
Tear them down
Twisted mind,
Withered brain
You know I'm going insane
I just tell them to get back
When they tell me how to act
I've got the world up my ass
You know I've got the world up my ass

It worked!! Go figure!

Music with a pulse

Incredible live 30 minutes of The Jeff Beck Group at the Fillmore West on 7/24/68 included in the "Twilight of the Idols" double cd set of their live recordings 1967-1968.

Circle jerks

Ah yes an old favorite

Another Defective Disc

Finally got around to playing DaP 50 the other day, and what do you know? Disc two doesn't play all the way through Roses. And taking a close look at it it's clearly defective. So here we go again.

in the past, I've always gotten replacement discs in a reasonable amount of time. (A couple weeks.) And I know these things do happen. And it's been a couple years since I've had an issue. But still. I can't remember the last time that I got a new CD that would not play from any other company. I can't understand why this is such a constant problem with the Dead releases.

Anyway.

DaP is a good show, once it gets going. But the boys sure took their sweet time waking up for this particular gig. It's pretty low energy until that Sugaree that everyone is (justifiably) so excited about. I think the Bill the Drummer (belated hbd bro!) is the hero here: he starts pushing some triplets on the toms, and he won't stop till everybody picks up on it, and suddenly the music really starts happening. A good show from there on out but I doubt if I'll return to that first disc anytime soon.

So this is a good show, I'm glad to have it, yada yada. But it's hard for me to get too excited about it. There are at least 5-6 shows from the same damn tour I like better. I guess I'm pretty jaded, no?

Last five!
Flaming Lips: American Head
Billy Strings: Home
GOGD: DaP 50
Zappa: Make a Jazz Noise Here
Sonny Rollins: A Night at the Vanguard

Daves 50th

After listening to this for the first time earlier today, I would agree that the first cd is very unexciting. The three slow songs is just too many at the same funereal pace. I really like the "Peggy O' played on 5/8, but this one here is nothing special.
Things do pick up though during the second set - sparkles like snow flakes on a curates garden, you might say. Although you probably wouldn't. The whole show doesn't sound that essential really - but pretty good once it picks up a gear.

Crow

please send me a PM with the details and I'll ask the Doc to fix this. Sorry for the aggravation.

A second yes for 9 2 85

Its really good

I love that GD85 energy

Marye

Yay

You are still among us

I thought they had removed you

Please tell them the Hey Now stuff is bad for business

50, Sphere

Blocked from posting ad nauseam Hey Now. Not fully caught up yet, first run 50. So far same original impression way back, second night with all its flaws, a little more magic. Speaking of magic, holy smokes, been checking out the outrageous and stunning video from Phish at The Sphere.

Nelson Muntz points finger and says

“Ha, Ha!”

It’s great seeing so many unsold scalper tix for D&C Sphere.

Answer

Better cyber-security. Strengthen the huge holes that are obviously open.

Makes me wonder how good is the front door when I am putting in information.

Thats all i have to say bout that.

4 8 71

:)))

Wiss... I'll see your 5/10…

Wiss... I'll see your 5/10 and raise you a 5/11 lol

Road trip today

9 2 85
4 8 71
Surprise filler from 71 with Keith
Big Black album Atomizer
Ministry a mind is a terrible thing to taste
A few tracks from Dave's 50 disc 2

Road Trip to Primm, NV....

....to see Blues Traveler tonight.
An hour drive. Haven't seen them since the early 2000's. Tix are $40.
Pleasantly surprised to see the line up is still the same.

*Re/ New Years Eve Performances /Wanted

…I would really Love another “New Year’s performance release from the vault for the masses! If there’s one annual event I miss most was the groups New Year’s Eve celebrations they held at the Oakland Coliseum. The last was in 91’ I believe. Something was always special about them in my IMHO. I’ve never seen a larger sea of smiles from all the fans & attendees shine, with the house lights changing colors like great Roman candles in the sky. Phil s playing making the floors vibrate under your feet. Everything felt Special!
One of my favorite & gig is 1987! Believe it or not being from 1987, it’s an excellent show from start to finish! I believe it was also networked on television and radio for the entire country! Any other fans of the New Year Eve performances and would welcome a New release from the vault?….

50

Not spectacular.

I saw Jerry's Middle Finger the other night, those mofos can play. I absolutley loved it.
I do think that name in kinda dumb though...

JMF

Not the most tactful name I agree

Going to see my mom....

....5.12.77 Chicago in the car. She's a thirty minute drive. Just exactly perfect.
Did not see Blues Traveler. Took an extended "nap" after that post and missed it lol.

Road trip

The Strokes is this it
Dave's 50 disc 2
Ministry a mind yada
Big Black atomizer
Dave's 50 disc 3
Selections from 3 24 71
Opening track 11 25 79
David Bowie heroes

5.12.77....

....Bobby told someone to shut up prior to Sunrise.
Yeah. You tell em!

Hey now police

Go die

Just Got Home...

from a two part road trip over the past week...on Monday off to Phoenix to see old friends and Tuesday night hit the Stones at the stadium the Cardinals play...Wednesday was a day of shopping and driving home late... I hit various book stores and music shops I like...one of the stores never fails to delight in their clearance sale section for blues & Jazz at 99 Cent$ each...grabbed about 20 of them...I also bought a copy of RFK Stadium, Washington, D.C. 6/10/73...got some great books too...I spent Thursday sleeping and Friday I headed out to Las Vegas to hang with an old friend and treated him to my extra tix for Saturday's Stones show at Allegiant Stadium...all in all a great time...

Trying to

post positive review of new release

Apparently the word double u eye en en ee r is verboten

Beyond l a m e

8 5 71

Tasty

5/13/73

Ist show in last years big box. The whole might take a while to get off the ground, as you might expect from such a humongous show, but Jerry's guitar is spot on from the first note. Beautiful tone and playing.

#50

I've very much been enjoying our latest offering from DL & CO.

I've always been a big fan of Peggy-O, and this is yet another stellar spring 77 version!!

On the morning of, 8/9/95, after hearing the news, I went and drove to my friends house to share in the grief of the day. As I started driving the tape in my car (10/17/94) was silent as all I could hear was the band tuning up. Once the music started it was Peggy-O. A very stunning moment, to my new stunning reality.

Rock on, gang!!

Winterland!

Argh. You guys, I feel your pain. The extremely short version is that, as previously noted, the tech folks are hard at work on many things, one of which is a newer and better site for us. And as with so many things in life, it takes longer than we'd hoped. Your cries are not falling on deaf ears and we are sorry for the aggravation. Thank you.

RIP David Sanborn

another one

Thank you for communicating Marye

y'all be cool

5/13

1972
The front cover from the E72 CD box is just so tres francais!!

Thanks Mary

Thanks Mary!

And when will they announce that October 74 box?

Still can't get that W word past the Hey Now.

If anyone has the Origins graphic novel...

Please PM me. But only if you have the Oct '68 CD that went along with it.

Cheers, HF

Thanks to marye

We've b****ed about the sheet enough. At least I have.

Apologies for the whining.

Looking forward!

HF, origins

I don’t have it. There was no CD, just an LP if I recall correctly.

Thanks Marye

New and improved coming soon…….

As Homer Simpson previously stated: “They have the internet on computers now”.

5/13/78...

...phila spectrum,
3 friends: Brian ("The Load" RIP), Dan ("The Man" RIP), and Mike ("Chumpweed", btw r u still in DE?) miracled me to my 1st show (I had just returned home on 4/30 after 5 weeks in a Brooklyn hospital) and I was in a fragile all-around state, and needed some LIVE MUSIC to get back to reality.

Thank You Guys, my life has never been the same since hearing the GOGD on that Saturday night.

Mike, if Penndel and Cobalt Ridge sound familiar please PM me. I would love to meet up with you. I believe I saw Aunt Shelly @ the Sunshine Daydream Meet Up @ the Movies several years ago w/ her piercing blue eyes.

...now I'm off to the archive for many more smiles : 1978-05-13 Identifier #116978 : and lovin' life

I went down to the sea
try to see what's going down
maybe read between the lines
had a feeling I was falling, falling, falling
turned around to see
heard a voice calling, calling, calling
you was comin after me
back to me

Peace All!

PS - if you like early '78, Truckin'>Black Peter>Sugar Mags>SSDD 🤯

Mama MaryE....

.....is on the case.

You will never regret being kind.

Vguy

I am going to pass the being kind sentiment on to my students

A convenient side effect of Dead & Co playing 24 shows here....

....are smaller bands working their tours around it.
There are a few playing the Brooklyn Bowl that I'm interested in.
Eggy is one of them. Daniel Donatos Cosmic Country. Circles Around The Sun. Melvin Seals and JGB is playing there again. Pink Talking Fish changed their name to Pink Talking Fish Are Dead for the two shows they are playing.
The downside? Most doors are at 11. And it looks like the old man's getting on.
Got Pearl Jam this saturday evening.
Pretty good seats. Upper bowl center. 3rd row.

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