Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!
The Complete Recordings
Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.
After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.
Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!
Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!
This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.
Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.
Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).
So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.
These forums make electric sparks go off in my brain, sometimes. I thought this thread disappeared over a month ago.
When is the Dave's Picks thread gonna get started? I wanna start bitching again ;)
...at least 90 days and probably more, but I understand timing is the thing. You do not have to return defective merchandise unless they come up with a pre-paid postage label -- and that is if you want to be nice. MC/V (if you paid by either of those two) Association rules state the product is yours to keep if it is defective.. However, the bank will try to get you to return the product.
Hey, I want to pay for my product but I want to have replacement covers for the entire set because they are all at exactly the same risk for tearing. The disc being replaced goes without saying but the ephemera I am willing to relinquish. Can "ephemera" actually be pinned down as anything?
I think Rhino knows they've screwed up big-time on quality-control with this one and is monitoring the situation with special response. I think. That would be highly unusual for them. They just don't seem to care when an order screws up.
1. #5787 of 7200
2. I haven't had any problem (yet) removing the discs from the packaging. I put my thumb and forefingers on opposite sides of the opening and squeeze slightly on the cardboard sleeve as I pull out the disc by the edge with my other hand. Once out, the discs are NOT going back into the sleeves but into paper sleeves. I'm going to end up with the empty sleeves all back in the trunk and the truck in the shipping box, with the discs on a shelf somewhere.
2 1/2. About five minutes after posting this, I tore my first sleeve. Karma is a bitch...
3. I was just about to ask whether anyone else heard a flaw/defect at about the 1:30 mark of the Munich Dark Star, but it's playing fine here on the computer. Must be a disagreement between the disc and my car's stereo...
I too, have been thinking about disputing this purchase for about the same reasons as Lama, except I have Ten (that's right 10) discs that I have requested replacements on plus 4 sleeves that ripped when touched. My personal number came in below 1500 and the personalzation that I asked for was there. It makes no sense that if the first 3000 were to be labeled with what ever you wanted on it, that some of the first orders, even tho screwed up, should still have came in with a low number and personalized.
For Rhino to say that they are "random" numbers is a huge fuck up on their part, there had to be a system in place, first ordered, first numbered, I would think, and when that was interrupted by a changed address or credit card number, you got bumped to the back of the line, or in some cases, thrown into a random number grab bag to be picked out one at a time? Sounds like the whole number system crashed and this is the way that they figured out how to fix it.
It's funny that that first page advertising the box set back on Jan 19th is gone and has been replaced by this one, which came about after the 4 day sell out. But, I do remember that they said the first 3000 would be "personalized" and numbered as the orders came in.
So here's the 64000$ question, when you dispute a claim here at dead.net, what happens to the merchandise? Do you have to send it back? Who pays for the return shipping? Or, do you get to keep the defective merchandise and not have to pay for it? Back in the early 90's I disputed a credit card charge from the Mercantile company, it was removed from my card and the merchandise was mine to keep. If that's the case and there is ligit concerns for them not providing what was advertised and promised, which in my personal opinion there is, Rhino could take a giant hit here, not that I want to end the promise of more Grateful Dead music, but personally, I can't wait till Rhino no longer has control of this music.
Lama, let us all know what happens, I have 2 weeks to dispute mine before the credit card bill is due and if there is ligit concerns recognized by a major credit card company, I'm in on the dispute and will send my box back if Rhino pays for the return shipping, or keep it if that's what they decide. Or, hopefully, they will replace bad discs and ripped sleeves and get this whole number thing right. We can only hope.
I've got 2923/7200 deluxe box set.
In replying to frogfog's recent post.
i was one of the original 3,000 - and never canceled my order. if 600+ folks cancelled - i would still be considered one of the first 3K - i was never bumped up.
also- everyone got a sticker, all 7200 folks - i just wonder why the first 3,000 numbers out of 7,200 were not peronslized - and the numbers were merely chosen at random - which means that there are folks out there who could have a non personalized edition and still have a number under 3k/7200. - which would look like to most folks that they have one of the first 3K. when it's all said and done i'm still digging the music. i listened to much of the tour while travelling the west on the latest fall furthur tour. great stuff.
sfwharfrat, your personalized box number 3608 suggests than more than 600 of the original orders were either cancelled or not seen through - which is quite possible. That you got an "unpersonal" personalization is really rather strange and inexplicable, but at least you got a sticker!
Okay, I was one of the first 3,000 folks to jump on the bus - and my personalization was to be "wharf rat" - i finally got my set - and my box number is 3608/7200 - with the personalization "grateful dead europe 72" - Rhino tells me that i was one of the first 3,000 - and they'll send me a sticker that says "wharf rat" - but the numbers were chosen randomly - and mine is 3608/7200 - and that I should not have expected a number between 1/3000 out of 7200 - only a personal note printed on the sticker. Did anyone else experience this too?
On the dispute form from the credit card company:
Describe in detail the problem and how it was defective
One of the discs in the set of 63 is defective. The protective covers are very poor quality and more than half of them are ripped and need to be replaced (replaced with better quality covers would be appropriate). The advertizing for this product included "ephemera" and no ephemera was provided.
I hate to have to take it to this length but when something screws up in the store it seems like it takes forever to fix it, if it ever gets fixed at all. What galls me about this particular purchase was the big hype and the very disappointing product that came out the other end of the pipeline.
There was no huge hurry and some production and quality control was definitely in order here. Another month, more or less, to wait would have been worth it. It seems as if different products are designed and made in different ways according to the genesis of the idea. I never heard of that model for running a business.
~ Old hippies never fall, they just keep on tripping ~
#4586 / 7200 here.