Grateful Dead

September 3 - September 9, 2007

Tapers Section By David Lemieux

We have a tremendous variety of music for you this week, spanning almost 20 years of the Grateful Dead’s recorded history, and we hope you’ll find this week’s journey as enjoyable as we did while preparing it for you.

As we mentioned last week, we have a bit more music from the Family Dog in San Francisco, specifically the encore from 9/6/69, a nice Pigpen-led Midnight Hour, with plenty of good jamming in the background.

Our next chronological stop on this week’s trip is 9/9/72 at the Palladium in Hollywood (venue of the performance of one of the best-ever versions of Hard To Handle, in 1971). From this show in 1972, we have the second set jam of He’s Gone>Truckin’>The Other One, which features a reel flip that is just a fact of life in these 7” reel-to-reel tapes, which run at 7.5 ips, meaning the tape is changed every 47 or so minutes. It’s always fortunate when the cuts are located in acceptable places, like this, rather than the brutal cuts that often destroy the listening experience. This one really isn’t too bad.

At this point we jump forward a year to 9/7/73 at Nassau Coliseum, with a song that mightn’t be what people think of first when they think of 1973: Looks Like Rain. This is a really great rendition, and just sounds so darn good, we thought you’d enjoy it. And, for a dose of quintessential 1973 music, we have the first set closing song from the same show: Playing In The Band. I really can’t get enough of these 1973 Playing In The Bands, and this one certainly doesn’t disappoint.

Going forward to 1985, to 9/3/85 in Kansas City, we have the pre-Drums sequence featuring That’s It For The Other One>Eyes of the World>I Don’t Need Love. The “Cryptical” part of the sequence in 1985 never quite matched the energy or perfection of the 1969 versions, but the “Other One” portion of the song is very good, as is the Eyes and the rare Don’t Need Love. This is drawn from the Beta PCM digital masters.

Lastly this week, we have a couple of songs from London on 4/7/72, specifically Pigpen’s Chinatown Shuffle and a powerhouse Me and My Uncle.

As sometimes happens, we have no idea what we’ll have for you next week, but looking at what we have to select from, it’s bound be to be a nice selection of some excellent music. Let us know what you think by writing with questions, comments, suggestions or requests.

David Lemieux
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lethedoom's picture
Joined: Jun 4 2007
like another dimension

This was the sort of reaction I had hoped we would get here.

I like the Dead Show on KOPN at
and I posted a comment at

lethedoom said...

Welcome back Professor and good luck with your healing and physical therapy.

I noticed that this Dead Show file is about half the usual size and at
96kbps instead of the 128kbps of former posts.

There has been bitter reaction to the recent changes at the
DeadNet Tapers Section and Grateful Dead Hour posts, in part because not even a rudimentary explanation of why access to the music had been downgraded was offered. I hope you will restore the 128kbps quality or at least tell us why you downgraded the posting quality next week.

Thank you for all of the wonderful music you have shared with us and archived.

11:12 AM

the professor said...

My bad. my main production computer crashed just before I got sick. I restored it but apparently the settings for this application were not restored correctly. I will re-upload this week's show at the correct encoding. My apologies - thanks for pointing it out.

11:40 AM

sixstringsmoreorLesh's picture
Joined: Jun 4 2007
your ek ha!

tj crowley

i did it!!! i did it.!!!.i figured it out!!!!!!

figured how to stream it THEN placed an old tape recorder next to the speaker (only one mike) and have time to listen to while travelling to/fro work, shopping, aa mtg's, school (just two more classes then ba/bs psy-soc) YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joined: Jun 8 2007

Everyone on the previous 14 pages is right

I was watching my legally purchased copy of the Closing of Winterland last night with the interview with David L. describing the work that went into that project and I wondered if he ever imagined he'd have this kind of fun

There are periods in my life when the only music that satisfies my soul is the GOGD. This is one of those periods. Bring on more music

I, personally, don't mind the stoppage of the downloads as it forces me to go back to listen to some stuff i haven't listened to in a while.

I've had no trouble streaming on three different computers but can understand if some folks can't figure it out...I've been there.

It is true that the suits who make these decisions just don't "get it" but have you ever known a time when the suits did "get it?"

Why would they let people who don't "get it" have control of the vault?

It's all about the music

smile smile smile

Why don't they serve us breakfast on Monday mornings? A free, downloadable coupon for breakfast at the nearest (insert breakfast spot here) would be a good idea.

Don't you hate long posts?

Have a grateful weekend.

Joined: Sep 7 2007

I can't believe all of the negative comments as of late regarding the mp3 downloading/streaming issue. You people act like it's your god given right to get free music. What other band/organization does anything like this at all? The band has given us free music from the beginning. Be happy with what you have while you still have it. Enjoy more and complain less!

red8sox (not verified)
Well Said.....

I like the thoughts of Dead Tanuki above.....

"too much of everything is just enough"...........

And yes, I have heard more times than I can count.."you aren't going to move those boxes and boxes of tapes again are you?" from friends, wives and relatives.

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Joined: Jun 6 2007
Copy of Text from Web

Most of you know that the Vault was moved to Burbank last year after Rhino took over responsibility for running the business side of the Grateful Dead.
"The Dead all started individual endeavors," said Mr. Edwards of Rhino, "and they needed a partner to provide infrastructure." Part of the arrangement said: "Under the landmark license agreement, Rhino assumes the primary responsibility for the full range of Grateful Dead assets, recorded and otherwise, including the vast archive of unreleased live concert recordings, the band's official website (, all related direct-to-consumer and merchandise businesses, the growing variety of digital initiatives, and select band-related name and likeness licensing."
That meant moving the vault. In August, the Marin Independent Journal reported on the transfer:

"The musical legacy of the Grateful Dead - some 13,000 live audio and video recordings spanning the band's 30-year concert career - left Marin County in a temperature-controlled truck and is now being stored in a huge Warner Brothers Music vault in Southern California.

The transfer of the priceless 'vault' recordings - from a Novato warehouse to a Fort Knox-like facility in Burbank - is a physical manifestation of a milestone deal that effectively dissolves Marin-based Grateful Dead Productions and turns over the Hall of Fame band's business operations to Rhino Entertainment, a subsidiary of giant Warner Music Group."


Joined: Jun 6 2007

whine, whine, whine, we deserve blah blah blah... rat bastards... boycott...

gotta love this shit - been going on for 30 years and still going strong.

loved the 72 stuff this week!

dead tanuki's picture
Joined: Aug 27 2007
David Gans's 8-gig comment

was made in response to a specific poster's complaint. Somebody asked if it was so wrong to want a few freebies for their iPod, and Gans asked why 8 gigs of freebies weren't enough. Basically it seemed like he was responding to the "sense of entitlement" that many have been pointing out as being on display recently. As far as that goes, I think his comment was fair, and doesn't rate him being called a "tool" (as he was shortly thereafter) or "holier-than-thou." Like D Lemieux, you have to applaud D Gans for making available what he does--check out GDHour 421 posted this week, fantastic pre-Dead Jerry--and assume that the format decision wasn't his.

That said, I found his comment momentarily jarring, too. Is it really such a good idea, from the organization's perspective, to ever suggest to a Deadhead that s/he has enough Dead? I mean, most of us have between dozens to hundreds of hours of Dead (thousands, even). Even somebody who has bought all the official releases to date has more hours of Dead than most people would consider necessary for most any band. To want more--maybe it is crazy. Maybe we'll all wake up one morning and think, "hey, I guess I DO have enough Dead--who needs more Vault releases? I think I'll start collecting blues records instead." This has to be Rhino/GDP's worst nightmare...

On the other hand, parents/friends/lovers/spouses have been asking us this for decades--"don't you already have enough Dead?"--and it hasn't stopped us yet. So I guess this won't, either.

(I have to add that, personally, I'm less bothered by the "sense of entitlement" folks than by all the people complaining about the "sense of entitlement." It's just a little too Rush Limbaugh for me...)

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Joined: May 26 2007

You know, the best thing for me about next Monday morning is that I won't have to wade through the pages of vitriol for at least 12 hours or so. Unless, perhaps, the flogging of this particular former equine has passed.

I wish I had an in with David L.... I'd request a whole page of just screamin' Brent tunes.

Joined: Aug 20 2007
Note for "certain fans"

Hey "certain" mp3 outlaws. This is a request for one of you lawbreaking cretins. Has anyone compiled a list of those mp3s and how many there are? I have a number of all that were posted and think I have them all. Have any of you future Guantana moe larry curlies (spread out!) posted those babies for all of us to get at?

I apologize if this has been posted in the scads of preceding emails but reading more than a page or two makes me kind of queasy and I have to so something more fun.




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