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    By suggestion from phatmoye: "A lot of my friends and co-workers have never been to a fest or Grateful Dead show. I've tried to explain it to them but I'm at a loss of words. All I can do is smile, smile, smile and tell them that it's nothing but kindness. i'd love to get some feedback from some heads on explaining what to tell them."

    The question seemed to strike a nerve in the tour topic, so we're giving it a home of its own!

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    Kdingijhingn! I nondkopanot a cindoijck apnna fgop an ekijgnaihihythajkhga.That should do it... works every time for me. (~) ;- } "The task is, not so much to see what no one has yet seen; but to think what nobody has yet thought, about that which everybody sees." - Erwin Schrödinger
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    phil put it well when he said (and i am paraphrasing): 'a dead show is one part sports event, one part church.' this explains the two 'poles' of how deadheads view the experience. some heads see the show as a raucous good time rock-n-roll event, and nothing more. some see it as a religious experience (i.e. jerry is god) and refuse to see the more down to earth (sometimes negative) aspects of the show. most of us are somewhere in the middle. here's my take: the grateful dead provide a space for a psychedelic dance experience. this happens to take the form of a rock concert. in actuality, people have been doing this for tens of thousands of years. we just happen to live in a time and a culture where this sort of thing is rare and marginalized, so it seems unique. not so. other 'jam' bands have been able to get in on the act, to a degree. (none of them come close to the dead's subtle blend of bucolic pastoralism and cosmic terror.) in the late 80's / early 90's house music and rave culture came very close to matching the grandeur and heady rush of the dead scene. in fact, for a brief period from about '92-'93, the rave scene was kicking the dead scene's ass. (i was doing both, so i know.) of course, that scene has now been co-opted by alcohol, speed, and bad attitudes, but sometimes you can still find a kind party. one final point: a dead show is PARTICIPATORY. the band and the audience feed off each other's energy. there are good nights and not so good nights. it is never exactly the same twice. it is a huge, ever-growing, pulsating brain that rules from the center of ...
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    You know, to sum it up, every time I think of a dead show, I just imagine hippys twirln and the eleven playin in the backround."You can never stop learning," Phatmoye
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    sparky colorful ball of anticipation
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    A dead show is pretty much like Christmas, that would be a good way of putting it."You can never stop learning," Phatmoye
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    Aww yeah Shoreline 89 my first Grateful Dead show. What a journey ever since! Shoreline 2009 will mark the 20 year anniversary of those shows. I am so excited that I will be there!! Thanks for sparking up those memories! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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    Hey now! Great topic! The best way that I've heard a Dead show described was when they interviewed people on the solstice FM broadcast from Shoreline in 89 (Great show, look it up!). Lots of folks had different things to say but they kind of summed it up with the last comment from a sister who said, with dead conviction in her voice, "GREAT MUSIC!!!" The Grateful Dead is an acquired taste. Think of things you love that you didn't even like at first. It kind of grows on you if it's your pint of brew. If not, well, leave it if you dare. With me, it was pure delight in the freedom of the music and the positivity of the space created to enjoy it. If you took it as a lifestyle then you were on a journey somewhere. Wherever you go, there you were -- for sure! I think members of the band described it like this: People come and go for shorter or longer periods of time and take from it what they will (very loose paraphrase there). Did you like the music? Did you like to dance, spin, swirl, dervish? Did you like to make new friends? Did you enjoy the variety of people? Did you enjoy the trip? Did you enjoy the travel when touring, every second of it? Did it keep you young? Did it stimulate new ideas and ways of doing things and looking at the world and your life? Did it make you kind? I think it is all those things that made a Dead show a Dead show. Love to know if anyone else agrees with me...
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    You all have been quite helpful to me on this topic. My way of explaining it is probably that you just have to go to understand it. Or lots of beautiful colors. Hee hee heePhatmoye
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    eat the crystal, touch the sound, it's calliopes and clowns, come and dig my earth, transitve nightfall of diamonds, all his children ran an hid, creepy, nothings for surtin it can always go wrong, sunshine and river , while the boy's sing round the fire! stranger ones have come by here, hey man dropped your sock, can you catch the rabbit, listen to the river roll ' roll, roll and flow and breath in the air maybe cheshire will take you to the other side, ishall be released from a bucket of what the hell was that? rrrrr lookin through a hole in the sky, uh O here comes suuuuuuuuuun shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine. give be Liberty or give me Dead, what the fuck are we watching for, you'll get your eye poked out, out to the ends of the mind. And shall "IT" never end, breathing Dragons in a rainbow of sound, is that really the time man, get rid of IT cause IT might just kill you, IT is uphill both ways, IF is the middle word of Life, and if maybe I had only had????????????????????, Charlie Chan WTF gotta say FUCK, in every windowpayne, raining again, come sit by my fire is always warm as are our hearts and, support wildlife everything you touch, is touched, if there is no pebble tossed or wind to blow than how do we Breath with knee's in the Breeze. the earth and sky be my mother and and al that is, is my brother, sun and showers, wind and sometimes don't say that word.......................... Be happy with what you have , because Death awaits you, and when you accept that you are alive forever. it
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    I would have to agree with Dedhed4ever which is the most concise way to say it, but that doesn't give those who genuinely want to know any info, and for the most part, we really can't explain it. It's like an ancient esoteric teaching, it's so abstract to the everyday mind that it can't be easily explained and thus comprehended. I once had a hallucination while I was inside a show and the "heat" from the boy's was intense. The only way that I could explain it was that I felt like I was IN a bowl of jello, and that jello around me was God, I was IN God. I was just browsing through on of those Grateful Dead books or almanacs, can't remember the title, but in one of the interviews the questioner offered a very viable explanation to "our" phenomenon....He made the point that this communal feeling we get by being around so many people that are striving for this kindness and peace that we so all want created...scientifically...the Alpha wave state. I think that what he is infering is that...with everything that went on...The Grateful Dead brought us closer to that vibration that is just a bit closer to God. With all Love, Light, and Laughter....CM
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By suggestion from phatmoye: "A lot of my friends and co-workers have never been to a fest or Grateful Dead show. I've tried to explain it to them but I'm at a loss of words. All I can do is smile, smile, smile and tell them that it's nothing but kindness. i'd love to get some feedback from some heads on explaining what to tell them."

The question seemed to strike a nerve in the tour topic, so we're giving it a home of its own!

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The worst thing I ever saw at a Dead show was at W. Palm Beach in '82. I was sitting in the 5th row before the show and people were still filing in when some "friend of the Devil" threw an empty half-pint bottle out of the stands and it hit a pretty young woman in the head. She was really freaking out and had blood streaming down her face. Her boyfriend did a good job of trying to calm her and getting her out of there to seek help. Besides that I'd never even seen so much as a fist-fight. There were easily over a million people at the 71 Grateful Dead shows I saw and for the most part it was a million acts of kindness that I remember.
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at Jerry shows at the Keystone I used to just leave my camera and ask the perfect stranger next to me to watch my stuff for a minute. Sometimes a completely different stranger would be there when I got back, but I don't think it entered anyone's head to rip me off. Ripping someone off at a Jerry show would just be an off-the-chart bad thing to do, or so we all seem to have thought.
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They were used to going to heavy metal shows, and told me they were used to most of the attendee's at shows to stay within their own circle of friends. They said they were used to seeing fights break out , and everyone wearing black clothes.We carpooled to the show and arrived 3 hours early. They were shocked at how warm the feelings were amongst the entire crowd. They were also completely surprised to find so many people who travelled across the country for the show they were about to see. So if I were to explain it to a newbie, I'd just tell them that it's not just the music you're there to see. They should expect the unexpected, and be ready to see a flea market with clothing-jewelry-smoking needs-bumper stickers-posters-etc.etc.etc. Lotsa love, and no hate!!
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All these stories and descriptions make me wish even more I could have seen it.
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The circus is in town....sort of...and we are the exhibits!!
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no explanation at all its simply magical
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When I was eight or so... in the late 80's... I was allowed to go out in the open arena. Dancing and running about, because there were such great people. I was out dancing and having fun then, the music ended, I was still playing/dancing as people were putting down their blankets. I moved to the other side of the stage to find my dad. A couple who had set up their blankets on the floor got very upset at me. Telling me I was being rude for stepping on their just laid down blankets. Because I had no idea what was going on they felt the need to scare me... As I stood there being berated by these jerks. I was slowly surrounded by a group of AMAZING people.. they explained that the need of a child to find their parent was much larger then the need to keep a 5*5 square of seating area. I felt so protected. So undeniably safe. I still remember that feeling of being hugged after feeling so scared. One woman came over and held my hand asking if I knew where my parents were. I said I did, and pulled her with me. I took her back stage, and introduced her to everyone I knew. I talked her up as the coolest woman of all time. I don't know what happened to her. I do know that I cannot explain how much I appreciate knowing how amazing it is to feel loved, supported, and protected as a small child. That is what I got from dead shows, a knowledge of a very large hug.
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The approach to a spring or running brook was the occasion for life and activity. ... Nor can you, who have never stood by a bubbling spring, in a strange, wild land, with the thought that it may be miles and miles to another drinking place, comprehend the satisfaction afforded by the full-mouthed swallows from its cooling wealth. George B. Currey, 1853, Oregon Trail
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So, you can't. You have to take them. Which I've done to my children and husband and brother and brother in law and nephew and friends and the response is always, "Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! Now I get it! Let's do it again!!" LOL!!
Now, with Jerry gone, we have to do the best we can to expose new peeps to the music and the vibe and the best shows that I've attended that help to bridge the gap, so to speak, are the Dead & Co. shows in the summer. Outside venues with large Shakedowns, in the East SPAC, Blossom, etc. tend to be best for impromptu villages. I've also taken children to Dark Star Orchestra which is a fantastic show and a good scene.
Dance on everyone!

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It sort of became the standard for me. Everybody said GD concerts were weird, but every time I went to see someone else, THAT was the show that seemed weird.

BTW, I just joined this forum about 2 days ago. I work in an VERY conservative profession, so I am remaining semi-anonymous.

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welcome anyway!
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Grateful Dead music is like faith in God;
For those who get it no explanation is needed, for those who don’t no explanation is possible ☮️