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    By suggestion from phatmoye: "A lot of my friends and co-workers have never been to a fest or Grateful Dead show. I've tried to explain it to them but I'm at a loss of words. All I can do is smile, smile, smile and tell them that it's nothing but kindness. i'd love to get some feedback from some heads on explaining what to tell them."

    The question seemed to strike a nerve in the tour topic, so we're giving it a home of its own!

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    I always said the circus is back in town. Now, not everyone loves the circus, but those who do, really love the circus.Peace
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    To paraphrase some dead guy: We came, we heard, we came again... we left It, but It did not leave us. "The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer." - Ken Kesey
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    How do you explain a dead show?
    I'm embarrassed to admit it took me awhile to get on the "bus" i was a head banger in the early 80's while a good portion of my friends were heads. They planned all there skool breaks to tour and I just did nt see what all the hype was about. Until the tour with csny i decided to go without a ticket. My friends said "just go check it out it wont cost u anything just hang in the lot and see the 2nd set 4 free when they opened the gates." My reply was "u guys will all be in there and i'll be by myself". They just laughed as if the joke was on me. It sure was, I was not by myself I was meeting my family that whole day. I ate drank smoked and tripped until my heart and head were full of the luv as I never new was possible.I had one of the best days of my life it ranks up there with getting my cherry popped; no it wasnt even close the dead show was a whole day of peace & luv getting my cherry popped was 3 pumps and a squirt!! The luv that was given to me by strangers can never be compared to . Now 20 +yrs later I've gone to so many dead related shows they all blend into a hodge podge of True Luv and happiness that only compares to dancing with my soulmate Sarah'bel at a Dead show. Cant wait to shake my bones with 'bel in Albany & Bflo.Atheas daddy!!!
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    Keep em coming friends.Phatmoye SO THE KIDS THEY DANCE AND SHAKE THEIR BONES!
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    PERFECTO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love how you said that!Any kind of missionizing campaign is dangerous and yukky-including an "everybody needs to be a Deadhead" one. Exposure and explanation one thing, fanatacism something else all together. ********************************** It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
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    I've got a friend
    Whom I've been trying to turn onto the Dead for 34 yrs (and counting). All of my persuasion has gotten me nowhere. I love him, but it just ain't going to happen. Not suprisingly, this ongoing 30+ year discussion has turned into a running joke with us. We do have a Grateful Dead connection that we share and have fond memories of. If I cue up "Sugaree" in his presence (one song that he seems to like), he'll immediately smile, or start laughing -- usually laughing. It isn't what I was looking for, but it's still something good...
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    you can't
    it is something that you need to experience, and my experiences were all in Europe so are different to people from the states - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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    For those who understand, there's no need for explanation,For those who don't understand, there IS NO explanation. Peace ya'll and see ya out there.
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    Welcome Thunderrainbow
    You sure got a way with words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep em coming. ((HUGS)) Johnman! How bout a dead show is better even than a great piece of cake? ********************************* It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
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    it's F.M., man
    freakin' magic!!............a big, cracklin' warm and fuzzy ball of energy, draped in tie dye and covered with a smile!!
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By suggestion from phatmoye: "A lot of my friends and co-workers have never been to a fest or Grateful Dead show. I've tried to explain it to them but I'm at a loss of words. All I can do is smile, smile, smile and tell them that it's nothing but kindness. i'd love to get some feedback from some heads on explaining what to tell them."

The question seemed to strike a nerve in the tour topic, so we're giving it a home of its own!

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The worst thing I ever saw at a Dead show was at W. Palm Beach in '82. I was sitting in the 5th row before the show and people were still filing in when some "friend of the Devil" threw an empty half-pint bottle out of the stands and it hit a pretty young woman in the head. She was really freaking out and had blood streaming down her face. Her boyfriend did a good job of trying to calm her and getting her out of there to seek help. Besides that I'd never even seen so much as a fist-fight. There were easily over a million people at the 71 Grateful Dead shows I saw and for the most part it was a million acts of kindness that I remember.
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at Jerry shows at the Keystone I used to just leave my camera and ask the perfect stranger next to me to watch my stuff for a minute. Sometimes a completely different stranger would be there when I got back, but I don't think it entered anyone's head to rip me off. Ripping someone off at a Jerry show would just be an off-the-chart bad thing to do, or so we all seem to have thought.
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They were used to going to heavy metal shows, and told me they were used to most of the attendee's at shows to stay within their own circle of friends. They said they were used to seeing fights break out , and everyone wearing black clothes.We carpooled to the show and arrived 3 hours early. They were shocked at how warm the feelings were amongst the entire crowd. They were also completely surprised to find so many people who travelled across the country for the show they were about to see. So if I were to explain it to a newbie, I'd just tell them that it's not just the music you're there to see. They should expect the unexpected, and be ready to see a flea market with clothing-jewelry-smoking needs-bumper stickers-posters-etc.etc.etc. Lotsa love, and no hate!!
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All these stories and descriptions make me wish even more I could have seen it.
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The circus is in town....sort of...and we are the exhibits!!
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no explanation at all its simply magical
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When I was eight or so... in the late 80's... I was allowed to go out in the open arena. Dancing and running about, because there were such great people. I was out dancing and having fun then, the music ended, I was still playing/dancing as people were putting down their blankets. I moved to the other side of the stage to find my dad. A couple who had set up their blankets on the floor got very upset at me. Telling me I was being rude for stepping on their just laid down blankets. Because I had no idea what was going on they felt the need to scare me... As I stood there being berated by these jerks. I was slowly surrounded by a group of AMAZING people.. they explained that the need of a child to find their parent was much larger then the need to keep a 5*5 square of seating area. I felt so protected. So undeniably safe. I still remember that feeling of being hugged after feeling so scared. One woman came over and held my hand asking if I knew where my parents were. I said I did, and pulled her with me. I took her back stage, and introduced her to everyone I knew. I talked her up as the coolest woman of all time. I don't know what happened to her. I do know that I cannot explain how much I appreciate knowing how amazing it is to feel loved, supported, and protected as a small child. That is what I got from dead shows, a knowledge of a very large hug.
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The approach to a spring or running brook was the occasion for life and activity. ... Nor can you, who have never stood by a bubbling spring, in a strange, wild land, with the thought that it may be miles and miles to another drinking place, comprehend the satisfaction afforded by the full-mouthed swallows from its cooling wealth. George B. Currey, 1853, Oregon Trail
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So, you can't. You have to take them. Which I've done to my children and husband and brother and brother in law and nephew and friends and the response is always, "Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! Now I get it! Let's do it again!!" LOL!!
Now, with Jerry gone, we have to do the best we can to expose new peeps to the music and the vibe and the best shows that I've attended that help to bridge the gap, so to speak, are the Dead & Co. shows in the summer. Outside venues with large Shakedowns, in the East SPAC, Blossom, etc. tend to be best for impromptu villages. I've also taken children to Dark Star Orchestra which is a fantastic show and a good scene.
Dance on everyone!

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It sort of became the standard for me. Everybody said GD concerts were weird, but every time I went to see someone else, THAT was the show that seemed weird.

BTW, I just joined this forum about 2 days ago. I work in an VERY conservative profession, so I am remaining semi-anonymous.

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welcome anyway!
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Grateful Dead music is like faith in God;
For those who get it no explanation is needed, for those who don’t no explanation is possible ☮️