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TigerLilly's picture
Joined: Jul 2 2007
Uncle John Gonzo!

Agree with you on that Docks. And thanks also! Try to post there now and then because...
yeah well nevermind. As Lamagonzo also said, I struggle with myself over the site and the scene; but keep coming back on a mission of sorts.
By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean.
Mark Twain

lamagonzo (not verified)
Thanks Docks

Sound like a plan.

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Joined: Jun 19 2007

I am one who will truly miss your words here at My life has gotten so busy that I rarely login here but I do look thru the posts 2 or 3 times a week and your voice informs and reminds me to be focused toward our collective wellbeing. You and Tiger Lily in the "trouble ahead, trouble behind" forum -- I wish to thank you and her for the postings. I kind of grew up at the Fillmore, Winterland, and the Avalon. Many bands reflected the times but a hush would come over the hall with the first notes of Morning Dew and we all would ponder with them the seriousness of our time. And our purposes in it. Come hear Uncle John's Band, indeed. Your voice on this site is an Uncle John voice. I am also planning to see the movie you mentioned just recently. If you must go, don't go far or at least open that good old picture album now and again. Peace & Music

gratefaldean's picture
Joined: Jun 22 2007

I dropped out of the scene in the late '80s because there was so much other stuff that I was into, and the Dead started seeming irrelevant to me. Jerry's death kind of jolted me back to reality in a way, and by the time the first Other Ones tour came around in '98 I was ready to climb back onto the bus -- it was actually a lot more complicated situation than that, things happening in my life that I won't get into here, so it wasn't exactly like the light switch just turned back on...but it was something like that.

There still IS so much other stuff that I'm into (which is one reason why I delight in posting non-Dead tidbits on the "Listening to Now" thread), and it's hard to tell how much being back has to do with aging and boomer nostalgia, and how much is just reinvigorated love of the music of my younger days--with the associated feeling that I'm playing catch-up on something I regret having missed and can never truly recapture.

At this point, I don't care why, I'm just back enjoying the ride. It could all end tomorrow, but I hope that it doesn't.

So I know where you are coming from, I think. But hang in, it's a plus-plus experience having you around these parts.

Joined: Aug 17 2010
Iits not over till we say

It aint over for me till i pop my cloggs jerrys death hit me hard but he left us with so much music there must be nearly 3000 shows in the archives some grate some not so.I got on the bus about 30 years ago via deadset and when jerry hits that solo in candyman etc my insides still explode and a big smile appears on my face.Ok further, the music is not the same no where near but the bus is still running please dont get off!!!!!!!!!!!


lamagonzo (not verified)
I find myself wondering the same thing...

...after posting on this site for 2+ years. The Grateful Dead have indeed gone away but there is ever so much music and fun and news and whatever else is going on -- like 9k kazoo players at a Giants game, Furthur in the Park and Rhythm Devils on tour with Keller. I mean, there is A LOT to keep up with. That is not even mentioning keeping up with Rhino farts on the Kalahari, making sure you order in time to get your bonus disc.

Having said that, I do wonder sometimes if I'm too much involved in a scene that went way sideways in about 1993 and ended, tragically, in 1995. I always feel it is better to look forward than backward but I do enjoy reliving really fun times in the past. In some ways hanging around this site is like looking into an old photo album.

It is also fascinating to catch up with old tour buddies and see where they are at now and make some new friends when you can. So that is what it's all about for me. Still, I'm wondering how much longer I can hang on as a regular. Definitely feel my days are numbered here as there are so many new people and places to be discovered.

Joined: Aug 26 2010
living in the past

Look to 1965-66 for the real center of gravity that keeps tugging at us 40 years later.
Legal, high quality LSD hit the streets of Palo Alto and surrounding CA in quantities that are unimaginable by today's standards.
What happened?
People put down their weapons, looked into each other's eyes, picked up instruments and paint and fabric and clay and said "No!," to the politicians, armies, and "straight society."
Jerry was among those who took it upon themselves to preach this new gospel, and rode that wave of love until his death.
It helped that he was an unbelievable musician, but the music, the band, the tours and parking lots were about more than that. That stuff was just the means by which we could still reach out and touch that magical time, break off a piece and infuse ourselves with it.
I often temporarily forget that message, in this age of manipulation and exploitation, but it always returns, and no matter where life takes me, no matter what happens, I always find that sly grin, those happy memories, and a magical inner life untouched by profit, war, hatred, neglect, disease, and poverty.
For anyone who can turn their back on that, I feel for you and hope you get there one day. There's more than enough room for all of us.
I think I'll go up on a mountain, I'll fling myself off into space
I'm not doing it because I'm desperate, I'm just trying to save some space...

Joined: Jan 18 2009

It's better to have loved and lost-------than never to have loved at all!

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Joined: Jun 8 2007
My wife is not on the bus with me, never was/never will be

What I get from her is: "why do you have so many copies of the same all sounds the same!".

What she doesn't understand is that so many of the live recordings I have from them, (some are boots; some are ligit.), are from shows that I actually attended.

I have told her many times that they never did the same song exactly the same, so each song/jam is unique within themselves.
There is nothing as boring as seeing a band who performs E-X-A-C-T-L-Y the same upon each performance. The Grateful Dead have been on a wonderful trip for several decades, when they perform for us, they invite us on for the ride.

It's beautiful, they're beautiful. Always were & always will be.

Joined: Jun 14 2007
Life after Dead?

Of course! the simple answer.
Life is a continuum, always evolving, ever changing....all things are connected (wise man once said).

Grateful Dead have been entwined in my life as far back as I can remember (thanks to the influence of some older brothers). The bus kept coming by until I got on. By then Pigpen & Keith were gone. Never got to as many shows as I wanted to but grateful for the ones I did. Have been to some Furthur shows, Other Ones, Ratdog, and most recently The Dead in Chicago. Not a day goes by I don't miss the space Jerry & the Dead created for us to frolic in and the wondrous discoveries of youth made there. I'm older now but the learning and changing never stops.

My point being.....
There is no going back. Life moves ever onward (until it doesn't). The Dead with Jerry was a very special moment in time that can't be duplicated. All we really have is this moment in the here & now. So.....we make the most of this here & now. This (older) Head has been pleasantly surprised at times by moments of magic at post-Jerry shows and by other bands in other places. Is it the same as when Jerry was around? Of course not. No more than yesterday can be the same as today.
We all have the capacity to create magic. See the beauty that surrounds us.

~Sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
(good words to live by)

"When in doubt, open up and give your love"
~Spanish Bert



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