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nice hippy guy...

The New Orleans show has been vined and possibly the Fillmore show, not sure about St Louis, i have the shows, if interest i will put together a vine from this period

Bob

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REQUEST 4/4/93

I know this is the Vine thread, but I am looking for the SB of the Sunday Nassau show that is streaming at the archive. Does anyone have it? I can B & P or have TONS of GD and other bands to trade

Ross

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nice hippy guy...

not having heard of Red Robin/Parrot before, I did a little googling, and let's just say I have the sense that this is such a contentious legal nightmare at the present time that I don't want to go there.

The Vineyard exists and survives because we don't vine commercial releases. Bootleg commercial releases add a layer of legal murk, but I don't want to jeopardize our little vining scene by setting this one up.

I cordially invite the more knowledgeable to point out possibly vineable sources for the same material.

Thanks for understanding.

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Thanks Tommo

I appreciate the explanation...makes more sense now. To be honest, I've never had a problem downloading from archive.org...shows usually take 10-15 mins, some as fast as 3-4.

Spring Ratdog shows this year have been lacking on archive.org and sugarmegs.

Trying to figure out how I can convert .flac, .shn and .wma files to .mp3 just so i can burn them and add to my archive.

Thanks again for the help

..even a blind man knows when the sun is shinin'...you can feel it!..

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Best Damn Music In The World Vine

2 cds released by Red Robin/Parrot records. The songs are taken from 3 1970 shows. Most of the Songs are incomplete but there are 2 hours of music here. Its pretty cool and a rare collection. Let me know if anyone is interested.

Disc One Fillmore East 2/11/70 with Greg & Duane Allman & Peter Green 1.Dark Star 2.Alhambra 3.Turn on Your Lovelight St. Louis Fox Theatre 2/2/70 4.Cumberland Blues 5.Dark Star

Disc Two 1.St. Stephen/Mason's Children The Warehouse, New Orleans 2/1/70 with Fleetwood Mac 2.That's it For The Other One 3.Turn on Your Lovelight

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Oops again!

I can spell "graciously" too if I try hard enough! -Tommo

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Oops!

I actually know how to spell "dial"- I was typing too fast! -Tommo

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Hey NYsteve

1. Last I heard, archive.org had suspended uploading of Dead shows, but I'm not sure if the ban is still on. 2. mp3 is a convenience format, not a high fidelity format, and is not used when sound quality is valued. I use mp3 for my Old Time Radio collection, but that's mostly spoken-word material recorded in the 30's and 40's (BTW, archive.org has a fantastic assortment of public-domain OTR shows available for free download). mp3 sacrifices some of the file's information in favor of maximum compression, and is therefore referred to as a "Lossy" format, whereas FLAC (short for "Free Lossless Audio Codec") and SHN (which I believe is short for "Shorten") are lossless compression formats, which are capable of restoring exact copies of the original file when decompressed. The down side is that they require much larger files, which puts them out of reach of dail-up users, rendering mp3 the only workable alternative over dail-up. Even then, downloading a whole show is quite a chore. I downloaded a whole show on mp3 from archive.org a few years ago, and it took me several hours a night over 3 or 4 nights to get it all, and after all that you can hear "swishing" all the way through it, which is an artifact of the mp3 compression. You should check out The Vineyard on this site, where The Rhinos have graciuosly allowed show trading by mail- slow but good! -Tommo

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Format Type

Been around the scene since 1980, goin' to shows and from 83 on touring and taping. Now about 5 Phil/Ratdog shows a year....now collecting/trading cd's. 2 questions:

1. Why are some people reluctant to post shows on archive.org?

2. Why does it seems more shows around are being uploaded to sites in .flac instead of .mp3?

Thanks! Steve

..even a blind man knows when the sun is shinin'...you can feel it!..

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Orlando 1991 vine ?

The only Dead shows my wife got to see ,, I would love to be able to find a clean sounding copy`s or vine of these 3 shows 4-7-91 , 4-8-91 , 4-9-91 . Can anyone help me ? Thank you ,, Have a Grate Day !! Peace ....

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