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Tapes to CD's

I've enjoyed reading this thread - thought I'd put in my two cents. In order to maintain the best sound quality with cassette to CD transfer it is really best to just use audio equpiment - forget about a computer.
Don't get me wrong, I love computers and am very actively taking part in the "new" digital age of music sharing, but sometimes the old trusty gear is still the best way to go. Going directly from a tape deck into a standalone CD burner keeps the sound "pure." That is, no file conversions, downsampling, dithering, etc. that you may get when using a computer. I have no doubt that making tape to CD transfers can be accomplished successfully with a computer - it just gets complicated with all the software choices, file type choices, compression choices, etc. Using good ole audio equipment is just more straightforward and easier for this old school trader.
I read that some of you are putting an EQ between your tape deck and standalone CD burner. I've often considered doing that myself, but have always chosen just to leave the cassette source unaltered, transfer it to CD, and then EQ it while I listen.
I do, however do one thing a little differently than the other folks who have posted here. Rather than go directly from cassette to CD, I record to DAT first. Here's my setup:

Nakamichi DR-3 cassette deck > Tascam DA-40 DAT deck > Sony CDR-W33 standalone CD burner

There are two reasons why I make the analog to digital conversion via DAT rather than CD. 1)As mentioned in previous posts, when burning directly to CD, you have to push a button on the fly to insert track start ID's. You can't just burn the whole CD, then go back and add the start ID's later. Because DAT is a magnetic tape media, rather than optical, it is totally editable after the recording process. I just hit play on the Nak, record on the DAT, and let 'er go. Then, when the recording's done, I can go back later and write the start ID's exactly where I want them. Much easier to get the start ID's in just the right spot for things like Alligator > Caution > Feedback, than doing it on the fly. 2) The A/D converters in my Tascam DA-40 are superior to the ones in my Sony CDR-W33.
The results I get with this setup are excellent. I use DAT to record vinyl to CD also with excellent results.
That's more than enough of my rambling, for now - I just love talking about this stuff!

On a side note . . . anyone still trading DAT's. If so, let me know . . .

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silence between tracks

I Use A Software Program That Captures Live Streams And Converts To MP3's. The Problem I Am Having Is The Music Cut's Off When Changing Tracks. As You Know Alot Of Song's Turn Into Other Song's IE:Cryptical>The Other One>Cryptical. I Get Silence When The Seperated Tracks Change. Is There Software To Clean It Up To Make A Contius Flow Like A Live Store Bought Album?

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Transferring tapes to CD

I don't know what kind of analogue/digital converter this unit uses, and the owner's manual doesn't go into that aspect. As for the recording files, the unit records actual audio files in the Red Book standard. In other words, the HHB 830 creates digital audio files that are the same as those on a manufactured CD. They are not wave, mp3, FLAC, shn or ape files.
Some additional information for those who may be interested is that you can record from LPs and DAT sources. In addition to the RCA jacks, the unit has digital coaxial and optical inputs for recording from digital sources. It also has a built-in sampling rate converter, which allows it to automatically adjust to the digital source, from 32kHz to 48kHz. It will also allow you to copy 44.1kHz DTS and HDCD discs. I have copied some of my LPs to CD-R using this recorder, and some of them sound better than the commercial CD releases. It will accept all recordable CD formats (CD-R, CD-RW, and Audio CD-R), so you can use the same discs you use when burning via your computer.

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Transferring tapes to CD's

...shall we go, you and I while we can...

I'm that old,too!! do you know the process by which this happens? I mean what kind of analogue/digital converter there is in that machine and what kind of files it makes to load onto the disc? Just curious...

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Transferring cassettes to CD

I have been transferring my old cassettes and reels (yep, I'm THAT old!) for a couple of years now. It's a time-consuming process, to be sure, but the results are worth it. I have found that most of the programs and devices that connect from your tape deck directly to your computer result in CDs of considerably lesser quality that your original tapes. I am using an HHB 830 "Burn It" CD recorder that hooks up to my stereo system just like a tape deck. It works just like a tape deck, too, except you record to CD-Rs instead of tapes. It makes perfect copies. You can easily adjust levels and balance, and it has an adjustable fader feature for smoothing out the beginning and/or end of your recordings. Hook the HHB up to your tape jacks, and the tape deck to an AUX input, and record from the tape deck to the CD recorder just like you recorded cassettes in the old days. You can insert track indexes as you go by pushing one button. When you're done, you push 2 buttons, the disc is finalized in about 2 minutes, and you can play it on just about any CD player. This is a professional recorder, and is used by lots of musicians to make their own demo CDs. I saw a picture of Danny Elfman (composer of music for "The Simpsons" and many other movies and TV shows) in a magazine interview, and he had one of these units in his equipment rack in his own studio. I paid about $500 for mine at Sam Ash Music, and they have stores all over the country, or you can order online. It's the best 500 bucks I've spent on recording gear in a long time.

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Sony Beta Max Tapes

I have several east coast shows recorder on a converted Sony Beta machine (it was a better format than VHS) Problem is it was stolen. I have tape and no way to play them .
Question is does anyone still have one they can lend, rent or sell?
The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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Sony Beta Max Tapes

I recorded a whole bunch of shows on a converted sony beta max, strictly audio only.( Beta was the truly better format). There were lots of folks doing this back in the day.
Problem is my converted Sony machine was stolen.
Is there any one out there or FURTHER OUT THERE that still has a Beta Audio machine that they are willing to ;give, lend or rent?
The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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there are no lame questions!

...shall we go, you and I while we can...

...except the unasked ones.The bottom line is you have to open a single port in a universe that involves 60,000 to 80,000 of them. You are probably using Make Firewall Exceptions in your XP security center already. All that a file sharing system does is open 1 port, and utorrent can randomize that port daily, so it's always different, it can also encrypt incoming data, so no one knows what your sharing (called privacy). In two years of doing this, I've never run into a hacking problem myself, nor have I ever heard of one.

I was the one who described it as "good manners". Deadheads should love this... you share back to a "ratio" of 1, meaning you give back as much as you took to others.

BTW, I think "brain freeze" on this happens to a lot of us. DON"T FREAK OUT...remember a time when you learned something a little complex that really added to your enjoyment? Maybe you have to go back a ways, but you did it and you felt great about it! I got a computer with a comcast connection,and causually playing with it, I had the basics down in a month.It was the first time I ever used a computer for anything except word processing, and I'm no genius in this department!

One more thing, this IS NOT ILLEGAL...it involves the sharing of uncoprighted material for personal enjoyment and not for sale. In fact, in the torrent commmunity, the ethic is to ALWAYS buy the copyrighted version of anything that torrented that the band releases.It's just a great way to get shows without dealing with lousy copies, the vagueries of the U.S. Mail,ect.

Okay, that's more than you asked,Marye...if you want to check it out, I'm happy to help you get started.

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transfer tapes to wav files with $99 unit!

Try this unit....either phono records or tapes...right into your USB port....been using one for about a year for both records and tapes and it performs beautifully....see it here:

http://www.mcminone.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=MCMProducts&category%5Fname=3829812&product%5Fid=555%2D2717

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paisley

this is really a lame question, as I've only looked at the sites in question briefly before going into brain freeze, but responding to something somebody said way up the thread--

Do bittorrent and the other filesharing sites basically require you to leave an open connection and let people download files from your local machine? Somebody described this as "good manners" and it strikes me as the security problem from hell. But then I'm not running a server.

Please clarify, I'm cluless. Thanks!

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