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    Good Morning Little Schoolgirl
    The things that pop into your head at times: listening to Bob sing this one in Cary last week, my first thought was a common lament for me -- wishing that I'd had a chance to see Pigpen just once. But as Bobby was singing the "I'm a schoolboy too" lines, I started laughing, as the idea that ANYONE is going to mistake Weir for a schoolboy nowadays is just plain comical. I mentioned it to the guy standing next to me, who said, "Well, maybe like a non-traditional college student, ya think?" So we both riffed back to the song: "Tell your momma and your papa, I'm a non-traditional schoolboy too." Smile, smile, smile... And if the show proved nothing else to me: Jeff Chimenti is on fire, and my oh my do those harmony vox sound absolutely lush! UJB, Here Comes Sunshine, vocally have never sounded better to me...a case of the band more than living up to the source material.
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    I saw them at Simpsonville last year and at Wanee this year. Those shows were great. Caught the Cary show and it was a little weak overall. Of course there were some good sparks but on the whole it was a bit flat. Everyone seemed tired.
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    I'm listening to 1970-03-21 right now. Way more fun than last night in Cary NC. They played real good. I was real bored. Jazzy jams are great and I love that to a point. WTF look at the closing songs and encore selection. How do you end a concert with "the days in-between" ? Oh no, they warmed up to it with that smoker, "a foolish heart" and encored with, Box of Rain. I love Furthur. If I encountered many shows like i did last night in Cary, NC, I would just stop going. This 1970 show has so much soul and rock n' roll that I'm uplifted. Last night was a flat tire just lookin' for the offramp. PS: great crowd, way fun
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    pretty great setlist!
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    FURTHUR was FANTASTIC!Caught the Philly Show and it was a Rockin' Time! I find it amazing, the diligent care each song finds in the hands of these awesome musicians. Hearing Phil and Bob masterfully drive the music into the capable hands of band-> it's remarkable. The moments they let go to let them ride musical heights then jump back in like a whirl wind and put in all back into context was incredible, to me. The crowd was a great heart of gold band, it reached a favorite choir status several times; and wow it was special to say the least! Philly was present and accounted for! It was so hot and even so they kept on dancing. If there were a party to be at; the Mann Center was IT on 7-7-2012! Thank you for a real good time! I do believe there is more in store, xo! I love this band. Way to go! May the road rise to meet you--------- and the wind be always at your backs. All the best wishes are heading your way--- Love to You, All...ALL! Rock ON! I Love You oh but Jesus Loves You the Best! Set List 7/7/2012 FURTHUR Set 1 Truckin'> Nobody's Fault but Mine Fire on the Mountain> Cassidy Peggy O Tennessee Jed My Brother Esau Deal Set 2 China Cat Sunflower> I Know You Rider> Space> Dark Star> (v1) Jam> Dark Star> (v2) Caution Don't Step on the Tracks Saint Stephen Unbroken Chain Dear Prudence The Wheel> GDTRFB> We Bid You Goodnight Donor Rap E - One More Saturday Night
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    A hot (93 degrees) afternoon commenced at 3:30pm as about 1000 waiting people piled into the parking lot. Shakedown was in full growl in the dusty, unpaved parking lots in about fifteen minutes. Numerous vendors were happy, if not exactly busy despite the size of the crowd. There was very little hassle from McCoy Stadium security. The attitude was whimsical: "This is what it is these days, about 4 hours before the show and about a half hour after." Attitudes were as sunny as the sky as many old friends met up after the journey to the venerable triple A minor league baseball park. Furthur came out and did a sound check at about 4:30. Amazing how they can just launch into a jam at will... The show was crowded, though not sold out. The stadium holds 10,000 and the grandstand was about half filled with the entire outfield almost packed from wall to wall for the general admission show with the band's stage set up in deep center field. If the paid attendance wasn't 10k it was damn near close for the GA event. Temps. came down significantly after twilight and settled into the high 70s for the rest of the show, with a decent breeze. The boys came out at 7:15pm and launched into a nice Dancin' that segued cleverly into a spry Shakedown that was tasty and morphed into Jack Straw. All in all a nice way to open the tour. Bob did a nice job on BT Wind. JK shined on Reuben & Cherise. The Last Time had a nice beat to it reminiscent of All Over Now. 70 minutes of music for the 1st set ended with a passable Casey Jones that had all the flourishes but not the insanely fast ending Furthur is known for, though the pace did pick up. The second set set was tasty with a Golden Road opener. That's It>Other One>That's It was very nice. Phil still gives a hint of the old days when he revs it up for the O1 intro. Bob throws a nice SOTM ballad and then Furthur does a great job of jamming Hey Pocky Way which to my ears was the highlight of the second set. Uncle John's Band was a sweet ending to the first show on the tour. 2nd set timed in at 90 minutes. The shows are 20-30 minutes shorter but it seemed to be about just right on this mid-summer eve. I had a great time seeing old friends drop in from out of the woodwork and hanging with "T-Shirt Tommy" who was hawking beer and soda and water and woman's t-shirts under a canopy. It is not the same as a Grateful Dead show. Nothing ever can be, but it definitely has all the elements of "Grateful Dead Liite" and you have to love the band for that.
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    great report!
    sounds like a lovely time.
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    I feel now, more than ever, after reading about how Bralove, by Jerry's order, collared Welnick by not allowing him to have the instrument of his choice on tour that Bob & Phil have collared John Kadlicek. Not by not allowing him to have the guitar of his choice, but by making him play a subservient role to them in the band. They will not allow him to get in front of them in any meaningful way with creative soloing. JK is more than capable, as he showed in the first dozen or so shows after Furthur kicked off. I blame Bob more than anybody for this, as he seems to have control of things on stage. But, fairly, Jerry set the precedent with Welnick. It seems to be a highly personal thing. It's not necessarily that you have to preserve a memory. I think a commitment to excellence in the genre of music you are playing is more important than building memorial shrines. I certainly feel that way as a ticket holder. Whatever, they certainly have the right to do what they want and I have the right to choose if I will go to a show. I'll do one more this summer and then done. I think what Bill & Micky are doing with disposable line-ups is more honorable and transparent than the kind of aping Furthur is doing. It's just sad. They have all the machinery there to give us a fantastically good time.
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    the best comment ever!Are you on the Furthur forum? Furthur.net Thanks again. very nice
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    Is there a shakedown street near the Beacon? I remember at the MSG shows they were in the Parking Garages, anyone see anything?
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"get ready, get set, go furthur If the shows are less crowded and the people less jaded I know I'm going to have a great time in these venues where I've left footprints. Some times popularity kills the x-factor." I've seen a slew of Furthur shows now and I'm ready to say that most deadheads are on board with Furthur and that there will be increased popularity on the upcoming eastern tour in Nov. I don't even mean a lot of sell-outs at the venues, just more people, more busses, more dead-like atmosphere (back in Terrapin for good or ill again). It's the people going to the shows and their interaction with the band that makes the music so juicy and danceable. You may not like Bob and Phil singing certain songs and you may believe that they have too much of a leash on JK but you have to admit this band is dripping psychedelia on a very good night. And there are consistently more very good nights. It is hard to believe Phil is keeping up to the end on most evenings, maybe even better than Bob. I know I'm going to get criticized (even saying Jer-bear missing is not the same class) but Furthur after two years is capable of stealing the Greatful Dead's thunder for any show post-Hornsby on a given night, with a very few rare exceptions such as Chapel Hill. I know I'm going out on a limb here I never thought I would. I hope all you older deadheads 55-75 can hang up your smart phones for a few hours and have a good old-fashioned party with Furthut this fall. I guarantee that you are going to like a lot of the people you meet at shows and you know how much that adds to the experience. Furthur-on you grizzled veteran alumnai with you 40 year grsdustion wings & rings! (And give us your review -- we want to hear if we're in the minority)
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Lamagonzo, they are flat out good. They could burn the building down anytime they wanted. Just like the GOGD. They are seriously good and I am enjoying these Furthur shows as much as any Dead show I ever saw. In 1971 I really missed the Dead of 1968, but they were gone and they weren't comin' back. Look what we were left with. I noticed the silver haired matron next to me, a contemporary unfortunately, using her smartphone to record the set list. Brilliant! Doubt I'll do that. I'll just wait for someone else to post it :-). We are so damn lucky to have these days......
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I'd rather have someone next to me quietly messing around on their phone than sitting in my lap, stepping on my feet or flat out staggering stumbling and falling into me.
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Sorry if I seem reactionary about the cell phones. Personal point with me, I noticed at Red Rocks there is enough room for a sold out crowd except when seven guys descend on one person's place cause they "know" their friend. Then all that stuff you talk about happens. It's not the background noise of a cell phone that bothers me, rather the inattention to the event and the people surrounding you. Hell, maybe I'm in the minority about that now, too. I'm such a Luddite.
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I am totally with you on the cell phone biz. And I admit I am a luddite as well. All the people on their phones at Red Rocks (as well as the inside shows I have attended), are a distraction probably related to the phone's light and if the person is trying to talk/yell into the phone. Due to my own reverance for the music as well aspaying big bucks to see/listen it is impossible for me to relate to those persons. And aslo having people fall into us, stagger and/or push/dance/shove does impede my enjoyment. All that happened at Red Rocks, but I will always be thankful for those shows. A real treat, despite unfortunate behavior. My two cents.
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About cell phone use, especially talking on the phone. The way to get around the crowding is to make the whole place reserved. I hate GA and really hate when half the place is GA and the other half is rsrvd. RR is unique in that there is room to move around but inevitably someone will walk down the aisle then stop and stand right in front of you and you get a perfect view of their ass or they are standing on your feet, then if they are fucked up it's even more of an "adventure". The shows I've been too that are all rsrvd don't get crowded like that but hey when it is all rsrvd you can't over sell the place which I imagine cuts into profits.
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Good ol' Uncle Jeff.I believe he speaks for all of us on this irritation. And the noise keeps increasing; ever tried to listen to Johnny Cash in a splendid old theatre with yuppies and industry try-hards clinking glasses and chattering like hollow birds? I have.
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One to mince words or suffer fools gladly or any other way. At a Neil Young show one time, Neil broke out his acoustic guitar and began to play solo, and some guys in back of me decided that since it was now quiet, it was a good time to start talking to each other. People shot them The Look to no avail, so after the first song I turned around and said, "Hey guys, great show!" And they agreed, we're all pals at this point. And then, "You know, I paid good my money to hear Neil sing, not to hear you guys talk, so could you either stop or take it somewhere else?" They left. They went away. I was really happy that they left (happier still that they didn't decide to punch me out for ragging at them), and a little sad that their conversation was more important than the music. I just don't get it sometimes. I recognized the then-new cell phone problem the first time I spotted someone talking on the phone while standing at a urinal (it was an Other Ones or Dead show, so it seemed real out-of-place to me)..."This call is so important that I'm talking to you while taking a whizz!" At least texting is silent, but the constant glow of the screens, especially at the edge of my peripheral vision, is nearly as distracting as talking. I don't get it, and I'm very content not to.
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Wow, I loved that Tweedy rant. Makes me want to check out some of his music. I saw Keith Jarrett give a similiar rant one time. God bless them both!
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Oh PalmerEldritch...BOY are you lucky if you're new to Jeff Tweedy and Wilco! You have a fantastic catalogue of music to check out. An wonderfully emotional band.Incredibly poignant songs; beautiful lyrics. experimental, richly textured Americana that the world is crying out for. Here are some examples: Enjoy!
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Thanks jonapi, definitely will check those out. Never heard of Wilco before, except now that I think of it- maybe in the "what are you listening to right now" forum from time to time...:)
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Jeff Tweedy's lyrics and the rest of the band's auditory additions are simply outstanding. Do yourself a favor (one kind favor?) and catch them live. You won't regret it. We are planning a run to KC to catch Wilco next month. These guys are a real treat!
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Thanks for the kind advice Oroboros. I just might!- I see Wilco's coming here to Los Angeles in January- and tix on sale tomorrow-
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Thanks for the kind advice Oroboros. I just might!- I see Wilco's coming here to Los Angeles in January- and tix on sale tomorrow-
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Yeah, i second that one Oroboros!Saw them in a wonderful old Art Deco cinema in East London called the Troxy; great venue. It was Jeff's birthday. You will love them live. Glenn Kotche and Nels Cline are fantastic musicians.
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If you get a chance to see the Neil Young tribute concert on TV or DVD, Wilco does a very-Wilco version of "Broken Arrow." I was speculating over what they may have played at the show -- my first knee-jerk was "Tonight's the Night," but then thought that emotionally it would be a tough one to play with Neil sitting there in the front row (though I've heard the Pretenders cover "Needle and the Damage Done" opening for Neil, so go figure). My next guess was "Sedan Delivery," but I was hoping for "Barstool Blues." "Broken Arrow" was a complete surprise to me, but then it seemed not surprising at all. Not for nothing, I've always thought that the closing guitar coda on the album version of "At Least that What She Said" sounded like it came right out of the Neil and Crazy Horse songbook (pre-Nels joining the band, which definitely changed the lead guitar dynamic). I do love Wilco. Furthur too, to get back on-topic.
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good man, gratefaldean!and yes, apologies for diverting the topic into wilco territory! back to furthur indeed. although personally, i just can't get it at the moment; lord knows i've tried. it actually really rankles that it isn't happening for me. which is strange, as i like to immerse myself in the flow and let my spirit take it where it may. it really shouldn't bother me yet it does. maybe it will come in time. presently, i'm left feeling apathetic. all good things in all good time, i guess.
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There are a lot of deadheads (still, a minority) who just can't dig Furthur. It just doesn't click for them. They can't stand different members singing other member's songs or a number of other things. I think it's, again, an acquired taste and not everybody is going to like it. It's just so cool that these guys who used to play for silver now play for life. Furthur has a foundation and is helping people through different grants. Mostly, at 52 years old, I am just so freaking happy that I have some music to love and dance to and a scene to gather around. I guess my problem is that my taste doesn't go beyond bluegrass and jam bands. At least you've got Wilco and probably a dozen others to keep you happy.
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hey gonzo,i agree that it's great they're out doing it; it's not that i don't like it or can't stand it or anything. just left with a feeling of "oh......." which as i mentioned, really frustrates me as i've never felt this way about any other Dead-related band: Phil & Friends i love, Ratdog, Scaring The Children, Rhythm Devils (with Tim Bluhm, not Keller), 7 Walkers (a massive fan); i've no qualms about John Kadlecik, no "it's just not Jerry" bullshit from me. what really irritates me is i don't know why it isn't happening for me. maybe it will grab me when i least expect it, when the set and setting materialises in it's own good time. doesn't help that i can't see them live of course; no home sound system will compensate for that experience. some kinda mental block maybe. oh well...
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I'm just going to jump back a bit on the thread, because I missed that part of the conversation. DH & I have both managed to avoid cellphones, and I'm pretty proud of this. But I've noticed that as time goes by, and I mention it to my ever-younger new hires and high school interns, they respond as though I've said, "Yep, no indoor plumbing for us, but that's OK, cause we have an outhouse and a pump right out in back of the house!"But I seriously believe that they taketh more than they giveth. When I'm walking to the subway at night, humming The Wheel or somesuch, the last thing in the world I want is for my pocketbook to start ringing. I would probably set it on fire and throw it in the street! If you are having an emergency, call 911, cause I still can't get home any faster than the train will get me there. If I am having an emergency, I've scoped out all the train stations I pass through, and they all have payphones, so I'm always sure to carry quarters. And at concerts??!! I've been at so many shows where I am experiencing something live and immediate and wonderful, and the people around me - all seem to be on the phone. Poor suckers.
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Indian Summer lures you in, and then blows your hair straight back with a hail of roses ~ Were they ever here at all ~
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I was generally fukin-gruven dancing and then Furthur goes into the Eleven and this beautiful hippy girl does this 10 minute "The Eleven" dance in front of me that would blow some dervish away. I got right to the vibe and we stomped on the terra. Hope to repeat in Manchester tomorrow. It may be awhile before I see'em again, if ever.
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Good show. I didn't do the list but it was a Playin'>Cold Rain opener and a wailing Uncle John's>Playin' to close with a Ripple encore. Sorry I missed you, Rosa. Hope you have a nice road trip!
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Hey Gonzo, sorry we didn't connect. I did try to call you a couple of times, but it was going to VM. We really enjoyed the show, lots of excellent tunes. We did connect with our nephew and his wife. It was their first Furthur show, and they loved it! We just arrived in Portland - tenth floor of HI by the Bay, excellent views!Lots of Deadheads about :) Going to venture forth in search of a lobster roll soon.
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Memories of my youth, Catholic youth that is. We had a state CYO convention in that Holiday Inn in the spring of 1973, we were the first people to stay in the hotel, kind of a pre-opening. They stacked us 5 to the room, we spent the second afternoon drinking (them were the days of the 18 yr old drinking age, so some of us were actually "legal" in the eyes of the law) and otherwise imbibing (not so legal) before the Big Dance. Two of my roomies got a bit too wasted and got kicked out of the convention that night. Ahhh, the good old daze...precursor of several other Portland Civic Center /HI adventures to follow. Have a great show!
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...varies by region. In East Coast Cities vs hard core counter-cultural areas the crowds are a lot younger. You don't see that big element of 45-60 along with the 60-75 subset that can make up more than 50% of the show. I think a lot of people in cow country really like that cowboy music.
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Grateful Dean, I'm actually learning to love the HI in Portland. We have always stayed at the Regency down in the Old Port, but the HI has a lot going for it. The view is amazing, the Dogfish restaurant nearby is really good, and if you're playing around with Priority Visa points, you just can't beat it! It looks like there are a couple more new bars/restaurants up in that area, but we haven't tried them yet. We really miss Katahdin - that was one of our all time favorites. DH bumped into them while staying at HI for a Phish show several years back. I've had some of the best meals of my life there. Sea scallops in a lobster-nectarine reduction on a bed of local mesclun - it doesn't get any better than that in my book!I was really hoping the Time & Temperature building would be flashing "Welcome Deadheads," but it still says "Call Joe." I wonder if I'll ever figure out what that's all about. Gonzo, I love the age diversity at the shows. I think it says something about this music that it can resonate with you whether you're 17 or 75. I don't think that too many bands could claim such a thing. Awesome setlist last night. They did what I think of as the beautiful psychedelic songs - Crazy Fingers - Chinacat - St Stephen! And I've been waiting for Touch of Gray for Years - it was the encore, and DH caught it on the second note. I thought he was teasing me, as in "don't you wish the encore would be?" But he was telling me that IT WAS! Yes! So do any of you guys know Amherst? I asked for restaurant suggestions on Furthur.net, and everyone is just laughing and sugesting McD's/bring a sandwich. Can it really be such a dining wasteland? And in a college town, no less? We had a pretty crappy dinner out there last year, but I was hoping we just made a poor choice.
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The Dove's Nest in Sunderland, or near there, 10 minutes from the show.. I also would have went to the Peace Pagoda in Leverett, 20 minutes from the show and nice view with a tranquil vibe. I love the Pioneer Valley!
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ANYBODY KNOW what radio station FM might carry tonight's Furthur show? Or you got a code for the TV feed? Would love to be there but can't justify it to my non-dead partner... Somebody mentioned gdradio.net might replay the show. Is this true? Anybody know anything about virtually being there tonight???
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That tapers will stream shows. I haven't participated in a live stream yet but the people over at furthur.net do that all the time, like every show. If I can find out more info I'll post here...
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...in streaming technology is called the "Couch Tour" and I'm told it's commercially available for $15 or $20 a show. You can have your own little rave right at home on the 80" plasma with speakers that will shake the neighbor's windows. I don't know who does this or how it works or if it's real. It could be as real as the rumor going around that these 250 Furthur shows are Bob & Phil's 401k.
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WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Oh and did I say YEHHHAWWWWWWWWWW. It's Peanut Butter Jelly Time! That being said, Gonzo and JStraw I'll post the link here the second I get it. If it is a private guy (sometimes but not always) I'll be sure to PM you. There are live streams, but usually there is about a set delay on several other non-private streams, so if you come home late or something.
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Yeah my Raiders are playing the Chargers tonight, so going over to best friends to watch. I'll make sure to bring the laptop so I can at least give you guys the link while watching.
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Not only did my Raiders win....but the MSG show was so I was told....EPIC. Looks good on paper and I hear the energy was en FUEGO. MSG 11/10/11 Set 1: Sugar Magnolia> Scarlet Begonias> Ramble On Rose ^ Tennessee Jed> # Uncle John's Band> % Eyes Of The World> # So Many Roads # Box Of Rain Set 2: % Shakedown Street> % The Other One> % St Stephen> Unbroken Chain> The Wheel...> Days Between> *# Keep Your Lamps Trimmed And Burning> % Fire On The Mountain> % Sunshine Daydream Donor rap encore: ^ Attics Of My Life ^ w/Larry Campbell guitar/vocals & Teresa Williams vocals # w/Larry Campbell fiddle % w/Larry Campbell guitar * w/Teresa Williams vocal
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I always love it when Larry and Teresa sit in. Anybody hear it? I always feel as if the boys just can't go wrong at MSG. Worth paying to buy the sbd?
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Be careful about buying the SBs from Furthur, unless you already have one and are satisfied with the quality. I have read lots of comments that most tapers are putting up much better copies on the usual sites.
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I have probably a half-dozen or so Furthur shows that I've purchased (part of the "support the band" thing for me), but I'm always torn between searching for a decent taper copy and rolling the dice by buying the sbd. What I should do is listen first, but somehow it never seems to work out that way. I either download the taper copy based on its reviews, or make the purchase...and then listen much later.
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How'd you like Tebow tramplin' over your Raiders last week? ;) I am glad they beat SD though, I want Rivers and SD to go away ... far away Thanks for the link man!
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WOhooooooooo....they looked great the next games!
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Here we go..... Time to go a little Furthur..... ~WRPS~ WRPS Can't wait. This should be a blast! Ok, got a day to prepare...shoes, pants, tix, shirt, and some warm blankies check. Cooler, liquor, love, kind brownie mix, eggs, veggies, and trail mix check. Down sleeping bag (old school coleman style), killer pillow and my Leatherman....check. 15 Lot presents, Music, Drumz, Lovelight...check. Ready. Tomorrow gonna make sure all music is loaded on laptop and head over to Ch1na's to get the bonfire pit, sleeping quarters, firewood stove all ready for the "pit stop" in between all the shows. Can't friggin wait for some Midwest lovin' bring on the Hippy Chicks and Kind Dance to the Golden Road of a 4-5 daze vacation. Next stop Rosemont, IL... Furthur: Phil Lesh & Bob Weir Friday, November 18, 2011 at 7:30 PM Allstate Arena Rosemont, Illinois Furthur: Phil Lesh & Bob Weir Saturday, November 19, 2011 at 7:30 PM Alliant Energy Center Coliseum Madison, Wisconsin Furthur: Phil Lesh & Bob Weir Sunday, November 20, 2011 at 7:30 PM Fabulous Fox Theatre - MO Saint Louis, Missouri Furthur: Phil Lesh & Bob Weir Monday, November 21, 2011 at 7:30 PM Murat Theatre at Old National Centre Indianapolis, Indiana Time for some Chicago Good lovin' Chicago Warm Up Movie from 2010
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Go for it Critter. Who knows if there will ever be another one (besides the New Year shows).
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Is saying a spring 2012 tour. I'd be up for a spring time Broomfield run again. Those 3 shows last year there were the best run of shows I've seen. They totally tore that building up!! But until then at least we have 3 nights in San Fran
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Last February (and the previous March for that matter!) The 1st Bank Center rocks!