Dr. T of the Art Punk Band
I am very interested in the answer to Brother Martin's question about covering songs. Some of you will recall, that in Sept. he asked:
"Here's the thing....the fat cats have been tightening up the intellectual property laws, and I can no longer just post Beatles songs without paying some agency in New York, even though I am not selling them, just making them available for free download...I have direct agreements with Richard Thompson and with Kate Wolf's estate that it's OK for me to post my covers of their songs....is this permission implicit with the Dead's work (along with taping), or do I need to ask somebody?"
I think the legal issues here are tricky. When bands sell albums with cover songs, part of the revenues go to the songwriter or company within the music industry that manages the property rights to the song. When bands perform perform cover songs at performances, or a song is played on the radio or Music services like Rhapsody or Napster, my understanding is that some revenues are provided to the songwriter as well--x cents per stream, download, etc. I think state licensing fees for musical performances might also provide revenues back to the song management company.
I think the taping at Dead shows, which the band actively encouraged--and helped endear them to many a listener--is different. They chose not to exercise their (legal and potentially enforceable) rights to uses of their performances in order to encourage music sharing. In doing so, they showed listeners how they valued community over profit. It is one reason they are legends in the music world.
Cover songs are numerous on Myspace and You Tube, I presume without any compensation to the songwriter--but I think a legal dispute is still on-going related to this, and who knows how this may turn out? Because of the uncertainty about this issue, my band decided to only place originals on our myspace page (myspace/artpunkband) or our You Tube page. But I would prefer to have a mix of originals and covers--we love playing Ripple, Sugaree, Uncle John's Band, US Blues, and Box of Rain, as well as a variety of Kinks, Beatles, Dylan, Neil Young covers.
Copyrights do expire, and songs eventually become part of the public domain--when anyone can use--but this takes a long time, especially in the United States. In Europe, I think, copyrights expire after 50 years, but in the US copyrights remain in effect for songs written in 1923 or later. There are some exceptions when songs are placed on the public domain by the writer---and there are websites where you can look up if a song is on the Public Domain. Two songs that we cover and have recorded versions of are Shady Grove and Lord Franklin (Pentangle): these songs, I believe, were written long before 1923 and are listed as public domain songs, so we would not have concerns about using these songs.
I think it is a shame that property rights on songs are enforced to this extent and remain in effect for so long. We had recorded a song "Electric Cottenfields" that was adapted from the old Ledbelly song (1941), but done with a rough electric guitar wall of sound effect. It was only about 40 seconds long--but we decided not to take a chance with copyright enfringement after seeing the copyright was still in effect. We took it off before the album was placed on line. We were going to put another song "Jet Plane Blues" on the album-- which is basically the old folk song done in a minor electric blues format--try it--you might find that this works well. But "Jet Plane" is still under copyright protection as well, so we did not include it.
The copyright issue was one reason we are now participating with the Creative Commons Music Community---the music site is Jamendo.com. All music placed on line is always 100% free for streaming or downloading, and all participating musicians agree to loosen the copyright restrictions over the music they place on line to encourage sharing. Others are always free to copy, share, or cover their music. You might find some interesting music on the Jamendo site to cover. So check it out. And if you do, please listen or download (always free) our new album, "Uncommon Creations", by "The Art Punk Band" on Jamendo.com. A direct link to our free album download on Jamendo is also on our myspace/artpunkband page. Hope to catch up with you there one of these days.
Dr. T of the Art Punk Band
While everyone in the band can pick up a guitar and play a bunch of Dead tunes...this band is more jazz/Tom Waits influenced than anything. We'd love for you to come give a listen!
we're going by the name The Monterey Jacks.
we're a three piece rock band from California.
when we play live, we've done a few of the Dead's tunes (close to the only covers we do), but rehearsing we're always playing their stuff. stella blue, the eleven (which we do with zeppelin's four sticks, which is in 5 and 6... which adds up to 11!) , loser, deal, mr charlie, the other one, etc... i bought this great fender amp and about a month later learned it was a newer model very similar to something Jerry Garcia used to use. so that's kept me in a good mood for a long time.
you can check us out on myspace HERE
Psilocybin Disciples aka bobdogkid will be jamming with the 5 string theory guitar band and The Qualia Foundation concerning Ineffable Sensory Experience
on Jan 4th, 2009 - in Woodstock, Ga.
-keep u posted on the “I got my banjo back tour—2009…” -
Atlanta get your groove on -put on your bell bottom pants and let's dance!!
Strange Trip is a 5 piece band out of Atlanta, GA. Thier influences include (but not limited to) the Grateful Dead, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Bob Marley, Santana, Phish and Ratdog. Add a little splash of Southern rock and a few drops of country and you've got Strange Trip.
Strange Trip is comprised of veteran rhythm guitarist Allen Peacock (Blue Rufus, Rainbow Zen), bassist Ken Dunn (Simply Southern), guitarist Ryan Kumar, up and coming vocalist Jessica Stanley and drummer Danny Waller (Simply Southern). Peacock,the product of the early '90's Philadelphia music scene, anchors this ecclectic Quintet, whose age range goes from 25 - 40. Dunn & Waller, who bring a southern edge to the table, honed thier skills for many years in the Metro-Atlanta club staple Simply Southern. At the ripe age of 25, Kumar conjurs up thoughts of Jerry Garcia with the technician-like chops of Trey Anastasio. While Stanley adds her heady high harmonies to complete the package.
Check them out at: http://www.myspace.com/strangetrip08
I sing in a Dead band out of Raleigh, NC---we've been together a little over a year now & having a great time so far~ We played 12/28/08 at The Pour House in downtown Raleigh kicking off the New Year a bit early...
Set I acoustic
New Speedway>Spoonful>Smokestack Lightning
Friend Of The Devil
Set II electric
They Love Each Other
Next Time You See Me
Ramble On Rose
Big Boss Man
Cold Rain & Snow
If you want to check us out; the myspace page is myspace.com/betteroffdeadnc
Keep on keepin' on & Hope to see ya on the Golden Road this Spring!
mama mama many worlds i've come since i first left home....
This page has a video of a performance in December of 2008.
I have a request for my fine fellow Dead forum ladies and gents..........
A local public radio station called WYCE who supports local bands has an online vote for their awards ceremony called "The Jammie Awards". This is the 10th year and one of the projects I'm involved with is up for awards in a few catagories, the biggest being a peoples choice for best local album and best new band. The band I'm involved with is called "The Lynn Thompson Band". This year WYCE is doing an online vote for the big award, which The Lynn Thompson Band is up for.
A little backstory on the local music scene here in Grand Rapids is that it has become very cliqueish over the last few years and it's really tough to get gigs and publicity here, especially if the band plays mostly original music. A very select group of bands seem to have a monopoly on the local scene and it would be great to see a total underdog band (such as The Lynn Thompson Band) win.
...........so, if anyone has a couple of spare seconds while browsing this, go to the link below to WYCE and vote for (the) Lynn Thompson Band. If you have multiple email addresses, vote again and urge any friends and family with a spare couple of seconds to do the same.
This is the link.....