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marye's picture
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so sorry

about the loss of your mom, but it sound like she left you a lot to celebrate.

shack's picture
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celebrating the band!

to whoever reads this, please reply. it seems to me that all the shows i had gone to are celebrations of living. today when i have an anniversary of a date of a show; ka-boom! i love them all that much more. today is 7-20-09 and the first 7-20 since my dear mom helen passed in january. she went with me to deer creek today and i am certain she is getting applause from jerry right now. she is probably hitting him for playing "peggy-o." what would your mama think ... i celebrate all my anniversaries of the dates of the shows that i enjoy even today! peace, shack

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hey, I think it's a fine idea

but I also think there are those among us who are so innocent that they believe this place is a straight shot to the decision-makers, and it just ain't that way.

So my concern is with managing expectations and the inevitable sense of exuberant entitlement that seems to come with the territory of expressing one's views online. The undercurrent of being OWED full shows in pristine release that bursts forth every time a Road Trips is announced is downright weird to me. I cannot say whether the views expressed will wind up having any influence at all; all I can do is tell TPTB the topic exists.

Which, in a minute or two, it will.

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very well

.....I am not so 'delusional 'as to think of this place as a democracy.....just trying to have some fun, get a picture of what people really think and provide some feedback. Still, if the view is that 'they will do what they want and that's fine' then there is not much point really is there. I withdraw my suggestion.

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I think

one would be hard pressed, if not actually delusional, to define the Grateful Dead as a democracy, at least if one included the Deadheads. (And, in my view, God help the artist who puts his muse up for popular vote instead of using his own judgment.) They're going to do what they want and that's fine.

But more information is not a bad thing either. Free market research. Whatever.

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people power?

Fair enough Marye.....just like most other democracies then...

marye's picture
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badger

I'm perfectly willing to start a topic (especially if it would divert the perennial whining on this subject from the new-release topics...) but would, of course, need to state explicitly that while the results might be interesting to many, they are not binding on anyone and I imagine Mr. Norman and crew already have their own ideas on the subject!

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jeff

you might try the 45 Years So Far topic for the moment.

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But sometimes the whole show...

... is NOT in the vault. As I remember it, the guy who did most of the taping was Kidd Candelario, a long -time roadie with the band. If he had other, more important issues, for example helping Billy with a loose drum mount, or something else to do, then the taping took a back seat. Not sure when the band made taping the WHOLE show a priority, but I think it was sometime in the late 80's or the early 90's. That's the way it's been in town...

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Whole shows vs compilations referendum

Marye: How about a forum on this.

Once again the debate is raging about whole shows vs compilations. In the latest Rhino era (since this revamped site was launched). I make the score so far this

Total 9 Whole shows: RT2.2 (2/14/68); 3 From the Vault (2/19/71); Winterland Box Set (11/9/73/11/10/73;11/11/73); Cow Palace (12/31/76); To Terrapin (5/28/77); Road Trips Whole Show Download (11/5/79); Road Trips Whole Show Download (11/6/79)

Total 7 Compilations: RT1.1 (Fall’79); RT1.2 (Oct 77); RT1.3 (Summer 71); RT1.4 (Oct 78); RT2.1 (Sept 90); RT2.3 (June 74); Rockin’ the Cradle (Sept 78)

So its a more or less even balance now, with whole shows slightly favoured (mainly because of the 73 set)

So how about a referendum on future policy. Please post your preference from the following list

A. Whole shows only

B. Mostly whole shows with a few compilations

C. About even balance of compilations and whole shows

D. Mostly compilations with a few whole shows

E. Compilations only

If we post our choices A,B,C,D or E in the subject box,then it will be easy to monitor the results. Then we can rant as much as we like in the comment box.

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