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Campaign 2008 - Who Do You Like?

Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It.

So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic!

And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!

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grdaed73's picture
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Solemnly they stated

this forum has to die
You know it has to die

And when the day had ended
With rainbow colours blended
Their minds remained unbended
so this forum has to die
You know it has to die

Hal R's picture
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The Oroboros Soapbox

pretty fine words there my friend

If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake

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When Bush was declared the winner his first election

I made efforts to show him respect and hoped that all would go well. Especially after 911, I hoped that we would be able to unify as a country/people. Other liberals also made efforts (if you recall) to not be 'sore losers' (Gore did conceed) etc. etc. And then Bush was elected to a second term. And do you really think there wasn't hope from many americans (even those of us on the left) that he would do well?

There is such a thing as demonstrating an ability to applaud the efforts of the victor, even when it isn't your guy/team. We have made a practice of that after Nebraska football games and our home crowd stands and applauds the opposing team, win or lose (and have applauded more than we would have liked lately). That is one of the lessons of athletics, to be able to be humble in victory or defeat. In order to embrace the truth, one must have the ability to recognize when the opponent has outmatched you. And you can demonstrate respect for that person.

Shit, Bush himself has made glowing comments about Obama of late, but there is an concurrent inability for others on the right to gracefully accept the will of the people and continue to vilify Obama before he even gets sworn in? And if McCain had won and the left was doing this to him, what would you say? Blaming and attacking him before he even took office? Please! You wouldn't stand for it.

The devisiveness and intense partisainship that has marked the last 20 years doesn't serve this republic well, but talk show hosts on the right and the left love to drum up the hate. It makes them $ and whips their audience into an intolerant frenzy. Is that really what this country is all about?

No wonder so many of the founding fathers were resistive to a system of political parties. My liberal friends made excuses for Clinton and I rebuked Clinton as well as admonishing my friend's double standards for Clinton's duplicity, hypocricy, and inattention to the nation's work that wasn't being done. My conservative friends made excuses for Bush and I rebuked Bush and admonished my friend's double standards for Bush's duplicity, hypocricy, and inattention to the nation's work that wasn't being done.

I know when I get on my soap box, on my high horse, I generally fall off. It is a good thing I have a hard head. Luckily I believe that some of those posting so negatively on Obama have hard heads as well, because you all have landed repeatedly on your noggin since the election. I have had alot of practice at learning to lose, because the candidates I support so rarely have won. Maybe you just need more practice at losing to learn to lose with some dignity.

Take a page from John McCain, or even George Bush. Look at the example of their response to the election and the respect they convey when discussing Obama.

AND you can't have a tug of war with me, because I am on the same side of the rope as you are. IF you are for freedom, equality, justice, pursuit of happiness, etc. all those principles that this country was founded on.

Or I could be wrong.

The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.

Hal R's picture
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you said it Steve-O

thanks

If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake

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i agree....the election is over

but cmon, people have been condemning bush all along (deservedly, mind you).....mebbe mite help if this topic.....went awaaaayy...from the forum!!

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agree

4 EVVV OAR

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Right on Steve-O

The election is OVER-Can't please all the people all the time......No one seemed to condemn or impeach Bush...how weird is that? this topic should just go away
Gypsy Cowgirl

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Elections over!!!!

Can we try supporting the new president before we condem him. Please

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Perspective

I guess during the era of the Chosen One accountability doesn't matter and anything goes. Good thing for Sen Dodd & Franks! Looks like socialism isn't going to be our only big change. People should wake up and stop blaming Bush for everything. As bad as he was, he did not do it all! The one good thing he did was keep us safe.

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The Chosen One

Wasn't that Dubya? God spoke to him or something?

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