The Vineyard Meta-Topic

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Posted: June 11, 2009 - 8:46am

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i agree....

for collection purposes I prefer FLAC but I always convert another copy to mp3 so i can load up a fatty disc chock full of dank shows and just groove all day without breaking the flow of energy by changing discs....kills the bzzzzzzzzzzz

"In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head.
Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

MP3 etc

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If you get sent wav files on CD and want to make CD copies there is absolutely no need to convert them to MP3s and then back to wavs.There are plenty of programmes (such as EAC) that will just let you rip the files and then reburn them directly as wavs.

The trading community strongly discourages (to say the least) converting wavs or flacs to MP3 and then converting back to wav and other formats. Why? Because people have gone to all the trouble to unearth and prepare digital copies of all these shows and to distribute them so that every copy is the same quality as the original (using lossless formats such as wav or flac). If you convert these to MP3s for your ipod that is fine, but there will be some loss of quality. If you then covert them back to wav (or flac) you lose even more quality. If you then trade those copies you are putting inferior quality versions of shows back into circulation. Having finally got the means to avoid the loss of quality across generations, we should all try to use it. Indeed the trading community also tries to discourage seeding shows saved as wavs. Ideally all trading would be from flac to flac.

Similarly if you receive flacs you can either
-copy the flacs to your hdd and play them using programme like foobar2000
-Convert them to wavs using traders little helper and then burn them onto CDs
-Convert them to MP3s for use on ipods etc....but these should not be traded. It is best to keep a copy of the flacs to use for trading and as a back up. Then if you lose any shows you have an original quality back up standing by.

You can see a better and brief explanation of this here

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/faq.php?faq=audio

or visit the various forums in etree

you can have WAV discs with itunes

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Click Edit, then preferences, , then advanced, then importing, then on import using you can set on WAV encoder.

I use Traders Litlle Helper and then burn discs using this method, also make sure and set for no gaps between songs.

If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake

mp3 wav

I don`t trade mp3 , just use it for my own personal . I prefer to store everything in shn/flac.(if it comes that way)
plus shn/flac takes up less space on the old hard drive .
Thank you for the imfo CB . Thank you too Hal .

WAV, FLAC, MP3, Etc

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Well said Cosmic! After all the years of trying to get the highest generation tapes it is so amazing that we can now get the original recordings at the same quality as a first generation tape, all in the blink of an eye. Everyone, please don't convert back and forth from FLAC/WAV to MP3 and back again unless it is solely for your own personal use. When you do convertback and forth what goes missing is the high and low end range of the music. MP3 essentially chops off half the sound so it can compress the files and fit them onto your ipod, etc. The hardcore traders can analyze this and see that the dynamic range has been cut off. The reason all this works is because as we get older we lose the ability to hear some of that range, but simply put, the music isn't as pure as the day it was played anymore - you are only robbing yourself! I'm not trying to be a taper snob, I have been known to use MP3 to burn discs for long road trips, etc. Much easier to manage. But, when at home, it is FLAC all the way...

"when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"

foobar 2000 !!

I just googled it ,and downloaded it . How cool man ! I have over 500 gig of flac in my hard drives and have been thinking someday, i`ll get to listen to it . Now I don`t need to convert it all just to listen . Thank you very much cosmicbadger !!

while I`m here

Has anyone heard or seen toddsnc around ? The May 74 vine I sent him has just come back to me , it has writen in black sharpee return to sender and his address is crossed out .
not normal from the postal service . I sent him a pm today , let`s see if i hear from him,
and is popagoniagirl still with us ? she is next on the may 74 vine . if i don`t hear from either in a few days it will be out to Brewsterboy. Take care folks and thanks again Badger !!

Toddsnc

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Stu:

Same thing happened to me with a vine sent to Todd. I went to the next person on the list. Pretty curious.

"One watch by night, one watch by day
If you get confused, listen to the music play"

Toddsnc

well thats strange , maybe he`s having computer issuses or somthing ? I`ll pm popagoniagirl
and see what happens .

hey Badger , how do I get foobar to play shn ? or is it for flac only ?

Toddsnc

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Opted out of vining a couple of months ago.

"Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"

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