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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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    I was wondering if any one else in the vineyard does geocaching? My wife and I have found a small "travel bug" in a local cache and would like to send it some where further than another local cache. PM me if you play and are interested. Robert
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    this vine was never sent by Long Dead so it probably won't be able to be re-seeded http://www.dead.net/forum/grateful-dead-hour-366-383-vine
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    It appears that Nathan (Long Dead) has taken a break from vining. I have been unsuccessful in any attempts to contact him. Not that there is anything wrong with taking a break since I myself will be on one. However, I did send him my Nov 1970 Vine which I will have to re-seed after only one person which sucks but it's life. If there are any vines anyone is on that are stuck with him, could we please make a list or post it in the proper thread? Also I request his name be placed at the bottom of any list he is on or removed entirely until we hear from him. The most important thing in the vineyard is to keep the music moving so I do not mean this as a personal attack. These are the vines I know of that are stuck with him: November 1970 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/november-1970-vine December 1986 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/december-1986-vine If I need to reseed the 1986 Vine, please pm me. Also, it appears Riley (sportzfreak260) is holding up some vines too (some from June it appears). Has anyone heard from him? Take care and happy vining to all -Jake
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    I have been away for a while. I finally sent the 69 Vine on to Derek. So many issues with this site and also having personal issues makes it hard to maintain my enthusiasm. I also will not spend money on releases when I have no clue what shows will be included. Its insulting. However, I will be forever grateful to Mary and this site and all the viners. I now have tons of music that i will always cherish. Also, the site rejuvenated my interest in the Dead, as I got off the bus in 1985 and got back on 20 years later. Looking forward to seeing Furthur at MSG Thursday, and in Atlantic City Sat. night. Thanks again to all.
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    Dstache and Jake R
    thinking of you both.....please drop by to say hi when the time is right.
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    take care, and all good to your loved ones. Jake R, have a good and restorative break!
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    We are thinking about you Derek! Stay strong
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    Attention Fellow Viners
    I have said on this site before a couple of times that I will be taking time off from here and this time I'm sticking to it. A big thanks goes out to Trevor, Derek, Mark, Rick, Bob, RMB, CB, and all of the viners that were on here when I started that aren't with us now. Sorry if I forgot any names. Without these guys this place wouldn't be the same. I hope you all enjoy this very free trading community and most importantly, keep the music moving. Derek, sorry to hear about your dad. Hope all goes well. Best wishes to you and your entire family. Take care fellow heads and my friends, Jake
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    Hang in there, dstache....
    Best wishes to you and your family....
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    The China > Rider from 5/13/72 reminded me why I love the Dead so much :) I just need to remember that if they want to release shows or, God forbid (hehe), compilations, I get to save a few bucks and not buy them. And if I can ever gather the willpower to refrain from reading the comments re: the releases and on other threads here, I will really be doing ok. Maybe these realizations are the result of a couple of bits of bad news I received today: (1) one of my cats, Gretta, 13 yrs of age, is apparently blind. How the heck did that happen and how am I just finding out about it now?!?!? She lost some weight and we took her in today and that's the diagnosis from the vet. She seems normal other than the weightloss. Her routine hasn't changed. She's very active and gets around fine. It's crazy! (2) More importantly, my Dad, who has suffered from MS most of his adult life, and almost all of mine, is in serious trouble again. He has been in and out of the hospital with various infections and complications for the past 9 months now. As some of you may recall, I received a call from my grandmother last winter that things were looking bleak so I went back to Michigan and visited with him. Things turned out not to be as bleak as she said, but they certainly haven't gotten too good either. My uncle called today and said that the doctor told him that my father was dying a slow death, from the infections and the progressiveness of MS. My Dad's 62, which is pretty old for someone who has MS since their mid-to-late-20's. I'm flying out to see him tomorrow. It feels good to write this. I know I carry the best wishes from everyone here and I appreciate it.
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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Submitted by JBH69Flyer on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 20:57

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This is the most current vinedex I can find. You have to scroll down the thread to find the listing. http://www.dead.net/forum/vindex Looks like a previous update. Best Wishes-Jimmy
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Submitted by Jake R on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:35

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as posted, the vindex is missing CB's latest update. The search box is turning up no results for a lot of things. I use that to track down vines (easier than thumbing through all the listings and pages). Also my 1969 Lossless Part 5 thread is unable to be found. I posted a lil over a week ago if there was no movement on that then I would reseed it. I guess I'll let things settle for little while longer and hope it all works out. Btw I copied CB's vindex and have it saved as a txt file if anyone needs that since he may be busy to repost it.
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Submitted by zepthompson on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:41

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the search errors too was searching for those E72 tour pages that were posted in April and May the ones with track-listing as well as links to one of the songs... gone?
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:41

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I will update it and repost in the next week if it does not reappear
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Submitted by Jake R on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:47

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I suppose an update is needed already due to the massive amount of new vines that have been started since summer (including a nearly complete 1982 year and a nice healthy dose of 1976)
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Submitted by dstache on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 19:48

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The bicentennial grateful dead vine won't allow me to post. I received it yday. I've been working like crazy lately (11pm last night) but will be able to start ripping it tomorrow. Will update, hopefully on the thread, when it is ready to go.
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Submitted by JohnRParker5 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 21:55

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Alright now, starting to feel like the dead letter office in my house. I am holding a lot of vines right now that no one else has signed up for. If you are interested in any of these, paste the link to get to the vine, sign yourself up and PM me your address. Let’s keep this stuff moving along, OK? Peace, JP 1969 Lossless Part 2 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/1969-lossless-part-2-vine 1969 Lossless Part 2 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/1969-lossless-part-4-vine August 1971 Vine Part 1 (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/august-1971-vine-part-1 Old and In the Way Vine (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/old-and-way-vine Three from 1975 Vine (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/three-1975-vine 1977 Lossless Vine Part 1 (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/1977-lossless-vine-part-1 1977 Lossless Vine Part 2 http://www.dead.net/forum/1977-lossless-vine-part-2-5-3-5-26 Pomo1's 78 Flash-back Vine (1978) http://www.dead.net/forum/pomo1s-78-flash-back-vine Merriweather 1983 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/merriweather-1983-vine Greek 84 Vine (re-seed) http://www.dead.net/forum/greek-84-vine 20 Years So Far: Summer '85 Part 1-The Greeks http://www.dead.net/forum/20-years-so-far-summer-85-part-1-greeks 20 Years So Far: Summer '85 Part 2-Wisconsin and Ohio http://www.dead.net/forum/20-years-so-far-summer-85-part-2-wisconsin-an… Colorado 87 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/colorado-august-1987-vine Dylan-Dead Rehearsals Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/dylan-dead-rehearsals-vine The Dead 2/14/2003 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/dead-2-14-2003-vine The Dead 7/10/03 Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/dead-7-1-03-vine Fleetwood Mac vine http://www.dead.net/forum/fleetwood-mac-vine FWGV Vine Installment #1 (Jefferson Airplane and Fleetwood Mac) http://www.dead.net/forum/fwgv-vine-installment-1 FWGV Vine Installment #3 (Cream, Byrds, Yardbirds) http://www.dead.net/forum/fwgv-vine-installment-3 FWGV Vine Installment #5 (Doors and Pearl Jam) http://www.dead.net/forum/fwgv-vine-installment-5 Neil Young Prairie Wind Vine http://www.dead.net/forum/neil-young-prairie-wind-vine Pink Floyd Part 3 Vine (1971, 1977, 1980) http://www.dead.net/forum/pink-floyd-part-3-vine The Big Led Balloon 12-10-07 Vine (Led Zep) (reseed) 1 DVD [Includes LZ show plus bonus Hendrix, Airplane, Doors] http://www.dead.net/forum/big-led-balloon-12-10-07-vine-led-zep
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Submitted by pomo1 on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 08:51

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Have been gone for about a month moving to a new apartment. Hope all is well and everyone had a great summer. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 14:44

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These two at least have vanished. I cannot enter the second one in the Vindex as it is recent. Have notfied Marye. 1969 Lossless Part 5 Bi-Centennial Grateful Dead Vine
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 08:54

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Now the Vindex is getting so huge and seems to have been eliminated from this site, I am planning a new way of sharing it, which is intended to be easier for me, easier for folks to scan and analyse and that will not clog up the site. I am posting a link to a place where you can read a simple spreadsheet online with the VIndex on it. It includes a whole lot more useful info too, including a list of all the shows the GD ever played and dates of all official releases. The link is here. Please tell me if it works OK https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApYQXLRMperodHNXcXhNYjdpWH… thanks CB
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Submitted by JBH69Flyer on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 12:03

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Thanks very much Mr. Badger!! Any chance you can export this data to Microsoft Excel? My attempts have been unsuccessful so far. Best Wishes and Thank You Very Much!!! Jimmy
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Submitted by marye on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 12:21

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we are having some site weirdness, which I've reported to Darren. Strangely enough, the Vindex is perfectly visible in the editor, but everything I've tried to make it visible in real life has failed. Including posting it as a new comment. We're working on this, but in the meantime, it is a good thing that another solution exists. Sorry for the trouble.
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Submitted by Exploratory Da… on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 12:24

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yep, my photos that I uploaded are gone..or hidden :-)
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Submitted by marye on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 12:28

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I reported that too.
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Submitted by dstache on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 17:03

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Hey, this vine is not lost. I have it. I received it on Tue. The link for the thread does not work. MaryE, if you have a chance, please check on that. If the person who is next in line knows they are next in line, please PM me with your info and it will be sent out to you on Tue. Thanks!
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Submitted by ADAWGWYO on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 18:38

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...a PM response from Pomo1 that 1969 part 5 will be on the move shortly.
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Submitted by JBH69Flyer on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 18:44

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I was able to get a copy of the new vinedex in Excel format. Thanks to the Cosmic Badger for his great efforts. Also thanks to zepthompson for the conversion!! Have a Euro72 weekend!! Best Wishes-Jimmy
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 02:30

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I did not mean to suggest that these two vines are physically lost 1969 Lossless Part 5 Bi-Centennial Grateful Dead Vine it's just that the pages that feature them here have disappeared (at least that was the case yesterday) . All part of the weirdness being investigated by MaryE.
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Submitted by dstache on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 11:05

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Gotcha, thanks!
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Submitted by pomo1 on Tue, 09/06/2011 - 09:52

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You probably should have received the 1969 Part 5 vine by now. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by dstache on Tue, 09/06/2011 - 11:17

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I have not received it as of this morning.
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Submitted by friscokid77 on Thu, 09/08/2011 - 13:06

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Maybe I'm slow ... I don't know, but maybe there are others who don't know this: If you PM'd someone and you're not sure if they've read your message yet, go to your "sent" folder. If they haven't opened your message yet, the word "new" will appear in red in the subject line (just like when you go to your inbox and you have new messages). Kida like getting a read receipt. OK, maybe this doesn't seem like a big deal, BUT it does tell you if someone is no longer active in the Vineyard, which could stop vines from dying. For example: there is someone who hasn't opened ANY of my messages since February. If he follows me on the list, I know not to send him the vine. Make sense? New to the 21st century, Chris
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Submitted by dstache on Thu, 09/08/2011 - 13:33

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I didn't know this, frisco, thanks
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Submitted by dstache on Sat, 09/10/2011 - 22:00

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I'm posting my thoughts regarding each show in the respective threads (go to "Shows & Lyrics" on the left, just under "Features") if anyone is interested. I've listened to the first 3 nights, grading 4/7 & 4/8 as 8.5 out of 10 overall, and 4/11 as 9 out of 10. I'm not a musician so my musical vocabulary is pretty limited, though as you all know I've listened to my fair share of Dead shows.
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Submitted by marye on Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:49

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and actually arriving on people's doorsteps, I have retired the vines containing material from the Europe 72 tour. In some cases this is a matter of a single show and the vine could be re-seeded without the show in question. EXCEPT. I have not retired the videos for the time being. Had there been video in the box set, this would have been another story, but for the moment, there doesn't seem to be a compelling issue. Feel free to play it with the relevant CD from the box set cranked up...
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Submitted by Jake R on Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:41

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and thank you CB for new vindex. Sorry I haven't been around in awhile guys. I keep saying the vines I have are gonna move shortly and there should be no reason in delaying any longer the vines that I have.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:48

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Many of you know Johnman, His family is losing his house. Any donations would be appreciated directly to him. You can PM him or PM me for the address.. I know this is off-topic but there are some good souls here on this thread who are kind.
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Submitted by stuman on Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:18

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Hey folks , i am having trouble finding traders little helper , i know its strange.. can someone post a link to the latest version for windows 7 ? Thank you .. And that really bites abt Johnman,, wish i could help but i am still digging myself out of a huge hole.. My thoughts and best wishes are with him.. Look twice save a life, motorcycles are everywhere . Thank you !!
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Submitted by stuman on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 21:02

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i will give it a try.. Look twice save a life, motorcycles are everywhere . Thank you !!
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Submitted by Exploratory Da… on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:02

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recently, the vineyard, and some vines in particular, have been hit these unwanted phantom solicitations
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:15

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In my opinion the vine should keep going. Some of us couldn't get the box set because dead.net can't figure out how to transcribe credit card and address info. Or how to save it to their database. I didn't sign up for that vine because I stupidly assumed I would be getting the box. "I won't take your life won't even take a limb just unload my shotgun and take a little skin"
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Submitted by marye on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 15:55

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the deal with tape trading (and its digital counterpart) being allowed on this site is that once something is in commercial release, it stops being traded here. The All The Music set is in commercial release and not in limited edition, therefore the Europe 72 set is off limits. I am sorry for your order hassles. I am doing what I can to help you with them. But it was not exactly a slam dunk to have tape trading allowed on this site at all, and this is a very bright line governing its being allowed. Thank you.
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Submitted by PonchoBill on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 18:34

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I have been holding up a few vines due to some crazy overtime @ work that was unexpected. They WILL be moving on by Monday. Liberty #1 and #2 Closing of the Spectrum sorry again.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 12:30

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I was just venting. That's all I can do because I am completely powerless in this situation. It's frustrating. "I won't take your life won't even take a limb just unload my shotgun and take a little skin"
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Submitted by marye on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 17:30

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and believe me I am bumming on your behalf.
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Submitted by Exploratory Da… on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 18:24

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been busy, tired, and a little lazy...I am holding up 2 vines, and they will be out this week: '76 and Kingfish
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Tue, 09/20/2011 - 04:15

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and I guess a few others too. Can we start a mutual support group?
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Submitted by Jake R on Tue, 09/20/2011 - 14:03

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the new decade, new vines topic is missing. It has posts from some vine. However, I do like the new formatting of the site.
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Submitted by Exploratory Da… on Tue, 09/20/2011 - 17:44

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this new format is killin' me eyes....when are "they" going to stop messin' around with the site? ;-)
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 07:31

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Is this going to come back? For example when you could search and sort only vines for example?
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 07:56

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What happened? There must have been 10 pages of posts on that day. All the vine threads are buried beneath that stuff. It makes searching difficult to impossible... :(
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Submitted by marye on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:00

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that are only in the Vineyard? (for example) that seems pretty straightforward to me. What am I missing? There are a number of new capabilities, and I'm trying to figure out if some of the old ones exist at all or in somewhat different forms, but topic selection seems to be okay. Topic EXCLUSION seems to be slightly more problematical and I'm still looking into that one... Also the mysterious disappearance of New Decade, New Vines, but hey, failing all else we can always start a new one for that; I don't think we had any new vines pending because of all the upheaval anyway. And if we did, You Know Who You Are.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 14:29

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But I don't see where you can sort the forums into the vineyard only. The 'sort window thing' used to be on the top of the page and I don't see it anymore. I could be as sharp as a marble or just blind.