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    Does anyone have contact information for the photographer who was shooting family portraits at Laguna Seca in 1988? Today my daughter, who was three years old at those shows, mentioned that the post-show scene at those gigs is one of her earliest memories. I’d love to get a print of the photo that was taken by that photographer. Thanks!

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    I love that one. May have to sneak that in today too.
    Cheers

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    Looks like that chunk of 5/22 is Dicks 3

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    Hey 1st Show!

    Thanks for the assist; May 22 1977 is the one. Listening to it right now. You know what's wrong with that show? NOTHING! ;-) Many of the tunes played that night are easily top picks for me.

    D. Fool

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    In Deadbase X, the lists for all 30 Sunrises:
    5-12-77 Estimated>Sunrise>Terrapin
    5-22-77 Good Lovin'>Sunrise>Estimated
    1-11-78 Samson>Sunrise>Terrapin
    4-11-78 Fire>Sunrise>Terrapin
    That's all that have either an Estimated or a Terrapin on either side.
    So maybe that 5-12-77?
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    A long, long time ago, when we listened to tapes, a friend of mine had this great show from (I think) May 1978. Here is what (I think) I remember:
    Terrapin > Sunrise > Estimated, which were mind-blowing. Probably Donna's best Sunrise; will bring you to tears.
    I'm fairly sure that Terrapin went straight in to Sunrise. But I'm sure that Sunrise went straight in to Estimated. I don't think it was edited that way.
    They were playing these tunes a lot at that time, but I've combed through the archives and just can't locate a show with this sequence; my memories may be at fault.

    Thanks!

    D. Fool

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    I'm working on a project where I want to attempt to archive Grateful Dead bootleg lot shirts. I would like to create a print publication as well as a website celebrating the lot bootleg shirt. I would also like to document the stories and lore behind the shirts. I would love to hear any stories about anyone funding their tour by selling shirts, stories from shirt creators, any crazy Dead bootleg story (favorite shirt, shirts tha led to introductions, crazy adventures, etc... Feel free to send me any pictures, stories, ideas, suggestions, etc.. Thanks! Peace.

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    I heard a supercut of Friend of the Devil (I think on Deadcast). It recut the song using live clips from their earliest version to the later years so you could hear the evolution of the song. I can't find it or remember where it's found. Anyone know?

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    Hey. Seems pretty quiet around here, but I'll give it a shot.

    On a hard disk full of music data I have at home, I came across a James "Blood" Ulmer show that I'd torrented probably over ten years ago, but for whatever reason, had never unpacked.

    The directory was simply titled

    ulmer2_27_86

    There is no info file and I'm not familiar enough with his music to figure out the song titles.
    Various Googling strategies have not even turned up the existence of this concert.
    I'm starting to wonder if the date may be listed incorrectly.

    If anyone can't point me in the direction of some info about this show, I'd be... grateful.

    Thanks.

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Submitted by Barbara on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 16:13

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Hello everyone, Can anyone tell me the dates of the cancelled Ventura shows in 1986? They were scheduled to play there soon after Garcia went into the coma. While I'm at it -- does anyone remember the date that the news of his coma got into the newspapers? In case you're curious, this is fact-checking for a story I'm writing. Thanks!
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Submitted by marye on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 17:01

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how vivid that time is in my mind, it is really weird I don't remember. But I'm asking around.
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Submitted by marye on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 17:10

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We got the call about the coma on the night of Thursday, July10; the shows were going to be Saturday and Sunday July 12 and 13. I presume papers probably got word on July 11 and ran it on July 12 (but I don't actually know...)
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Submitted by Barbara on Wed, 01/09/2008 - 14:34

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Thank you! I remember the bracelets handed out at Ventura the following year, bearing the 1986 dates! I saved mine for a while, but despite my best efforts ...
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Submitted by More on Mon, 01/14/2008 - 10:12

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OK.Does anyone know which CD this is? In the very beginning of the show before the band starts playing someone is on stage introducing the band members. When he gets to Garcia he says "on sometimes guitar Jerry Garcia and on some other times guitar Bob Weir ladies and gentlemen for the deadheads of the world the Grateful Dead". It's one of the commercial releases I just can't remember which one. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Submitted by andré on Tue, 01/15/2008 - 08:42

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I am in search of a CD with music by the GD. What I remember from the top of my head is that it was published by an Italian label and has one single track. The title of both should be IT. The article said that it is a mix from a number of recordings of something long and "nameless" the Dead used to play quite often (which does not help a lot) and simply called "IT". any ideas, suggestions ? andré
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Submitted by rebel soul on Wed, 01/16/2008 - 17:49

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i've been to two shows in george,wa usa at the gorge, but i couldnt find them in the shows and lyrics section. it was in the early 2000's can anyone help me so i can post 'em? thanks guys!
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Submitted by rebel soul on Wed, 01/16/2008 - 17:53

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1970's sometime and i cant remember where but my friend had that 4 disc set with the tyedyed cover and it has my favorite versions of and we bid you goodnight and bird song on it. i havent found it in stores, you're my last hope!
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Submitted by Hal R on Wed, 01/16/2008 - 19:27

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It is Ladies and Gentlemen...The Grateful DeadFillmore East - New York City, April 1971 If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by Hal R on Wed, 01/16/2008 - 19:31

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Those were the Dead, not the Grateful Dead. Only Grateful Dead shows with Jerry are listed here. I was at the 2nd of those, July 3, 2004. Robert Hunter, Allman Brothers and then the Dead. It was a Grate Day. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by boffo the chimp on Sat, 01/19/2008 - 19:13

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i have recently been handed a very large stack of dead shows on cd's in shn format. what the heck am i supposed to do with them. i don't know how to listen to them or copy them to pass along. what the f*** is shn? it really is a big stack of music and i would really like to figure out how to hear it. any help out there?
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Sun, 01/20/2008 - 00:14

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You are a lucky chimp, boffo! Thanks for sharing yor good news. These are likely to be files of live shows. .shn is a format for compressing and storing music files as data without losing data each time it is copied (=lossless). Most digital music trading uses this format (or .flac which does the same thing). What can you do with them? Here is my suggestion. You will need a fairly decent computer though 1. Find out what you've got. In each directory of shn files there should hopefully be a .txt. file which provides the show details. Open these files and and make a list of what you've got. 2. Some computer media player programmes will play shn files directly (foobar2000 can be downloaded for free) 3 Or you can download a package called 'Traders Little Helper' for free that will help you convert the shn files to a more accessible format for your own use. .wav for burning onto CDs or MP3 for ipods and such. 4. But you should not lose or wipe the shn files as these are what collectors and traders value most as a lossless source for making their own copies. A forum on this site provides much much more advice on this Forums>Deadheads>Tapers>Technical Discussions As for sharing, well you could post a list on the 'Tape Trading' Forum here Forums>Deadheads>Tapers>Tape Trading Topic and invite people to trade with you (for the SHN files). You should not sell them, but you can ask for help with blank CDs and postage. or you could put put some of your treasure trove as vines through this site Forums>Deadheads>Tapers>The Vineyard or you could upload rare shows to a file sharing site for the whole world to find or you could offer the whole lot to someone else to sort out, maybe in return for useable copies once they are processed that's some ideas! Good luck.
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Submitted by whitebird on Mon, 01/21/2008 - 00:16

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Looking for a ride to Phil and Friends leaving from Orange County area!
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Submitted by BobbaLee on Mon, 01/21/2008 - 05:05

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I am a new kind Dead Head and I don't know much about taping etc how do I get a copy of 1991 Las Vegas show? My mentor says its a must have. thanks!! And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Submitted by andré on Mon, 01/21/2008 - 07:44

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I am kinda new, too. And in case none of the seasoned folks steps up and points you straight to the show you must have (and in case the shop on dead.net does not have it), you might go to http://bt.etree.org That's a website where you can download a few large harddrives of Grateful Dead and other music. The files all are in lossless formats (shn and flac). And in case you are not familiar with these, have a look at what cosmicbadger wrote above. Or check what other seasoned people have posted about it under Forums> Tapers> Technical-Discussions. At etree you will also find links to sites where you can download the software you need to decode the lossless ones. In case you already know about these things, you can go straight to http://bt.etree.org/?search=&cat=8 That's a list of almost 500 files (said to contain more than 1,300 shows) in an amazingly unchronological order. So Happy wading and good luck ! Maybe prepare to loose your last silver dollar on blank CDs. And never let them catch you, no ... andré p.s. : I have read that the GD 02/11/70 show is with Duane and Greg Allman. Have not gotten there. But ... one of them midnights
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Submitted by andré on Mon, 01/21/2008 - 08:01

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Hi Bob, after getting active on the eurotraders mailinglist yesterday (thanks for founding it), I asked about "IT" and within no time some happy mail bombing began. I got dizzy and then ordered Grayfolded, after checking about the difference to Greyfolded and although each average human will have no reason to label a one hours mix of Dark Star "IT", beause the base of one of the two Greyfolded discs has a title since the first GD live LP. andré
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Submitted by BobbaLee on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 04:32

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For the past few days I have not been able to log on to this site-it keeps telling me to download a certain software.I will look into all of the info you have written I live in Miami and saw the GD once in 1968 at Gulfstream pop festival I was in 14 and hated them-I was waiting for the Mothers and Jimi wish I would have sat next to the stage. And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Submitted by marye on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 09:14

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So sorry about your login problems; it was a disturbance elsewhere in the force but should be history by now.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 13:48

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Hello, I wouldn't exactly call my self a dead head, because I'm 17 and never went to a show (sadly) but I'm a huge fan. In my english class we are doing research papers on poets. I chose Robert Hunter, I'm have some problems with finding biographical information on him. Does anybody know of any accurate website or book with good information on him. I read what was on the site but i need things more like "Robert Hunter was born ____ and had 3 dogs and a hamster" any help would be very appreciated.
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Submitted by iknowurider on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 14:32

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Your post made me feel awesome. Keep the music Playin! Anyway, maybe you could try answers. com & the Robert Hunter Archive. Good Luck & Let us know how your search goes PEACE
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 14:41

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this has to be the friendliest forum ever. I looked him up and found his birth day, which is a start, i just need more on his childhood, things like that, it's so easy to find Grateful Dead information, not so much Robert Hunter with no mention of the Grateful Dead. thank you for the help, it's better than nothing ^.^ i'll keep looking!
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Submitted by Hal R on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 14:53

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I am a big Robert Hunter fan and have never seen much of his bio in one place.Wish I could help you Louise. Hello Blair Jackson, this could be a companion to the Jerry bio. The other part of the incredible songwriting team. How about it? f the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by iknowurider on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 17:44

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Hal R & Marie, right on ! Thanks, Louise PEACE
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Submitted by Warlock on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 21:40

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I wanted to know if there has been a compilation of very exquisite Space jams? Is this the best forum for this? I want to either find a compilation or put one together, just enough for maybe 1 -2 CD's. Maybe people here can tell me their favorite space jam. I could listen and put it on a CD or whatever. I thought of it being a nicer way for me to relax. It seems since I play the Grateful Dead quite a bit, I'm always singing it outloud and with the band and what not, but when Drums come on I feel like a drummer, but Space I notice I like to relax. Thanks a load!! A dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago... ________________________ www.autoquoteresearch.com
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 06:39

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One such effort is called Infrared Roses compiled by Bob Bralove from 89/90 shows I think. Happens to be a discussion topic on Eurotraders at the moment. I am not sure if the GD store offers it, but you can pick it up on Amazon.................. ......and they might actually succeed in sending it to you (he added wistfully)
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Submitted by 143or245 on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 07:12

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hello louise_nicole... i have sent u a private message with some information which may be helpful to u on this project. good luck and we sould luv to see ur final report! stay safe and feel good! >><<<< :>
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Submitted by Warlock on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 13:38

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Ha! Forgot I have that double disc set. I should pop it in again. A dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago... ________________________ www.autoquoteresearch.com
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Submitted by Warlock on Sat, 01/26/2008 - 00:15

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Hey, I have hardly popped in any GD CD's in a long time. I've converted to MP3 and havn't turned my CD's into MP3 yet. I have plenty of live in MP3 from my computer...Anyways. I've listened to Greyfolded last evening and started to listen to my Infrared Roses this evening. Thanks a ton! Now that I've opened my CD collection (prolly 95% of what's been released) I need to put these in my iPod. Hell it holds 80G. A dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago... ________________________ www.autoquoteresearch.com
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Submitted by lookatitright on Fri, 02/08/2008 - 00:07

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Just curious. There's some great video, b&w, of the 4/27/77 show in Passaic on You Tube. It is credited to "Brokedown House Productions." Anyone know the original source of this video? It was on WNEW radio. Was the show on tv somewhere? Was it a fan's tape? ??????? Enlightenment Please.
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Submitted by dadhead on Mon, 02/18/2008 - 08:34

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Hello. I need a miracle. I have had the 100 dead songs poster for a while. It is in my cubicle, as is a statue of Jerry, to bring me serenity during work hours. However it is now a source of torment. I can't get all 100 songs. Is there a solution to this poster anywhere? I can get about 90 of them. The last 10 are killing me. What song is that spider from? I just can't think of it. Any help will be grately apprecited. Thanks. Gratefuldad
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Submitted by Little Wing on Mon, 02/18/2008 - 10:08

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ha, ha....I haven't seen it for a while, but I do have a guess on the spider.....For some reason, the album 'Jerry Garcia', where it's just he and Bill Kruetzmann playing on the whole thing, comes to mind. Maybe a song from that album? Now you got me wondering;) Justin and I would put that CD on really loud in his grandfather's garage on Halloween night and just let it play through the valley in Mill Valley, CA. That was tons of fun! -L.Wing
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Submitted by marye on Mon, 02/18/2008 - 17:36

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I think you're right, Wing. But I would never have gotten 90 of 'em, so my hat is off to dadhead.
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Submitted by Ami on Sat, 02/23/2008 - 11:36

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I haven't seen on of those since jr. high, is that the b&w poster with the scribbly line drawings, bertha the fan, ship of fools pretty obvious? I remember a few nights of trying to count our way to 100...Ami
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Submitted by izzie on Sat, 02/23/2008 - 12:51

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I had all 100 at one point, but that was years ago. If I saw the poster again, I bet I could do it! is the spider not Spider Gawd?
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Submitted by dadhead on Sun, 02/24/2008 - 10:20

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Thanks to all who have reponded so far. I still don't have 100 but I at least have Spider Gawd. I was keeping it to just Dead songs and not the solo stuff but it is the only thing that fits. Thanks again. Maybe together we can all solve this thing. Dadhead
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Submitted by warren on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 17:03

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The NFA - GDTR segue on "Grateful Dead" is from (I believe) a show in 1971 at the Manhatten Center. The CD (even the bonus CD in the box set) has a version that cuts off right after Goin Down The Road wraps up, but I have heard a version that continues, in a much slower pace, for another 2 - 3 minutes, then segues back into Not Fade Away. Does anyone either know, definitively, where I can find that "extended long" version, or know of a site that I could query to try to get to the bottom of it?
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Submitted by Dougoly on Wed, 04/30/2008 - 19:57

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I am 30 years old but unfortunately new to really listening to the dead. I was wondering where to get some taper style dead. I am looking for something I can get without having to worry about viruses or preferably not torrent. I would appreciate any suggestions including continuations (i.e. Phil & Friends, J.G. Band). Thanks
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Submitted by Oroboros on Wed, 04/30/2008 - 20:24

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check out the selection in the Vineyard. I have been here since were were vining (sending concert CD's to one another to rip and burn and pass along) and I have not gotten any viruses or problems with this process. You can find JGB, Phil & Friends, RatDog, and all manners of transportive aural Dead (and other) music for the cost of mailing ($2 and up). Check it out, you will be glad you did!
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Submitted by Crash Davis on Thu, 05/01/2008 - 20:06

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I used to have a show on tape years ago, and it is long gone. It had my favorite version of Lost Sailor and Saint of Circumstance. I believe Lazy lightning came right before or possibly after. It has been rolling through my head for days now, and I need to find it. During Lost Sailor, Bob asks, "Where do you want to go now, what do you want to do now?" Does anyone remember this, and what show it came from? Thanks!
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 03:24

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According to setlists.net Sailor/Saint and Lazy Lightin/Supplication appeared in the same set three times only (but never consecutively) 05/06/80 Rec Hall (Penn State University) - State College, PA 05/08/80 Glenns Falls Civic Center - Glenns Falls, NY 07/01/80 San Diego Sports Arena - San Diego, CA suggest you go to Archive.org and check out which one you are thinking of. good luck
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Submitted by erickat on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 17:09

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Link --> images.google.com/imgresBlack Throated Wind Fire on the Mountain Franklin's Tower Wake of the Flood Mountains of the Moon Jet to the Promised Land Smokestack Lightning Dark Star Brokedown Palace Truckin' New Speedway Boogie El Paso Deep Elum Blues Help on the Way Playing in the Band Hard to Handle I Know You Rider Sittin' on Top of the World Saint Stephen I'm a Hog for You Loose Lucy New Potato Caboose Greatest Story Ever Told Terrapin Flyer Casey Jones Monkey & the Engineer It Takes a Lot to Laugh (It Takes a Train to Cry) Dark Hollow Hangin' Boy Blues The Faster We Go (The Rounder We Get) Dire Wolf China Cat Sunflower Ramblin' Rose Terrapin Station Weather Report Cold Rain & Snow Looks Like Rain Bertha Lady With a Fan Operator Big Boss Man Mexicali Blues What's Become of the Baby The Wheel Candyman Good Morning Little School Girl Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks) Chinatown Shuffle Shakedown Street We Bid You Good Night Tennesse Jed Born Cross Eyed Crazy Fingers The Eleven Turn On Your Love Light Dupree's Diamond Blues Alabama Getaway Going Down the Road Feelin' Bad Ship of Fools Row Jimmy, Row U.S. Blues Ripple Lost Sailor Alligator China Doll Eyes of the World Kings Solomon's Marblese Washed My Hands (Muddy Water) To Lay Me Down Doin' That Rag Loser Money Money Samson & Delilah Cream Puff War High Healed Sneakers Sand Castles and Glass Camels Blues for Allah Good Lovin' They Love Each Other Friend of the Devil 83968 Slipknot! Unbroken Chain Deal Cosmic Charlie Box of Rain Morning Dew Spider Gawd Big Railroad Blues Big River Wharf Rat Dancin' in the Street Black Peter Stealin' Bird Song Saint of Circumstance Golden Road High Time Lazy Lightnin' You Win Again Throwin' Stones Black Muddy River
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Submitted by GRTUD on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 18:00

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I loved that stuff... "You know what the trouble about real life is? There's no danger music."