arthur & keith-keep comin back brothers-like shack said, this is exactly where you need to be-i've always managed to find fellow rats at NA mtgs, though i might have to go for a wk to meet em-doin 90 in 90, gettin a sponser & workin steps worked for me when i was ready to do the deal-keith, after doin this for 12 yrs b4, ya know it's possible-get back on the bus bro, we're waitin for ya-arthur, i didn't get clean cause i wanted to be clean, it happened cause i was tired of the pain & wanted things to get better-i had to put down the dope b4 i could work on havin a better life-it's been a worth trade off for me ever since-after 3 yrs, i stay clean not because of wanting to be clean, it's because it's a lot better than the option
I told Donny that Wharf Rat meetings were for people trying to quit Dead shows. He believed me and we sat in with the group and Donny kept wondering why they would pick a Dead show to do this at. We got the free candy and then I go t really stoned.
Thanks Shack, I appreciate the encouragement!- Two Sets
deer creek - indpls. peace, shack ----- hey guys one little piece of advice that i would like to share is simple: keep in touch, stay connected! meetings are great and this site is a super tool. this little wharf rats thingy is a double whammy with grateful dead interwoven with true sobriety. do not act like you both maybe shouldn't be here, this is indeed where you should be. stay connected to safe people and safe places. go to a meeting or a bunch, there are people who care. have a grateful day! peace, shack
Hi Keith, I'm having trouble myself, and haven't kept sober. I don't have the answer. I think for me if I had more things to do, get involved in, then maybe I'd need to be clean. But I currently am not choosing anything to participate in. Write me if you want. Also, you gotta want help, or want to be sober, which I can't say I want now. Maybe I have to hit bottom worse. Should I get off this forum, since I am maybe not deadicated enough? I don't know. But I'm digging the dead, and that's something, or some connection with y'all.
you got some folks around there you can lean on and call for help, right?
thank you bobby and phil.we damn sure cant forget mickey and bill.we love you
i came in and out of the bus but was always welcome.i need some family now...i fell off after 12yrs and cant seem to get a grip againfeel free to write , i could sure use some support.the shit got me and wont let go.
stay strong shack, remember that we are here for you
nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
Deep condolences and beams of positive energy
so sorry for your loss.