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"Lost Sailor>Saint Of Circumstance>Deal"
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A double dose of Weir with a classic Garcia song to end the first set with a bang
day26_KcVCqhgTuzBpyTF_lost_sailor_01.mp3
Long Beach, CA, Long Beach Arena
"Lost Sailor>Saint Of Circumstance" had been in the repertoire since mid-1979, and was included on Go To Heaven in April 1980. Played frequently for seven years, in 1986 "Lost Sailor" was dropped from the repertoire for good
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  • Roarkster
    5 months ago
    Operator

    Didn't the band play 'Operator' live at least once during their 30 year career? I can't find a single rendition of that great Ron/Pigpen song anywhere over the entire 30 Years of Dead since it began in 2010. Please, more from Workingman's Dead and American Beauty era gigs!

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    ever grateful
    5 months ago
    Roarkster re: Operator...

    9-18-1970 Fillmore East, New York was given on 30 Days of Dead 2015, Day 25.
    Dave's notes:
    Appearing on American Beauty, Operator was played live for only four months, and only four times in those four months.

  • Roarkster
    4 months 4 weeks ago
    Operatored

    Thanks for that Ever Grateful (am sure that too!). Checked the 2015 songfest and there it is. Still three more versions of 'Operator' that could enrich future 30 Days thereof . . .

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A double dose of Weir with a classic Garcia song to end the first set with a bang
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"Lost Sailor>Saint Of Circumstance>Deal"

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Bullseye. My 1st try landed right on this one. A few built-in hints helped, and a lucky aim.

I'm sure appreciating all the tunes we've received this year....even the repeats! And maybe especially because we're nearing the end. It's truly a treat to hang with you all and enjoy this special month every year!
Grateful!

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cutting down on the search time. i know where i'm at, but don't want to pick just yet. will have time tomorrow. gotta make this one last. ever notice how so many of the eighty's shows don't have SBD copies, but most of the really early shows through the seventies have pretty stellar quality SBD copies. Seems like by then they'da been more careful about getting all the shows for posterities sake. compared to early on where it'd be like -hey come check out these guys putting down some killer tunes. All these years searching i'm amazed how many 80's shows i come across with no SBD copy. by the way this thought has nothing to do with today's choice, just something I've always wondered about.

I am a novice fan but I believe what you refer to as the soundboards were mostly Betty Cantor~Jackson's recordings. (To which she did volumes throughout the 1970s) She would split from the band in the early '80s after breaking up with Brent, they became a couple in the late 70s. Betty was put on the official GD payroll after 1976 I believe. I think I read somewhere her last SDB was 1981 "Dead Set" so that may explain why no SDB from mid 1980s shows? Just speculation. Tragic story is the one about her storage unit that kept many classic shows. they got most the Betty Boards back in 2017, same year as the Cornell release.

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but I'll pull through.

long list of choices in the time frame of our Dead dose today - you and me gonna spend some time wonderin' what to choose!

still waiting Dave's stumper...

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When a BANG takes place, you think of certain things in life! That's what got me going on this. More so a speedy heavy short jam. Didn't DAVE already mention a BANG earlier in this SEASON'S session?

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It's interesting how this triplet changed over the course of a year-plus.

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Another day without a PIGPEN SONG - not one in five years of 30 days. Saint and Sailor both SUCK.

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A longer Deal than most that year...

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Pig sang covers which is why he gets no play here. Sailor>Saint are awesome. You need to check yourself...

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I love Sailor>Saint. No other band could begin to do it.

If you find yourself not liking it, just imagine you're in that poster with the skeleton smoking a joint on a beach looking out over the distant sea through the palm trees contemplating the universe in a figment of a skull and roses descending into the ocean waters...

yeah, baby, you don't get that from Taylor Swift

Maybe going on a feeling

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Got my work cut out for me.
Cheers

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Hey Jamgol -- it's fine to have opinions about what songs you like or don't (hey, I've never been a fan of Sailor / Saint, but so what?), but facts are facts: Pigpen did write songs for the Grateful Dead, which is something that you could discover in about 2 minutes using a web search. Prime examples: Operator, Chinatown Shuffle, and Two Souls In Communion. Not a lot, but he wrote those songs, both words and music. Sure, he sang a lot of covers, but I'll take his version of Good Lovin' over the later disco-fied version (sorry, Bobby!), and his version of Too Hard to Handle is something I love. Beyond that, anyone who questions his importance to the Grateful Dead doesn't know their Dead history. Without Ron McKernan, there would have been no Grateful Dead, at least as we came to know it.

no denying pig was the man and is a very imp part of GD history. we all love what we love but at this point, we all know there won't be much (if any) pig in 30 days. peace

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an excellent choice today, tight, crispy and right in my prime dead time of life.

so, hopefully i am not giving anything away.
i looked ( be it book, database, app, program or abacus) and counted 25 or so times the sequence was played. What i found most interesting was that 20+ times was from a very tight time period and the last were 1 time per year for 4 years.
It is all this trivia, and little bits that slowly make me better at finding the show. Hoping it is obvious by the 1 time per year group.
Just musing and thinking how much i get out of 30 days of dead each year, and how much went into this long strange trip.
I am starting my 47th year on the bus traveling from keith & donna to brent with midnites and jgb on to hornsby and vince. Then the further festivals in the late 90’s, the other ones, the dead, NRPS, Phil, Ratdog, Billy’s Kids, 50th, dead and company and a dozen or so explorations by each band member. They are all just great and have been the cause of a huge amount of fun, excitement, trips, and some brief trips to hell and back.
Thank you all for your help on the way.
Peace be with y’all always
wow i am either super emotional or just stoned today…lol

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It's not about who loves Pigpen and who hates him. Yes we know he wrote songs too. Yes he did a ton of covers that can't be used here.
The issue is there are players every single year who piss and moan about the lack of Pigpen material, yet every year other players explain it is due to...
A LACK OF USABLE PIGPEN MATERIAL!
It's not a conspiracy. Dave doesn't hate Pigpen. You shouldn't either. Nor should you hate Bobby or Lost Sailor/Saint Of Circumstance or else what are you doing here??

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The Scarlet>Fire from that same show is absolutely monumental

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Hope everyone had a good holiday. Pondering the comments this morning in my 50th year on the bus(!),and the traditional annual Pigpen/Bobby debate festathon and even good ol' Taylor Swift. Pig was indeed the soul of the band, especially in the early years. He wrote songs and covered a lot more. He was a bluesman and kept the band grounded. What attracted me to the band early on as a kid was the diversity of musical directions they explored, the commitment to craft and the willingness to explore, fail, and try again - all while indulging in healthy doses of laughter at the whole spectacle. So when that bus came by, I got on for the ride. Without a Net indeed!
It's healthy to debate and discuss preferences, strengths, weaknesses, and so on. The truth is often less exotic and emotional than assumed - such as in the case of Pig. It's true that legal/financial copyright issues keep a lot of the Pig material from being shared during 30 Days. It's not a preference on Dave's part, or anything like that. It's also OK to prefer or focus on one band member more than another, although in my experience they all brought such passion and commitment to excellence in their craft that listening to any or all is a pleasure. I happen to like BOTH versions of Good Lovin' and I appreciate the difference in approaches by Pig and Bobby. They were ALL important - interesting that both Bobby and Pig were kicked out in '68 only for the rest of the band to realize how integral they both were to the sound.
That commitment to craft, to experimentation and to refining material, along with the joy the band inspired in millions over the years is why I don't knock Taylor Swift. While there are many things that a Dead fan might not get from Taylor Swift, there's a heck of a lot of Swifties who get about the same things from her as we all get from the boys.
My adult kids are into her and couldn't name a song but from what I've seen and how my kids seem to feel, there are quite a few similarities in experience for fans between the GD and TS. I'm not saying she's anywhere close to the Dead, I'm saying that for her fans, the emotional and musical payoff is very similar to what Dead or Phish fans experience (or Cheeseheads or Parrotheads, etc.). As for me, I'm on the bus to Never-ever land for life!

I'm definitely not convinced by the preposterous equation here. I could go off on a long discourse about why there are important differences that make a difference between Swifters and Deadheads, but I doubt the game is worth the candle.

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"Preposterous equation"? I can't name a TS song to save my life, but that ain't the point. Of course there are differences between Swifties and Deadheads, Phish heads and Deadheads, Deadheads and Deadheads! The point isn't how "special" Deadheads are compared to everyone else, or how much better the GD are than TS - but you're right - if the point isn't clear, it's not worth a match, let alone a candle. After 50 years on the bus, I've learned that pointing out, let alone convincing, any Deadhead that they might be not as special as they thought, least of all a dogmatic Fool*, is an exercise in futility. The band was always open to other musicians and other music - that's what made them so attractive, especially to this escapee from a rigid religious upbringing. Over the years, I was lucky enough to see a huge range of musicians, because the band was open to other music, from Ornette Coleman to Suzanne Vega and beyond. Deadheads? Not so much. The responses to my comment are demonstration enough. But hey now, we disagree on that point. I'm sure we agree on the important stuff like how awesome 30 Days is and how indebted we are to Dave for keeping us guessing year after year! Wishing all Heads a great holiday season!
*said with respect and affection - the wordplay opportunity was too good to pass up!

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The L->S->D really should have been so much easier for me to find today. Dismissed it definitively the first time through, then put it in the “MAYBE” list, and finally clicked the third time around, although I was looking for the same clue each time!
Maybe all that turkey has rotted my brain

And please- stop talking about Ms Swift.
It’s not safe to watch a football game any longer, what with the Taylor sightings and all. I personally could care less what the Swifties or Swifters or whatever care or think about, but if I was interested I’m sure I could find some TS chat room to bring me up to speed.

Sorry if I offended anyone- we now return you to your regular programming

alot of these sailors all start out very similar, almost syncing up. enough to keep you guessing. fortunately not too many to listen through. despite the other clues. ever notice there's songs like sailor that you figure you heard but upon these searches you discover you never got to hear it live. think it's because i've listened to it so much and seems so familiar and you figure after 120+ shows you woulda heard it. but the archives tells you no. some day i'll spend the time to go through the list and see what i thought i got to hear but didn't.
anyway who is taylor swift?

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You and me bound to spend some time wondering what show to choose.
Tonight I crossed the line, listened to about 30 Lost Sailors.
Goes to show you don't ever know how many shows you may need to undergo.
Some of you may be just going on a feeling for this day.
4 more Days of chasing dreams..

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I was at this show... or the night after. Took my 10 year old nephew to his first concert.

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I was at this show... or the night after. Took my 10 year old nephew to his first concert.

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I was at this show... or the night after. Took my 10 year old nephew to his first concert.

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Site kept sending error message, so didn't think it posted.

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I was having a harder time finding this one than I thought I would. So after getting it finally, I read some posts. YEAH! What a trip huh? The early Brent era `79 to early 1980 versions are without Deal end jams. {20x or so played `79-'82} Last year I bought the MsG Box set and there was only 1 Deal and it was a first set extended jam closer so I had a hunch where to look but still took too long to find it! Kudos to the other Head that put up some stats, that was interesting indeed. Only played once in 1983, '84, '85, & '86. those versions took awhile to find. Anyways, Ciao!

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this is i hope only slightly off topic: where can i get the 2022 set of 30 Days? Somehow I missed or lost it, and I have all the others from 2010 on... help?
Thanks

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…Suite. Sat in a car for 14 hours today. After about 12 got out phone read none of the comments and just listened to it. Looked at the 25 choices and, once again, the ambiance told me the answer. I may have had this tape at one point too.

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Didn't the band play 'Operator' live at least once during their 30 year career? I can't find a single rendition of that great Ron/Pigpen song anywhere over the entire 30 Years of Dead since it began in 2010. Please, more from Workingman's Dead and American Beauty era gigs!

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9-18-1970 Fillmore East, New York was given on 30 Days of Dead 2015, Day 25.
Dave's notes:
Appearing on American Beauty, Operator was played live for only four months, and only four times in those four months.

Thanks for that Ever Grateful (am sure that too!). Checked the 2015 songfest and there it is. Still three more versions of 'Operator' that could enrich future 30 Days thereof . . .

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