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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • marye
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    Tim and others with disc issues
    if you're still having trouble, send me a PM and I'll pass it to the Doc.
  • TimP
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    I too have had 2 issues with…

    I too have had 2 issues with this box set. 1 - my booklet had been bent during packing and I have 1 defective disc Disc 17 (disc 1 of 5/21/73 Seatle. Big scuff mark and skips on track 9 and fails to pick up on track 10 /11 / 12 after skipping.)

    Got the standard response from Rhino - filled in the forms and nothing back from them yet. Both complaints now over 30 day s outstanding - any advice on how to proceed.

    BTW -- a lot of fantastic music on this set -- but also a lot of recordng issues -- most of which have been already mentioned. This too is making me question whether to buy complete boxes in future ??

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    The Pacific Northwest ’73-’74 big box

    My big beautiful insane Pacific Northwest box arrived on Thursday afternoon, September 13. I opened it up, examined it for damage or weirdness. I found lots of weirdness, but no damage at all. It was (and is) perfect, but I was busy so I put it away on my living room bookshelf. Yesterday, November 4, I took the box into my office and started ripping and listening to the CDs. This is astonishingly beautiful music. The playing is intense, inspired, and precise, and the clarity and detail of the recordings (as rendered here) are breathtaking. There are some flaws scattered about – dropouts and balance issues – but for me these flaws do not detract at all from the immensity of the greatness of this box of beauty. These are among the greatest Grateful Dead recordings I’ve ever heard (and I have 288 hours of Grateful Dead recordings ripped so far). So thank you for this fantastic effort. A lot of work and care went into this, obviously. Similar to some of the Mosaic boxes of classic jazz recordings, this one is for people who want to hear all of it, not just curated highlights.

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    MARYE - defective discs

    Hey I just saw your message in thread, I think I got it all sorted out with email to customer service. They replied with replacement disc on the way.

    I appreciate the speedy response and help.

    Time to rock out !!!

    Spinning some 1985 Grateful Dead

  • MDJim
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    I see this too, but there is a silver lining.. I am seeing lots of new folks step up and post positive comments, reviews and keep the vibe alive. The yang is there too.. a bit of complaining and the blem CDs and manufacturing error rate provides more than a valid reason to complain. I would consider providing CDs that play a core competency.

    Still we get some good with the bad and new inputs and perspective is a good thing. I hope we didn't lose more than we gained.. there are a few I have not seen in a while that consistently added to the mix.

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    I would agree with the points below, but it may also be the fact that there are multiple recent release threads - e.g. this PNW box thread, the DaP 28 thread and the DaP 2019 Subscription threads. Who knows, hopefully it will pick up again.

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    I think Reijo has a point.

    Drifters, I see your point too. But I like that show and am still glad it got released. The China>Rider, WRS and Jam after Truckin' are very nice and I really like the young Peggy-O's which are somewhat special and rare. The fade is on the source recording so the choice is whether to release the show or not.. all the remastering in the world is not going to bring the vocals up in the mix.

    Dicks Picks used to place a caveat emptor on the back of the jewel case regarding sonic anomalies and the ravages of time, etc. The other point to make about some of these box sets is the tendency to make something very good and slip in a show that might not have made it as a Dave's Picks. Sort of slip one in on is. I don't think this is the case for this box, but 30 Trips had a couple of these. For $30 a show, and being a bit of a completist myself I am ok with it.. but I see the other side of things. I am sympathetic but happy to see these old tapes get special treatment. I appreciate the efforts they went through making this sound as good as it can.. but that's just me. One opinion.

    Love the latest Dave's Picks.. but a topic for another thread. Talk about exceeding expectations...

  • reijo29
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    hate to complain but...

    They should really put these chats right under the product page the way it was previously. There are now less and less posts cause it's simply a headache to find these threads. I think the community is thinning out because of this. Steve Hoffman Forums is a great alternative community for GD superfans who want to chat up these releases or anything else.

  • Drifter's Escape
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    Mix issues

    I totally understand there may be sound issues with recording sources that are 30-50 years old. Recently we've had the heavy 'reverb' on the GSTL from '77, the splice in Dave's 27, Eyes of the World, which seemed to enrage so many, and now the various issues with PNW. Bill and Donna are high in the mix at times and some say Jerry is too low.
    My complaint is on disc 1 of Portland '74. From about halfway into Sugaree thru El Paso the vocals are practically inaudible. Like karaoke versions. Which admittedly is kinda fun in a weird sorta way. But c'mon.
    Maybe there should be a page or paragraph or Something in the already included literature by the producer/engineer where they could address and acknowledge some of the issues with a particular release.

    What's the old saying? "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining". And don't say nothing and pretend that everything is just exactlty perfect. By saying Nothing it only makes people wonder if it's only their disc/equipment/ears/delusion.

  • MDJim
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    Re: Unkle/Remix the Entire Box

    Perhaps I am behind in reading all these posts.. but the mix issues on my CDs seem to match up with the mix issues on the soundboards in the Archive. This means either the problems with the mix exist on the source master reels or all these sound engineers are hitting off the same crack pipe (which I guess is a possibility albeit a slim one). So remixing the entire box would likely yield the same result, but at great expense and causing much confusion for all.

    Just to make sure I was not seeing double (hey.. it happens), I took some time to compare the PNW box to my source soundboards that I pulled down from the archive long, long ago. The issues with the mix are consistent comparing one show to the next.

    Is this another poke to make sure we have maintained our sense of humor? ….remixing the entire box seems a bit silly perhaps, but not very much fun.

    Again, I could be missing something..

    One thing comparing my recordings to these did yield.. the PNW box sounds better than what I pulled down. Even the 73 shows sound quite good to me and my system with and without headphones.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Mine would look very similar, but I can never decide if FW69 or E72 is tops. They flip flop. Note for note, FW69 is the one, but the sheer volume of glory in E72 is hard to overlook. I'd probably knock 30 Trips down to behind GSTL too, but again, it's splitting hairs.
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I hate to be a complainer but I am really annoyed here. If the release date is 9/7/18, shouldn't the set be shipped in time to arrive today??? Dave's Pick always arrive on release day. I've got some cool stuff happening this weekend that I've been envisioning this set being the soundtrack for. Now I get my shipping notice and it's going to arrive on Monday? To say that I'm bummed is an understatement. I guess I'll try to psych myself up for receiving in time for the...middle of the work week.
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unless you are really new here, this happens every box release.based on past experiences since rhino licensed the vault, this seems to be the usual release day stuff. paying extra to get it expedited, makes you think you might get it on release day, but expedited shipping only works once it has already gone on sale and is in the warehouse. there is no difference in delivery time on preorders, everything goes out UPS at the same time the day before it goes on sale. preordering a digital set is a crap shoot, people are still waiting for the July 1978 flacs that they preordered. CA time is when the digital links will go online, not east coast, so another 2 hours before the download links get activated.
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No working link yet. 9:40 EST. I do, however, get an unwanted jpg of western rock formations that automatically downloads every time I reload this page, so there's that..... Edit: I don't intend this as a complaint (well, I wasn't loving the automatic jpg download, but that seems to have stopped), but as a confirmation that JB was not alone. Eagerly awaiting.
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After about 3 months of waiting for this box of wonders, I think we can wait a couple more days.. I too was hoping for it today but got my notice last night- due to be delivered Monday. Its not just you, but its a couple days Cant wait to rip into this thing!
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Looks like I'm getting my copy on Saturday end of day. Which means my Saturday night looks like this: 1. Headphones 2. Red wine that is all.
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If you are desperate and willing to sacrifice audio quality it is up on Spotify...
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Pretty accurate list. I actually prefer the first May 77 box set to GSTL, but not enough to squabble about. For me, the gap between the top two and the rest of the releases is pretty wide.
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I have just started the first show and they are still trying to get the mix right on Bertha I can tell already that this box is without a doubt the best sounding officially released 73 shows.
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Now we're talking. Encouraging news... in the end it's all about the sound. I am holding hope that someone gets the physical box today. ...but really, we have already waited 45 years for this, what's another day or two. I love it all, but this box scratches my sweet spot.
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It's doubtful it means anything. I suspect shipping at Rhino is something akin to hurry up then wait. They don't do these mass mailings every day so they likely task rotate a small staff to handle these releases. When things ship, I bet they can get pretty overwhelmed and have to burn the midnight oil just to get through the week. I still haven't received my shipping notice yet. Vegas odds I get the box before the shipping notice? 3-1? Where's VGuy when you need him?
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....that trying to figure out Rhino/Dead.net's shipping/notices is an exercise in futility. Any why the hell did i just watch the reveal video? I promised myself i wouldn't.My arrival date just got bumped up from the 12th to the 11th, which is Mickey's birthday, which is cool. It's also my wedding anniversay, which is even cooler.
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How and where did your download link arrive? thanks, b
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PM me the details and I'll see what's going on.
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Email with redemption code just arrived. Hey now! Hey! b
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Email with redemption code arrived about two minutes ago. Downloading now. Gonna be a Grate weekend...
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....what's in that wooden cigar box looking thing?edit. The Believe It If You Need It 3-disc set is up and running on Spotify if anyone wants to cheat.
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Usually has some small items in there like ticket stubs, mini hand bills, patches, stickers, back stage passes. etc. One of the 90's boxes had a set of dice. Usually a mystery
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It's really impressive. I think this is the best artwork for any of the sets that have come out...i love it.....kudos!!!
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For those who haven't yet received a shipping notice, what's your order status when you look it up on the website? Mine's still listed as "not shipped."
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PACIFIC NORTHWEST '73-'74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS BOXED SET: The music the Dead made during those six Pacific Northwest shows remains clear and powerful, more than forty years after the last notes rang out in the Hec Edmundson Pavilion in Seattle, WA. The release of these recordings fills in important parts of the official record. They show a band diving deeper into music, and if that’s driven in part by the need to escape from everything offstage, that simply underscores their ability to soar above even the most chaotic pressures when they performed. Time and age may have turned their stage into a crucible, increasingly removed from its genesis as an altar, as it had been in the Haight, but it was still capable of transforming them all, still capable of being a chalice inviting everyone to sip. - Nicholas G. Meriwether, A Key to Every Door: The Grateful Dead in the Pacific Northwest, 1973–1974
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Problem with old, can't remember shit. I guess I ordered the 6 lp collection AND the box set. Appears the LP's will be here today. :-( The box looks slated for Monday. Unless I'm still wrong! Oh, I too fell for the reveal. Looks very nice, I gonna need a bigger shelf. :-)
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@shaggyfraggle: Received my email on 9/6 @ 1809 central. Tracking status shows it left La Vergne, TN that night at 2055. My orders almost always arrive a couple days later than most being in the Kansas City area; however, it's currently expected for Monday delivery. Hope your status has updated by now. Kind of surprised there's still boxes available.
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Mine is still listed as "Not Shipped" as well. Has anyone received a shipping notice?
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Mine is still listed as "Not Shipped" as well. Has anyone received a shipping notice?
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I believe people have been receiving shipping notices starting mid-week. I received mine late Thurs. and slated for delivery on Tues. 9/11. I don't think you'll get a notice until it actually ships. Others including myself have gotten the notice AFTER receiving the physical product.
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… walked downstairs and there was UPS throwing package on porch. It was the LP collection. I laughed because the UPS man NEVER shows up BEFORE I go to work. Then here he is today dropping it off at noon! Bet the box will not be here before I leave for work:-)
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Couldn’t wait any longer...Spotify version is on and sounding Grate to these ears... UPS says Noon-4 tomorrow!
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...the Dead have been cleaning out their inventory over the past year or two from their own official website store.- No more Europe 72’ individual performances for sale - the Grateful Dead movie soundtrack/ 5 cd boxset is sold out. It took a long time and this past few months I had a feeling this package would sell out due to the release of the 73’-74’ Pacific northwest tour Box set which was officially released today. - and some more official releases that at the moment have slipped my mind. I’m getting old lol ha ha...I’ll just keep on smiling !!! :) Ps. I have a coupled sealed Europe 72‘ performances for sale if anyone’s interested. Send me a pm and maybe I can help a fellow sister or brother Grateful Dead fan. Any way, I hope everyone has a grateful weekend! Peace be with you all... :)
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I took the afternoon off and kayaked the river I live on.. We put on perfectly timed as to crawl out of the river and meet the UPS guy, hopeful for a delivery. Denied!!! Oh well.. sometime next week. No listening party for me, no 73/74 for me until the great box arrives. Keep the reviews coming should anyone get theirs.
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Have you attempted to download? I have, from three different networks. All fail. Every time. Disappointing to say the least. Why aren't they offering a download manager for a 42 GB download??
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BWhite, you should receive an email with a redemption code and a link. Enter the code at the link and then get another email with the download link. Not sure how that is adding any layer of security....you do have to enter your email address (which of course you know because you have access to the email account) and your zip code. So I guess the entire convoluted process does insure that you know your zip code.
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Mine downloaded in about half an hour without a hitch. Sounds as smooth and sweet as expected. Ought to hold me over until the actual box set arrives on Tuesday (though tracking shows it moving pretty quickly, so hoping for sooner).
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30 minutes requires about a 1 GB connection. Nice. I also tried over a 1 GB fiber link....failed every time. Frustrating.
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unintentional, but there it is.
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Jim, great list. I'm partial to May 77 over GSTL but can't quibble. But no July 78 box? I would put that above Warlocks and both S90s...
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One Kind Favor, For those who are lucky enough to be getting this box on Saturday, I and others would like to know the dimensions of this box. (*)Length x (*)Width x (*)Height. (*)is the measurement in inches or in metric. The total weight, including the packaging, should be about 8 lbs./3.6 kg. For me it's about storage, and because I like the physical real-life box and the art. I like many others will have to wait until Tuesday when the box should arrive.
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Thanks claney! July 78 definitely belongs in there.. I like it at least equal to the 77 boxes. I don't know how I left that one off. 30 lashings, starting... ouch!
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Just received an e-mail from Dead.net. Says they're hoping to get everyone a shipping notice by the end of the day on Monday. Downloaders - did you get artwork for the individual shows?
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