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still poking, but here(?)

When will it stop telling me about cookies, but then asking me tell it the email address everytime,,,, does it really know me?

I'm too am not a robot, yet (with defiant tone)

Gainsville?

I've always thought there should be one single "conversation" thread versus moving to the comment section of the lastest release. Downside to that is a never ending stream flow of "the conversation". Could get long :-), at least when you break down by product you have a timeline for the conversation and can say that was posted during "X".

This new way does seem to be burying it a bit,, I will continue my search.

If anyone sees when DP subscription is posted and you have my email, hit me,,,, don't want to miss :-(

enjoy

Yesterday I got tired of picking out buses, crosswalks, street lights, and hills just trying to log on to this site. That's not easy on your phone. Then I get on the site and I am not that happy with the changes. Dave's Picks is gone. All comments are buried under page after page. It seems to me the new site has more of a product selling orientation than a Grateful Dead community hub feeling. Perhaps familiarity with the new site will help over time.

The current Dave's is at the STORE and under SPECIAL EDITIONS SHOPS. Hope this helps. I think we're all going to be in the dark (no pun intended) for awhile.

Anyone wishing to log out will need to click on the POST A COMMENT bar. After that in the upper right hand corner to the right of the search bar either the shadow figure or the down arrow have a log out 'key'.

Hi all. I don't want to be one of those, is there something wrong with my disc guys, but I would like to know if anyone else has had the same experience as I. I can hear Lesh, Weir, and Kreutzmann (especially the bell on the ride symbol)--and even Keith comes thorough loud and clear--but Garcia's guitar is more-or-less MIA. When I can hear him, it sounds like he's in the lobby. At first, I just thought it was the opening show, but then I started sampling around, and the same phenomenon occurred. He comes through a little bit when it just a quartet, but hone the whole band is playing, forgetaboutit. For instance, on GSET from Portland '73, when Keith and Donna come in, Garcia is completely washed out. Is this a problem with the master tapes? I'm playing the discs through a McIntosh MVP991 > McIntosh C220 > McIntosh MC275 > Wharfdale Opus 2-1 speakers, which usually have a pretty good soundstage, where each instrument occupies its own defined spot in the field of play. I read some similar comments earlier onto board when the set first came out, but they didn't specifically address the Garcia guitar issue. Any help or comments would be appreciated. Thanks!

still looking for how to get here to read comments without posting a comment

:-)

you can also click/hover on your avatar at the upper right to reveal a menu that contains Logout, among other things.

Dennis, if you click on the comments tab and scroll to the bottom of the comments, there is a button that says "View More," click on that and it gives you more or less a way to view comments without posting.

Tommyboy - I believe what you are experiencing is the result of the original mix from the master reels. If you are hearing music at all.. you should be getting the digital sound. I have never heard of a batch of CDs that skew or dropout a part of the sound but play other parts pretty much ok. So long as you are not getting that digital aliens have taken over the world screeches and hiccups.. you are getting what was encoded on the CD.

Check the mix of the best sounding recording from archive.org (usually the Charlie Miller) and compare it to what you are listening to. I bet the dropouts are consistent.

I just finished my first listen to the entire box. There are parts where the mix isn't perfect this is not the case on every show/ every cd. All in all, this sounds good to me and is a nice upgrade from my old copies I pulled down from the archive long ago.

At least that's my take.. I think they got this sounding as good as they could considering the age and mix of the source recordings. I hope that helps.. without listening to your exact copy that's the best feedback I can give.

Until we get something prettier, bookmark this: http://www.dead.net/forum/pacific-northwest-73-74-complete-recordings- boxed-set Hey, sometimes the old ways are, if not best, still helpful... Onward! Thanks!

now where are my sunglasses, this page is so bright, I hafta wear shades

Marye~
I don’t know if you saw my post a couple days ago, but you cannot hover on a smart phone (iPhone 8+ / iOS 12). Besides that, clicking on the avatar photo or drop-down arrow is not working on a smart phone, either.

Background color ~
The two things in the comments sections that I thought made it feel personal and intimate (besides everyone’s warm and loving comments 😉) were the background color of the page and the font used for the subject of the comments. I can concede the font, but I think bringing back the familiar color of the background would make this new experience more comfortable. This white makes it feel like it’s just any other site.

Comments sections ~
I agree whole-heartedly with what many are saying about the comments sections on the product pages. I rarely post, probably only a dozen times or less since becoming a member of this site. But these “discussions” are the only reason I regularly come to this site. I know the site was only unavailable for a couple of days or so, but I really missed it. It’s something I like to check in on almost every day. It’s familiar user names like “marye” and many others that let me know I’m in the right place. I’m just not sure about the redecorating yet.

I've reported this.

I think I found the way here, getting ready for work right now, thanks for the hints.

You have not seen the last of me, this site will not win.

(I don't know how people are inserting emoji's,,, are you just using a cell phone? I'm strictly desktop man)

I only can do :-)

BAM! Website change.

Looks slick, but not very cozy for me.
Probably won't be around as much.
My dead.net friends, you know how to reach me!

Peace.Love.Dead.

Still enjoying the box. So far I've listened to this box from start to finish twice and I feel like I've just scratched the surface. This is definitely one of my favorite boxes.

Just finished my first listen.. digging it as well. I respect the criticism.. but hey, this is my sweet spot and there were many high points for me.

I say this a lot, but this release is worthy.

I also feel like there are quite a few from this era yet unreleased that will surpass this one. It's a period rich in experimentation and improvisation where, with the exception of 1974, very little has been released. On that note, I think much of the 74 material in this box was stronger (at least on the first listen) then some of the 73 material released. Goes to show they are saving some mighty fine stuff for tomorrow's best ever box. Cheers to that.

Does anyone know how to send or check PM's in the new world order?

Also.. using Windows 10, the hover over the Avatar thing does not open up any menus and the little down arrow to the right is non functional too.. so you folks using phones to access this site are not crazy..

Yes, tone down the white too.

I bet a few of us could put together a ten bullet point list of items that would greatly improve things without being a bunch of whining freaks.. change that.. without being a bunch of whiners.

Well, this is going to take some getting used to...

Hey MDJim, or should I say MDJIM, when using my laptop, if I place the cursor over the upper right hand link where the avatar picture is a list of links comes up, including a link to messages. This messages link takes me to previous PMs. I haven't sent any yet, so I can't answer that part of the question.

It's odd seeing everyones user name in all caps.

That seems to be working for me now too.. but it wasn't over the weekend. Progress.. Thanks Charlie.

I just want to let TPTB know that the avatar photo link is now working on the iPhone 8+. Thanks for the effort!

I'll let the tech folks know.

in the upper right hand corner is working now. Onward and upward, I always say!

I know it's been put up here numerous times,but I need Dr. Rhino's number or e-mail please.
All four discs from 6-22 will not even play. Not one f'n note. Started in on disc one from 6-26 and it wll not play either.
Before I waste more of my time on what is obviously a VERY FLAWED & EXPENSIVE product I would just like to cut to the chase and see if I can get a full replacement.

Any help would be appreciated.
This is the last time I will be buying anything from these guys again,but I need this fixed.

Testing new site profile....

I've passed this to the Doc. So sorry for the trouble.

Just want to post a little love for the first Seattle show on the box (6/26/73). Portland 74 is, well Portland 74; other shows have their bits (Seattle 74's 46-minute PITB; the PITB with proto-FOTM snippet at Vancouver 73). But I'm inclined to vote for the He's Gone > Truckin' > TOO > Bobby McGee > TOO > Sugar Mag from Sea 73 as my favorite stretch of the whole set. What a bonanza.

Thank You
:o)

Where I worked for 36 years was a large 100+ acre multi department facility with 100s of employees. For years the employee cafeteria was a meeting place where people from different departments would gather and bond over a hot meal served by a smiling fellow employee. Some years ago management "modernized" the employee cafeteria by getting rid of the cooks and servers with brand new food vending machines, a fresh coat of paint, tv screens, WiFi, and charging stations. No one eats there anymore. They just walk through, buy what they want, and return to their work station. The social element that had made going to "The Pit" such a pleasure had been removed. Hoping this isn't the same thing happening here.

One has to admire someone who can stick with a job for 36 years. I have never managed more than 12 years. 🤤

Yes, when I first heard this box I said the same thing, Where's Jerry? All three of the 73 shows he is missing or just barely there. It does get better for the 74 shows but still , not great. I can relate to your stereo system, I bet that baby kicks some serious butt. Mac is the way to listen to the Dead. When I was in the service, we had money to burn so we all bought killer stereos (early 70's) and out of all of them I heard, the Mac was the cleanest most defined sound. Beats them all, so it's not your stereo or your ears, it is the recording and it's limitations. Someone said that maybe they turned everyone else up so they could hear themselves, trying something new, whatever the reason, but Bobby, Phil and Billy are very present and sometimes Keith, but Jerry is way, way down in this mix, at least for the 73 shows. Sounds that way on my Nak TA-4A thru Altec Bolero speakers, Nak CD player too.

Campaigns, thanks for the comment on the '73 Truckin' medley. If that's someone's favorite stretch, I have to give it another listen. I was so blown away by the 26 minute Truckin' => Jam from the other '73 show, and so bummed about Jerry's lack of presence on a lot of the '73 stuff, that I've been passing this one by. Will have to revisit tinight.

Great segue into my comment to Unkle Sam - the lacka Jerry in the 1973 shows seems to come and go, so there are some tunes that I find are not terrible, but some truly hurt when he's not audible. I feel your pain man. I'd be a real curmudgeon about it all if '74 was like that too, but those 3 shows are among the best sounding of the whole year to my ears. So you know what I do - on my drive to work I turn the balance toward the left channel so I can hear him better. Helps a little. Until you then can't hear Keith.

Oh you have to be kidding me - this robot question keeps popping up while I'm typing, so I end up hitting a link to something else (cell phone). F'ing brilliant.

Marye - I've tried contacting you via PM which didn't work. Can I ask for your assistance for getting replacement discs for the PNW Box Set. I emailed Doc Rhino 4 weeks ago and was sent a reply on 9/23 saying the replacements would be coming. I've received nothing as of today 10/23. Can you help? I need replacement discs for the following:

1. 6/22/73 - Disc 3

2. 5/19/74 - Disc 1

3. 5/21/74 - Disc 2

Thanks for your help,
Dave Strang

I'm in the same boat as Dave Strang, emailed Dr. Rhino about a month ago or more, received an email saying a replacement disc will be sent out, then nothing since then. I am guessing that they had a large number of discs to replace and are just behind schedule, but it is getting to be kind of a lengthy delay in making things right. Fortunately I am just waiting for disc #5 and I am still hoping they make it right, even if it has not happened yet.

I'm having issues with PMs, so just do this for the moment and I will pass this to the Doc. Thanks!

Finding threads are very difficult. And once you find them it does not look good especially on my phone. May only have to use this site on a desktop going forward.

Also just noticed I have been assigned an avatar. Would love to have my original one that I uploaded. Oh well

Anyone else missing their Inbox messages?

Howdy, folks! I've had perfect success sending Marye a PM with my order number and the specific disc numbers that I needed replaced from the PNW set. Response was quick and I received my replacements in just a few days. Once the sites issues are resolved with PM's, I suggest that route for those having trouble reaching Dr. Rhino. Good luck!

I could have sworn there was a comment page on Dave's Picks 28 but I don't see it now.

Try https://www.dead.net/forum/daves-picks-volume-28-capitol-theatre-passai… – takes you straight to 'Comments' without unnecessary clicks.

Nice packaging and all...but the sound quality is very very sub-par. Jerry's vocals are virtually non-existent in many cases. Can't hear the guitar. I see now many others have similar complaints. Is Rhino actually replacing discs? This is the last box set I'll buy if this is a sign of things to come. I've purchased others and they've all been great. What the heck happened with this set? Very discouraging.

Parabolaus - I'm sure the problem with PMs will be resolved but I wanted to let Marye know about the discs as well as the problem with the PMs. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

my PMs are working now! Long version is that the Doc is busily sending out replacement discs, so if you need some, send me a PM and we'll get on it. Thanks!

The Doc is investigating, please keep the reports coming.

i have listened to 90% of this release, and have no issue at all with the volume/mix, no scratches, no skips, etc.

just awesome, awesome music.

great box set.

I will now do the Church Lady superior dance.

i am really getting sick of the captcha thing.

"click all zits until there are none left."

three minutes later, "I guess you are not a robot."

I agree, the mix is spotty in places. But, that is how it very likely is on the master tapes. It shouldn't be from a cd/digital defect.

On a slightly related note, headphones vs. sound systems provide vastly different listening experiences. A lot of times with headphones you hear nuances that aren't apparent on a sound system. Of course, you cannot rattle the walls though with phones and that is part of the fun.

P.S. I haven't yet checked if my discs are scratched up. I just ripped, tagged and have listened to random portions of shows. Perhaps, I should get on that...

I absolutely love this release. Outstanding