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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Thin
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    you wrote: "I just can't get behind what seems like renting access to music or movies when I can own them outright on a disc."

    Charlie, this is the hurdle that everybody has to get over in a technology shift. The mentality has always been about ownership.

    But gradually, people are going to streaming. Why? Let's say you spend $200 on a few CD's and special releases annually. But then you realize a service (Apple Music or whatever) costs $10 a month ($120/yr = 80 savings) for ALL of them PLUS ALMOST ALL THE OTHER MUSIC IN THE WORLD. You'll go broke trying to buy everything you want "a la carte". The streaming model is coming together folks, and it makes sense. Stay tuned.

    Buying DVD's and Blue Ray right now is like buying 8 track tapes in 1979. I did it! And 2 years later I felt like an idiot. And sure they work great if you' stay in 1979 forever. But then suddenly it's 1983 and YOU'RE the guy/gal still proudly "collecting" 8-track tapes while everyone goes to CD! Don't be that guy.

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    Good Evening Rockers!

    I've been keeping up with the E72 shows, so that's a good sign, but to be honest, it's always the May Dave's Picks that derails me.

    There's a huge gap between the 4/17 Tivoli show and the Rockin' The Rhein show of 4/24, so I've been wearing the shit out RTR. The Dark Star => Wharf Rat => Sugar Magnolia is really just something else altogether. I keep playing it over and over, trying to figure out the Dark Star. This medley is one of my favorite extended Dead pieces of all time.

    I think tomorrow I'll move on to Hundred Year Hall.

    Now it's time to switch over from E72 to something else. I'm avoiding 1970 for now, to keep that period pristine for "the arrival". Maybe I'll go with that great Playing In The Band from DaP 18. Or the DaP 17 second set medley would be kind of tasty - there's a really good Eyes of the World => China Doll on that one. Not to mention the WRS => Jam. Or do I just Go To Nassau and rock out to that killer Jack Straw => Franklin's Tower opening combo......

    CD guy here. Think of how boring release day would be with nothing to open.

  • Gewee
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    GRRRRRR. How do you sell out…

    GRRRRRR. How do you sell out a Dave's Picks before you even ship it? Go out on a limb and produce 30,000 instead of 20,000. if you don't order it the day it is released, you can't get it. I'm tool old to chase this shit. I'll just download a bootleg, although I'd rather buy it from you. Only, you won't allow that to happen. Wisen up guys.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    CDs, Video in the current era

    FTW and Dead & Co have made it possible for people who got into the music after Jerry died to experience the songs live.
    It’s not the same, but they never saw the real thing, and don’t have a standard to compare to. It’s still better than what else is on tour these days.
    This has brought in new recruits who also are buying releases (and scalpers too).
    Seems that CD sales, at least, will continue for a while.

    But I would still like some video too.

  • dreading
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    Whatever else is going on in the outside world, CDs are expanding in this niche market. Blu Ray disc sales might do ok here if the source quality were good, but as noted, all of the worthy candidates are available already. Sunshine Daydream, Movie Soundtrack, whatever else.

    CDs are on the rise here, and will at least plateau at 20K for awhile, if not rise some more next year. The completely unique selling opportunity of having so many otherwise unavailable shows in the Vault gives Rhino a marketing advantage to do the Limited Edition thing and collect $100 from almost 20K subscribers a year. It will take many more years for that number to go back down to 12,000, where it started. If 12,000 was good in 2012 then it will still be good 5 years from now, should the instant sellouts cease. It's the only place you can get it, and it's on CD in limited quantities. There would have to be a huge offer from some streaming company for Rhino to turn their back on this marketing schema. And I doubt that's going to happen, because the music still has to be engineered before it's ready for release.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Videos

    I’m not always in front of the TV while they are playing, but I can still hear them.
    Being able to see the TV from the kitchen is also key, you can listen while you cook and occasionally look at the TV.

    I watch less than 10 Hollywood movies per year, and rarely current releases.
    I try to watch Strange Brew and Big Lebowski at least once a year, both of which I have on DVD.

    But concert video, I watch that a lot.
    Just watched Hard Working Americans - First Waltz this weekend.

    I have Sunshine Daydream on DVD and Blu Ray, the BR has higher resolution audio, which is reason right there to put stuff out on BR.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Live streams - sometimes (if it’s free), I think that the only time I paid for a live stream was FTW 6-27-15 and it kept freezing/buffering.
    My BR/DVD player doesn’t freeze/buffer. I also don’t need an internet connection to watch discs.

    I did watch the two WSP free streams this weekend at Sweetwater 420 Fest. No freezing with that.

    I do watch YouTube concert videos on my TV (using the home theater for sound) to check out other bands besides GD. The recent discussions of Spirit sent me looking for video and the Rockpalast show was great. Then Daverock and Simonrob informed us that a bunch of Rockpalast shows were on DVD, which some people were happy to know about.

    As far as GD, yes I want video on physical media, just like the audio.

    Yes, a lot of people in the general population stream. In fact, several companies are betting big time on that being the future, as well as streaming audio.

    How many people on this site want future Dead releases to be stream only?

    Jim,
    The John Deere is looking good. You must have parked it indoors over the winter and then gave it a wash/wax.

  • stoltzfus
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    it's hard to find the TIME to sit down to enjoy a show on video, and with my two non-Deadhead loved ones at home...

    gimme CDs because I can take them in my car, to various places in the house, etc.

    I would love to revisit the DVD of Closing of Winterland, but I would need the house to myself for 6+ hours.

    Someday, my lads...someday.

  • 80sfan
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    I think I'm in the minority, but I have a really hard time watching the dead in concert on a tv screen. The Grateful Dead movie was really cool but I have a hard time lasting long with videos like Alpine or any of the Meet Up events. Couple songs at the most. I can't even do couch tour. Different strokes I guess...

    Thin and others are correct - most people aren't buying DVDs or CDs. People are streaming their shows and music, choosing to listen or watch what they want, when they want it. If Dave is talking about different formats, he almost certainly is referring to streaming, whether it be on your phone, computer or TV.

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    Nice little show from this day...

    https://archive.org/details/gd1986-04-22.sbd.miller.34767.flac16/gd86-0…

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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...set-List is primo! I’m in love! 🙏❤️😎

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Guess the mystery will hold until May 1. Can't wait for this release!

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When I was a mere schmo of 19...dem were da daze...

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Should be fantastic. Love the artwork too......(But still hate this new site. Impossible to post or find comments on your phone. It's a nightmare. I miss this place. I just happen to be in front of a computer now)......Enjoy the holiday weekend

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I have the subscription. If it's not sold out, get it now.

Love the artwork and look forward to hearing this. A magic era.

Too soon to request an 80's show for Vol. 31 and 90's show for 32?

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30. (!).

Wow.

This is good. This Dark Star is one for The Ages.

Sixtus

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I say for #31: 6/18/83 and 6/20/83

for #32: 5/27/93

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It's never to early to ask for an 80's show. But I'm a little greedy. 3 83 shows in a mini box would keep mr. Jones away from my door for a while

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....seems like just yesterday that the Dave's series was announced. Oh, oh what I want to know. where does the time go?

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Can’t wait to get my furry paws on it. You got it right pops ,those were some good old days.

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Seems the t-shirt for sale is the cover of the bonus disc. Interesting artwork, also gives an idea how small the Fillmore East was. That third disc is gonna get a lot of play at my house and in my car I imagine.

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This is the Dead at their first "Peak". Amazing stuff. And the recording is pristine.

Love the art for this one. Glad to see something different and original.

“Incredible variety of releases and format” Dave you evil bastard LOL! We haven’t even received this one yet and I’m already jonesin’ for more! Format variety? Like perhaps some video....

COVER ART: I’m with thin, I like this cover especially because it’s not the bearded skeletons again....not saying any of that was bad, just think there is so much more iconography to work with and the skeletons have been done to death, yuck yuck, imho that is....sounds like we might get some era variety also? Philly 89? Summer 85? More 79? 91?
Folks saying Warfield 80 might be right, he’s obviously been poking around there....but what about Gainesville!

Yee-gads, I guess in the mean time we’ll just have to settle for some 70 Fillmore 😉 were so spoiled, thanks Dave

EDIT: perhaps the most interesting tell is that their working with Bears people and what that might entail......”possibilities are frightening”

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The art work is growing on me on this one, but that disc three looks amazing.

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Short Seaside chat for Dave. Of course this one should have come out a long time ago....

No real clues on the next box.☹️

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I concur, guessing what's on this bonus disc is going to be fun. That third disc with the dark star is going to get some big time play here. Some of the tunes from 1/3 are on disc 1 and 2 so I am going to figure the big jams from both early and late shows will be on the bonus disc, oh goody, ps put me down for a couple of those limited run t shirts.

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Sixy - That's what I thought when I turned 30. I'm 45 now. : ))

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either an 80's Ventura box or an 80's Greek Berkeley box....

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This seems like it might be pretty interesting.:

https://pitchfork.com/news/grateful-dead-graphic-novel-announced/

Anyone remember back in the day, the Grateful Dead comix? I recall them coming in the printed newsletter that folded out, was on beautiful stock paper, and had lots of colors and all the new products of the day. Like Dick's Picks one haha.

Sixtus

P.S. Wedeocu....true dat. 30 seems like both yesterday and forever ago! Also makes me wonder if there is ever any endgame number in store for us with Dave. 30 is great. Imagine double triple quadruple that? Who will live that long haha.

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Just like others have noted, the skeleton art has become a bit stale and cliched so this is a welcomed change of art direction. The other covers are great but the skeleton motif becomes staid after a while. The Wizard of Oz cover was a nice touch on whichever release it was on.

Now onto that MSG NYC September 1979 box set. Dave that one will sell-out instantly.

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I dont know Sixy, I think I can make it to at least Dave's Picks 110 or maybe 120.

Anything after that is all bonus material for sure!

Looks like Rhino has found the sweetspot. That point that people that want it can have it while keeping the cost down by not succumbing to those that think Rhino is in business for them by keeping everything made in stock

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I tried to pre-order one (on an iPad) and got the message

“Selected required options are not available.”

Just seeing if it was sold out, I wasn’t going to actually buy it because I subscribed.

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Not sold out, I was able to put one in the cart.

100 total hits in the book, pre-orders only.
You have to figure out where to lick, with no 2 hits adjacent to each other.
Basically a reCRAPTCHA exam for the tongue. The problem is that by the time you realize that you found a hit, you could have found 5 hits.

But seriously folks, the real question is what unreleased songs are going to be on the bonus vinyl for preorders.

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just please don't put out 8/3/69 at the Great Highway. that show sucked balls so hard I didn't get through it and I deleted that show first and only time I felt the need to delete a grateful dead show

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21K OR 22K for 2020??? PS jamming 4/17/1971 Dillon Gym from Princeton.... missed the anniversary by a day but in a mood for some Pig Pen!!!.... have a good night everyone... bob t

Only clue given was Alligator, and they very wisely used the key covers as filler on disc 2, and the rule about originals or phblic domain leads me to think the bonus disc will look thus:
Cumberland Blues, Alligator> Drums> Alligator> (Caution Jam tracked?) Feedback, Mason's Children, That's It For The Other One> Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band> Black Peter, Dire Wolf

Think that's around 80 min; Senor Norman cuts a lot of the inevitable tuning that is left in on Archive, so who knows how much he can cut, one of the songs may not make it. Figure UJB> Black Peter over the early show encore version, and Mason's because Dave has put out most of them, and I could see another double Mason's, for those who hate and loathe and despise it, at least it isn't a triple shot of it. And not sure if he goes with another China Rider. Would not object at all to that.

And I wonder if Dave's mention of working with the Stanley family means this is more Bear's Sonic Journals type of release than Houseboat Tape continuation. Though, he also mentioned the Dave's that were part of that stash, 6 (2/2/70, 12/20-21/69 with bonus), 10 (12/10-11/69 with bonus), 19 (1/23-24/70). Either way, talk of talks with the Stanleys plus the returned Bettys make it a great time to be a Deadhead, and a boom time for any credit card company who gives cards to Deadheads.

Really excited for this release!

....the ONLY whiskey I can drink straight. Good call.
Also a good call, we might get TWO Cumberlands in this release! Blessed 🙏 indeed.

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....the Mason's Children from 1.2 is the one released on Fallout From The Phil Zone. The Philster is doing a one off in Vegas in three weeks. Here's the lineup.
https://hardrockhotel.com/las-vegas-entertainment/joint-phil-lesh-2019…
....looking tasty af. Can't complain.
Note the age limit of 6+. At The Joint. Wow.

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I snorked hard when i read that

If I remember correctly, the bonus disc can only be made up of GD composed songs. Reason being the bonus disc is a 'gift' so to speak and Rhino is financially responsible for producing it. They don't want to pay royalties for the cover songs on a giveaway disc. I can't say I blame them. The end of disc 2 has some of the cover songs from 1/3/70 and what cover songs they are.
Someone stated in an earlier post Dave had mentioned 'Alligator' so I'd say that's a safe bet for the bonus disc; Deadlists times it at approx. 25 minutes so there's 50-55 minutes left for other GD songs/jams. We could see some prime music from 1/3/70.

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Looking at the set list, this Daves 30 looks like a bridge linking the 60s to the 70s. It must have been one of T.C.s last gigs, and one of the last times the Dark Star-St. Stephen-Eleven suites featured. The disc also includes a generous helping of the more country rock style the band would focus on during the first couple of years of the new decade. More country, less psych-although epic journeys were still made, the focus was beginning to change-and this set demonstrates that quite nicely.

Also nice to see hippychick back, lubricious as ever.

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