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  • heathaafeathaa
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    Thanks Richard
    thanks for sharing that.the night i posted that i went to a stepstudy i go to on wed.and it was Trad.12.in fact i shared about this at mtg,leval,and i did do a 10th on it w/my sponser.so i no i was in the wrong.and more came out of it "that needed to be inv.so thanks for sharing,and 12 stepping me. peace,heathaafeathaa
  • heathaafeathaa
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    hey Steav_o
    ive been wanting to get back here to post this to you .i just want to say that i took what was said out of context,and what was said absolutly,is not my buisness.and im going to say again i was wrong and i may have caused some harm here infact ,by giving feedback based on my experiense.i'll mind my own buisness,sorry for the harms caused. peace,heathaafeathaa
  • lopez
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    Hey Hippie Chuck
    We all struggle from time to time. Dont forget to call your sponser, and find a meeting.Keep coming back! peace.
  • Steve-O
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    Thanks Richard
    Didn't realize this was a club I HAD to join. My life is my problem or blessing whichever I CHOOSE to make it. Peace and take care of yourselves!
  • gypsy soul
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    hey hippie chuck
    you know the deal-people, places, and things, man. do the right thing. it's okay, not one of us is perfect. i hope you have a lot of good support out there. we all have another drunk or high in us, but how many recoveries to we have in us???peace and good luck nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
  • hippiechuck
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    hey guys!
    HippieChuck-see that,i thoght i could have a fewonce in a while,now i am struggling.i think alot of you have got it just a little off.it doesnt matter what you share,how much you value your sobriety,or anything else like that...it is a god thing,you have to be right w/god...i know alot of people who did all the right things,were well respected for their time and wisdom,and guess what ,they too arent around sobriety today,some have died....alot of the people around would give me the cold shoulder when i slipped,and then it happened to them.i hope this doesnt make anyone mad,i am not tryin' to do that.i truly love you all.it dont matter,nobody has more than 1 day....peace n love-hippiechuck
  • hippiechuck
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    blind and dirty
    HippieChuck-got to tell ya',i was drinkin' on and off ,not too bad!i thought i was clean,havin' a few now and again......well now i am doin' it when i dont want to,that really sucks!i am connecting with old friends though,gonna give recovery another shot....anyone got garcia or allmans shows for discs and postage?...i'll check in if i have any new developments......
  • richard
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    Hey heathaafeathaa
    You might want to back off a little. Nobody is attacking you. As far as choice goes...Nobody ever held a gun to my head and made me drink or do dope. I never slipped and fell into a bottle, a pipe or a needle. I chose to do those things. I chose to do 'em over and over again. There were times when I felt like I had no choice, but I was wrong. Society doesn't owe me squat. If anybody owes, it is me. Maybe it was different for you, I don't know. But as a friendly suggestion, you may want to read up a little on the steps and traditions. Particluarly step 10 and tradition 12. Steve-O strikes me as a nice guy who was just trying to be friendly and supportive. Peace, Richard
  • heathaafeathaa
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    missed the point
    you did miss the point.that speaks volums.a real alcoholic/addict does not have a choice weather we drink/or put drugs in our body.we dont have a choice WE LOST IT!!society still does not educate on the disease.which takes many lives.a wharfrat is a sober head.that does not mean we use drugs or alcahol on ocassion or once in awhil.we canot put in or it sets a phenomonien of craving off for us.it is a deadly disease.im grateful you are one of the few that does not have this allergy.i almost died several times od had no clue ya think i woke up on day and said i think ill go od.this is a seriouse illness.most do not make it.i do not go in these on line "sober chat rooms "i thaught oh this will be cool,i once again learned do not negate intuition.im not tryin to be rude to you in fact when surffing other sites i enjoy you sharing.well peace,and i hope maybe i get the air cleared of bad energyi guess i figured out why their is hardly any new threads posted here.peace, heathaafeathaa
  • heathaafeathaa
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    tech problem 2 of kinda same.
    sorry their is two post on same thing first onis when i responded to you Steav_O i was heated.then they didnt put my post up so i wrote another one "calmned down",and posted it then they both got submited??? peace heathaafeathaa
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Band Grateful Dead Venue Tompkins Square Park Location New York, NY Date 6/1/67 - Thursday posters tickets, passes & laminates Comments Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:36:15 -0800 From: Mike Bobrik [nvbobrm@nv.cc.va.us] Subject: Old Set Lists Like your site. Was looking through the early set lists. and please add: 6/1/67 tompkins Square Park NY, NY. [Incomplete and in very approximate order]: Golden Road, Dancin' in the Streets, Midnight Hour, BIODTL, Schoolgirl, Cold Rain and Snow, Dew, Viola Lee. My first show. Thanks, MAB For a review see Ed Doherty's page: < http://www.winternet.com/~edoherty/ > Recordings Download Sources
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As someone sober for many years to me it's as the saying goes. To thine own self be true. If it makes your life better by stopping taking the most controlling substance this worlds known I say it is up to you. If you no your doing what's rite then your doing what's rite. Because it makes you more content when you put your head on the pillow at night with a clear conscious . For me I can't take any chances with any substances at all which includes booze for that matter also.
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Where is everyone meeting up for this? If nothing is setup, would anyone like to meet? I'd suggest we meet down under the pier, or by its pylons. We are Wharf Rats after all...9:30am daily? I don't see any other Barcelo Riviera Maya AA.
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A Grateful morning to all. I was wondering if there are still meetings at half time of Dead &Co. shows?
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Will there be a Wharf Rat group at Riverbend next week?
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This Wharf Rat is tryin to go. I'll find the meeting by hook or by crook!
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I had just checked in at the Wharf Rat table at the last show in Chula Vista. The guy that was sitting behind the booth said a girl had noticed the table on her way to the bar. She said I've only been sober a week! Glad you were here to remind me........ Don't know if she lasted through the show but ya never know, sometimes sobriety is measured in minutes....
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I'll check back here to let you know if I win the ticket lottery. I'll need a meeting. Years ago while staying in Playa Del Carmen I was walking down a side street and found an Alano Club. It was in Spanish which I;m not towell versed but I understood what they were sayun'. Traeted me like a long lost brother.
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Never saw the band. By the time I became an avid listener it was too late. Thus, not really a Wharf Rat as such... Just wanted to share that my listening to masses of Grateful Dead is a huge part of my sobriety. Wishing you all a blessed and sober day.

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but I think you'll find they're still at shows and you'd be welcome. People with a better clue, please say more.
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Heading to Hollywood for two days of the Dead in June. Looking for some good meetings on tuesday before the show.

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Hi-Ho friends and neighbors! CMHAZ -GoodAZDead here from Phoenix. Just celebrated 33 years of Drink & Dope-Free sobriety. It's never easy, but it does get easier. "Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right..."

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Now more than ever I love Wharf Rat. Each time I listen to it I learn somethung new about the song. What’s amazing about Wharf Rat is the community and deep sense of connection it has with so many people. When you are feeling low we are here for you. My favorite part- I’ll get up and fly away!

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I'll see if I can find out.
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Hello Friends- Big week/weekend ahead for Bay Area and was able at last minute to pic up a tix for final show: Now the big question: Will there be any W.Rats meeting up in person prior to or during the night of music? If so how would a person in recovery meet up? Have to say watching the thinking process prior to the show: IE: stay sober no matter what, etc. Thx for reply. Best- windysuisun