One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.
First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.
Understood Vguy
Once in a while a person's gotta vent
Stay alert, y'all. Stay alert.
And...you know... ;)))
Saw last three minutes of game
"Back to Tampa"
Hockey is the Energizer Bunny of sports
It keeps going and going and going...
Thanks guys....
....I'm breaking out some Good Ole Grateful Dead. Dave's 34. Jai-Alai Fronton. Feeling better. Yesterday was it's anniversary.
Hey VGuy
I browse through from time to time, and when I saw the Motown posts I couldn't resist taking a minute to encourage the acquisition and consumption of soul music in mass quantities. Here's a couple more - check out Gloria Jones' Tainted Love. Long before Soft Cell blew it up in with their cover of the tune with that total '80's sound, Gloria was throwing it down and spitting that song out with heat. Before there was a Yeezus, there was Isaac Hayes fantastic album Black Moses with the big, lush, sounds of his cover of Burt Bacharach's Close to You, sounds that envelope you like a warm pool of water. And then down the road, the Geto Boys sampled Isaac Hayes' Hung Up On My Baby for their track My Mind Is Playing Tricks On Me, and nothing against the Geto Boys, but the riff from Hung Up On My Baby makes that tune. Before NWA was telling people to Express Yourself, Charles Wright was saying it the first time, along with playing that funky groove that really makes both songs pop. There is always a risk you will find yourself drifting off into disco territory, but if hearing Donna Summer moan Love to Love You Baby for 17 minutes doesn't do something for you, I'm sorry, 'cause you're missing out. Mmm... soul, good for what ails you, just as potent a mood lifter as the Grateful Dead.
Gloria Jones....
....I recognize that name! Good stuff.
Music heals wounds. Auditory bliss.
My dogs sense my apprehension.
Stoltz with the jokes....
....Loving Cup. Rolling Stones. Covered by Phish multiple times.
Rock on 🤘
Later, At The Stanley Cup Factory
(Applying white-out to lettering previously chiselled on Cup) C - O - L - O - R - A - D - O (dab dab dab) A -V - A - L (continues to cover letters)
Oro - H-e-double hockey sticks of a game! I still say your guys have this. The energy level was incredible. Kadri, though, is a loose cannon, and I keep thinking he is going to go Tuco at the wrong time, and cost the Avs big.
Trivia - Gloria Jones - American soul singer - of Tainted Love fame was mentioned earlier in the Motown discussion. She was an “unofficial” member of Brit glam band T-Rex at their height of fame, and was a committed partner to the late Marc Bolan (they had a son together), and Ms Jones was driving the night of Bolan’s fatal car accident.
Another guy, along with Zappa, who I never “got”, was Springsteen. The high school friend that turned me on to the Dead way back early 70s went and saw Springsteen at a local college field house roughly 1975, before all the fame, and Creem and Rolling Stone were starting to notice this guy, and he said “Watch out - this guy is really something.” I never saw it myself.
Soulful Dress
Charlie3 - great posts, cheers! I came across Southern Soul before Motown, as it goes. The first time was through buying an L.P. of Jimi Hendrix Live at Monterey. Only one side was Hendrix, and the other was Otis Redding at the same festival. I much, much preferred this to the Motown that was appearing in the charts at the time-about 1975, I think. It seemed almost rock n' roll to me at the time, and the two slow songs stopped me in my tracks.
But I didn't follow up the interest until about 7 years ago. I like blues and rock n'roll from Memphis, and reading books about them tipped me into the next chapters, which were focussed on Stax. A few years ago I saw, on separate occasions, Booker T. Jones and Steve Cropper in London and I got those three box set cd compilations of Stax/Volt singles around that time. Another great compilation is a 3 cd set called "Take Me To The River." The names you mention - Curtis Mayfield, Isaac Hayes...I am just getting into them really. But I seem to like the 60's music more than the 70's. "I Feel Love", by Donna Summer is a great record. God knows why I liked punk more than this at the time.
I know nothing whatsoever about Sugar Pie DeSanto...but there is a great track by her on a compilation I have called " Chess Soul - A Decade of Chicago's Finest" called "Soulful Dress".
Mr Ones - I have mostly been buying these Complete Motown Singles boxes from Discogs UK, second hand. The prices vary greatly - the 1966 one was the most expensive - about £90.00. The 1963 one was only £30.00, though-and I got that one new from Amazon UK. Usually they are about £50.00.
The only Zappa I really like is "We're Only In It For The Money". Then "Freak Out" a long way behind that one.
shut up and play your guitar
a great Zappa collection and without the funky lyrics, he was truly a great guitar player. Thanks everyone for the well wishes, cost wasn't anything but a knife in the back....and more of the same. The ass hole who laid me off didn't even have the balls to tell me why he was replacing me, with two people who have no experience, for the same money. That's ok, the final insult was when he said he "might" call me back if things don't work out with the new hires or if one of them goes on vacation or if ..... Monkeys fly out my butt. That was the final straw, I told him that I ain't no flunky for his suckass friends and hung up on him. I'm 68 soon to be 69, Fuck work. I think I'll try welfare for a while, hell, why not, the country is going to hell and if the ones who did this yesterday have their way, we will all be slaves, made to breed, for their slave farms. They need the poor to do their dirty work, so, more poor ignorant folks, the better for them, so keep them barefoot and pregnant and stupid, the rights way of thinking will sink us all.
Yes! Shut up and play your guitar!
That is worthy Zappa listening
Switching gears....
....going to see Primus tonight. Rescheduled from 2020 due to covid. I've never seen them and my expectations are high.
The Liars Club
Favorite posters outside the supreme court yesterday.
Not that I would support such violins on television (Miss Emily Latella, aka Gilda Radner)
"Off With Their Dicks" and
"Dismember The Court"
Ouch!
And back to regular scheduling: Do we usually get an announcement of some kind before DaP43? I'm jonesin'.
I Feel Love
You are correct, DaveRock, Donna Summer's I Feel Love is great, if I'm in the mood for some Donna it's either that track or Love to Love You Baby more often than not.
Sugar Pie DeSanto is awesome, one of my favorites. Soulful Dress is a great tune and she has a lot more just as good, or in a couple cases even better. I picked up a couple of CD's by her and Go Go Power, the complete Chess Singles is a smoker from start to finish, the better of the two that I picked up. Soulful Dress, Do I Make Myself Clear, In The Basement (with Etta James) and Mama Didn't Raise No Fools stand out in my memory at the moment as highlights of that collection. Do I Make Myself Clear is absolutely on fire.
And, yeah, the Stax boxes, the first three were an early acquisition for me in my soul collection, but there is also a fourth Stax Box - Rarities and the Best of the Rest - that covers some soul rarities, some gospel, and some of the other stuff released on Stax and related labels that ranges outside the soul category. That fourth one is not quite as consistently good as the first three, but it does have a few things that got in my head and my completist nature left me no choice but to pick it up.
For something from this century that sounds like it could have been released in the 1970's, check out Charles Bradley, particularly the track Ain't It a Sin. If you can watch him do Ain't It a Sin online on the you post it video site and not want to pick up some of his stuff I would be surprised. Started checking Charles out when I saw an article about his soulful cover of Black Sabbath's Changes, good stuff, cool version of the song.
And Curtis Mayfield, started checking him out when a friend suggested the Superfly soundtrack, and all it took was the song Pusherman to get me seeking out more Curtis, not to mention my dawning realization that the HBO show the Wire had a bunch of Curtis playing at various points and I dug it. Give Pusherman a listen and see if you can sit still. There's a good box set - Curtis, Keep On Keeping On, Curtis Mayfield Studio Albums 1970-974, a good way to get all his albums at once for a great price. The HBO show the Sopranos also had a bunch of soul tunes scattered throughout, I'm still looking to track down a copy of the song Sally Go 'Round the Roses by the Jaynettes. Or rather, I just picked up a copy this morning, further support for the hypothesis that I have an online shopping problem and a near pathological need to expand my CD collection.
I'll try and shut up now, but once I start down the soul rabbit-hole I can't stop.
That’s why they play the game
To quote the great Chris Berman!
What a game! Now that was sports worth watching.
The outcome does not surprise me. The Bolts are like a bad case of the clap that just won’t go away, and I mean that as a complement!
AJS: well said as usual. I agree. Pretty much sums it all up.
MIKE: LOL. and yeah, Kadri’s “enthusiasm” can sometimes be a little nerve racking.
PF: love the cup jokes etc, and the energizer bunny, hell last night I felt like I was doing speed!
Dark-Star: good to see ya xxoo. Sounds like your the drunk yelling from the arm chair. I’m just showing solidarity for my fellow Americans, and VGUY, STOLZTY, PANCHO, PT BARNUM etc.
VGUY/PRIMUS: will they be doing Farewell to Kings? Either way should be cool! Have Fun!
CHARLIE: cool stuff, thanks for the good read! Brought up so many awesome aural memories. You guys ever check out Soul or Acid Jazz (prefer Soul as Acid is not really appropriate). Charles Earland, Donald Byrd, Idris Muhammad, Melvin Sparks, Deodato, Jimmy Smith, Dr Lonnie Smith, Grover Washington Jr. (before he went all Kenny G) and so many more. Fits right next to Curtis the Superfly Pusherman etc, GOOD SHEET MON!
Lots of crossover between Soul, Motown Jazz etc. I always felt much of what Merl and Jerry were up to fit in this category. And Disco is perhaps cousins to all this? I like to make my own sorta best of CDs, and I made a killer 2 disc version for a friends young daughter who loved disco. But we like it too, it can be fun stuff, hell folks used to dis The Bee Gees but if you really check out their music it’s pretty solid (and those boys burned like chimneys. My cousin worked on their studio and said no burned like the BeeGees) and I Feel Love, that was my opening track! And what a great stoner song. Put that on a big stereo set up with good stereo imaging, get prepped ; ) , and sit in the sweet spot and check it out. It sounds amazing and that cool auto pan stuff is right outta Healy and Mickeys bag of tricks.
Ah yes, Music, sweet, sweet music, the antidote to what ails ya and the ills of the world.
As Mr Ones would say, Music is the best! Crazy how much great music there is…
CONEKID: almost forgot ya. I can understand your ongoing feud. Took us awhile to get over the Wings lol.
And as a life long Buffalo fan for good or for Ill, it’s still hard to like the Dolphins (sorry vguy) Dallas, and I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to root for the Patsies, even without Brady and Gronk!
I’m just curious, is because of the overall war that was that great rivalry or perhaps just the Lemieux issues?
I’m trying to remember, I’ll have to look for that show you mentioned.
Next box set/ Sugar Pie DeSanto & Etta James
Saw Sugar Pie DeSanto and Etta James both play at the S.F. Blues Festival, also saw Etta James play with the Dead in 1982. Next box is gonna be something from 90,91, 92, possibly Winterland March 1977. I hope its something from 1969/1970 with acoustic material included.
Soul Jazz, Acid Jazz
My exposure to soul jazz or acid jazz is limited and mainly consists of listening to Fusion FM hosted by Roy Ayers in Grand Theft Auto IV in Liberty City, not sure if that's exactly on point. Nice stuff, a mellow, jazzy, psychedelic vibe to some of it as I recall. Mister Magic by Grover Washington Jr is on my list of future acquisitions, maybe some Roy Ayers as well, who knows once I get started in that direction, just haven't picked it up yet. Hopefully Mister Magic is before the transition to Kenny G. that you describe, Oro. Grand Theft Auto in its various iterations actually turned me on to a bunch of great stuff on the various radio stations. Cool to just drive around listening to the radio, sparking the occasional police chase or just looking for hidden stuff. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. Not a bad option as far as an option for a time vacuum. You know you're hitting the GTA a little hard when you start to notice all the unique stunt jumps when you're driving around in the real world. (GTA fiends may get it, the rest of you will just have to play the game excessively, then take a drive in the real world.)
A Farewell To Kings....
....yea. Primus will be playing it. Contemplating taking some fungus along 🤔.
FTK, Soul Jazz
VGUY, that should be awesome. I read about it in Bass Player magazine. Interviews with both Les Claypool and Geddy Lee. They asked Geddy what he thought of Les trying to do this and Geddy teasingly said he was nuts!
Hopefully they’ll be a big brown beaver sighting?
CHARLIE: interesting how you heard of SJ. Even more so how many of us come to certain music, fascinating really.
I heard if it after reading an article by Michael Chabon in Rolling Stone about his at the time new book Telegraph Ave (which I liked), but in this article he gets into this Soul Jazz that I’d never heard of, and I’ve been into lots of Jazz fir quite some time. It’s hard to pinpoint and like many styles or genres it casts a wide range: from syrupy string laden Mizel brothers productions all the way to more standard Jazz played by more recognizable names. The sweet spot to me is very much like what Merl and Jerry do on say 9/1/74, or the recent GarciaLive Vol 18, or on Fire Up and Heavy Turbulence etc. I like the oft used description of “Jazz with a backbeat”.
I have maybe 2-3 dozen albums but would say these are good ones to start with:
Donald Byrd: Black Bird
Charles Earland: Black Talk and Leaving this Planet with Freddie Hubbard and Joe Henderson
Idris Muhammad: Power of Soul (title track is awesome Hendrix cover), and a (2 for 1) of Black Rhythm Revolution, and Peace & Rhythm.
Deodato: Prelude
Grover Washington Jr.: I like Inner City Blues and Mister Magic the best. Earth Tones off Magic is nice groovy mellow almost new age like? One of my favorites of his. I think Magic is a good first choice. Soul Box is pretty good too. I’d say ya might not like all the tracks on all the albums depending how your pleasure tends, but if you made an 80 minute best of from the three you’d have a super cd. If that helps? But I’d advise anyone interested to check out stuff online first.
There’s a good series of compilations out called the Legends of Acid Jazz that has some good treatments of many of the main cats, like genre guitar go to’ Melvin Sparks, and Leon Spencer, George Benson dabbles around the Soul Jazz edges. Jimmy Smith Back at the Chicken Shack is old school, and Dr Lonnie Smith is another of many keyboard/organists. One of the cool things is how like jazz, so many of the main dudes play on each other’s albums.
Many more but those are good starts.
The cool thing is it’s easy to Segway into things like MMW: End of the World Party and Uninvisble, and even on to the Beastie Boys, yes those Beasties Boys: The In Sound From Way Out and The Mix Up. I think of Curtis/Superfly as another cousin to all this. Herbie Hancock Head Hunters fits too.
To me SJ is like another kind of jazz fusion. Not the scorching Miles or Return To Forever etc, which is more rock like to my ears, but like a funky soul stew of jazz, soul and rock. Perhaps like some Motown cats played jazz?
As I say, sometimes hard to pin point, and certainly not for everyone, but to me it’s like the Garcia/licorice story.
Not everyone will like it, but those who do will love it!
Herbie, Jerry & Merle
Herbie Hancock is about the only one of the artists on your list that I have already, Oro. I have Maiden Voyage, Empyrean Isles, Head Hunters, Sextant, Thrust, and Man Child. I find all to be enjoyable.
1973-1974 Jerry and Merle is a sweet spot, lots of soul and jazz influences showing up in their stuff from that time, those Keystone Encores box set shows in particular are phenomenal. And an absolute highlight of the Merle and Jerry Collaborations would be Merle Saunders and Friends CD Fire Up +, that disc is on fire from start to finish, incorporating tunes that are straight soul like Lonely Avenue and Expressway to Your Heart, other stuff that is more jazzy like Save Mother Earth and Man Child, and some funky stuff like My Problems Got Problems and the phenomenal Welcome to the Basement. Merle Saunders, Jerry Garcia, Tom Fogerty, John Kahn and Bill Vitt tear it up. An album well worth tracking down if you don't have it already, just peak Jerry and Merle. CD was Released in 1992 and is includes most of the songs from the 1970s albums Fire Up and Heavy Turbulence, I think.
Another gem is Hooteroll?, a jazz fusion masterpiece from Jerry Garcia and Howard Wales. That is a great album, great to listen to from start to finish, cohesive and gorgeous music.
I think it was something in the air, 'cause there were just a lot of musical styles and genres being mixed together or teased apart into something new during that period from the late '60s to the mid-'70s. Funk flowing out of soul, jazz fusion explorations by a bunch of artists, the emergence of electronica with stuff like I Feel Love, lots of cool stuff all happening in a relatively short fertile time. Musical forms are constantly shifting, blending, and distilling new stuff through time, but that late '60s to mid '70s period seems like a particularly fertile time, especially for the mixing of jazz, soul, funk, blues, and rock and roll into new forms combining elements of each and taking them in new directions.
Yeah...
...and now I'll soon have Mister Magic, Black Byrd, a Roy Ayers greatest hits, and Gil Scott Heron's Pieces of a Man, which came up as soul jazz, and which I have thought of grabbing a few times before. Oh, yeah, and Bill Wither's album Still Bill, 'cause I have wanted to pick up the song Use Me for a while, and at $4.99 I couldn't pass it up this time. Checked out the Donald Byrd tune Black Byrd online and liked it enough to take a chance on the rest of the album. I had looked at the other albums before, but just needed a catalyst to get me to follow through and pick them up, you were it Oro.
They played Tommy The Cat....
....outstanding!
Avatar updated. Cygnus X-1.
I had a swell time.
Blue Note Records
For jazz fans looking for something new to check out (Hello, Dennis), Blue Note Records is releasing a new Charles Lloyd box set, called “Trio of Trios”, which features Lloyd in 3 separate trio configurations, including players like the great Bill Frisell and Mickey Hart’s good friend Zakir Hussein. There is a short video with company prez and musical mind Don Was talking up the release with Lloyd, who has an impressive body of work.
Dr. Lonnie
Oro- I have really been digging the Dr. Lonnie Smith albums recently. I recently found his albums Boogaloo to Beck and Boogaloo to Beastie Boys, so cool to hear him do sets of covers of these artists. Just that opening track of Beck’s Paper Tiger is worth the price of admission.
Herbie Hancock
I have just noticed that he is performing at Glastonbury Festival later today. He us sharing an hours coverage on the telly with Kacey Musgraves.
Last five...
GarciaLive 18
Peter Rowan - Calling you from my mountain
Run C&W - Row vs Wade
Hacienda Brothers - Western soul
Doug Sahm - The return of Wayne Douglas
still blocking
tried posting something new a few ago, nada, captcha wasn't showing any pictures to ID, apparently a problem there, here goes again, testing
Anniversary listen
Led Zeppelin
How The West Was Won 3CD
The songs on the CD release were taken from 6-25-72 LA Forum and 6-27-72 Long Beach.
Anyone there? Nappy?
Primus fans are cool....
....so are Rush fans. Les called out the Rush peeps and told them that they would do their best to honor it. Apparently it was the final Primus show to feature it. Too bad Primus sucks.
They did a Master Of Puppets thing in the Tommy The Cat thing.
Apologies. Still riding the high.
Crowd was a pretty even mix of older and younger. Male/Female was pretty much 50/50. People grooving. Very nice.
I love concerts. I wore my "Make America Grateful Again" tee. Oh, the looks I get. 😍
Just fired up D'Yer Mak'er in honor of a Zepp reminder.
Rock on.
Led Zep again
I went to the Long Beach Arena show...I was home because I had broken my arm working for the Cal Forestry...what a great break (pun intended) for me...a couple of weeks before the Zep show I saw the Stones at the same arena...I enjoyed the Zep show...the following year for the '73 tour they had worsened considerably with Page's boring bow solos and Bonham's drunken plodding playing...I've never understood the adoration for Bonham's playing...
Wild Man Fischer
Merry-Go Merry-Go Merry-Go Round!!!
Mom....Larry's singing in the shower again!!!
Thanks Nappy
I thought I remembered that you had gone.
But missed Bowie 72 Santa Monica?
I stopped Led Zep and will finish tomorrow. Hockey on now, uh oh Oro…..
I've met Nappy....
....I can't believe he's that old. Seems like a spring chicken! Good on you friend.
Checking In On The Stanley Cup Factory…
(Buff Buff) 2022 CHAMPIONS (Shine Shine Buff) THE COLORADO AVALANCHE (Buff Buff)
(Stands Back to admire)
Well done Colorado. Well done.
Short doses
I liked about 30% of what Led Zep did. The short sharp rockers, like "Communication Breakdown", " Whole Lotta Love" "Heartbreaker" "Immigrant Song" etc. Where they fell down for me was in the extended soloing, the prog rock leanings, the lumpen drum sound, the baby baby baby vocals....But when they cut it short they were great. Of the longer tracks "When The Levee Breaks" is my favourite.