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    What's Inside:
    • 60 page hardcover Smyth-Sewn book featuring essays by Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, and Blair Jackson and photos by Jim Anderson & Mike Laurentis
    • 25th Anniversary Tour Program
    • Official Band Letters
    • 6 Ticket Stubs
    • 6 Cloth Sticker Backstage Passes
    • 1 Tour Laminate
    • Official 1990 Band publicity shot
    • 6 complete shows on 18 discs
          • 3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
          • 3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
          • 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
          • 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
          • 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
          • 4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA

    Box Dimensions: 12-1/8" x 3-1/8" x 12-1/8"
    Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD
    Original art by Wes Lang
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

    Introducing The Next Box: Spring 1990!

    And now for something a little different. This year's box set - Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 - offers six complete shows from the epic spring '90 tour, one concert from each city the band played, personally selected by Dead vaultmeister and archival release producer David Lemieux. The sizzling six are: 3/16/90 Capital Centre (Landover , MD), 3/19/90 Hartford Civic Center, 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, Ontario), 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena (Albany, NY), 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY) and 4/2/90 The Omni (Atlanta, GA).

    In his "Producer's Note" in the beautiful book that is part of the box, Lemieux, who attended the first 10 shows on the tour, states, "To my ears this was the last tour that was consistently great, where every show is excellent, not a dud in the bunch." And Grateful Dead historian Dennis McNally's comprehensive and informative insider's essay in the box is titled "The Last Great Dead Tour." These guys know what they're talking about.

    Basically, the band had been on an upward trajectory since Garcia's return to the road in the spring of '87, following his near-death the previous summer. Of course, 1987 was a trip in itself, what with the unexpected mega-success of In the Dark and their first hit single, "Touch of Grey." But the momentum just kept building with each subsequent tour, as Garcia got back up to full speed (and then some!) and the group as a whole was as unified as they had ever been since Brent joined the band in the spring of '79. New original tunes were popping up and the old favorites were imbued with a freshness and spirit that was so uplifting and inspiring. The band was having fun again, and it was downright infectious.

    The group's fall 1989 shows-as documented two years ago on the Formerly the Warlocks box (two shows from Hampton, VA, 10/8-9/89) and on the 2001 release Nightfall of Diamonds (a single night in NJ, 10/16/89)- kicked the energy level up another couple of notches, as the band reintroduced such loved classics as "Help on the Way" > "Slipknot!," "Attics of My Life," "Death Don't Have No Mercy" and "Dark Star."

    And when the band hit the road in mid-March 1990, they had a bunch of other cool tunes to lay on their unsuspecting crowds, including the return of "Loose Lucy" (last played in 1974; it's not on this box), Brent's "Easy to Love You" (missing since 1980), a rollicking cover of the Rolling Stones' "The Last Time," The Band's "The Weight" (with all four singers taking a verse each) and a lyrically retooled "Black-Throated Wind" (absent since 1974), which elicited huge cheers every time it was played.

    Over these six shows, most of the cornerstones of the Dead's repertoire from the era appear-splendid versions of "Scarlet Begonias" > "Fire on the Mountain," "China Cat Sunflower" > "I Know You Rider," "Playing in the Band," "Uncle John's Band," "Eyes of the World," "Estimated Prophet," "Truckin'," "Sugar Magnolia," "The Other One," "Terrapin," "Stella Blue," "Feel Like a Stranger," "Bird Song," "Let It Grow," "China Doll," "Box of Rain," "Morning Dew"; you name it. From the fall '89 breakouts come "Help-Slip-Frank," "Attics of My Life" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Among the still newish tunes are "Picasso Moon," "Blow Away," "Foolish Heart," "Just a Little Light," "Victim or the Crime," "Standing on the Moon," "We Can Run" and a couple that would get their final plays from the Grateful Dead on this tour-"Built to Last" and "Believe It or Not." There are stirring renditions of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" and "Black Muddy River," rockin' takes on "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "Iko Iko" and the only version of the full "Hey Jude" the band attempted in the modern era. And the "Rhythm Devils" and "Space" jams at the heart of each second set are as noisy-beautiful-scary-funny-intense-mysterious-wild as you'd expect/hope for.

    Of course, we understand that some of you may have other favorite shows from this tour you wish were included on this box. Really, you can't go wrong with any of them. But at 18 discs, this is still the second largest Grateful Dead box (after Europe '72: The Complete Recordings) that's been released, and the non-inclusion of any other shows from the tour definitely does not preclude their future release! But this seemed like a more manageable way to go, while still giving a sense of the tour's amazing depth and breadth.

    Besides the discs themselves, Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 has much to offer, including: a gorgeous 60-page hardcover book containing copious color photos by Jim Anderson and Michael Laurentus, unique artwork by Brooklyn-based fine artist Wes Lang, fascinating business letters and communications related to the tour, a detailed historical essay by Dennis McNally, a Producer's Note by David Lemieux and individual show descriptions by Blair Jackson; a reproduction of the Dead's 1990 tour program (printed and sold later in '90, for the fall and Europe '90 tours); tickets and backstage passes of all six shows; a band publicity photo from 1990 by Ken Friedman; Dennis McNally's tour laminate; and reproductions of the colored 8x10 sheets GDTS sent out with hotel, food and other information for each city on the tour.

    With recordings made by longtime Grateful Dead recordist and producer John Cutler, mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD, you just know it's gonna sound great-and it does!

    So, that's the skinny this time 'round. This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically. Due to ship out August 31st, we anticipate that this extraordinary set will sell-out, so order your copy today!

    If you're looking for more of a bite-sized taste of the '90s, Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It, a 2-CD set featuring a handful of favorites, will be in stores on September 18th.

    -Blair Jackson

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  • dstache
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    I wrote the initial "two cents" comment but neglected to include my user name because I assumed it would just naturally appear. My user name is below. Just like people knew that people would "kvetch" and "bitch" and "whine," I knew that people would attack the people who expressed their dismay or criticized, critiqued or complained about the release. No one attacks those who love the release, but those who love it try to shout down those that don't. I don't understand that. And the name calling is ridiculous. Did your mothers not teach you not to call other people names? This space isn't just for praising the release; it is also for the opposite. More power to those that love the release (although it is just going to encourage higher priced releases-if we would refuse to pay what they demanded, prices would go down). Spring 90 is a good tour, very good to great if you compare it to any tour after Jan/Feb '78 in my opinion. The artwork looks very nice. Re: the price comparison of Europe 72 and this release (more than $5.50 per disc difference), the fact that there is more junk and less discs does not justify that increase. So I do not think that SimonRob makes perfect sense. Re: comparing the Winterland boxes (10 discs each, approx $100 each) and this, yeah, they are similar, they were overpriced too, I complained about the price then (comparing them to Fillmore West '69 which was appro $70 total), but overlooked it and bought them anyways. I was in the "I owe them" phase then, and I don't blame anyone who is still in that phase. I want to buy shows from dead.net, just not at this price. Re: 9000, I think it will sell out, probably within a few days or a week. dstache
  • SPACEBROTHER
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    Fricken Sweet!
    Being that initially when I first got news of this release today, I was kind of bummed at the limited status of this, the cost of this release and my current limited fundages, and the prospect of missing out on another FW '69 quality and historically important run of shows. That is until a friend and true brother-from-another-mutha has ordered an extra copy of this set for me! Sweeeet! Especially so because 4/2/90 was such a great show, and I was there! Even though I am getting this box set, I wish tptb would reconsider the limitations of 9000 units and that these shows won't be available individually. I also believe they would easily sell more than twice the 9000 units number of these particular shows.
  • cosmicbadger
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    Extra show
    Having watched DLs video I see that it will also be possible to assemble the compleete show of March 24 1990 from the bonus tracks on Show 4 of tihs set, plus Dozin' at the Knick (Walkin Blues, all of Disc 2 and Disc 3 1-6), Without a Net (OMSN) and Postcards from the Hanging (Desolation Row).
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    WRT the Ubuntu issue
    Our tech wizard suggests downloading,installiing chromium from the ubuntu software center, which should solve the problem.
  • Anonymous (not verified)
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    Excellent Surprise
    I was very happy to see the email announcing this box set arrive in my inbox today. I've always loved the spring/summer tour of '90 as that included my first show. The 24-track recording was plucked mainly from this tour for 'Without a Net' and the sound of that release had always defined for me the epitome of early '90's Grateful Dead. It has an energy, fullness, and creativity that sounded always crisp and enthusiastic - from the Terrapin limited release to Without a Net, Nightfall of Diamonds and Dozin at the Knick - they all paint a pretty accurate picture of the awesome playing that was going on at that time. Although like many posting here I, too, have several of these shows in good digital form, but i will always look forward to having the real deal. For those who seem to complain about new releases at each opportunity, my advice is to just not buy them if it is going to cause such a negative experience for you. thankfully i like to think those people are the minority of those fans who love the music and understand the workings of free enterprise and an excellent product that you can collect and have for generations to enjoy down the road. Cant wait to get mine - i have learned (thankfully not the heard way, but by reading many posts here) to scoop these up when they hit my inbox otherwise i might lose out. Thankfully i was able to jump on the Europe '72 Box and i have been a happy happy man ever since. Keep the good music coming. And thanks.
  • rrot
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    Jerry would never!
    "Jerry would never!" Yup, some guy on a comment board knows best what Garcia would think -- that makes perfect sense! SimonRob, you make perfect sense regarding the pricing. But we are a very entitled bunch of whiners, so it will fall on our deaf ears.
  • claymation_88
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    I Was at the Knick!!!
    I was at the Knickerbocker in Albany! The show was awesome, I can't wait to hear the Dupree again!, I remember some members of the crowd were pretty unruly. Some guy smashed a beer bottle on the windshield of of an Albany PD Cruiser, right in front of where we parked. I spent a half hour convincing the cops my buddy and myself were cool drive and that we did not know the bottle breaking idiot. Peace Happy B-day Jerry!!!
  • simonrob
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    I must confess to being a bit surprised by the scale of this - the second biggest box - as the follow-up to the biggest box. In that respect I can understand the dismay of some folks regarding the price. It doesn't really come as a surprise that it is again a limited edition - Rhino know pretty accurately how many they will ship quickly and probably have little interest in how many more they could sell over the next few years. It would appear to be a high-quality production regarding the box itself and the bits 'n' pieces that come with it. It would seem that they will never get this right for everybody (probably an impossible task) as some will want it as cheap as possible without any trimmings and some are happy to have loads of stocking-fillers, knowing that it will bump up the price somewhat. Regarding the price, we are getting twice as many discs and twice as many doo-dads for twice the price of the "Winterland" boxes, and a bigger physical box to boot, so there is surely no grounds for complaint there. It is hard to see exactly what the six 3-disc sleeves are - I hope for "Digipaks" as opposed to the paper sleeves of "Europe '72" which attracted so much criticism. Most box sets of this magnitude have plenty of extras added and this does put the price up. Bearing in mind the extras and the fact that there are 1/4 the number of discs as compared to "Europe '72", one can reasonably expect the price per disc to be higher. If you use the price per disc or show of the Allman Brothers' archival releases as your benchmark, you should be grinning from ear to ear every time something comes out here! Although it is in no way my favourite era of the Dead, as far as I am aware it is all top-notch stuff, probably the best of their later performances and their swansong in my opinion. I am sure many will disagree, particularly the younger listeners (absolutely no offence meant here) who grew up with the Dead in the late '80's and onwards. I was pleased to note that ordering was flawless and problem-free this time around - a big thank you to Rhino for at least trying to avoid the ordering problems that have occurred in the past. I hope they have succeeded and that everything goes smoothly in the ordering and shipping processes and that the end result is of the desired / required quality. I'm really looking forward to getting this in my greasy paws - after the customs man has studied it thoroughly and decided that the economy will be better off if I make a sizeable contribution to the treasury! Thanks in advance to everyone who has laboured to get this out to us.P.S. Canada is a different country to the US so I guess that for shipping to Canada one should choose "International" shipping like all other denizens of the rest of the world. SimonRob
  • unkle sam
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    hey all, you had better read the transaction details on this site before you plop down your cash, they have covered every base and dotted every eye and crossed every tee to make sure that they get their money, reguardless, let the buyer beware.
  • danc
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    Great late era choice
    It's not a fit for my budget and current state of GD addiction-affliction (need some '76 and '78 about now, actually). But I would order it if I thought it would help our collective cause down the road to see this sell out. I take it this will sell out given the high reputation of the tour. I loved the Nassau shows! I am amazed at 9000 though, up near the level of the subscription series run. I would have guessed fewer.
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What's Inside:
• 60 page hardcover Smyth-Sewn book featuring essays by Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, and Blair Jackson and photos by Jim Anderson & Mike Laurentis
• 25th Anniversary Tour Program
• Official Band Letters
• 6 Ticket Stubs
• 6 Cloth Sticker Backstage Passes
• 1 Tour Laminate
• Official 1990 Band publicity shot
• 6 complete shows on 18 discs
      • 3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
      • 3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      • 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
      • 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      • 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      • 4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA

Box Dimensions: 12-1/8" x 3-1/8" x 12-1/8"
Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD
Original art by Wes Lang
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Introducing The Next Box: Spring 1990!

And now for something a little different. This year's box set - Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 - offers six complete shows from the epic spring '90 tour, one concert from each city the band played, personally selected by Dead vaultmeister and archival release producer David Lemieux. The sizzling six are: 3/16/90 Capital Centre (Landover , MD), 3/19/90 Hartford Civic Center, 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, Ontario), 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena (Albany, NY), 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY) and 4/2/90 The Omni (Atlanta, GA).

In his "Producer's Note" in the beautiful book that is part of the box, Lemieux, who attended the first 10 shows on the tour, states, "To my ears this was the last tour that was consistently great, where every show is excellent, not a dud in the bunch." And Grateful Dead historian Dennis McNally's comprehensive and informative insider's essay in the box is titled "The Last Great Dead Tour." These guys know what they're talking about.

Basically, the band had been on an upward trajectory since Garcia's return to the road in the spring of '87, following his near-death the previous summer. Of course, 1987 was a trip in itself, what with the unexpected mega-success of In the Dark and their first hit single, "Touch of Grey." But the momentum just kept building with each subsequent tour, as Garcia got back up to full speed (and then some!) and the group as a whole was as unified as they had ever been since Brent joined the band in the spring of '79. New original tunes were popping up and the old favorites were imbued with a freshness and spirit that was so uplifting and inspiring. The band was having fun again, and it was downright infectious.

The group's fall 1989 shows-as documented two years ago on the Formerly the Warlocks box (two shows from Hampton, VA, 10/8-9/89) and on the 2001 release Nightfall of Diamonds (a single night in NJ, 10/16/89)- kicked the energy level up another couple of notches, as the band reintroduced such loved classics as "Help on the Way" > "Slipknot!," "Attics of My Life," "Death Don't Have No Mercy" and "Dark Star."

And when the band hit the road in mid-March 1990, they had a bunch of other cool tunes to lay on their unsuspecting crowds, including the return of "Loose Lucy" (last played in 1974; it's not on this box), Brent's "Easy to Love You" (missing since 1980), a rollicking cover of the Rolling Stones' "The Last Time," The Band's "The Weight" (with all four singers taking a verse each) and a lyrically retooled "Black-Throated Wind" (absent since 1974), which elicited huge cheers every time it was played.

Over these six shows, most of the cornerstones of the Dead's repertoire from the era appear-splendid versions of "Scarlet Begonias" > "Fire on the Mountain," "China Cat Sunflower" > "I Know You Rider," "Playing in the Band," "Uncle John's Band," "Eyes of the World," "Estimated Prophet," "Truckin'," "Sugar Magnolia," "The Other One," "Terrapin," "Stella Blue," "Feel Like a Stranger," "Bird Song," "Let It Grow," "China Doll," "Box of Rain," "Morning Dew"; you name it. From the fall '89 breakouts come "Help-Slip-Frank," "Attics of My Life" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Among the still newish tunes are "Picasso Moon," "Blow Away," "Foolish Heart," "Just a Little Light," "Victim or the Crime," "Standing on the Moon," "We Can Run" and a couple that would get their final plays from the Grateful Dead on this tour-"Built to Last" and "Believe It or Not." There are stirring renditions of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" and "Black Muddy River," rockin' takes on "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "Iko Iko" and the only version of the full "Hey Jude" the band attempted in the modern era. And the "Rhythm Devils" and "Space" jams at the heart of each second set are as noisy-beautiful-scary-funny-intense-mysterious-wild as you'd expect/hope for.

Of course, we understand that some of you may have other favorite shows from this tour you wish were included on this box. Really, you can't go wrong with any of them. But at 18 discs, this is still the second largest Grateful Dead box (after Europe '72: The Complete Recordings) that's been released, and the non-inclusion of any other shows from the tour definitely does not preclude their future release! But this seemed like a more manageable way to go, while still giving a sense of the tour's amazing depth and breadth.

Besides the discs themselves, Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 has much to offer, including: a gorgeous 60-page hardcover book containing copious color photos by Jim Anderson and Michael Laurentus, unique artwork by Brooklyn-based fine artist Wes Lang, fascinating business letters and communications related to the tour, a detailed historical essay by Dennis McNally, a Producer's Note by David Lemieux and individual show descriptions by Blair Jackson; a reproduction of the Dead's 1990 tour program (printed and sold later in '90, for the fall and Europe '90 tours); tickets and backstage passes of all six shows; a band publicity photo from 1990 by Ken Friedman; Dennis McNally's tour laminate; and reproductions of the colored 8x10 sheets GDTS sent out with hotel, food and other information for each city on the tour.

With recordings made by longtime Grateful Dead recordist and producer John Cutler, mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD, you just know it's gonna sound great-and it does!

So, that's the skinny this time 'round. This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically. Due to ship out August 31st, we anticipate that this extraordinary set will sell-out, so order your copy today!

If you're looking for more of a bite-sized taste of the '90s, Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It, a 2-CD set featuring a handful of favorites, will be in stores on September 18th.

-Blair Jackson

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Well,Anna rRxia and fluffanutter have show their true colors with this "fine print legal" gambit -- they aren't just "complainers" -- they are haters. It is a mystery why Anna rRxia's comments are still permitted here at all: Her first post on this board, at 4:41pm 8/1, was a promise to steal, rather than buy this box set: "sorry rhino, you can't fool me again. i'll wait for somebody to rip the discs for me." Why is this commenter allowed to continue here, Marye?? If ANYONE believes Rhino/GD intend to not replace, at their own expense, defective merchandise, you are either a fool or being fooled by these clown liars. My own experience with Rhino/GD is very much like that expressed by scott1129: I have bought EVERY SINGLE set released. There have been ALMOST NO problems with anything. The very, very few problems were FIXED QUICKLY and kindly, at no cost to me. Compared to Rhino/GD, I wouldn't trust fluffanutter or AnnarRxia farther than I can throw them, and I'm a big wimp. Do everyone a favor and stop spreading your hate and bullsh!t.
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my view is that you guys are doing just fine, and that is better than going all authoritarian on Anna/Fluff.
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I am confused, if Anna rRxia is planning on pirating this release, why is this person worried about the return policy. My experience with the store is I’ve always had anything defective replaced. No real problems. Never had to send anything back for replacement. Can’t wait for this release. 15 more days. A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.” Friedrich Nietzsche
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I hesitate to get involved here , but what the hey. I have been a pretty harsh critic of the store here and with good reason. I have experienced too many foul ups and I am also paying massive international shipping costs for the privelege. But these guys have clearly learnt something from the clusterfuck that was Europe 72 and are trying to fix it They have created a special ordering system from the start to avoid crashing the creaky normal system (note the current problems with delivering DaP3) They announced it when they are sure about producing it, not as a speculative offer. So the gap between ordering and shipping is (in theory) much shorter. The CDs appear to be packaged in digipacks not feeble sleeves They have included lots of emphemeral bits and pieces, as were promised but not delivered with E72 (not to my liking but....) The ordering stage seems to have gone without a hitch An important question about provenance of the recording has been answered. You may not approve or agree but the answer is there. The wording of the legal stuff does look misleading and should be corrected, but I really do not believe that they are trying to avoid liability for defective product. I am sure that even in the USA there are laws that protect the consumer and give you a right to get what you pay for. They have not underestimated the demand this time, so now folks who are slow off the mark are not missing out. The price is on the high side (especially with high shipping costs) but just tolerable for me and many others (so the accountants would say they have pitched it just right) . It is the same per show as the two WInterland sets and you do get the ingredients to assemble a seventh show. The choice of shows and design artist etc is really a matter of taste. A highlights version is available No single shows which is a shame, but the door is left open for downloads later. Good versions of all these shows are widely traded and will continuie to be. At least one of the traded shows is even from John Cutlers DAT! If you are inclined to do so you will be able to steal this music without much problem within a week of it being released and with virtually no chance of getting caught. So thus far around 8.5/10 I would say. and a great improvement ....but I'm not holding my breath. A lot of the bad feeling here comes from nice people who have been really shabbily treated (NOT all whiners and haters)...it will take them some time to trust this process again. Rhino/Deadnet really do need to get it just exactly perfect this time...or very nearly so. wow I am in a charitable mood....maybe because I just made myself the most delicious plate of spaghetti and home made meatballs washed down with a glass of nice red wine. Now Dr Rhino..where is that free signed copy you promised ?
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@ cosmicbadgerI could not agree with you more (even while awaiting DaP3 in the Netherlands...) and I could not have put it better. Yes, things go wrong from time to time, but in the end problems are solved and I dare anyone to believably put forward an example of a mistake that was not corrected by Rhino referring to any clause in their terms of service. Yes, they probably could and should have worded it a little better, Anna rRxia and fluffanutter have a point, legally speaking, but speaking musically, I'd say: Who do you love? > Do not stop on tracks > Good lovin' > Dark star > You win again
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I have purchased every single release that Dead.net has offered over the years. I've had a few shaky experiences but overall everything ended up O.K. Most of my issues have always had to do with Customer Service, and generally they have been handled on an acceptable level. Things such as a double order being mistakenly created and dealing with an offshore call center that I'm sure had no idea of what the Dead we're all about. The Europe 72 project had left me hesitant of ordering other things, mainly due to the whole ordering process. If I recall, I didn't even know if I had a set on the way until 2 weeks after I placed my order. and I ordered about an hour into the first evening. (Conversely , I ordered this set on my iphone with a skeptical signal at best, when I was away from home andI still had a painless ordering process!) When I got my E72 set, every disc skipped on my Sony SACD player. I un-boxed a second, brand new SACD player of the same model, and the discs also skipped. Yet they played fine in all my other players. None of my friends reported skipping. The problem was not with the discs, but with the model of player that didn't like these discs. I purchased a new player. Although I wasn't happy to have to do this the discs were not defective, it was the player I was using. However, before I plunked down more money for another high end machine, Charlie Miller and others suggested using a program like EAC to test the discs. Great advice. I did and ALL checked out fine. I posted my findings on the Europe 72 thread so anyone that wanted to get piece of mind could also test their own set for flaws.. Now when I buy a set or a few cd's I don't have time to listen to, the first thing I do is open up the free EAC program and test my discs. So really time is not a problem. I'll do this set in an hour. Anywhere, website or brick and mortar, that I have purchased cassettes, CD's, DVD, or software, the policy was the same. Once you open it you can't return it; you can only exchange the defective product for one that is not. Why? So people don't make an illegal copy and then return it for their purchase price, aka. piracy... Rhino purposefully trying to put out a defective product for the whole sake of wanting to screw the buyers, just doesn't ring true to me. It seems to me that enough people who love the Dead, like Dave L. are still on board to ensure that these projects keep coming through. They don't want to be associated with a bad product or experience either and would rather see the Dead's music be treated in a respectful manner. They are also fans. I can't wait for the release. Thanks again, guys for getting these projects out.
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People have been speculating about how this is selling. According to a dead.net email, they have sold 6,000 of the 9,000 boxes. IMO, it is an absolute certainty that individual shows will be available to purchase via download: "This is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically." How else could you possibly read that? I'm glad that some of the folks who have been so vocal about wanting a '90s box are putting their money where their mouth is. Not my cup of tea, but, hey, I don't have to love every box. I'm glad there are a lot of people excited about this. Hopefully for Rhino's sake, there are 3,000 more who are excited. ;-)
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Dicks Picks Vol One - $25 on amazonOne From The Vault - $37 on amazon Terrapin Station 3/15/90 Limited Ed. - $87 on amazon E72 Complete - $1,400 on amazon Fillmore West 69 complete - $1,600 on amazon Dave's Picks Volume 3 - $74 on amazon this is the only problem with limited release. One more topic View from the vault July 90, June 91, June 90, July 87 How come there are no video of this Spring Tour Now that would have been a box. Six shows - 18 cds - 6 dvds for $300 with a run of 15,000. but we are happy with the six shows the 3/15/90 (Phil's B-day) is a great release still after 15 years The boys are in perfect form. Each song is a masterpiece in itself. Brent is way up in the mix. And the whole band is contributing. Love the "WE WANT PHIL" chant before the TThumbBlues Thanks to all those tapers and the techies who now prowl the vault.
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the E72 and Fillmore West are on Ebay.
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I've ordered just about every official release. I have no complaints about products or service. Great job on bringing us the music we love! Sure there are things I would have done differently, but overall I'm very pleased. Looking forward to getting these shows.Peace.
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Why didn't you guys just release the whole tour like you did with the Europe '72 box? The shows that were selected for this are good but there are some that were better.
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It is beyond belief that we are spoon fed a little piece of grateful dead music at a time. Holy crap I am going to be dead and gone by the time we have a total of two years released...had to count '72. Really I don't understand it as we, the most loyal, have to grow old and wait for sound board quality disc....my tape are old and I am not going to break them out....i suspect there are other sources, but why not her. JUST RELEASE ALL THE MUSIC..........sorry it may effect your job but we are the customers and we are getting old and dying.......seriously this it a bunch of.......
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As a Huge Head, and a buyer of all things Jerry from dead.net (the E'72 box, Dick's and Dave's picks, and much more) I am saddened by the blatant capitalization and commercialization of the archive. We were told of E'72's "exclusiveness" and subsequently found out the individual concerts would also be made available. You are again using this ploy. You are damaging my 40+ year relationship with the Dead with this greedy behavior. I will pass on Spring 1990. I hope you pass on this word.
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Eh, it doesn't seem quite right to complain about "blatant capitalism" and also how products aren't being kept "exclusive" enough at the same time, does it?
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I am thankful for the releases in such fine quality, but the way they are marketed makes them too expensive for me to pay for in big chunks. Could you please sell them by concert, and release all of them. I am getting old and in the way, but need some good lovin' from you all. I hope help is on the way. I'll be dead before I get to hear some of my favorite shows, such as 5/13/78 Spectrum, Philly. Also, couldn't they be downloadable as well as in packages? I don't know how you do what you do, just some friendly suggestions from a loyal fan of things Jerry and the Boys.
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One of the Greatest Dead tracks ever burned onto a piece of plastic. One of the exciting parts of these 1990 spring tour shows is the section of the second set after the last song of the first half where the band 'jams' into the Rhythm Devils protion of the nights performance, afterwhich there is a portion only noted on the 3/15/90 Terrapin Station Limited release, where master psychedelic programmer Bob Bralove would interact with the drummers(Mickey) and then segue into the space portion of the show. As with the "My Mind Just Left My Body" jams in China Cat, Dark Star and the Mock Turtle jam on 3/15/90, are these "And" sections part of these shows in the box or is it a rare occurance and something I need to research more to find. Countdown to release 14 days. Less than 3,000 copies left as of yesterday 8/16 (anniversary of the Dead's appearance at Woodstock - Pig's 40 minute lovelight rap) still have Dozin and Without a Net (what a cover) to preview.
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Very excited about this release, BUTwill the glitches that we hear between tracks on the listening party be present on the box set? And, can we expect any vinyl offerings of these gems?
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As much as I would love to own this amazing-looking limited edition box set, I just can't wave bye-bye to $199.98-plus-S&H. Just. Can't. Do it. I did, however, opt for a pre-order of "Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It," so I'm still helping the cause, right? It's the same issue with all music edition of "Europe '72: The Complete Recordings." I can want it to infinity and back, but I just can't allow myself to spend that much dough. So I did the next best thing: buy "Europe '72" and "Europe '72, Vol. 2." It's not the same, but it's a step in the right direction.
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Double-posted by accident. Please disregard this online faux pas.
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We share the age range, and I remember so well the Brent debate among the cacophony of the masses. It so quickly rose to biblical proportions that even Heads' heads were spinning. Heads struggled to figure out what , precisely, were the collective issues within the waves of disapproval. Singing voice? Character of his lyrics? His composed music holding up those lyrics? His song(s) as one package? The amount of time that the band alloted him during the show? His input by way of back-up vocals in the Band's songs, where his voice was previously not heard? All of it? None of it? Something else? I struggled with it back then, and it's not much easier in reflection.But Palmer, you''ve got a very right point and I'm glad to see that you've brought it up. Brent's overal contributions as an instrumentalist in the Band were inspired, energizing, and hot. And I want to add from experience that, backstage, he was a friendly kind, gentle, and delightfully literate person and highly likeable. So,... moving on to the next release!.
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Thanks halloweendeadhead- I appreciate your post. I really loved Brent's playing when I saw it live in the early 80's. Later on, I began to sour on it and then gave up altogether. Recordings of the early 80's didn't seem to "hold up" very well, also. Now, I'm kind of glad I ignored this period since it makes this release all the more exciting. Re-listening now to what spring 90 material I have has really been something of a revelation.As for Brent's songs, I must say I think I'll always abhor "I Will take you Home". I was relieved that tune is missing from this set! ;) On the other hand, I seem to be one of the few who champion "Don't Need Love"- one of the best Dead originals from the 1980's, IMO. 14 more days!
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Sweet Fudge! The Grateful Dead are on the Top 40 albums list in Rolling Stone! DaP3 is #34! I seriously can't believe it. On the same list as Justin Bieber, Kenny Chesney, Katy Perry, ad nauseum. Even has a picture of the GD early 80's. Goes to show, you don't ever know. "Truly, truly weird." (paraphrased from Jerry comments 2/27/69.)
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All I want is the music on CD in the smallest packaging possible. I would have preferred if these shows had been in a simple slipcase box with a CD-sized booklet (like 'Fillmore West 1969'). That would be simple, efficient, and would greatly reduce the price for each unit. Large packaging is a nuisance and the swag is not important -- usually looked at once and forgotten. I know you are trying to make nice products and we are grateful for that, but the space these things take up is a concern. Please be courteous and reduce the packaging size in the future to something more manageable and convenient. That would also reduce the price for each unit which would make the music more accessible to fans. The music is what we want -- the swag and big boxes, not so much.
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It will be 11 days or less before the box is shipped. Thought there might be more posts with shipping date so soon. dave's picks 3 which I recieved on the 6th sent from california to pa under the free shipping option might be causing some anxiety among thoses who are still waiting. The europe 72 box was shipped from pa near scanton. I wonder if the box will ship from pa or ca and if it makes a difference for those not sixty miles from scranton. I think sales have slowed down and the box won't sell out until after it ships. The e72 box gave people 9 months or so to come up with the money. The spring box was less than half the price but it is not easy to explain to your wife or girlfriend that you just spent 220 dollars on a cd. Will the next d pick be the 80s or a pigpen release. everything from 70 has been a home run so far. I know a lot from 70 is not in the vault becuse of bears legel problems but would love to see more 1970 truely a time of transition.
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A valid point about the extras included with these music releases.Dick's Picks One was released as a single size, double cd jewel case. Two was a single cd in a jewel cd case. Three was a single size, double cd jewel case. Four was a double size, three cd jewel case. as were all the following 32 releases. One From The Vault was a digipack with trays for the cd (similar to the Dave's Picks series) Two From The Vault was also release in this manner Both are now available in single size, double cd jewel cases. The Terrapin Station Limited Edition 3/15/90 release was released as a digipack but with an outer sleeve to hide the package info. (Also had a fold out feature to create a stand up) View From The Vault was a double sized, three or four cd jewel case with the DVDs in standard plastic dvd cases. The Vault series, (2/11/69, Ladies and Gentleman..., Steppin' Out, Dozin', GD Movie soundtrack) were jewel cases. then the Egypt set was released as a paper folder with a fold out pyramid and some swag. The To Terrapin '77 set was a paper folder. Crimson, White and Indigo was a paper folder. The First Box was the So Many Roads set and was in a cloth bound box with a book to hold the cds. The next box is the Golden Road box which is a large box with the cd's in digipacks with trays and a large booklet. The next box is Beyond Description the same format as the previous release. The next box is the Fillmore West 1969 complete a box with the cd's in a book. The next box is the Winterland 1973 set in a box with paper folders for the cd's, and some swag The next box is the Winterland 1977 set in a box with paper folders and some swag The next box is the Europe 1972 tour Complete. advertised as a replica steamer trunk (paper box) with tour mementos. Travel maps, buttons, stickers, other stuff but we got none of that just the book and the cds and some cheap swag. but hey 73 cds for 600 out stand ing deal but the cd were in paper folders The Road Trips Series all released in paper folders. Dave's Picks are in digipacks with plastic cd trays. Plus a booklet with a cool essay and some photos. This is what we want. Individual shows released at a modest rate. (Eight shows per year) (if you want to hear all the shows before you die, hit up archive.org and join a vine) In Digipacks with some nice essay or historical documentation and photos. No more limited releases as this just encourages the scalpers. (If I am fallen on hard times (any one else) and can not afford this box of Spring 90 why am I denied the joy of the music at a later time when I am able to afford this luxury, I can buy the Dicks Picks series still but the Dave's Picks are gone.) Make Music, Not Swag.
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Thanks, halloweendeadhead. You echo my own mixed feelings about Brent. All but one of my 30-plus shows were during his tenure and I struggled with those same questions the whole time. I bailed out when the sea of cheese became too thick. That sentiment has not changed even now. I'll have mixed feelings about this box when I hear it. I wish Bob Bralove had never been allowed to get his paws on the gear except for a few space segments. I know most or all of the band embraced MIDI technology. Now we see it was a flavor of the month proposition and thank goodness the post-Dead have not used it much. I'm glad you found Brent literate and kind. That's how I want to remember him.
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Though there is still over a week left, and it is not out of the realm of possibility, it looks quite sure that this deluxe six show edition will not sell out before the ship date. I guess all of those vociferously advocating for other eras than the 70s didn't put their money where their mouth is. I think we will have a lot more 60s and 70s to look forward to in the future. Not such a bad thing....

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Not "all of those," Anna.....I vociferously voiced my wish for mid-80's before any more '70's (sans '70 itself) ~ and will continue to ~ but I'm still psyched about this and ordered it on the first day. Scott, you forget (as most folks seem to) or otherwise fail to acknowledge the 32-page exact reprint of the Europe '72 tour book ("Book of the Dead"), which came in the E72 trunk in addition to the 100-page hardbound book. And which is brimming with time-capsule text, with period commentary from all the band members, even Pigpen (how often do you read him talking about Woodstock and excitedly about the current tour?). I thought that was a pretty cool piece of swag. One Man, I'm with you on never being enamored of the Midi proliferation in '89-'90 ~ I'd rather Jerry's guitar sound like a guitar than a french horn ~ but the band clearly had fun with it, and if they were having fun then they were musically engaged. Leave it to the Grateful Dead for their version of "flavor of the month" to mean experimenting with new sounds.... Rather than donning jackets with rolled-up sleeves! (Yes, Graham Nash, I'm looking at you : ) But this illumines another argument for the mid-80's: the last moment before those other sounds infiltrated, but still years enough into Brent's tenure that the band had gelled.... Just sayin'.
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I almost always reach for '70s Dead when choosing what to listen to but I enjoy the late Brent era also.I would really like to buy this box but cannot justify spending $200+ on it. The two Winterland boxes were just right...lots of great music and not something I'd have to save up for. And the limited edition thing just sucks for those of us without a ton of disposable income. The "extras" in the box are okay but I'd MUCH prefer an all music version at a lower price. I passed on the Hampton box because I didn't want to spend $20 on a cigar box. I don't understand why a tour from '90 (which was a good year but certainly not close to the highs of the 70s) gets a six show box while the Winterland boxes had three shows each. It's understandable that Rhino will try to maximize their profit but I just want to say that there are many of us out here who could more easily spend less than $100 on a box. Also, why not make the physical discs available for purchase? I can't buy this $200 box but would love to buy a show or two; don't you want my money?
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In all fairness, the E72 box didn't officially sell out for several months after the reservation preorder started. Many people who reserved their copies got dropped for either not having enough money or not using their special codes. Heck, my copy shipped and arrived before the money was even taken out of my account. This time around, you pay up front. Different circumstances. I imagine these are selling right on par with anything released. I believe most people who buy these releases through mailorder, like me, buy them all, regardless of era. Another way to look at it is perhaps because of the oversaturation of '70s releases, lots of people lost interest in preordering this one, but I highly doubt thats the case. $200 bucks is a chunk of change to cough up in relatively short notice, unlike the 9 month advance notice for the E72 box. Whether they sell out before the ship date or not really doesn't matter. They will sell out regardless. I'm already looking forward to Spring '90 box Volume two! Brent was and will always be "the man", and the band never rocked harder than any other era period, except when Pigpen was throwing it down in the '60s in my less than humble opinion.
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A lot of folks still have not received their Dave's #3 and there has been no official word posted concerning the reason for the shipping problem for that series. Let us hope that whatever happened in that situation is known and has been corrected before the $200.00 sets start being shipped into POSTAL LIMBO. Although , powers that be, just a little light on this subject would be appreciated, I am sure, for those who have not received their Vol. 3.
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Has anyone tried the to use the order status? You are required to enter an Order I.D. and zip code. I enter my order confirmation number and the zip code and it cannot find my order. Not sure what the Order I.D. number is because it is nowhere on my printed order confirmation. Only thing listed is the order confirmation number which doesn't work.
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Shortly after I ordered this I checked the order status using the order ID from my order confirmation mail. It worked, Allman's post aroused my curiosity so I have just repeated the operation and got the message that the order could not be found. Draw your own conclusions from this.
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SimonRob Got the same thing no order could be found. Thats a little worrying
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I also tried to check my order status on line with no luck. But it is just a glich in the system. I phoned Dead.net customer service with my order no. and they have it scheduled to ship 8/31, so I would say you guys can chill, all is good. I am pumped for this one. Rock on.
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so far tech guys are finding that this seems to be happening in some browsers and not others, so if you're in a hurry on this, try a different browser and see if that helps. Meanwhile, the investigation continues. Thanks.
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Yes the Europe 72: Complete came with the original tour book (so did the album)but the original ad had stuff like buttons, maps, tour highlights, and band stuff, stickers, posters. Spring 90 is a very wonderful time for Brent, but of course he's gone less than 6 months later. DaP3 is great, hang in there they'll get to you. Order Status and other internet access glitches, try using a different browser (if your using Explorer, try Firefox, or Chrome or some thing even more obscure. I have found that some webpages won't load with explorer but work wonderfully with firefox. so ...
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I sincerely hope that these boxes are shipped WITH tracking numbers, unlike the Dave Pick 3 which, apparently, had no tracking number on the standard shipping . If someone out there is listening-You do not want to roll the dice with $200 dollar boxes. A SNAFU with this one would cost customers and good will not to mention money trying to replace boxes on faith. I have had other USPS snafu experience outside of Dead stuff-no one is minding the USPS store anymore.
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The order status check seems to be working again - at least for me (using the same browser as always). I had checked the status of my order shortly after originally placing my order and it worked then. I was checking to see if my order had been placed OK. One can't be too careful here. I reckon! I checked it again a couple of days ago following a post suggesting that orders could not be found - my order (and others, judging by subsequent posts here) also could not be found. Now (5 minutes ago) I tried it again and it gave all the expected info regarding my order. This particular issue seems to have been fixed quickly. Good work, guys!I have also taken Mary E's advice and sent an e-mail to Dr. Rhino giving all the details of my (subscription) order for "Dave's Picks Volume 3" which has not yet arrived. I hope that the USPS issue on this is resolved just as quickly. We shall see.
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I like physical product. I don't like downloads. I like liner notes and pictures that come with a physical product. I don't like the sleeves that Dick's Picks were in and although they are an improvement over those sleeves that were so tight you had to spread them with one hand while you yanked them out with the other, I don't particularly like the Digipacks that Dave's Picks use either. When a hub breaks there's no way to securely hold the disc in place and since they're glued in you can't replace the tray. I know jewel boxes are not "green" but at least the trays were replacable if the hub broke. I don't like these large oversize boxes. They don't fit on my shelves with my other releases and are a storage problem. Even the "So Many Roads", "Winterland June 1973", "Winterland 1973" and "Warlocks" sets can not be stored on their sides on my shelves because they are larger than jewel boxes. The other thing I don't like is the limited editions. I don't plan on selling my CDs so I don't need them to go up in value. I didn't buy them for investment purposes. I feel sorry for new fans who haven't bought these limited editions because they haven't yet been exposed to the Dead's music and therefore haven't bought these sets and won't be able to buy them in the future. I also feel sorry for the deadheads who can't afford them when they are released and get shut out because they go out of print. The first Dick's Picks bonus disc came in a sleeve that was wide enough to fit a paper sleeve into it. I placed the bonus disc in a paper sleeve and slipped it into the sleeve the disc came in. The paper sleeve protects the disc and it dosn't fall out. This was the only Dick's Picks bonus disc that was wide enough for a paper sleeve. All the others were tighter. Why can't the sleeves be a little bit wider in order to accomodate an inner sleeve made of paper or plastic and be marketed that way, like a mini LP album? Wouldn't that be less expensive and green? Tony
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I just got mine today. It's a beauty. The book and other things are very nice, but as many people have pointed out will be looked at for a couple of days. I am glad they aren't listening to those who want the junky looking jewell cases. But now excuse me I have some serious listening to do. One more thing they definately don't give the numbers out in order. I bought no more than 15 min. after it went on sale and got # 6247 go figure
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This was supposed to ship at the end of the month and you got yours today! Way to go dude! Happy listening and don't let any of the thorns on the roses catch you when they fly by. Give us a sound quality review since everybody is so opinionated about 2 vs 24 track and the amount of mixing time in the budget for this one.
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Yes I got mine this morning. By accident kinda. The original ship date was too close to my vacation to risk so I paid for 2 day ship oh well. It's sounding mighty fine. By the way it was a surprise to me but the Dead were actually members of the British Secret Service. But it makes sense since the Queen was head of the world drug trade (same source). Don't worry I'm not nuts when you get IT you'll get it
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Hey snafu, did you get a shipping notice? I choose a quicker shipping option as well. Where do you live? I'm hoping mine comes soon, I ordered within the first 30 min
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I received shipping notification today, including a UPS tracking number. I chose standard shipping when it was ordered. I love the early departure for this new Box Set- looking forward to it's arrival- Thank You!
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