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  • izzie
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    I am going to have to not read this topic in the morning anymore. It just pisses me off. I get yelled at often enough at my dayjob for things that are beyond my control.... Look, we're frustrated too, okay? But there is nothing we can do for you, with regard to the store, that really, you can't do for yourselves. Here is the email address, yet again, for the store people. customerservice@deadnetstore.com I know that's not as fun as letting off steam here, but if you want to blast the people in charge, there's your sign. They may not provide you the immediate gratification that MaryE and I seem to provide in this outlet, but at least you'll be heard. And creating a record of discontent where it matters makes more sense to me than just venting over here. Thanks for listening. izzie
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    you guys blew it
    by withdrawling the vault downloads series in lossless format you have assured that these recordings will be traded illegaly - most hardcore GD fans i know who collect thousands of hours of recordings aren't going to download any significant quantity of lossy crap from itunes and they aren't going to let the fact that they are no longer available for purchase to stop them from acquiring them. . ITUNES can't even get the name of "MARS HOTEL" right. Most deadheads I know will pay a few cents more for the lossless CD with a case, a cover, and can be converted to a WAV, an MP3 or a FLAC. the itunes track comes in 1 crappy lossy format. dumb move - really really stupid.
  • cosmicbadger
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    thanks to you too Marye....hey I just realised you got that lot for breakfast..sorry..it was lunchtime for me when I lost my cool! I'll get back in my box now!
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    we are passing this on. Thank you.
  • cosmicbadger
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    so there I was happily buying and downloading DPs and Download Series thru Dead.net when I had some spare cash.....then the whole lot stops. Now all I can do is buy Downloads (and only some DPs) thru iTunes you folks in the US may not be aware that iTunes will only sell you items thru the site in the country where your credit card is registered..so I cannot buy from iTunes US. And guess what. iTunes France (where I live) does not sell DP or the Download Series. So I am shut out completely. Folks in Europe only had sporadic chances to see the Dead and now we are not even allowed to hear them! Perhaps this is for the same reasons that French Fries became Freedom Fries!! Who's in charge here? They shut down SBDs on archive.org presumably to make some money, but don't seem to want my hard earned cash. Make your minds up please! Either give it away or let us buy it!!! Look, I know you nice folks who moderate this wonderful site are not personally responsible for this mess, but the fact remains that all the music that was available as downloads thru the old site no longer is on the new one. Can you PLEASE use whatever contacts you have to express just how infuriating this is. Oh and please also say a big big thanks to David L for maintaining the lifeline that is 'Tapers' Section'...............at least someone is thinking of us!! 'Big Boss Man...can't you hear my call??????????
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    I checked out the Download Series on iTunes, and I gotta say, I'm pretty disapointed. They are now only available as 128k sound files in Apple's audio format, what a bummer. When these were for sale on dead.net they were available in multiple file formats, and with no DRM. I really appreciated having these shows available in FLAC format for the great sound quality. I always opted for the FLAC files. And it was nice to have the jewel case inserts to download also. I'm sure the Dead organization have their reasons for doing what they do, but come on, these shows deserve much better treatment then being turned into another overpriced, crappy sounding iTunes product. I don't have the entire Download Series, and I would like to buy the ones that i don't have, but I refuse to buy them from iTunes. These are great shows, please bring them back to dead.net where they belong! And on a much happier note, I love the 3FTV release. Great sound quality, and a great show! My thanks to everyone involved for puting out that fine show. Keep 'em comin' Rhino!
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    Well, I finally received my copy of Three from the Vault today (hooray!). First off, the re-mastering is awesome! Really sounds great.This was an interesting show on many levels (Micky's last show the day before, a slew of new songs). Total rocked out Dead. Lean and mean. No time for subtlety, just hard assed rock and roll here. A prelude to Skull and Roses. Billy really played his heart out on this show! Wow! There were times I think he overplayed a bit, but I think I can empathize (his bother had left and who knew when he would return?) He seemed to be trying to fill in all the space left by Micky. The MVP's of this show were (IMHO) Pigpen and Phil. Pig is in total command during his numbers. Phil is just sick throughout. First set: It's hard to really say much about Loser, Bertha, and Playin'. They sound much like they did the night before. It's unfair to criticize the performances as the band is still feeling their way around the songs. Okay, so Truckin' takes a little bit to get truckin' but eventually they manage to get something going. Cumberland is tight and fun, despite the lyrical flubs (who cares about missed lyrics at this point anyway? I just fill it in myself). Dark Hollow is a nice little nugget. I don't think I've ever heard an electric version before. The band throws out a stunted and perfunctory China, but they really get running during a spirited Rider. The MVP of the first set is Pigpen. Man he is in great voice throughout, really pushing the band. It Hurts me Too and Smokestack are incredible. I've always thought the Dead's blues playing was as if really advanced and hip aliens from Alpha Centauri had learned to play the blues and genetically engineered Pigpen from the DNA of Lightnin' Hopkins and Odetta. Interstellar blues! I love Jerry's eerie hoots and whistles during Pigs rap in Smokestack. Set Two: Greatest Story and Deal are to new to really comment on. But Bird Song is a nice debut. Raw, but well performed. Wharf Rat, on the other hand, seems as if it had been sprung Athena-like from the ether as a fully formed song. Sure it would become a bit more dynamic, but this performance, as well as the debut performance the night before, are brilliant. (The Wharf Rat on 2/18 comes out of Dark Star and goes into Beautiful Jam>Dark Star. Yeah.) So, to continue, I actually like the JBG here. I've never really thought the boys ever did JBG justice, but this one is alright. Easy wind is some more psychedelic-swamp blues. Very tasty grooves. Pig is in full command. That's it For The Other One gets tasty during the Other One section. Phil is really on fire. This would be a good version to play for someone you want to turn on to the Dead. Good Lovin' is fun. Pig's rap is funny, although he seems to run out of steam toward the end. Maybe a few minutes too long. All in all, a decent release. Sound is stellar; can't ask for much better than this. A lot of green curios I probably won't listen to much, but a few kick ass bluesy performances I'll definitely return to! Yo Soy Boricua!
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    After reading all the comments and replys. It seems you guys have really sold out. It's a real shame, and I'm sorry to say, that Jerry isn't stearing this ship anymore. I can imagine he's spinning like a top where ever he is. iTunes only. Apple is the Beatles. They, that were left, should have done all they could to have Jobs and co. change the name in the very beginning. While I don't particully like Bill G. and his hold on OSs etc. I won't buy into i.... anything. Everything I've learned is from The Grateful Dead and Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
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    It's all good Izzie. No
    It's all good Izzie. No problems getting the first release (1-1-77!). **it happens. I will survive.
  • izzie
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    Jeeze, REK. I'm sorry you've had to deal with this. I'll get this to the attention of the store folks, but that's all we can do here. Customer Service is supposed to be getting better, for what that's worth. Our admin folk here on this side of the house are as blown away as we are about the level of service at the Store.
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Discuss here! (And if the show of your dreams isn't out yet, post your request here: https://www.dead.net/forum/top-my-request-list.)
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It was a mirage my friends, a fever dream brought on by the heat. The desert does strange things to a man, and you may see things that aren't really there. Wonderous visions of CD/DVD packages that miraculously unfold into pyramid-thingies, imaginary road trips of your imagination populated by camel-riding skeletons and bridges in the clouds. Web pages that appear and disappear in the blink of an eye, leaving only a tiny after image of an album cover to mark their passing. Have a cool drink, find a comfortable seat, and wait. And wait. And wait, in breathless antici.................pation. Perhaps the visions will come again.
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OK, the information on Dick's Vol. 23 states that it's from two shows on February 23 and 24, 1968, in Lake Tahoe. Anyone got any idea which songs are from which shows? A Also, the photo in the CD tray shows a marquee listing a third date (the February 22), which makes me wonder if a tape exists for that, as well. And were these shows really at a bowling alley, as suggested by the other photo in the tray?
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Hi guys It used to be possible to download PDF cover art for every release - these just disappeared at one point. I've purchased a lot of Dick's Picks and Download Series from the website in the last year and assumed that cover art was supposed to be included with downloads because in the downloading tool, a picture of the cover would appear in a little window. However I've never received any cover art files (except for the Road Trips Full Show downloads). I contacted GD Customer Service and was told that cover art is not offered. This seems a bit odd to me - front and back PDFs were available for download for any downloadable release, whether one had purchased it or not. Now that I am purchasing several downloads, I'm apparently not entitled even to a picture of the front or back of the CD. Does anyone have any idea where I could get these? I find it bizarre that the official website no longer provides cover art for downloadable versions of its own products, after having high quality scans up previously. It's no great loss I suppose but I'd really like to print out covers so the spines of my Dead CD downloads aren't all back. Any thoughts?
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I was planning on buying some of the Dick's Picks CD's that I was missing, but when I checked the store, I see quite a few of the ones I wanted are only available as downloads. Are there any plans to do any reprints, are you guys basically done with the CD format?
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For the Download series but not Dicks Picks you get them in jpeg format from loathemegacorp dot com/deadpieshop
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Thank you so much cosmicbadger. That's perfect. I knew they'd be somewhere - I just didn't know where. I can't figure out why they are no longer available from dead.net. Sure, I've elected to download a release instead of buy the CD (in the case of Dick's Picks) but that's not to say I don't burn the tracks to disc as soon as I get them. The fact that these used to be available and suddenly disappeared, apparently intentionally, rather than inadvertantly as I had hoped/assumed, is puzzling. Anyway, thanks again cosmicbadger. Maybe there are Dick's Picks cover art scans out there somewhere.
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If somebody has downloaded a legal version of a DP, and somebody who has a store bought physical copy makes a cover scan and gives it to the first person free of charge, is there a copyright violation or would it be considered fair use? Or will a Rhino lawyer use some pissy little thing like that to justify their existence? Hmmm. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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<> Don't they usually give you a chance to case and desist before they actually sue? I probably wouldn't mind downloading the Dick's Picks releases I don't have, if I could also download all the appropriate artwork so I can print up my own version that at least looks like the originals when they're sitting in the CD box next to the others.
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I am trying to complete my collection of CD's of Dick's Picks, I need #28, 30,32,33 which currently can only be abtained by down loading the music. Is any one willing to sell or burn for me these Dick's Picks CD's? P.S. see you all in Denver on May 7th.Native
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hey bobsdead, the downloads are available here, and worth every little penny. Also you can try the Ameoba Records in Berkely, or the one on Haight Street, they carry many of the dick's picks cd's both new and used. If you haven't been there it worth the flight out, these are the best music stores on the planet.Good luck!
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the last dicks picks i purchased was 24, how far did they go and where can i get them, i got 24 at a music shop in ohio by my house, they dont carry them anymore.Phatmoye
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But some of them are hard to find, and expensive. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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36 wow! Got som catcn up to do.Phatmoye
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DP 28, used/like new - cheapest thru an amazon marketplace seller is $99 + shipping. I'd be checking local used CD places first. Amazon was the only place I checked, but there were four or five (from 28 up) that appeared to be unavailable as new. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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I saw that there were a number of problems with one of the cuts on the Winterland 73 Box set. Have all the faulty discs been replaced. That is, going forward, when I order the box set and I guaranteed an error free disc 2? Thanks! "Is maith an scéalaí an aimsir." Time is a great storyteller. -- Irish Proverb
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I think so, but I will pass this question on to those who know for sure and report back.
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Bobsdead, I feel your pain when it comes to completing my DP collection. The last one I need is DP 33, which is an especially killer release anyway. I kept putting off buying it, for simple economics, dang. I guess it will be a fun hunt looking for an afffordable copy somewhere. Its funny, I have no problem with the idea of downloading Road Trips releases, but the DP packaging is just so cool... plus there's the whole "collection" thing. I just don't feel as loyal to Road Trips as a "thing" (but love the music on them, for the most part). So, the quest for DP33 begins. PS, not that I HAVE all the other DPs - I never bought DP 9, 17, 30, or 32 either, for various reasons. My AUD recording of 8/7/82 (awesome show and tour) is so great that even the cleaned up SBD on DP32 is a let down, for example.
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As the DP series goes out of print, if you own them look on the bright side: You can sell them for outrageous prices and fund a semester of your kid's college education, lol. (but, they'll have to pry my DP's from my cold, dead, fingers).
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I contacted customer service the other day about whether DP 33 would be reprinted on CD, and they told me the store would get them back in on CD sometime in the future (not much more specific than that). I kind of get the sense Rhino is reprinting all of them as they go out of print. I only started buying archival Dead releases in the last four years or so, and haven't had much trouble getting any of them (except DP33). All the Dick's Picks I've ordered up until recently came with the old Grateful Dead Recordings logo, but the two I ordered most recently (DP22 and DP24) both came with a Rhino label.
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I have about 15 dicks picks, and recently was informed that there missing alot of songs for complete shows. For instance, DP 1 is 1 disc, but, theres like 10 tracks at the beginning of the show that arnt on the original DP. I've downloaded the complete shows now. Why would they release only part of the show and call it DP? Just curious thats all. Peace- Moye
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I have about 15 dicks picks, and recently was informed that there missing alot of songs for complete shows. For instance, DP 1 is 1 disc, but, theres like 10 tracks at the beginning of the show that arnt on the original DP. I've downloaded the complete shows now. Why would they release only part of the show and call it DP? Just curious thats all. Peace- Moye
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I have about 15 dicks picks, and recently was informed that there missing alot of songs for complete shows. For instance, DP 1 is 1 disc, but, theres like 10 tracks at the beginning of the show that arnt on the original DP. I've downloaded the complete shows now. Why would they release only part of the show and call it DP? Just curious thats all. Peace- Moye
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Anyone know what happened to the 03 and 04 the Dead recordings that were for sale at Munckmusic . Will they be back? Will the upcomming spring 09 tour be for sale?Any help appreciated
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Handfulls, thanks for the info about Rhino (possibly) putting DPs back in print. The DP scalpers will be so sad...
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I read somewhere that when the Dicks Picks first started they did not think folks would buy lots of multi CD sets so they just put out 'best bits'. Later on they put out near complete shows, missing out some set 1 tunes so they could fit (for example) most of 1 show on 2 discs. Later on the releases got more and more complete. A good place to find out what exactly is on each DP and what is missing is here: thebestofwebsite dot com and follow links through the Grateful Dead Live. CB
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Hi all - just an FYI, based on our discussion in spring about the DPs going out of print. With no fanfare or announcement, they are indeed reprinting DPs. Or at least, I found that DP 33 was back on CD (and immediately ordered it). The operator actually told me it was not available on CD, and I pointed out that the website now said it was, she confirmed it with her supervisor, and yeay! It is on its way. So, if anyone is wanting to fill in those DP gaps, now would be a good time (and I feel sorry for any poor slobs who actually paid 100 bucks for a DP on ebay...) The only other DPs I don't have are 9, 17, 30, and 32. I can't stand the keyboard wash on 9 and 17, and my AUD of DP 32 sounds way better than the SBD to me, but should I get DP 30? Not too blown away by what I've heard, but I've only heard samples of those shows...
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Wolfgang's Vault have started selling GD whole show downloads in MP3 and FLAC starting with the late show from May 15 1970 $9.99 per set http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/grateful-dead/concerts/fillmore-east-may-… http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/grateful-dead/concerts/fillmore-east-may-… more to come soon apparently. Not sure about the quality, but you can stream them first to test
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Apparently November 3rd is 'Cracking the Vault' day and a whole raft of material '100s of shows' will appear. It is not clear what the quality will be of these tapes (not all GD btw), to what extent they have or have not been remastered and how many of them are already out there in torrent land (possibly already remastered by Mr Miller and the like). I am hanging on to my credit card till we get a chance to see what is on offer. still its exciting and may encourage the rhino mob to pull their fingers out and start selling more whole shows as downloads. A price war on Grateful Dead shows looms???? My its easy to forget how lucky we are to have all these choices and options to worry and argue about :-)
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just wondering if anyone knows when the bonus discs stopped coming in plain white sleeves? I learned about all these bonus discs not too long ago and now have to aquire them and need to know the facts so i dont get screwed when i buy "sealed" ones, cause its already happened
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but I have never seen a bonus disc come in a plain white sleeve, so caveat emptor.
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Well...cause im looking at gettin the fillmore west 69 box set, and ive asked people selling them, and theyve said the bonus disc comes in a plain white sleeve, also road trips vol 1 no 3 on ebay says the bonus disc comes in white paper sleeve. so if anyone can assist me in my efforts to get all the bonus discs it would be greatly appreciated
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The bonus disc for the 69 Fillmore West box definitely did come in a plain white sleeve, but I believe it was included inside the box, so if the box is indeed sealed (which I would be surprised if it was) then the bonus disc should be in there. The Winterland 73 and 77 box sets each included a bonus disc in its own sleeve, but it wasn't plain white, and again it was included inside the box. I know that Rockin' the Rhein also included a bonus disc but I don't know whether it was in a plain white sleeve or not.
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Maybe it wasn't Rockin the Rhein, but instead the early 72 Music Academy Dick's Pick that I am thinking of, not sure.
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The bonus disk with my copy of the three disk Fillmore West set also came in a plain white sleeve.
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yea i know theres 18 bonus discs all together starting with postcards of the hanging from arista, and yes your correct there is one with rockin the rhein, i know what all cds they came with just need to know which ones were plain sleeves so when im looking for them for sale i know if people are lying about it being sealed and such, im real picky and just learned about bonus discs in time to pre order winterland 77. but yea on amazon theres a few fillmore boxes for sale and some are sealed still, given they do cost a fortune, i must have one, i must have all dead on cd that is available in flawless condition, its gonna be rough but im ready for the long haul
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yea i noticed this prally isnt the right forum thing to be asking all this but i dont know what ohter one to do it in so sorry?
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HELLO EVERYONE, OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS I HAVE BEEN PURCHASING EVERYTHING GRATEFUL DEAD I CAN GET MY HANDS ON BUT I AM 2 PIECES SHORT OF A COMPLETE COLLECTION. I AM MISSING VIEW FROM THE VAULT II SOUNDTRACK CD AND RARE CUTS AND ODDITIES 1966 ON CD. WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHEN POSSIBLY THESE TWO AWESOME PIECES WILL BE IN PRINT ANYTIME SOON SO I CAN PURCHASE THEM. (I'M MAINLY CONCERNED WITH VIEW FROM THE VAULT II BECAUSE I'VE FOUND RARE CUTS AND ODDITIES ON AMAZON'S MP3 SITE AND MIGHT HAVE TO DOWNDLOAD IF NEED BE) THANKS
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I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO SEE A COMPLETE RUN OF SHOWS IN A BOX SET OF THE RUN OF SHOWS THAT MADE UP THE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN: THE GRATEFUL DEAD CD COLLECTION.
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i agree to a boxed set of 1971 April Fillmore run. I love the Beach Boys segment of it, i don't think you can listen to it on archive.org, because it says this music is an Official Release... Just go ahead and release the whole run, in the correct order please..Ha!! One thought i have though is about the bonus disks.... I really wish they would be available for download for the unfortunate few of us that are poor. If, later on down the road, i buy any of the older Road Trip releases, it says-sorry the bonus disk is no longer available. I just wish that it you can pay a 4.99 fee or so, and download the disk. Just my $.02 worth.... Can't really complain though.. No one is complaining, no, come in and shut the door. Set the Sails. Fire up the Grate Psychedelic Rocket Powered Bus. Into the Land of the Dead. Terrapin. Dead Ahead!
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http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/concerts/support/downloads.html huge selection of Grateful Dead shows now for sale as downloads from Wolfgangs Vault. Many other bands too. I am not sure how they squared this away with Rhino and the Band, but it all seems legit. Also I have no idea of the quality of the material or how it compares with the soundboards that already circulate. Not cheap either at $9.98 per set. So much good stuff there....
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I'm also intereseted in when View from the Vault 2 will be back in print. I'd also like to know what happened to the digital download series. Are there any plans to bring them back?
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Is any of the video vault shot in HD or suitable for conversion to HD/Blu-Ray? I'm watching Ticket to New Year's now as I normally do this time of year, and as with some of the other DVD's it is pretty blurry when not displaying close-up shots (especially on an HD TV). I would probably upgrade to Blu-Ray on the DVD's I have and would be interested in new Blu-Ray releases more so than new DVD releases. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -enjoyin' the ride -There'll never be another Jerry
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For the life of me, I don't know why the Download Series shows have been pulled from the store. Sure, they probably don't get MUCH traffic, but there are some of us who either joined the site late or who are SLOWLY, album by album, picking up all of the stuff here as money becomes available. I've been grabbing all of the new releases for over a year now, and I've managed to snag a few of the Dick's Picks sets that I didn't already have; however, with the $100+ each for the two Winterland boxes and my decision to dl all of the 2009 The Dead shows as they came out, it's sometimes hard to anticipate what will and won't be available here from one day to the next. All I know for sure is that, after the most recent site redesign a couple of months ago, all of the Download Series shows disappeared. My fervent hope is that they are being remastered for HDCD release. Sure, I know that the Download Series is still available on iTunes, but I want the high quality FLAC downloads, not the crappy MP3 versions. Additionally, I would vastly prefer to spend my money here rather than to purchase through a middle man or a retail outlet--support the music, support the musicians! Finally, although it doesn't affect me in any way (since I've already got the complete run of official downloads), what's up with offering the different The Dead 2009 shows at different prices, ranging from $12.99 to $20.99? I burned every show from FLAC to CD and, without exception, they are all 3-CD sets, and from the shortest to the longest ones there are only a couple of minutes' difference in total show length.
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Does anyone know when View from the Vault II CD will be back in stock? It is a shame to see out of print titles such as this one going on Ebay for major bucks. An auction just ended for VFTV II for over $140! I am trying to complete my collection and I simply can't afford to be paying these kinds of dollars.
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Now the Store is just being cruel...I click on the VFTV II item and it adds to my cart. I enter my info and when it processes my order, it says it isn't in stock! HELP!!!
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suggest you do not under any circumstances email customer services. i did last october and sent repeated reminders. their tactic is either to completely ignore the messages or refer you to the website which refers you to customer (dis) services, bit of a catch 22 me-thinks, i once got a reply to one of my enquiries to the effect that customer services were "taking up the issue with management". but pearls of wisdom were not forthcoming. christ on a bike. this is not rocket science. perhaps the more people who raise the enquiry the more chance of a proper reply but i would not bet on this.
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The comment on emailing Customer Services is spot on. However, I'm delighted the need to email customer services has dimished significantly now that the web site store works. Happy Trails