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    An institution in American rock music, the Grateful Dead continue to surprise the ears with new arrangements and altered styles. If their playing continues with the force that was heard in San Bernardino, the spirit of the Dead will live on. - Sun Telegram

    We are more than pleased to kick off this year's Dave's Picks series with the much requested and quite spirited complete performance from Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA 2/26/77. The Swing ’77 show was a unique beast, unlike any others from this era: as the band’s first concert of the year, it bridged the gap between the new and re-emerging sound of the returning 1976 Grateful Dead and the precision excellence of the spring ’77 Dead. Debuting two of their most intricately crafted songs of the 1970s, “Terrapin Station” (to open, no less!) and “Estimated Prophet,” the Dead demonstrated right from the start of this new touring year that they were not going to be a nostalgia act; they were going to be as adventurous and ambitious as they were at any time in their career.

    Join the adventure as they soar through tried and true ("Playing In The Band," "Tennessee Jed"), well-loved covers ("Mama Tried," "Samson and Delilah," "Dancing In the Street"), and epic new jams.

    Rounded out with three songs from Santa Barbara, CA 2/27/77, this one was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Dave's Picks Volume 29 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Autotransportcity
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    That IS the primary time I've seen you post a final five Jimbo. i am perpetually game for hearing what everyone seems to be spinning.

    Jeff Smith - perpetually nice to listen to from you chum.

    Sixtus - i am going to second the feeling on another One dissection.

    Charlie3 - you have got American state trying forward to the opposite One on 4/11 Newcastle-upon-Tyne. If it's somebody's favorite American state, it's ought to be sensible. the opposite One is that the single most troublesome song on behalf of me to recall from show to point out on Europe seventy two. Everything else on E72 I will just about bear in mind the good ones from the extremely extremely f****** awing ones. For E72 alternative Ones, I just about recall 4/21 & 4/26. you'll marvel however i used to be ready to acquire a Ph.D. in Europe seventy two considering that circumstance, but my thesis was on Dark Star, Openers, and Lovelights; and in fact I did case studies on Mid-length Jams and sometimes vie Numbers; my short essay was Stage Banter and alternative Exciting Moments. you'll see however I got by with therefore very little memory of all those different Ones.

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    First, you can't beat the 19 minute Truckin'. I am a little puzzled on why they separated the extended Truckin' jam on 4/16 Denmark into it's own JAM track, but not here. Not important, just things that make one ponder.

    I love this Other One. Very rockin', and Pigpen is all over the Hammond in the first 5 minutes, and again later. This to me is what we signed him up for. He plays sparsely but effectively, and when he's engaged you know it. They pretty much rock much of the first half, which is to my liking. There are some slower melodic passages where you can finally hear Keith's piano (it's a crime what was omitted from him in the mix); if you really want to know what that man contributed on the grand piano in '72, Sunshine Daydream is the to go (and Rockin' the Rhein to some extent). Jeffrey Norman on these very boards said he would like a shot at a remix. I have the impression he was rushed through the process. And love Rhino though I do, they were clearly aware of the problem, as they brought hyper-focus to Keith's performance in the liner notes on the Dusseldorf show from April 24th. He is present to a great degree on that one because they simply used The Rockin' the Rhein mix, which as we all know was released few years prior as a single project, so Jeff Norman had the time he needed. Otherwise, Keith just kind of floats in and out of the mixes. Shame too, because these multi-tracks captured him in his grand piano playing zenith. The '71 shows featured more stand-up piano, so you don't get that rich tone of the grand. The two tracks from 2nd half 72 capture some of it. Anyway, major tangent.

    The Other One! Don't think I missed the foray into Feelin Groovey, which came along nicely. The first 15 minutes are pure uptempo bliss, with some mid-tempo interludes. Bobby plays heavily into the sound on that kickass Gibson ES, and Bill the drummer just continues to carve out his niche as most underrated drummer in the world. I mean, WE know what the man does every night, but I've never seen his name in a discussion of the best. I'm not talking top 10, but somewhere in the top 20 he deserves a spot (certainly before Stuart Copeland). But I digress again.

    Next is what I call Bass Space. Phil leads the Space Jam, or at least trades off with Jerry, while Keith does his Space Pie-anner thing. The atonal stuff comes next, but only for a couple minutes, and then they come full circle back the main theme to close things out, as the bus comes by and Bobby gets on. A+ Thanks for the inspiration to pay closer attention. And then we get one of Brother Jim's favs in the aftermath, as Comes A Time rises quietly out of the sweat and tears.

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    No worries DaveRock (I edited my post to provide the time period).

    Regarding DP 12 (June 74), I agree with Sixtus. That is one of the best releases of all time. Is there a better China>Rider than this?

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    Good point, and I tend to agree. Many cds have been released that feature great music, but which don't feature the whole show. As has been said before, we are not listening to live music when we are listening to cds/downloads etc-we are listening to the recording of live music . A totally different thing. What works while you are in the hall doesn't necessarily work when you are sitting at home. A case in point for me might be that Live Dead 69 show I recently went to. I loved the show-but I would be very surprised if the magic I experienced there would be evident on a live recording.

    Also-I hope you don't mind me saying - but I often have no idea what show is being referred to if it is just referred to as DP, Daves Picks, Road Trips etc. without a date being included. I know that DP7 is a compilation of the London shows from 1974-but I don't know which other shows you are referring to. I know I could get up and go upstairs to have a look. But I tend not to. No offence intended.

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    ...more on 4/11/72...

    ...Still ahead of the game so far here but I did go back again last night and listened to the Truckin' > Drums > Other One > Comes a Time > Sugar Mag from this show....what a wallop to the gut this is! BUT- what I really noticed this time (on top of the in and out of crazy that the Other One does all wrapped around a Feelin' Groovy) was the tail end of that Truckin'...it absolutely heads into TOTAL JAZZ for several minutes before it spills over into drums. Just some really interesting bass work by Phil that leads them off into this slower beat but very jazzy feel. When I had listened to 4/11 the other night, it was lost on me that this portion of Truckin' was actually Truckin'....I assumed it had landed in The Other One territory by that point....but no. I will probably listen to this suite again one more time before I cheat and get ahead to 4/14.....an all-time favorite. That Dark Star - oh boy.

    Appreciate the enthusiasm for these Other Ones....it's palpable.

    Sixtus

    P.S. 80s Fan - I'm ALL IN on DP12 - one of the best things they've ever released. Don't care it's chopped, what we got was pure gold.

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    been listening to:
    DP 7 (London 1974)
    DP 12 (Boston Music Hall 1973)
    DP 14 (June 74)
    DP 31 (Aug 74)

    I know we all like complete shows, but if more compilation albums were released like the ones I just mentioned I'd be totally fine with it. Especially for eras where there aren't great tapes for whatever reason - just combine what exists and I doubt any of us would be unhappy...

    EDIT: Added the time periods to each release!

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    I have just noticed your post on Sergeant Pepper. I am not sure if its the big box of Sergeant Pepper you are considering buying, but if you are-its well worth it. A beautiful book, three discs of outtakes,a documentary on dvd, but best of all, the best stereo version of the album that I have ever heard-plus the mono version-which many people, including me ( and John Lennon) consider to be superior to the stereo. This was how the album was intended to sound by The Beatles themselves - although this new stereo version is great too.
    Also nice to see the original promo films for Penny Lane and, especially Strawberry Fields Forever.

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    ....track seven. THAT'S the best Cumberland ever!! My "wtf is that" moment when I first heard it on E72 back in '86. That was my bus stop my friends. Engrained in my grey matter to this day. As far as Newcastle goes, I'll be honest, I don't think I've spun that since 4.11.18. I remember loving it, and it falls in between the Vegas Golden Knights playoff schedule, so I'm all in Thursday knight. People get ready.
    Been binging on Alan Parsons for a bloody week now. Yay! So much music, so little time. Now news of some remastered '75 Garcia & Friends? The garden is indeed producing surprising fruit....
    .... edit. Cumberland.
    ....double edit. The new White Album release. I sampled some of my favorite tracks. Rocky Raccoon, Glass Onion, Dear Prudence....wait a sec. That list will get too long. I didn't sample the songs I don't like. Honey Pie, Savoy Truffle, Back In The USSR. I loved it!! The Beatles were very good. Junk and What's The New Mary Jane were fun. Spotifyed it. Not cheap, even though you get 107 tracks for your bucks.
    BTW. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da is one of the best sing-a-long songs ever penned. La-la, how the life goes on indeed. You Go Desmond and Molly Jones!!

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    Kiethfan, I'll be curious to hear your thoughts after hearing that Newcastle Other one, there is just something about it that really works for me. This time I was really listening for the jam Sixtus was pointing out earlier. Good stuff. I have been meaning to listen to Dusseldorf 4/24/72, perhaps my favorite show and favorite Dark Stars from all of E'72, but I am waiting till I have a long block of time to focus on it so it isn't just background while I work. Also, my wife needs to be out as 3 hours or so of loud dead will be likely to wear on her unless she is in just the right mood.

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    Thanks Marye and Nitecat, I appreciate the input on those 50th anniversary Beatles discs, moved me another step closer to the apparently inevitable purchase. After reading a description of the remix and a wide variety of opinions about it's sound on a stevehoffman thread I am pretty intrigued. And the extra stuff looks cool, so glad to see that's what you folks thought as well. I saw someone describe the acoustic stuff on the White Album as the Beatles Unplugged.
    Jim, I counted your list twice and came up with a last 6 both times;) ( Unless you are counting the Electric Eel and Acoustic Eel as a singular item)

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An institution in American rock music, the Grateful Dead continue to surprise the ears with new arrangements and altered styles. If their playing continues with the force that was heard in San Bernardino, the spirit of the Dead will live on. - Sun Telegram

We are more than pleased to kick off this year's Dave's Picks series with the much requested and quite spirited complete performance from Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA 2/26/77. The Swing ’77 show was a unique beast, unlike any others from this era: as the band’s first concert of the year, it bridged the gap between the new and re-emerging sound of the returning 1976 Grateful Dead and the precision excellence of the spring ’77 Dead. Debuting two of their most intricately crafted songs of the 1970s, “Terrapin Station” (to open, no less!) and “Estimated Prophet,” the Dead demonstrated right from the start of this new touring year that they were not going to be a nostalgia act; they were going to be as adventurous and ambitious as they were at any time in their career.

Join the adventure as they soar through tried and true ("Playing In The Band," "Tennessee Jed"), well-loved covers ("Mama Tried," "Samson and Delilah," "Dancing In the Street"), and epic new jams.

Rounded out with three songs from Santa Barbara, CA 2/27/77, this one was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Dave's Picks Volume 29 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Hmmmm I guess you don't have to be a fanatic to make good art for fanatics:

"Favorite Dead Era/Years:

Hard to say but as an MTV kid it’s probably the 80’s.

Desert Island Dead

I’d probably grab one of their greatest of albums.

Being A Dead Head Means…

Being a skeleton and listening to cool music."

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Thanks for posting that, it's the first time I've seen it. Very amusing....I guess the interview went something like this:

Rhino: Can you draw skeletons?
Artist: Yes

Rhino: Hmmm. Okay we'll get back to you next week and let you know.

Arist: I can make them Tie-dyed with Coat-tails and Top-hats if you want.

Rhino: You're hired.

Unless it was Samuel L Jackson conducting the interview, in which case the last line would have been: "well shit, mother f*****! That's all you had to say!"

Bolo, hang in there buddy, my condolences.

....what comes around, goes around. Trade for all the Santa Barbara reels the following night? If so, you've peaked my interest.

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….is that they pre-announce the releases for the first half of the year. So there will be no surprises until mid July.

I would almost rather not know what the releases are going to be. Once that new box smell wears off and we get discs that don't skip, the adventure is 85% over.

I guess it's a good opportunity to hit the archive.

Happy weekend all..

With 2 announcements out of the way we’re perfectly set up for a February Box announcement.

But seriously folks, we need an additional avenue of releases established. Something to fill in the gaps while we wait for the 4 yearly DaPs and occasional Box. Time to resurrect the From The Vault series and start throwing a few bones to SpaceBro, and the rest of us who want all eras released (as long as they sound good).

Condolences Señor Bolo.
May the Force be with you and your family.

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Yeah, what the kid said. More releases. More eras!
Like Kayak guy used to say, more series with different levels or tiers depending on quality etc.

Jim: kinda like Xmass, all about the anticipation.
Once the presents are unwrapped it’s mostly over.
Oh sure you dig your knew stuff and have new tunes/toys to play with,
but the big rush is before and up to the big reveal ; )

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Yes, I couldn't agree with you all that we need more, but I am not sure Rhino will be putting out more than the 4 Dave's and the Annual Box. They seem to be content with this mode. And everything they do now is limited edition pre-order.
I wish they would bring back unlimited stand alone releases like Live at the Cow Palace, To Terrapin, Trucking up to Buffalo, etc. Europe 72 single shows. Those days seem to be gone.

Sure would love a February box release announcement, but it might not be till June like last year. Hope I am wrong.

Mixed bag Jim, another bad thing about the big reveal is everyone plays the shit out the copy they have, so wow factor is lower. There are times when the "official release" is only marginally better, because the boards have been bounced around forever, may hurt sales a bit, but maybe a little "honestly" on their part. Seems there are always the voices they say, "I won't buy UNLESS I know".

But whole heartily agree with more releases, how about a Dave's every two months. Maybe this shit takes a long time to do and can't hammer them out faster? Maybe a new vein of download shows, that are of lesser quality. Would that vein's leader have to clear shows with Dave?

Maybe remaining Dead members and family want a steady income stream for their heirs. Certainly their right.

In the end, the archive is there.

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Heeeeeyyyy yaaaaaa

got a b u n c h of GD from my source recently.

listening to 7/1/66

Dancin' reprise gets cut a little short

oh well

then here come some surprise tracks...Jerry on banjo and buddies...1964 era stuff

nice surprise

mo' Dave's!

FW Feb 70 box set

many of the tracks I have heard have splices or are cut, however.

hey, we have _s_o_m_e_ of it.

36.5 years into the LST and there are still pleasant surprises and gems to be discovered.

GOD BLESS THE GRATEFUL DEAD

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Four Dave's a year, plus bonus disc ('scrip is the only way to go) and a box or two seems absolutely perfect. Some of the boxes are less affordable than others... I hate for hardcore heads to not be able to afford all of this. For me, it slakes my thirst, I mean I have many, many thousands of songs in my library and I listen to an average minimum of 3 to 4 hours of Dead 365 days a year - on weekends easily much more. On a good Saturday at home these tunes could run from 6 am to 1am the next day. If I get a bad jones to buy something, there's always tons of random bootlegs, radio broadcasts, etc. to be found on amazon, eBay, etc. Not to mention the plethora of Dead & Co. live releases... I think Rhino sticks to their proven model and we all live happily ever after.

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I wonder if they will all cycle back around eventually, only a few at one time though. As an example, right now you can pick up Closing of Winterland but maybe when that sells out they'll bring back Cow Palace.

Or, some of it might be tied into unspoken agreements made with Apple to have them handle the downloads for the time being.

....guess not. Must have been the acid.
https://youtu.be/miCDPzJHvjk
....her look at 5:37 is the look. The same look I've looked when I couldn't explain something I was seeing/feeling/experiencing. All these years later, I still can't explain it. The Beatles "I'm Looking Through You" takes on a whole new meaning, when one sees that she's looking through the interviewer.

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Older yes,
Wiser....????
Not if you’re on the Homer Simpson ‘Kill your brain with beer’ plan. But I digress.
Wait, where was I?

Watching the Disco Biscuits on youtube, which is a band that I never paid attention to before, but had heard of years ago. My first impression is: Phish meets Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.
I’ll keep watching....

But I first must pass the reCRAPTCHA exam of buses driving over fire hydrants on crosswalks while ignoring traffic lights....

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There's also the Record Store Day album to look forward to. I am expecting the 2/28/69 Fillmore West show to be released on vinyl sometime soon. I think I read somewhere that the whole run was going to be released on vinyl-which can't come soon enough!

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I'm down with that. Groundbreaking performances recorded using the best recording technologies for live music available at the time.

as a bonus.. they have my favorite GD album covers and shine in the larger format. Classic GD miles removed from cartoonish skeletons and skulls with Smurf-like beards. Classic.

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Personally I like and agree with idea of more releases. I have been able to catch up on many that I did not have and now I sit fairly complete with what I want. Of course more is never a bad thing, but more of what? I do think that the model of 4 Dave's per year (with a bonus disc) and a box is good. Someone else already said this but it would be cool if they would release unlimited (so to speak) single shows. Maybe one or two per year? They could focus on these releases as being ones that are less popular or desirable. Now I am not saying these are going to be bad shows, just ones that are not readily sought after. For me I so desperately want a release of 1/24/71 for example, how about that? Or they could flp the model and do the highly desirable and popular shows as special one-off releases. Great examples of that that have been done already are 8/27/72, 5/8/77, 7/8/78,3/29/90. I would like to see the Dave's PIcks series be the main conduit to which we get great sounding, complete shows that have a degree of variety. I think that is what has happened to date.

Or another way to go about the single one off releases would be to produce partial shows. I know Dave is always talking about shows where they only have so many reels in the vault. If any show is not going to be complete due to missing reels then that would be one should to see the light of day. It may never be complete so why hold back on a release of it? It would be similar to a taper's section release except only parts of the show is being releases because that is all they have. I mean the filler for o. 20 form Santa Barbara is going to be a great treat. It will fir on great on this release but say for example that wasn't the case. It would still be great if it was able to be put out there for all, even though it is only a few songs.

Anyway this is all just fun ideas and talk. Good times in any case.

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This might sound like a daft thing to ask but can anyone tell me why is it that you can get pretty much everything on iTunes but the daves picks series ( dicks picks / road trips / all of Europe 72 and nearly all of the one offs )
I would love to hear some of the early Dave stuff but unless I remortgage the house and buy them on eBay I’ve no chance .
Any thoughts ?

Just gave it a spin, very nice.
Ready for the rest of the FW 69 shows to come out on vinyl.

Now going with 6-29-76, in solid state micro SDXC card form.

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....not possible Mr. Cat. Spotify is your friend though. All the recent Dead & Co releases are up and running. Im not an Apple fan, so my knowledge may be lacking in certain fields.

...I’m in love with this set list, wish I had a computer...

XL Center, Hartford, CT (11/22/17)
1. Iko, Iko
2. Shakedown Street
3. They Love Each Other
4. Loose Lucy
5. Friend Of The Devil
6. Bird Song
7. Estimated Prophet
8. Eyes Of The World
9. China Doll
10. The Other One
11. Drums
12. Space
13. Spanish Jam
14. Black Peter
15. Uncle John's Band
16. U.S. Blues
17. Knockin' On Heaven's Door

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Is it still available at normal price anywhere?

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They seem to have some for $85 + shipping on eBay. Honestly.. I would have thought it would be higher by now.

I forget what they were when first released..

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$70.05 on Amazon.

I paid $80 or more on release day (and I’m not even a robot).

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Do robots get discounts? A strong sign we going to lose the fight against AI.

In the leadup to the swing, I couldn't help but heed the call from those here re: Cow Palace 12/31/76. So I gave it a spin last week as a precursor to very next show played, 2/26/77 The Swing. I had forgotten what a great show that was and the stunning multi-track recording makes this a rare gem.. The recording and mix were so clear I got side tracked and fixated on the vocals during my last listen.

The Help on the Way>Slipknot!>NFA>Morning Dew is stupendous. Regarding the Dew, with the exception of 1972, I think this version might have the cleanest, best recorded vocals of the bunch. I would also contend the vocals were a bit stronger in this version then any of the four played in Europe.. the song was simply more mature by then and Jerry had not started is vocal decline.. yet.

But it got me thinking.

We have 30 Dave's Picks either released or announced. Of these, we have 9 Dark Stars appearing on 8 Dave's Picks (DaP 6 had two). Two of these appear only on bonus discs (6 and 10). We only have two Morning Dews appearing on Dave's Picks (DaP 5 and DaP 13. 13 has both a Dark Star>Morning Dew).

Some history, Dark Star was played 231 times, first played I think in the studio on 11/14/67, last played on 3/30/94. Most of these were in the early years and they took many breaks from the song, some extended. Between October '74 and October '89, it was only played a handful of times with a 4 year and a 5 year absence.

Morning Dew was played 257 times, first played at the Human Bee In on 1/14/67 and last played on 6/21/95. It was played at least once a year with the exception of 1975. I wouldn't call it a rarity, but it really wasn't played that often. To me, it seemed they saved it for special occasions or rotated it just when they needed it most.

So it seems we are due a few Morning Dew's. If we go back a year one might say the same thing about Help>Slipknot!>Franklins Tower, and blammo.. we get three in a row. 2019 into 2020 might very well be Dew heavy.

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more releases? with skips and scratches? no thanks, get the manufacturing part right and then release more, I'm down with that for sure. 85.00 for one record? wow, you guys really are fans.

Well.. it's pressed on four 180 gram discs and they are not printing 100,000 at a time. This is more or less what these 4 disc vinyl reproductions cost, and the quality is quite high. I just looked at a bunch of vinyl albums on Amazon, trying to stay away from secondary sellers.. I am not finding a single 180 gram album for under $20. Seeing as this is a four disc album, and is available only on the secondary market.. I am surprised we are seeing them for under $80 ($20 a disc).

If you are going to bash shoddy quality, low-end manufacturing with defects (something I agree with you on), then it seems contrary that you also bash a clearly higher quality approach even if it costs a few dollars more. I have not heard a single complaint about skipping or quality of these vinyl re-issues.

I don't know.. this seems like much better value than dinner for two at Outback.

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I put this one on last night. Bertha has some static / distortion. I was listening on an mp3 rip of the tune, and my original CDs are stowed away. Just wondering if anyone else recalls an issue like this on the opener, Bertha?

Come on shipping notice, get here get here get here.

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That's a reasonable price for 180 gram vinyl, 4 discs. I didn't think to look on eBay because I assumed the prices would be so over-inflated that I wouldn't be interested. If they're going to be selling all 4, how can I not, right?

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well.. the complete recordings (4 shows 10 cds) is listed for $900 on eBay, used. I think I paid something like $100 in 2005 and the bonus disc came free.

https://www.ebay.com/i/333014665513?chn=ps

Not sure if they will get that much, but it adds some perspective. There is a listing for just the bonus disc for $450. I think I am going to start selling bridges.. wish me luck.

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The comments about ebay listing prices for FW 69 Complete Recordings got me curious, so I checked the sold listings and there is a huge variation. The lowest prices were $99.49 for a set rated "very good" and $100 for a set rated "like new". At the other end of the spectrum, there was a set rated "new (other)" sold for $850 and a few sets that sold for $699 each. There were a number of sets sold with intermediate values in the $400-600 range, give or take. Seems like they can reliably be had for a few hundred dollars, and occasionally someone gets lucky and pays close to the original cost of the set, kind of an argument for patience.

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I didn't even know how to see what items sold for.. didn't even know you could do that... so I did the same thing.

The $99 one sold in a little more than 8 minutes after being listed, and was a couple months ago. The rest seem to be in the mid-range. ..so patient but quick to pull the trigger if you want it under $400 to $500.

Interesting.. I am admittedly an eBay novice.

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the prices for individual shows y'all are citing...never.

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Delayed release this year? Every other year I’ve subscribed, a shipment notice is received on the 23rd or 24th of the month, like clockwork. This year... it’s the 28th and I’ve received no such notice. Hmmmm

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85 bucks is actually pretty cheap for for vinyl LPS, 180 gram vinyl. Every place I look for vinyl these days, it's either 25 or $30 for a single vinyl LP. 85 seems comparatively cheap.

There's a really solid Terrapin Station on Dick's Picks 29. Most of them from 77 or pretty solid. How many Terrapin fans out there. How many would put Terrapin Station in their top 10 desert island Grateful Dead songs? It would be borderline for me. Nah, as much as I like it I could come up with 10 others.

Dennis, thanks for the feedback on the Bertha from May 77. I may have to dig up my CD. What I am hearing is actual distorted guitar on Jerry side. The kind of distortion you get when you turn the recording level up to high. It's kind of fuzzy.

Edit - just listened again. The distortion is from 3:00 - 4:00 mainly on Keith's piano.

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