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For sure streaming is the future. Ironically, my 16 year old daughter the other day said she wanted a record player though, so go figure.

I do iTunes personally, meaning I purchase the albums I want digitally (maybe 2 or 3 a month) and download all my GD CDs using their version of lossless. Works GRATE, using a Bose wireless speaker I play what I want from the laptop and the speaker can follow me from room to room.

If I want something more mindless, I stream the two best public radio stations in the world, KEXP in Seattle and KXCI in Tucson using Alexa. Add to that daily NPR and about 5 podcasts I listen to every week and there is almost too much to listen to these days! It's a good time to be a deadhead.

Agree. For what it's worth. I think dreading provided some valuable insights, actually all the comments the last two days were quite good and had valid points.

Finished my work for the day, off for a little adventure, a mildly difficult one today, I have butterflies in my stomach just thinking about the first drop.. It's a bastard if you get it wrong. Picking some tunes.. and away I go.

Have a great day all.. Some 69 is probably in order, either for #51, #52 or a box. They have plenty from this year to chose from and the timing is right. Man.. it is a wonderful Spring day in the mountains East.. 68 degrees, a high of 72, beautiful clarity - I can see for miles and miles and sun. Time to put away the skis. :D

I like seeing the band at work.

When Long Strange Trip was announced as a streaming movie I posted on this site (the previous version with the non-white background) that I would watch the movie when it came out on Blu-ray. Well, my patience paid off because I bought the Blu-ray and got a bonus disc with video that wasn’t part of the original stream.
And I can watch the video as much as I want without paying any membership fees.

Keep in mind that a lot of the general population who think streaming music is great are also the people who can only listen to 3-minute songs with a catchy beat and lyrics. They would never listen to a live concert, and would run away screaming with their fingers in their ears when they got about 5 minutes into a 30-minute Dark Star.

I found it ironic after reading the comments yesterday and Sunday that Sirius would have that show on at noon yesterday. And with all the rain in CT yesterday 95 was a crawl so i got to listen to the whole show... I still get goose bumps when they break out We Bid You Goodnight.. Favorite run of shows that I saw... be good everyone bob t

MUATM is one way I can sit still and enjoy a show on video. No complaining from family.

re: Dave's Picks: subscribe subscribe subscribe. That's truly the only way to guarantee a copy of each. again, to paraphrase Jim Morrison: "a la carte is dead!"

aaaaaand, you don't have to stress, get to the site, order....

it's all done at one time in November/December, and you have the rest of the year to enjoy the GD (and whatever else you like.)

I have to say, this is one impassioned discussion - and I am not surprised. We are all of the sort who are a bit rabid about our music - this is a relatively rare attribute across humanity one might think, so in this regard it also makes us extra special.

I get all sides of the discussion going on here - from people who like to have hard copies that can't be destroyed by a solar flare, to people who want nothing at all other than a slick box playing the music they love with no strings attached. Then there is everyone in between, ranging from limited access to certain technologies that could take them over a hump to others who have every imaginable setup so they can like their cake in any format and eat it too.

In my opinion, all of it is reasonable and to each their own. Personally, I love the CDs and box sets for the "being able to hold and smell them" aspect. For a long time I was not truly understanding the draw toward streaming. But, a few Christmas's ago we were gifted a Sonos speaker, and now we have 5 of them throughout the house. And this system has grown on me TREMENDOUSLY.

Not only can you link Sirius to Sonos (which we've done - GD radio, 24/7 baby), there are also a bazillion other channels that I've found (Spotify anyone?) where you can literally find every officially released GD show save the Dave's Pick's (I'm talking ALL Dick's picks, all of E'72, the entire Road Trips series, etc.). Furthermore, and this is the real kicker, I can also access the relisten app from Sonos, which of course mirrors the complete archive.org GD show history. So in reality, simply with sonos, I can play any GD show throughout the house (and any format of show, but of course I gravitate toward the C. Millers and Betty's) - hell I could play 5 different GD shows on each speaker if I wanted to. But then of course I have the big boy stereo, which in fact I Have two such setups in two different rooms, so I can spin CDs pretty much anywhere too. And, lately, I've been doing a bit of dipping into You Tube for some GD shows - there is a lot of stuff out there and people have put in the time to match up video (albeit grainy, yes, but I more see it as a historical time capsule) with the best audio source so the end result if fairly satisfying. And to conekid's point, I don't feel I need to be staring at the TV 100% of the time, but if something cool is happening with a tune, you at least can get a visual to go along with it. And I watch You Tube via my XBOX, which is hooked up to my 80-inch TV and big boy stereo #2 so it's not like I'm watching via a laptop with $hitty speakers and 12 inch screen.

Regardless - the takeaway for me is that a Deadhead's listening preference is likely to be as variable as us Deadheads ourselves. And that's not a bad thing at all - if anything its a testament as to the steadfast dedication to LISTENING that will continue to exist and thus ensure this valve of awesomeness never shuts off.

Sixtus

Jim - yeah,,,, what is it with 10 per page? I usually check in the morning and today I had to back up 3 pages.

Video - never cared for it. I too can only handle a few songs. Hard to just sit on the couch.

8 Tracks,,,, never had one. Installed a shitload of them for people back in the early 70's when everyone wanted Led Zep 2 (in stereo) since most cars only had 6 watt mono am radios. I was the odd ball. I had a cassette recorder I got for Christmas one year, maybe I was 14. When I started driving and had my first car I routed a wire from my dash speaker to under the drivers seat. There it terminated in a 1/4" mini jack, I could plug this into my cassette recorder(mono recorder!!!!) and play tapes. This system also allowed me to turn on the radio and my wire would pump the sound to my mini jack, this I could jack into my cassette RECORDER jack are record songs off the radio. This was in 72 with my 66 Chrysler Newport!

I am also not in favor of this rent, no own world. You can't buy Word no more (right?), now you just rent it. Don't think you can buy any of the Microsoft software anymore, only rent.

On this streaming music front, no interest here. We seem to have every streaming service at work and someone always has some "station" on. They have a world of music available, but if you just let it play, it's the same shit everyday. The other problem (imo) with cloud storage/streaming models (plus the data cost of the downloading) is maybe today it's cheap, but a few years down the road it cost a fortune. Look at your cable bills, started off cheap-ish, now days my bill is 250 a month (cable, landline, internet) Whatever my physical media cost, I have the media. I have it backed up nine ways to Sunday (never understood that expression)

Also in the end, I just plain collect music. I have 16 banker boxes filled with cd's, all the big box sets (dead and others). Have about 15 feet of lp's (and have started buying more, even though I don't have a turntable setup,,,stupid huh?) Got about 400 45's and about 700 78's. It's a stupid trait I have,,,,, most don't understand.

oh yeah, on the streaming front, most of the kids I work with, don't have a tv, a stereo, internet connections, cable,,,etc. They have smart phones with unlimited data plans and use their phones for everything. How they can watch tv on those little screens is beyond me? A chunk use their game platform for internet access, for services like Netflix/hulu. Also most can spend a evening watching youtube stuff. There's a service that's gonna cost money down the road :-)

As I read these posts, I come to the conclusion that I am, in some ways, "that guy." I still love having the CD in my collection, the booklets that come with it, and the music laid out together as the artist intended. I don't see technically how CD's will become obsolete, nor will the sound become degraded over time. For those of us that still enjoy putting the media in, and digging it the way the artists intended, CD's are still cool. I also love all the concert DVD's you can get now, so you can watch and listen!
That said, I also have a large memory card in my phone, which currently has over 500 of these CD's ripped to it, so I can listen to songs, make playlists, pick and artist and shuffle, etc. Lots of ways to tunes via Blue Tooth.
Also, I have SiriusXM in my car, so when driving I can still see whats happening on the Grateful Dead channel and others.
In addition, I use Pandora for streaming. Here I have created my own channels so I can listen to everything from Zappa, to The Dead and other 60's stuff, to New Wave, so guitar virtuoso's. I have channels created for all of these.
So, I am "that guy" that still buys CD's, but I'm also "this guy" that streams, uses Bluetooth from my phone, and can go for Satellite radio as the mood moves me.
My point here, is diversify!!! There are many ways to listen to music, and I love music enough to use them all. Don't limit yourself, use the technology to expand your listening realm, but don't give up on buying CD's just because streaming is available. If you love CD's, as many of us still do, buy them, if you're streaming your way to your favorite tunes, go for it. The point is, you have many ways to access music, and if you love music, this is an awesome time to be alive! Live. Love. Laugh, Listen. Peace!!

Man, sounds like you live in a cool place!

All good points. There are still advantages to physical product - they'll linger a long time. My wife's folks still have a VCR player and a wall full of bulky movies. But from a commercial standpoint, DVD/BlueRay's is in a death-spiral.