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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • unkle sam
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    74 burn out?

    I don't think that's it, this show has been around for years, everyone has some kind of copy of this show, bootleg or archive release or downloaded from etree, or an old tape maybe, but most of us have a copy of this show. This could be the reason it's not sold out yet, with so many of us deadheads at home, this should have been sold out in hours, but it's not. I would love to see an 80's show for 35 (1980 is one of my favorite years). Or a fall 72 show, or a europe 81 show (Barcelona) or europe 90 show, or a killer 69 show. So many possibilities, so much to chose from, Dave has a difficult but glorious job.

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    Re. partial 'recycling'

    I, for one, would not at all mind a full show such as 6/18/74, of which I have the Road Trips excerpt edition, containing some 'recycling,' being released as a DaP or otherwise, as it would be a supreme official selection as a complete performance, and may benefit subtly (or more) from potential mastering advances since its release. Can't think of any other examples off the top of my mind right now, but a full epic show should NOT be held back as a release due to previous official excerpts. Well, actually one example- this Miami show!! I'm so glad that the fact that a bit of it got released on So Many Roads did not prevent its official release. For '74 in particular, I've been thrilled by nearly every release so far in this or the other series.

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    Thoughts on future releases...

    I see a couple themes to Dave L's madness in selecting releases, some he has stated, others I (think) I observe.

    Dave has said that the prevalence of a certain tape among collectors would not keep him from releasing a show for which he has a master in good shape. To wit: Red Rocks July '78, Cornell, '77, etc.

    When Dave sees a rarity roll in with returned tapes, he's sometimes quick to release it. When MG returned some tapes (I believe this was the stash), Dave "swiftly" (within a year or so?) released 4-18-70 of acoustic Dead with a solo Pigpen set. I'm trying to think of another example.... maybe if I remember correctly DaPs 6, 10, 19, and 30 (late '69, early '70) -- call that an example where returned tapes got released over a pretty long span of time. Not sure whether the Warfield acoustic sets released for RSD last year were always in the vault or were "returned tapes." I'd guess the former, as I think we heard they were the only complete acoustic shows still extant.

    Dave has several means of delivering small surprises: RSD, vinyl (damn I want that polished up Oct '68 tape going out with the "graphic novel"), and the 50th anniversary re-releases.

    On that last front, the tracks offered on the 1st LP (an entire '66 show), Anthem (a full set from Anthem's formative period) and Aoxomoxoa (various tracks across three nights). Also on the rerelease of WD and AB long ago, Dave released individual, related tracks from a much longer span of shows. Wondering what he'll do with 1970's scarcity of tapes regarding the upcoming re-re-release of WD and AB.

    DaP series offers an opportunity for relatively random picks, while the boxes have ranged from multi-year set at Giants Stadium to the PNW theme (another location-based selection) to the relatively recently returned June '76 shows. Another relevant element, to my mind: Dave is, however loosely, keeping an eye on long stretches in which no tapes have been released, so to fill in the historical record -- where possible, while ignoring mid-80s perhaps due to recording quality. Yet he also has to keep his powder dry by conserving a few '67, '68 and '70 tapes that he'll want to sprinkle over the years. He doesn't want to run out of a certain year, though he's obviously milked early '72 for all it's worth with the Academy compilations and the E72 box.

    So Dave likes to mix it up. And getting legal clearances may be a long-term project, ala 6-10-73.

    Plus, consider the wealth of material that Dave has at his fingertips. There are multiple written guides to the choice shows, he has a confidential circle that includes Blair Jackson, Nick Meriwether, David Gans, etc. for suggestions. And as Dave navigates the vault, he has to consider which shows might be held back for a box and which runs will be divvied up for individual DaPs.

    Sheet, he must be having fun. Throw in the video archives and Bolo's occasional teases. Bam, that makes our guesswork nigh impossible. We also don't know what's in the vault versus circulating tapes. But in some cases we do. There are some unplumbed depths in that vault. Two are early-mid April '71 and Sept-Oct 1972 (hint hint).

    Any thoughts, anyone?

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    Jai Alai & Earth Day

    Thanks Unkle Sam for the nice post on Earth Day and some background on the Jai Alai Fronton. Its been a beautiful spring our way and have been spending a lot of garden time these past few weeks in the isolation mode. Nearby plant nurseries closed, so no tree buying for now, but I do have 2 or 3 peach pits that I want to plant, and today would be a perfect day. They came from another volunteer peach, a tiny little tree. Last year it had a few peaches, and they were quite possibly the best I've ever eaten. The flesh was an incredible magenta color, like nothing I've seen before. We don't get peaches every year because of late frost, but fingers crossed. From the photos I've seen Jai Alai Fronton looks like an absolutely wild venue to have seen a show, especially a Wall of Sound Show. So far I haven't seen any photos of the WoS from these shows, maybe there's some with the release. '74 always high of my list, totally psyched. Now just need for Dave to set free the International Amphitheater show from July!

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    It was nice to hear Dave say there is still plenty of top notch stuff left in the vault....with no end in sight. Hopefully plenty that I’ve never laid ears on. I do hope we get 4/17/71 someday soon! Pigs best show in my opinion.

    Dave’s comment did get me thinking. At what point do you guys think we will start to see recycling of previously released material? By this I mean, the release of a full show that has already been partially released. Example would be a full show release of 6/18/74, any of 74 farewell shows, or 9/19 or 20/90. Yes the Dark Star > US Blues from this Show is on SMR, but only 19 minutes. So, I don’t think this one falls in to that category.

    Part of me would welcome it so I could have the full show. Another part of would feel somewhat taken advantage of.

    Thoughts?

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    To go along with what Billy posted... Spring 77 tour

    Started today in Philly 43 years ago!!!

  • billy the kid
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    This show would make a great release. It could be released at the same time as 2/17/79, another great show. Keith and Donna's last show, released with Brent's first show. Both of these shows are winners.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Wow, not sold out yet

    Did Rhino find the right number of copies, or is there 74 burn-out because of the PNW Box?

    Well, if that 80’s pick for DaP35 sells out right away we’ll know that it is 74 burn-out.

  • unkle sam
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    Earth day and Jai Alai

    First off, Happy Earth Day everyone, looks like the earth is getting a break this earth day, maybe the only good thing about the virus. Being a retired horticulturalist I have planted my share of trees and shrubs and flowers and this virus is not going to stop me from doing what I do every Earth Day, plant another tree. Lately I have been planting fruit trees, apples and cherry and peach, but in the past I have planted many a different kind of tree, from ornamental trees to flowering trees to oak trees, it's all good, they are the front line in keeping the atmosphere clean. I usually buy a tree from a nursery or garden center, but this year, I have started an apple tree from seed and it is now late enough in the year to take her outside and plant her with her other brothers and sisters that I have planted in the past. Yes, it's a little baby, but from this one seed, I will get a beautiful, flowering, fruit producing tree in about 7 years. Seems like a long time, but when I look back at the other trees I have planted, and enjoy the flowers and fruit from them, I know that eventually, this one will also produce flowers and fruit if not for me, for others to enjoy for years to come. It's easy to start a seed, just takes some patience to get it to the planting in the ground stage, but it is worth it when years down the road, you get to bite into that beautiful fruit.
    I have had a copy of this Miami show from 74 for years, having lived in Florida for over 38 years, I have seen some shows in a Jai Alai Fronton, just not this show. I caught Little Feat with Lowell in 78 at the Fronton in Orlando, caught U2 when they were unknowns at the same Fronton in 79. The Fronton in Miami is the largest one still operating and seats about 5100 people. What a great place to see a show and I can imagine this show was a real killer. The playing area is surrounded by 3 very tall walls and the audience looks on from the side with the front of the court being to the audiences right and the back of the court to their left. The three sides of the court are padded which makes for great sound acoustics. Back in the 70's I knew some guys in the service who bet on these players and they had a system. They would watch the players, they would give "tells" of who would win and in what order by bouncing the ball in sequences like 2 bounces, then hold, then 3 bounces, etc... They had spotters in the audience that would take these ques an run with them to the betting window and place their bets, winning some pretty good sums of money. If you knew these guys, you could get in on the fix, if not, it was all just luck to pick a winner and very seldom did a novice win. How my friends did it was they would watch the audience and the betting window, usually these spotters would come up and bet at the last possible minute and if you were behind them in line, you placed the same bet as they did. Worked for my friends more than 50% of the time. Of course, that was 40 some years ago and most of those old cheaters are long gone now. It was a very fast game and it could be over before you knew it, just that fast sometimes. That ball was very hard and if it hit you, you knew it, hence the Cesta was made out of wicker and had a padded glove on the inside to take the sting out of fielding that ball. Saw a few players get hit with the ball, you could tell it hurt, it would put those guys on the ground. After a while, the sport lost it's charm for me and I quit going, but it was fun for a while. I prefered concerts in those little arenas ever since. This is a killer show, and the bonus disc is the cherry on top, and that limited edition t shirt is very nice, love the back design. This shirt will sell out in no time, along with the remaining discs. I highly recommend this show and the shirt, get them while you can.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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You're taking about 6/6/95 not 6/5 am i correct?

ps. Mustin don't miss The Dean Dome from 3/24, 3/25.

3/24 day in Dead history has a ton of good shows, AM Dew 3/24/86 WOW!

3/17 and 3/18 Cap Center, I was at the 18th fun show sheriff's were peaking around the stacks on Phil's side I think they were running over time or something so they encored with I Fought The Law and the place went nuts.

Please excuse me I see now you mentioned The Dean Dome 3/25.

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No, I started with 6/5/93. I'll listen to 6/6 next, but I'm enjoying the heck out of this show. A few iffy moments in Fire on the Mountain but they're playing with passion. Sugaree was nice. TMNS>Easy Answers>TMNS was interesting. Easy Answers my be my least favorite Bobby song, but when they come back into TMNS, Jerry is on FIRE! Way To Go Home, Crazy Fingers, and Estimated were all pretty solid. Space is pretty wild too...and morphs pretty nicely into the Other One...So, if 6/6 is that much better, I guess I'm in for a real treat!

and speaking of 3/24 dates...3/24/90 is pretty damn good. Amazing 1st set, with my favorite version of Loser ever. And the whole 2nd set, well, you know how it goes.

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You must-in be kidding about Broken Arrow being a "bad Robbie Robertson song," no?! To me that is a bee-U-tiful song, and it's from one amazing album. :)

Annalee, I loved your offer, but I'll bet quite a few folks on here already have that disc, thus the low response rate . . .

I think part of the struggle of loving 1992-1995 is that some shows were chock-full of new tunes. I saw plenty of shows where they trotted out four of them, plus a Dylan tune, plus a Wang Dang/Walkin', plus a Beatles tune, and before you knew it, the show was over without one "classic" being played. Had they only played one new tune per night or per set, those tunes would probably have been accepted faster. I have learned to love the later shows, but prefer those that don't cram EVERY new tune into one show.

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Let me know when you hit play I'll listen with you. If it's okay?

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So, today its been...
6/23/93 - Deer Creek - I wasn't at this show, but I'm a little biased because I grew up about 20 minutes away. But that might be the greatest jam out of Terrapin ever. And the whole Drums>Space>Dark Star is pretty great.
6/5/93 - Giants Stadium - Maybe not as good as any of the Deer Creek shows but some fine moments throughout. Estimated Prophet ->Drums -> Space -> The Other One -> Stella Blue -> One More Saturday Night was a lot of fun.
6/6/93 - Giants Stadium - Minglewood set the place on fire! -very nice Let it Grow. Bobby's voice sounds a little hoarse, but they are all locked and jammin' nicely. --- Playing in the Band going way out there! With the theme still bubbling under the surface. Real nice drums. extra special with headphones. That's certianly a wild ride. Interesting hearing Corrina come out of Space after hearing it go into Drumz on 6/11, & 6/21. Attics of my Life! Very nice. This show just keeps getter better. Very solid Throwing Stones>NFA

VGUY: Great story about Jack Straw at Eugene! I'll have to check out those shows too

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"I'll have four fried chickens and a coke," "and an order of plain white toast."

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I'm gonna check out the Eugene 93 show, thanks for that.

Mustin; Playin' just ripped my skull. Thanks for listening!

Love the Talking Drum.

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Listened to the first two discs of DP 31 for the first time today, good stuff. Looking forward to the rest of it.

Watched my 15 year old daughter's favorite movie, the Perks of Being a Wallflower for the first time, pretty cool flick, kind of depressing, reminded me a little of Ordinary People. Now I have Bowie's Heroes stuck in my head.

Got some grapes today without really looking at the label - turns out they are Cotton Candy grapes, and as the name suggests they taste a lot like cotton candy. Pretty weird deal eating a handful of grapes and tasting a strong taste of cotton candy. Another first.

After taking several readings I'm surprised to find my mind's still fairly sound...right on Willie, not a first, but Willie never gets old.

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from Dick's 31 is nuts. Love it.
I hear '72 all over the place...in '74
8-5-74 Philly
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That China-Rider was in fact one of the things that jumped out at me during my first listen, kind of half distracted while listening and found myself thinking, well, that's pretty fucking hot, at some point in the transition from China to Rider. That Wharf Rat-US Blues hit the spot as well, that US Blues was just hot, had me flashing on the overalls dude from the Grateful Dead Movie jamming out to that tune on the movie.

Nice Blues Brothers references on here earlier. Funny, when I first saw that movie I was 14 and really did not grasp the number of blues and soul legends in that film, might be a good time to watch it again.

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Just seen the email:-)
In fact I’ve had 2 emails, one telling me #34 is on the way, the other saying that #33 has been sent. Let’s hope this is a glitch in the matrix.

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I also received 2 shipping notices, one for Dave's Picks Vol. 33 and one for Dave's Picks Vol. 34 and the Bonus disc. Both have identical tracking numbers which working yet. Curious to see how this will conclude. I suspect someone fucked up.

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Thanks for sneaking in that Jake Blues clip. Man I needed a good old fashioned heart felt laugh from the gut like that. As soon as I saw your reference to the bonus disc "competition", I knew something off the wall and funny was coming. Just from you post here, I guess you must be a riot to have over for company. Annalee, his performance must be worth another bonus disc ;-)

Shipping notice here. Best thing I did was subscribe.

We need a Dear Abby column for Dead Heads. Dear Dead Heads. I hate to admit it , and I know I sound like a blaphemer, but I get a little lost in most (not all) 1972 Europe Dark Stars. I feel like all of the weird noises that sometimes go on for 5 minutes or more leave me skipping forward a minute at a time, till something with a melody comes along. It's usually after the verse and before something like "feeling groovey" or something jazzy. Other times it'll be the last 5 minutes all together. Have I lost my Dead Head badge? Did I ever earn one? I have been buying up the Europe 72 Dark shows I don't have yet from Ebay for $99 each mostly (great prices). But they're not all 4/8 and 4/14. But I cherish the great Dark Star parts more than most of the concert. It is as if they would hace been better off without the "noize".

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Butch....as long as you enjoy something in the Dead's music, I am sure you are fully entitled to have a badge. Not often you read someone dissing Dark Star on here. Makes a nice change.

I have just checked, and I've got shipping notices for DaP 33 and 34 , too. Maybe we are having it(33) twice.

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Hey rockers!!!!

Rare day off, not enough sleep, up too early, too much coffee, here we go...……….

Since this year will see the anniversary re-issues of WD and AB, what would people like to see as the bonus live material?

Suggestions:
For WD: acoustic selections from the June FW run. Would be interesting. Maybe with some electric Pig thrown in? Or hold the electric for possible box set release?
For AB: FE 11/16/70. Slightly uneven, but has some great great moments (Hard To Handle [check Weir's super snazzy playing], Truckin'/Other One) but would require the guest artists to sign off on it. That may be a challenge...…..

Rock on rockers!!!!

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Butch, I'm having the exact opposite response to my first traipse through the E72 set. The Dark Stars are pulling me in so deeply that I'm having trouble appreciating the REST of the music. And I used to not be a Dark Star lover!

Speaking of blasphemy, I keep falling behind on shows because I'm just enjoying all this family time without running to kids' baseball, orchestra, music lessons, school events, etc. So more than once I've wondered about listening to JUST the deep stuff on the anniversary, rather than the entire show. I haven't done it yet (I've heard every note), but I've been tempted to just put on the Dark Star of the day in the evening of the anniversary, and NOT listen to the other songs until some later date when there's more time.

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I first heard the Help>Slip>Franklin's portion from the 8/22 Eugene show on the Grateful Dead hour in college and recorded it; then I recall finding a bootleg box of that same show, as well as the sister show. Both are excellent recordings and I still have them. The night with the aforementioned H>S>F was very good; I also recall a killer TMNS, a great Althea and of course that very angry Jack Straw as VGuy mentioned. I definitely recall David Gans saying how Bobby had "major guitar troubles", hence the extended Jerry jamming in there. Only later did I realize that major guitar troubles was possibly an understatement. You can very clearly hear Bobby come back in a few measures before he then jumps to the final vocals.

These are two super solid shows for later era Dead:

https://archive.org/details/gd93-08-21.sbd.nawrocki.15035.sbeok.shnf

https://archive.org/details/gd93-08-22.sbd.nawrocki.562.sbefail.shnf

Beer stock in fridgie is running low. Time to get more beer delivery today. These things matter!

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Does anyone else’s tracking say USPS waiting for package...? Looking forward to this one, fascinated by the effort and creativity that went into building and perfecting the wall of soooouuunnndddd. Have a great day Dead heads :)

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I just saw John Lennon in the audience of a Pink Floyd show. It's on the first dvd of the Video Anthology Harvested.

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Try pasting the tracking number into UPS tracking.

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No you are not a blasphemer. It's ok not to like every Dark Star ever done. Sometimes the songs that we hear are just really fucked up because of the brown acid we've ingested. There is no reason to hang your head in disgrace. I too was at a show once with a newbie, and would you believe halfway thru Drumz, he had to balls to ask, "are they going to play more songs?" I told him no and he left. Don't have to put up with that shit! I believe sometimes you'll find Viola Lee Blues can become the same beast. At least at the end of the feedback we find he has a friend out there. Shall we go indeed! Yeah, to the next fucking song. So don't let the maddening crowd influence your likes and dislikes, remember you are a child of the universe and have a right to be here.

Ann "the twirler" Landers

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Someone mentioned this combo from RT 2.3(?). Threw me for a loop. Dragged Eyes in winamp, then China. Listened to the 20 minute Eyes (very nice), but then the into for China was like a dead cut. After much data searching, finally figured out there were 2 Eyes on that one. I played the wrong one :-) Nice into on the right one! Sometimes we get shown the light and our eyes are closed.

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in not liking the cacophony. After all these years I still don’t really get into it. I used to FF as well. Now I grind through it or just go refill my drink.

Hell. I skip Casey Jones every time. Never got into that song.

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....three words. Bobby's. Slide. Work.

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you know what we do to blasphemers around here?

lock 'em in a room, tie 'em down, and play Wave to the Wind for 168 hours straight, at volume 11.

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Everything should make sense then.

Those parts of Dark Star, Other One, MLBJ (6-28-74), some Playing in the Bands, are similar to what was called ‘Feedback’ in the 60’s.

Generally, the crazier it gets the more I like it. Probably because as a teenager I listened excessively to early Pink Floyd and found that the longer and stranger a song was, the more I liked it. Then I went to my first GD show and Drums/Space along with long jams showed me that there was something better than Pink Floyd. I dove onto that bus and never looked back.

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@PKB, thanks! Now it shows everything. Hopefully coming Friday, just in time for the weekend.

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That's a great story, Loved it!

The crazier the better. Yes! haha

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Sorry if this is an old debate, but several of my friends and I recently listened to both of these shows and were trying to decide which night was better. Both are obvioulsy amazing shows. But i'll do this every few years, give or take, and I always go with 10/16/89. Two of my friends chose 10/9/89 and another said that 10/8/89 is better than both...Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own

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E’72 Dark Stars are fabulous.... got both the guts and the grace.

For the abstracted portions, I always keep in mind how those moments fit into the overall framework. Like before entry of the first verse when they are playing around with the basic chordal-rhythmic-melodic structure of the song without actually leaving it entirely behind. Or then afterward when they go freeform to search out new ground to stand upon. I actually find it helpful to have the time clocking on the TV so I can see where they are within the usual 30 minute structure. Keeps my listening focused. Otherwise it can be difficult to wrap my head around what went on between points A and B.

Personal favorite is first night in Denmark. Probably the most accessible too. First 15 minutes is a beautiful, slow build up to the 'dark star crashes' verse. Second 15 minutes revolves around the formation and deconstruction of a thrilling Feeling Groovy jam that slightly hints at TOO. Quite simple really when broken apart. Perfectly played and very, very alive. Sugar Magnolia appropriately follows.

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I've always loved this particular Dark Star from Europe 72. Very energetic and I love the dissonant chords Bobby adds near the end, which spins it off into Sugar Magnolia. Only the 2nd show of the tour, starting out strong.

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or anything else that will get you to that place :) Give me all the strangeness, weirdness, just out of this worldness that can transpire during a dark star or drums>space or Playin' in the Band, I love it all and in my opinion we need the weirdness that is the out of this world sounds coming out of these songs. This was and still is my favorite part of the shows, there is never a drums>space>Dark Star TOO that I don't like. I was at a show too with a newbie and she asked me what they were doing during space, I did not answer until after the show because I did not want to miss any part of it, later, I told her that what they were doing was the best part of the show. She did not understand to say the least. She later got "it" and is now a die hard space head.
Just my opinion on another topic, 10-8 or 10-16? try 10/26, awesome dark star and just a fine show from Miami.

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For me, the chaotic interludes in Dark Stars just serve to make the return of the melody that much sweeter a release after the tension of the chaos. Sort of like that transition from slipping around in your own skin peaking to that sweet feeling afterglow for the last few hours, when it feels like your skin fits again and you recognize that person in the mirror.

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In my journey through the entire E72 tour, that has been the one song that has moved up considerably on my "favorites" list. I somehow forgot how good it was. I've taken to listening again on the off nights.

One thing I find cool about this tour is the actual theaters in which the band played. I've spent a good deal of time this go-around reading more about the venues and looking at photos. Truly amazing places. That must have made the experience all the more special for those in attendance. They sure are nicer than the Rubber Bowl in Akron.

The other thing I find interesting is the location of the shows. Aside from Denmark and Munich, all the shows are heavily concentrated in the Northeast corner of Europe. It seems as though they could have spread out a bit more.
Hell, if you are going to play Munich and have five days off before your next show, you might as well play Salzburg.

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