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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • daverock
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    John Lennons comment...

    ..about the fact that there was nothing before Elvis was made from the perspective of a white middle class English teenager in the 1950s. As such, it is unlikely that he would have heard black rhythm and blues. When we are teenagers, we have little sense of the history of music, from whence it came. So I could say that before T.Rex there was nothing. Picture me at 14 in 1971 watching Top of the Pops on T.V.-and T.Rex coming on. I didn't know anything about where this came from-but for me it started there. They are a long way from my favourite band now-but back then..

    Going back to the historical perspective, I still haven't heard heard any records from 1954 or earlier that sound remotely like the ones Elvis cut that year. Their are elements of his sound in some Hank Williams records, maybe, and Carl Perkins claims to have welded country and blues before hearing Elvis-but on records that I have heard, music seemed to exist in specific genres-blues, country, gospel, folk whatever until Elvis lit the fuse.

    Its also been said that Chuck Berry did a similar thing to Elvis, mixing blues and country and coming up with rock n' roll, but that he came form a blues background. Very different, from say, Howlin' Wolf, who arguably rocked harder than either, but did so without assimilating cultures outside the blues.

    The Dead carried on this tradition of combining elements from different cultures-they didn't start it.

  • direwulf
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    Elvis?

    Elvis being given the credit for "beginning" rock n roll is the essence of white washing. He was so controversial because he brought black music to young white kids on national level. Making something popular with the white crowd does not make it a "beginning." Only a beginning for white culture, which often prominently claims their learning of something, even if it isn't "new" is the start of its greatness. Think the "New World" as your prime example...it wasn't "new" nor undiscovered, nor crappy before they arrived. :) Credit where credit is due. If Elvis didn't pick up on rock n roll it might not have found a white audience as easily or quickly but rock n roll would still exist without him.

    To me the Dead are the ultimate band because they fuse together both styles of Americana music, black heritage and white heritage to make something truly unique. Hell they even weave in a bunch of esoteric references to natives and other cultures. GD music is the melting pot of genuine American music and Elvis was a highly marketable knock off and appropriation of authentic culture. Fine I'll say it Elvis was NOT the "King." ;)

    Not to mention no ones really mentioned how big an influence jazz was on the early dead,s idea of improv, playing, and then eventually that wonderful 73 sound, not to mention their righteous appreciation for the musicians. I dont know who'd be on my Mt. Rushmore of Rock n roll. But the very idea that I'm building a monument on top of a sacred native mountain in the Black Hills of South Dakota for a bunch of white dudes some of whom were slave holders seems odd to say the least.

    If rock n roll is truly from the people and the music of outlaws, the monument to its beginnings is made of earth and wood hidden down some backwoods haunt sitting in the late full moonlight on a Summer's evening with a smell of smoke in the air and sounds of laughter.

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    Hey Jim / Mt Rushmore

    Hey Jim, I dig your post of Mt. Rushmore with Hendrix and Garcia, very cool! I heard Wavey Gravy doing an interview once, where he was talking about who would be on the Mt. Rushmore of freaks, and he said, Ken Kesey, Neal Cassidy, Allen Ginsberg, and Jerry Garcia, that's where I got the idea for the Rock & Roll Mt. Rushmore.

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    Highly Recommended - McNally

    On Highway 61: Music, Race and the Evolution of Cultural Freedom

    It's a hefty read, a great book that ties all the loose ends of this conversation together nicely.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    “The only thing older than music”

    “Is tuning up”
    Bob

  • Dennis
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    Origins of Pop

    Earlier please, Steven Foster, John Phillip Sousa, Al Jolson. ALL "Pop" music. Not sure what would have counted before that? Seems Foster needs to be the beginning, if you think of popular music as the "songs" that were on the peoples lips of the day. Whaling songs?

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    Son House & Mike Bloomfield discuss the blues

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HIrx3M5aLL0. Hey Dave Rock , check this out, I think you'll dig it.

  • Mr. Ones
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    Do some research & open your mind

    Anyone who believes rock and roll could have happened without black culture, black music, African rhythms and much, much more, simply hasn’t done enough digging. Music has been transforming and growing since the first note was played. Finding a singular voice is where the true innovators come in. We don’t need a Mt. Rushmore, or even a Hall Of Fame. We need textbooks, encyclopedias and libraries, to hold the incredible volume of written history that I feel so lucky to have read just a tiny sliver of.

    Music is the best!!

  • LedDed
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    Origins Of Popular Music, Vol. 1

    I'll go with

    Glenn Miller
    Frank Sinatra
    Elvis Presley
    The Beatles

    Last 5:

    UFO - The Salentino Cuts
    Al Di Meola - Across The Universe
    Grateful Dead - Dick's Vol. 24, 3/23/74 Cow Palace
    Grace Jones - 20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection
    The Gun Club - Lucky Jim

    \m/

  • Oroborous
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    But what about Spinal Tap?

    and hey, I may not remember where I was when the big E checked out, but I know where he was!....sorry, sometimes I just can’t help myself ; )

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Yes.. you are not losing your mind.. there must have been an error or mishap at some point in the supply chain and there apparently more than a few who have not received their DaP 36's yet. My guess is that they are having more made.

Send a PM to MaryE. That's probably your best advice. I bet they make you whole hopefully soon.

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I too have not received my DaP36. I had an address change, notified customer service a month+ ago that I hadn't received it. Still nothing. Any help appreciated (Marye?)

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Happy New Year everyone.

I once received the Treasure Trove of soundboards from one of the good guys here, and there was so much on it and I had so many commercial releases to still go through that it took me a long time to really get into them.

Then a couple of years ago, I don't know if you remember a guy on here known as wjonjd - he used to be a regular but I guess has moved on. Anyway, he once wrote the following to me about 12/31/72, which I just dug out of email archives by doing a search on the show date:

The Truckin'-Other One-Morning Dew sequence has to be one of the greatest jams of absolute all time. Simply fuckin' mind blowing. I remember turning on someone to the Dead in school, lending him that tape. A couple of days later he asked me, "Where does that come from? Where do you think the inspiration to keep creating like that comes from?"

So of course I immediately queued it up, and what I wouldn't do to have a Full Norman copy of the show. It's been my favorite New Year's Eve show ever since, with Cow Palace '76 coming in as a close second.

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Since DaP36 only tied the DP series, shouldn't DaP37 be celebrated as much as #36 since it's the tie-breaker?

What about a mirror image release?

DaP36 = 4 CDs / 2 shows / '87 = '78 \ 2 shows \ 4 CDs = DaP37...in the video for #37, Dave L. seemed to be unusually vague and a little giddy as far as the bonus material. It would be a great way to start the 10th year!

Or has this been announced already? If so sorry.

I hope all are well.

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Yes, KF.. Wonjonjd was last seen digging a tunnel 37 feet below the vault in a last ditch, vain attempt to free the master reels for 6/9&10/73 RFK. On the bright side, I hear ZuckFun has escaped and is laying low in an undisclosed location. Many thanks to whoever freed him.

Rumor has it wjon has been enslaved by Rhino and answers customer service calls 19 hours a day.

Sad. Someone needs to tell his wife and kids his hardship was not in vain.

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Surprise appearance of Tom Constanten as an interviewee in the documentary "Rebirth of the King" about Elvis Presley in Las Vegas. Again shown on Brit T.V. over Christmas.

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DaveStrange - The "mirror image" release for #37 won't happen, because the bonus disc is for the second release of the year, which will be #38 ( 9/8/73 Nassau Coliseum). The extra material is an hour + from the previous night, Sept. 9th. I listened to my audience recording of that show the day before they announced what #38 was going to contain, and it's a stellar show!

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I think it would be similar to last year: #s 33 & 35 were 3 disc releases, #34 had the bonus disc and #36 was 2 shows. This year could be #37 is 2 shows, #38 would have the bonus disc, and #s 39 & 40 would be 3 disc releases.

I realize this would only occur for milestone releases like #s 36 & 37, and in the future for DaP100 (!) if the series is still going. I know the odds for another 2 show release are mighty slim, but you can always hope, wish and dream right?

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With about 90 min from another show on this tour, likely to be announced in the video, which should come out around next Friday or thereabouts. Glad there's filler, been annoyed at 2 of the '78 DaPs having very short 2nd discs and no filler, with plenty of good material laying there for use. But filler is also very good because it sometimes produces some of the best material of a release. I just finished my first complete listen to DaP 35 and I'm very thankful for the filler from the night before. I found it to be the best part of the release, the Scarlet Fire was good, too, but the filler is pretty darn good. Being a beggar does prevent me from being a chooser as well as I'm hoping the filler on DaP 37 is not from 4/12/78, which was surely the best thing to ever happen in that pit of hell Cameron Indoor Stadium, and that that show is released in its entireity since I imagine it was part of the returned Bettys. That should be several years worth of DaPs down the road before hitting April '78 again, 3 is pretty high already and no Fall 1972 since DaP 11 and Hofheinz were released in 2014, but hope that Duke show can come out sometime, it is spectacular. Incredible energy, as evidenced in the video on the youtubes https://youtu.be/I_zD1_J5eYs Not every day you see Jerry doing Townshend-like windmills. Though if anybody else witnessed Jerry doing windmills at other shows, I'd love to hear about it.

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:'(

On Vol 35 they printed my address and phone number wrong... only got that one b/c I happened to run into the mailman wandering in the neighborhood looking for where to deliver it (I'm a westerner in China.. and he wandered up to me asking if I knew the person with the foreign name...). He said it was the third time they sent him out to deliver it...

I know it's old hat to complain about their shipping services.. but come on guys...

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Does anyone know why I have received another copy of Dave's 36? It arrived in the mail yesterday with no shipping notification. On the back of it, where the edition numbers are usually listed, it says "Hindsight is 2020 limited edition: 92/300". I haven't actually listened to it yet but it looks exactly the same as the first one I got.

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I’m running out of patience after emailing four or five different email addresses (Dr. Rhino, wig, etc.) for the past five months now about a missing Dave’s 36. I have yet to even receive a “we received your email.” But yet they are allowed to continue selling product? Any ideas on how I can rectify this?

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I received mine Friday from the 300 run. I am really enjoying this right now, as times have been tough, and the matrix sound I like. The mix has brought my spirit up, so I won't dwell on the service. Billfgrady it was sent without notice, so you should be getting yours any day.

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I finally got to listen to the first show (yeah, I'm way late, I know). I was floored! Once you get past the obligatory 80's fodder like "Push Comes To Shove" and "My Brother Esau", it is SOLID throughout. Even Looks Like Rain is tolerable. Gee, who knew? As always, go Brent!

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