Dave's Picks Volume 36: Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87)

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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December 5, 2020 - 10:25am

#191

JimInMD

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Mt. Rushmore

Mount Rushmore has a secret room that no one can enter. Located behind the facade of Abraham Lincoln, sculptor Gutzon Borglum designed the chamber to hold....

Free concerts perhaps?

I'd like to think of the Dead as the band that played in the secret room inside the mountain away from the park police, crowds and tourists.

Just adding a little flavor to the conversation. It does have a secret room, this part is true.

Edit: Then.... there's this. Hard to argue, it is written in stone.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/123075002293278936/
December 5, 2020 - 9:59am

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Deadheadbrewer

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Let me rephrase, if I may . . .

I certainly did not mean that before Dylan there was nothing happening in rock and roll. But to me, each of the important influences on what we would come to call "rock" music were limited and somewhat self-repeating streams. The great blues artists certainly did some great blues; the seminal folk/country/R&B/etc. artists did amazing things within their own genres. Elvis absolutely blew the door open for Little Richard, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee, Chuck Berry . . .

But by the mid-Sixties, each artist was still somewhat re-writing what he/she had already written; musically and lyrically pop music had stagnated. The Beatles and Stones were poking at some cracks between genres, but then Dylan came and wiped out everything with the opening chord of "Like a Rolling Stone." After that, folkies could rock, blues musicians could rock, soul artists could rock, and rockers could do whatever they wanted. Now the Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Who, and the good ol' Grateful Dead could make rock music about anything, and could draw upon whatever influence tickled their fancy. And after Dylan, the sky was the limit, lyrically. The bands most of us repeatedly listen to were made possible by Robert Zimmerman. Would we still all listen to our Elvis, Muddy Waters, Sarah Vaughan, and Chuck Berry records had Dylan never existed? Undoubtedly. But not like we LISTEN to the Beatles, Stones, GD, Hendrix, Joni . . .

And of course, I am open to the idea that I could be totally wrong about all this. :)
December 5, 2020 - 9:15am

#193

Oroborous

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Origins

I still say Chuck was the real innovator in the chicken or egg argument, but I’m not going down that rabbit hole again.
I got into like a four day tennis match last time lol
December 5, 2020 - 9:14am

#194

Colin Gould

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Mt Rushmore

If you really mean rock and roll then I think the four heads should be Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard.
For myself choosing innovators I’d pick Robert Johnson, Mother Maybelle Carter, Jimmy Rodgers and Woody Guthrie.
December 5, 2020 - 8:14am

#195

billy the kid

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Elvis / Love Me

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTMm4NEQc1Q. I still remember where I was the day he died.
December 5, 2020 - 7:59am

#196

unkle sam

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got to agree with Daverock

before Elvis there was nothing but the blues, then came Elvis and the cat was out of the bag. He was the one and only and totally brought rock to the masses. He did it with class and smarts, using his gospel roots to snare all the doubters and win over all the old folks who thought rock and roll was the devil in disguise. He had such class and could deliver a song like no other before him. He isn't called the King for nothing ya know.
Funny how the conversation has veered to after the Dead bands. I saw them all, when Jer passed, I was left without a compass, he was my guiding light, my go to for all things psychedelic and the one and only. I did not want it to end and went to the first Furthur festival in 96 with Ratdog and loved it, it wasn't over and I had to have more. Then to the Furthur fest in 97 and 98 with the return of Phil to the line up, that one was special and then onward to 2000 with the return of Bruce and Billy, all were special in their own way but that 2000 line up was awesome with Mark K. and Steve K. duel leads was the sh%t. They got it down on that tour and one of my favorites of the post Jerry bands. Saw Ratdog many times back then also, loved every one of those shows as Bobby still had it and was not going to stop the bus. Saw Phil and friends with Warren back in 2001 also, right after his operation and they were good too, not furthurfest good, not ratdog good, but still good and loved the old tunes they brought back. Caught Furthur in 2010 at a 3000 seat auditorium, they were good, real good and John K was the best Jerry to date. Loved his take on Stella Blue, he nailed it. Honorable mention goes to Mickey's band, they were great and I was fortunate to catch them twice and both times they never lost site of what the Dead were all about, improv and great tunes. Love you Mickey.
Sorry Billy but you were wrong and Trey was not the guy for FTW, he did not have what it took to fill the big guys shoes, IMHO. JK had been playing Jerry for years with DSO and he had the chops and knew the material by heart.
Honorable mention again to DSO, best cover band yet.
Yes, it should have been called Fare the Well Phil, but it was a money grab and that's the way it was to be. As I look back on these 25 years after Jerry has left us, I see the bus, with many different colours, still rolling down the road and will until they all leave us. Long live the Grateful Dead
December 5, 2020 - 4:01am

#197

daverock

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Before Elvis there was nothing

Thus sprake John Lennon. A bit overstated, perhaps, but the way Elvis welded blues, country, gospel, pop...whatever was to hand... was visionary. The recordings made for Sun still sound immaculate, and there is a great dvd called "Elvis in 1956" which shows him gravitate from cult to world wide fame in 12 easy months. Brilliant T.V. performances.
In the notes for the 5 disc set "Complete 50's Master's", Scotty Moore describes his guitar work as "ancient psychedelia".
Truly out of this world.
December 5, 2020 - 3:37am

#198

direwulf

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?

I think even Dylan would agree that rock n roll did not begin with a white guy! :) It was much deeper than that, thats partially why it was so controversial in society at the start.
December 4, 2020 - 3:56pm

#199

billy the kid

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Bob Dylan 1965. / Deadheadbrewer

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Kv0vF41Bc. Deadheadbrewer, you make an excellent point. Here's where it all began, Dylan backed by members of the Paul Buttetfield blues band. So who's on your Mt . Rushmore of Rock & Roll.
December 4, 2020 - 3:03pm

#200

Deadheadbrewer

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But, Billy . . .

Rock and roll BEGINS with Bob Dylan, no? :) (I humbly submit that it does . . . ) After Dylan rocked out, the Beatles and Stones were freed from being excellent Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry imitators respectively, and could then become the twin towers of soul-searing rock and roll. No?

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

KAHALADUDE

Yes.. you are not losing your mind.. there must have been an error or mishap at some point in the supply chain and there apparently more than a few who have not received their DaP 36's yet. My guess is that they are having more made.

Send a PM to MaryE. That's probably your best advice. I bet they make you whole hopefully soon.

Finally got my Dave's Picks 36 yesterday

Arrived yesterday. Hang tight you should get yours any day.

No DP 36 yet

I too have not received my DaP36. I had an address change, notified customer service a month+ ago that I hadn't received it. Still nothing. Any help appreciated (Marye?)

Re: Sixtus NYE shows

Happy New Year everyone.

I once received the Treasure Trove of soundboards from one of the good guys here, and there was so much on it and I had so many commercial releases to still go through that it took me a long time to really get into them.

Then a couple of years ago, I don't know if you remember a guy on here known as wjonjd - he used to be a regular but I guess has moved on. Anyway, he once wrote the following to me about 12/31/72, which I just dug out of email archives by doing a search on the show date:

The Truckin'-Other One-Morning Dew sequence has to be one of the greatest jams of absolute all time. Simply fuckin' mind blowing. I remember turning on someone to the Dead in school, lending him that tape. A couple of days later he asked me, "Where does that come from? Where do you think the inspiration to keep creating like that comes from?"

So of course I immediately queued it up, and what I wouldn't do to have a Full Norman copy of the show. It's been my favorite New Year's Eve show ever since, with Cow Palace '76 coming in as a close second.

DaP37 Possibility?

Since DaP36 only tied the DP series, shouldn't DaP37 be celebrated as much as #36 since it's the tie-breaker?

What about a mirror image release?

DaP36 = 4 CDs / 2 shows / '87 = '78 \ 2 shows \ 4 CDs = DaP37...in the video for #37, Dave L. seemed to be unusually vague and a little giddy as far as the bonus material. It would be a great way to start the 10th year!

Or has this been announced already? If so sorry.

I hope all are well.

Re: Keithfan/wjon

Yes, KF.. Wonjonjd was last seen digging a tunnel 37 feet below the vault in a last ditch, vain attempt to free the master reels for 6/9&10/73 RFK. On the bright side, I hear ZuckFun has escaped and is laying low in an undisclosed location. Many thanks to whoever freed him.

Rumor has it wjon has been enslaved by Rhino and answers customer service calls 19 hours a day.

Sad. Someone needs to tell his wife and kids his hardship was not in vain.

T.C. on T.V.

Surprise appearance of Tom Constanten as an interviewee in the documentary "Rebirth of the King" about Elvis Presley in Las Vegas. Again shown on Brit T.V. over Christmas.

DP 37 / 38

DaveStrange - The "mirror image" release for #37 won't happen, because the bonus disc is for the second release of the year, which will be #38 ( 9/8/73 Nassau Coliseum). The extra material is an hour + from the previous night, Sept. 9th. I listened to my audience recording of that show the day before they announced what #38 was going to contain, and it's a stellar show!

GUSMOZART / 37 & 38

I think it would be similar to last year: #s 33 & 35 were 3 disc releases, #34 had the bonus disc and #36 was 2 shows. This year could be #37 is 2 shows, #38 would have the bonus disc, and #s 39 & 40 would be 3 disc releases.

I realize this would only occur for milestone releases like #s 36 & 37, and in the future for DaP100 (!) if the series is still going. I know the odds for another 2 show release are mighty slim, but you can always hope, wish and dream right?

DaP 37 is 4/15/78

With about 90 min from another show on this tour, likely to be announced in the video, which should come out around next Friday or thereabouts. Glad there's filler, been annoyed at 2 of the '78 DaPs having very short 2nd discs and no filler, with plenty of good material laying there for use. But filler is also very good because it sometimes produces some of the best material of a release. I just finished my first complete listen to DaP 35 and I'm very thankful for the filler from the night before. I found it to be the best part of the release, the Scarlet Fire was good, too, but the filler is pretty darn good. Being a beggar does prevent me from being a chooser as well as I'm hoping the filler on DaP 37 is not from 4/12/78, which was surely the best thing to ever happen in that pit of hell Cameron Indoor Stadium, and that that show is released in its entireity since I imagine it was part of the returned Bettys. That should be several years worth of DaPs down the road before hitting April '78 again, 3 is pretty high already and no Fall 1972 since DaP 11 and Hofheinz were released in 2014, but hope that Duke show can come out sometime, it is spectacular. Incredible energy, as evidenced in the video on the youtubes https://youtu.be/I_zD1_J5eYs Not every day you see Jerry doing Townshend-like windmills. Though if anybody else witnessed Jerry doing windmills at other shows, I'd love to hear about it.

Still haven't received my copy..

:'(

On Vol 35 they printed my address and phone number wrong... only got that one b/c I happened to run into the mailman wandering in the neighborhood looking for where to deliver it （I'm a westerner in China.. and he wandered up to me asking if I knew the person with the foreign name...). He said it was the third time they sent him out to deliver it...

I know it's old hat to complain about their shipping services.. but come on guys...

ChinaMatt

Check your PM

No 36 here yet either

I've emailed several times and only received one response which was to verify my mailing address. I did. That was a month ago. Crickets ever since!

Thanks, Jim - have replied.

dug this out yesterday after two listens to #37

good fun, solid shows.

I dug it out too....

....and dug it.

glad you dug it Vguy

you are referring to Daves 36, right?

Maybe?...

....I dig it.

Jerry Garcia. Going, Going, Gone

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=njtM09ki5nY

Hindsight is 2020 Limited Edition

Does anyone know why I have received another copy of Dave's 36? It arrived in the mail yesterday with no shipping notification. On the back of it, where the edition numbers are usually listed, it says "Hindsight is 2020 limited edition: 92/300". I haven't actually listened to it yet but it looks exactly the same as the first one I got.

Z

Those are the replacements for the people who didn’t get their’s the first time.

Help

I’m running out of patience after emailing four or five different email addresses (Dr. Rhino, wig, etc.) for the past five months now about a missing Dave’s 36. I have yet to even receive a “we received your email.” But yet they are allowed to continue selling product? Any ideas on how I can rectify this?

Missing Dave's Picks 36

I received mine Friday from the 300 run. I am really enjoying this right now, as times have been tough, and the matrix sound I like. The mix has brought my spirit up, so I won't dwell on the service. Billfgrady it was sent without notice, so you should be getting yours any day.

I'm a believer!

I finally got to listen to the first show (yeah, I'm way late, I know). I was floored! Once you get past the obligatory 80's fodder like "Push Comes To Shove" and "My Brother Esau", it is SOLID throughout. Even Looks Like Rain is tolerable. Gee, who knew? As always, go Brent!

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