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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #191
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    Mount Rushmore has a secret room that no one can enter. Located behind the facade of Abraham Lincoln, sculptor Gutzon Borglum designed the chamber to hold....

    Free concerts perhaps?

    I'd like to think of the Dead as the band that played in the secret room inside the mountain away from the park police, crowds and tourists.

    Just adding a little flavor to the conversation. It does have a secret room, this part is true.

    Edit: Then.... there's this. Hard to argue, it is written in stone.
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/123075002293278936/

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    Let me rephrase, if I may . . .

    I certainly did not mean that before Dylan there was nothing happening in rock and roll. But to me, each of the important influences on what we would come to call "rock" music were limited and somewhat self-repeating streams. The great blues artists certainly did some great blues; the seminal folk/country/R&B/etc. artists did amazing things within their own genres. Elvis absolutely blew the door open for Little Richard, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee, Chuck Berry . . .

    But by the mid-Sixties, each artist was still somewhat re-writing what he/she had already written; musically and lyrically pop music had stagnated. The Beatles and Stones were poking at some cracks between genres, but then Dylan came and wiped out everything with the opening chord of "Like a Rolling Stone." After that, folkies could rock, blues musicians could rock, soul artists could rock, and rockers could do whatever they wanted. Now the Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Who, and the good ol' Grateful Dead could make rock music about anything, and could draw upon whatever influence tickled their fancy. And after Dylan, the sky was the limit, lyrically. The bands most of us repeatedly listen to were made possible by Robert Zimmerman. Would we still all listen to our Elvis, Muddy Waters, Sarah Vaughan, and Chuck Berry records had Dylan never existed? Undoubtedly. But not like we LISTEN to the Beatles, Stones, GD, Hendrix, Joni . . .

    And of course, I am open to the idea that I could be totally wrong about all this. :)

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    I still say Chuck was the real innovator in the chicken or egg argument, but I’m not going down that rabbit hole again.
    I got into like a four day tennis match last time lol

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    If you really mean rock and roll then I think the four heads should be Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard.
    For myself choosing innovators I’d pick Robert Johnson, Mother Maybelle Carter, Jimmy Rodgers and Woody Guthrie.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTMm4NEQc1Q. I still remember where I was the day he died.

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    got to agree with Daverock

    before Elvis there was nothing but the blues, then came Elvis and the cat was out of the bag. He was the one and only and totally brought rock to the masses. He did it with class and smarts, using his gospel roots to snare all the doubters and win over all the old folks who thought rock and roll was the devil in disguise. He had such class and could deliver a song like no other before him. He isn't called the King for nothing ya know.
    Funny how the conversation has veered to after the Dead bands. I saw them all, when Jer passed, I was left without a compass, he was my guiding light, my go to for all things psychedelic and the one and only. I did not want it to end and went to the first Furthur festival in 96 with Ratdog and loved it, it wasn't over and I had to have more. Then to the Furthur fest in 97 and 98 with the return of Phil to the line up, that one was special and then onward to 2000 with the return of Bruce and Billy, all were special in their own way but that 2000 line up was awesome with Mark K. and Steve K. duel leads was the sh%t. They got it down on that tour and one of my favorites of the post Jerry bands. Saw Ratdog many times back then also, loved every one of those shows as Bobby still had it and was not going to stop the bus. Saw Phil and friends with Warren back in 2001 also, right after his operation and they were good too, not furthurfest good, not ratdog good, but still good and loved the old tunes they brought back. Caught Furthur in 2010 at a 3000 seat auditorium, they were good, real good and John K was the best Jerry to date. Loved his take on Stella Blue, he nailed it. Honorable mention goes to Mickey's band, they were great and I was fortunate to catch them twice and both times they never lost site of what the Dead were all about, improv and great tunes. Love you Mickey.
    Sorry Billy but you were wrong and Trey was not the guy for FTW, he did not have what it took to fill the big guys shoes, IMHO. JK had been playing Jerry for years with DSO and he had the chops and knew the material by heart.
    Honorable mention again to DSO, best cover band yet.
    Yes, it should have been called Fare the Well Phil, but it was a money grab and that's the way it was to be. As I look back on these 25 years after Jerry has left us, I see the bus, with many different colours, still rolling down the road and will until they all leave us. Long live the Grateful Dead

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    Before Elvis there was nothing

    Thus sprake John Lennon. A bit overstated, perhaps, but the way Elvis welded blues, country, gospel, pop...whatever was to hand... was visionary. The recordings made for Sun still sound immaculate, and there is a great dvd called "Elvis in 1956" which shows him gravitate from cult to world wide fame in 12 easy months. Brilliant T.V. performances.
    In the notes for the 5 disc set "Complete 50's Master's", Scotty Moore describes his guitar work as "ancient psychedelia".
    Truly out of this world.

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    I think even Dylan would agree that rock n roll did not begin with a white guy! :) It was much deeper than that, thats partially why it was so controversial in society at the start.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Kv0vF41Bc. Deadheadbrewer, you make an excellent point. Here's where it all began, Dylan backed by members of the Paul Buttetfield blues band. So who's on your Mt . Rushmore of Rock & Roll.

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    But, Billy . . .

    Rock and roll BEGINS with Bob Dylan, no? :) (I humbly submit that it does . . . ) After Dylan rocked out, the Beatles and Stones were freed from being excellent Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry imitators respectively, and could then become the twin towers of soul-searing rock and roll. No?

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 22:28

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It was fun when I typed it. Looking back....
Still.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 10/23/2020 - 10:33

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Looks like the Feb pick for 2021 will be 4-15-78 - William and Mary

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Submitted by cheyler196 on Fri, 10/23/2020 - 12:12

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This is the reason I had to stop subscribing, I got a '76 show and an '83 show in the same subscription. Then a 14-disc '76 box-set and an '84 DaP and now this '87 DaP is just too much. You can't POSSIBLY be out of great gigs from '68 or '69 or '70 or '71 or '72 or '73 or '74 or '77 or '78 or '79 or '80 or '82 or '85 or '90, can you? That 08-21-68 / 08-22-68 would have been pretty good...

I love shows from this time period - since we're talking fun facts, one thing i wanted to mention was the Dave's Picks from 4/22/78 (DaP 15 i think) is one of my favorite releases of all time and i play it several times a year. Looking forward to a great 2021 (god knows we need it).

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Submitted by gratefulgerd on Fri, 10/23/2020 - 13:25

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got the 2021 DAP announcement from dead net about 20 min. ago and I did it again.
Now I'm looking forward to a better next year (I'm sure music will be great, but that damn covid19 got to get away).
I'm happy the DAP series continues
Stay safe you all
G.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 04:16

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One of the best blues/soul singers to come out of England. Recent clip of him on television - from Ready Steady Go! 1966 - sharing a stage with no less than Otis Redding, doing "Shake", is worth a look too.

In fact I have just watched it again on you tube. Hard to believe that popular music used to be THAT good.

I do hope that the correct 1/4th purchase price that I paid for my Daves Picks 2020 subscription will be displayed for customs purposes on my posted Dave's Picks 36, and not the inflated version that has been posted on this site.
I will be none too happy to have to 'fork out' for taxes that I am not liable for.

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 09:51

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Naturally there are two prices for each Dave's Picks: 1/4 of the subscription price (less international shipping) and the a la carte price. I have never paid much attention to the stated value on the customs declaration as here, in the Netherlands, I don't get robbed by the customs as the price threshold for duty/tax is high enough that Dave's Picks get through without a problem. I am pretty sure that the shipping system isn't smart enough to know whether you are a subscriber or not. I have a suspicion that the a la carte price is what will be used but I am not certain. If that is the case then it may be an expensive pick for you and maybe for me too, for the first time.

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 09:58

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He made some great albums in the early 70's.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 11:51

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My copy is apparently on the way! Can’t wait to follow the long strange trip it will take.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 18:31

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It is hard to believe that music by burden and the animals were and are still that great. I was playing see-see while walking sarge last night and could not help but yell out "See, see see rider"along with burden. I just dont understand why it's not played on the radio at all. Shipping notice received.

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Submitted by JackstrawJay on Sun, 10/25/2020 - 05:58

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Garcia Saunders Volume 15, May 21, 1971. To be released December 2020....finally something with heart and (true) electrical intentions. The vibrations and echoing magic of Garcia, with Crosby and Fierro, resonates through the river of blood that makes us human. And in that river we dance with our soul. Into the LIGHT.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 10/25/2020 - 08:34

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You go Jay!

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 10/25/2020 - 12:26

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Eric Burdon actually name checked the Dead in one of his songs-"Monterey" -"The Grateful Dead, Blew everybody's mind."

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 09:06

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Received. Tracking says here by Wednesday!

Just noticed that a cool limited Dave's Picks print with all the artwork was available. 100 pieces only. Wish I'd known about that.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 09:34

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Spacebrother

My tracking says

“UPS could not locate the shipment details for this tracking number. Details are only available for shipments made within the last 120 days. Please verify your information.”

I’m sure it will appear one day.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 12:20

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Wow. What a nice surprise. I always seem to get mine around a week late, so this is fantastic.

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Submitted by mcgrupp216 on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 15:56

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9498. Yes, pleasantly surprised. Hah, was expecting some time before New Years!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 16:11

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....but I have faith. I've gotten shipping notices for dead.net stuff after I've already received the product. For all I know, it might be in my mailbox when i get home tonight.

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Submitted by Blind-man on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 16:43

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I'm super bummed I couldn't get a hold of the poster celebrating Volume 36...Help(on the way) I need a miracle!!!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 17:09

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No way! Good for you. I haven't even received a shipping notification yet.

Let us know your thoughts?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 17:19

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That was fast Slow Dog.

Mine says this weekend.
Which is good since last time I checked UPS didn’t have possession of the package.

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Submitted by mcgrupp216 on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 17:19

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What a wonderful essay... haven't listened yet but what a sweet reminiscence from Dave's first show. As for 38, apparently it's "a nod to a show that Dick was particularly high on." For whatever that's worth.

...except that Dick was particularly high on almost every show, Dave too come to think of it.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Speaking of high (or hot).. I am trying my hand at fermenting my first hot sauce. Hoping for something similar too Sriracha. I plucked about four bushes of ripe and red serrano's, a healthy amount of cayenne and some Hungarian hot for good measure.. chopped em all up and started the fermentation process. I never wear gloves when I cut up peppers, but I think I overdid it this time. My hands are on fire. I have a gallon of finely chopped pepper puree. My hands are pinkish and just a tad swollen.

A half hour later after washing my hands with soap and water a few times..., if I simply touch my face or arms it immediately burns. Too funny.

There's a dragon with matches that's loose on the town.

Tried my hand at fermenting apples this year too.. I have three gallons that should be ready to drink in about a week. So far so good.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 06:39

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Be careful and use gloves when you pee!!! Yeow!
Best of luck – sounds like great autumn fun! Bon appetit! Just curious: What show pairs nicely with a fresh batch of Nuclear Rooster Sauce? Onward.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 08:53

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It would be sweet to have the OU show in its entirety, but 5/17 of the show already got jigsawed into Road Trips 1.2. And while you're at it Dave, why not go all out and do a 7 show Box from 10/7 - 10/16/77 🤪

BobT steered me towards the '74 Cow Palace Show. The most I listen to it the more I like it. I had forgotten just how hot the China Rider was for example.. well, China Rider on. Like 10/11/77.. I wish it was released as a full show. Glad they grew out of that phase.

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Submitted by Jmich on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 11:24

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#9974 landed just now. Very excited to rip into this - packaging is extra fat for the double show! Nice work Dave and Co. and looking forward to DaP 2021.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 12:53

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With the new address, so hopefully no worries with this one, which would be ironic given the multitude of issues on the last six orders, I think. Also looking forward to American Beauty's arrival from Mr Bezos. Had 12+ hours of driving over the weekend, and after a failed experiment in listening to a bunch of Jack Straws from the Dave's Picks series and went 15 4/22/78, 26 11/17/71, 11 11/17/72, 9 5/14/74, 25 11/6/77, and started 21 4/2/73 when exhaustion set in. No fault of the Dead's, had been up til at least 1 every night for almost a month packing some stuff after work, and had gone the previous night until 4, then up at 7:45 to get the rest loaded with some good friends from church and my brother. Finished about 1, ate, showered, hit the road and a bad time for an Evolution of Jack Straw Seminar. My wife encouraged me to listen to something lively, so I blasted some Fall 1969 Who SBDs, first Ottawa, then Fillmore East, then Hull, the night after Leeds. That got me through to Delaware, where we bedded down for the night. The next morning we began our journey to the Boston area hoping to arrive no later than 1. All sorts of fun, but innocuous and interesting things happened with separations and the joys and terrors of a caravan with a 26' UHaul driven by your half-crazy brother in the middle. And for that leg of the journey I chose the Allman Brothers Band Fillmore West 1/29-31/71, Fillmore East 3/13/71, then 8/17/71 Boston Commons. We were way late, and stressed, but Duane and Dickey and Berry kept me fairly grounded.

I look forward to this Hartford release (went through there and New Haven along the way, and even fortuitously stumbled upon a sign for Dillon Stadium at the exit I chose for its Wendy's), but the best thing about it to me is the standard it sets that a release can be a four disc show, so 5/26/73 and 6/10/73 could get the treatment. Though, that also means no Plangentizing of those. But I do look forward to a different sound than I usually listen to, but I still haven't finished DaP 35. I didn't find what I did listen to that compelling. DaP 31 I listened to that one time, and listened to Jack a Roe and the Franklin's and Jam a couple other times, but that's about it. DaP 32 didn't move me brightly either. So, it's not just Brent era complaining. This year I loved Jai Alai, but have loved that show for years, and found this to be a huge sonic upgrade, and probably the best sounding Wall of Sound release that is a 2 track source. DaP 33 I loved the Might As Well, Jack Straw, Dire Wolf opening, the Let It Grow was great, but I don't find that on repeat much either. DaP 37 Spring '78 leaves me a bit nonplussed, too. Hoping the announcement for 38 is of a big one. I've already bought the subscription, but I'm hoping for a little more bang for those bucks next year. And if it's a 1972 box, they can take that money quite willingly.

But one thing that is setup is the stereo, so when American Beauty and that wonderful Port Chester Dark Star> Beautiful Jam> Wharf Rat> Dark Star arrive, I shall play it and hopefully enjoy what is forecast to be our first snow up here. And I will give Hartford a listen if it arrives as scheduled, hoping for some Dead rejuvenation in my spirit!

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 12:59

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I once was making extremely spicy tacos and cut up jalapenos and habaneros without gloves. I washed my hands 23 times, took a shower, and went to take my contacts out and immediately felt burning on my eye and just slept with them in that night. I later bought a jar of habanero ground up seasoning that required no touching.

But I have never heard of swollen hands like that, yikes! That may be an allergic reaction more than just a spice thing. I'm not sure you want to eat something that did that to the outside of your body,

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 14:47

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Mine was slated to arrive today, but has been delayed due to the all too well publicized USPS delivery woes. Man, are we hitting the fan?

No worries! We'll just see what other adventures are around the corner. Stay Grateful and have a Grateful Day all! :-)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 15:32

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The slight swelling and redness is gone. It can't be allergic reaction, or I would be dead by now. It was simply chopping copious amounts of really hot peppers. I mean a lot.

All is good.. I think it's sort of funny. ..like serves me right.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 15:32

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An unintended side effect is extreme twitching that can result in the dreaded double post.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 17:11

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I too have taken contacts out with spicey fingers. The burn goes away from your eye faster than your mouth. But it still hurts. I wear gloves if I know I will have to take my contacts out later.

Capsaicin is put into creams for arthritis treatment.
Jim, do your hands feel any younger?

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Does this look familiar to anyone?

Date Location Activity
10/27/2020 12:58 P.M. Bridgeport, NJ, United States Package departed UPS Mail Innovations facility enroute to USPS for induction
10/27/2020 9:29 A.M. Bridgeport, NJ, United States Package received for sort by destination UPS Mail Innovations facility
10/24/2020 3:28 A.M. Fontana, CA, United States Package transferred to destination UPS Mail Innovations facility
10/23/2020 9:07 P.M. Fontana, CA, United States Package processed by UPS Mail Innovations origin facility
10/23/2020 7:18 P.M. Fontana, CA, United States Package received for processing by UPS Mail Innovations
10/23/2020 6:25 P.M. Carlsbad, CA, United States Shipment tendered to UPS Mail Innovations
10/20/2020 5:45 P.M. Silver Spring, MD, United States Package transferred to post office

I live in Silver Spring. The DP36 was at my post office 8 days ago but it wasn't delivered. Instead they sent me a notice that I would get it today 10/28 (which I have not) after they took it all the way up to Jersey.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 19:16

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No. Older. Everything makes me feel older.

If capsaicin (or bee stings) worked.. I'd be 22 again and put up with the pain. Doses might just be more effective.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 19:30

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I’m channel surfing and come to ESPN2 which is running “Fire On The Mountain”. Extreme sports footage with background GD music, narrated by Bill Walton, and commentary from Dave.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 19:41

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I have seen this.. it's a documentary. I saw it on YouTube or Amazon Prime, forget which. Pretty cool extreme sports flick with a deadhead twist.. crazies. surfing, skiing, kayaking.. It's pretty cool and yes, Bill is in it.

Ha.. just found it on ESPN myself. This is the one I was speaking of. Now.. which version of Fire on the Mountain is it? I know this version.... It's been released. 77? Cornell??

For what it's worth.. its been about 24 hours. The burn/tingle in my hands is just now going away. I felt a little like Homer after the psychedelic chili cookoff.

Edit: I might have conflated this with a couple other sportsumentaries I saw the same night.. I am not sure there is kayaking in it for example.. Not sure Norway skiing is in it either.. what was that other film I saw the same night? It was insane.

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