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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #971
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    Crowd noise unbearable and unnecessary

    Just listened to a few tracks on SiriusXM, Dave's usual preview special. This music is great and special as promised for the songs he presents however they went overboard with adding in fake crowd sounds since it came from a soundboard. Its overbearing, unnecessary, clearly unauthentic and nonstop. Its like listening to an old TV sitcom again once you've gotten used to no phony soundtrack. Please remove else I won't buy it. You've been warned. Thank you.

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    I can find something I dig in every era of the Dead's music, every year there is something they played I can find I enjoyed..

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    So predictable you can set your watch to it > New Release, then a flood of narcissism.

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    I always enjoy reading critical assessments of the band on here from people who obviously know what they are talking about. People who all think the same way - uniformity in any field always turns me off. Indiscriminate positivity does, too. It just doesn't ring true for me. Its quite patronising to label others as "naysayers" or "haters" if they don't like something connected to The Dead.
    Recent posts by Doc and Dark Star have surely been well worth reading. Whether you agree with the sentiments expressed in them is beside the point.

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    Well stated elbee and Forensic Doc

    you summed up my feelings on it. What on earth would motivate me to listen to a Bird Song that sounds like a cover band doing Bird Song?

    Hendrix freak it sounds like it's ok to dump on it as long as there is a description of the dump, yes? Something subtantative I think you said? The Bird Song melody in the 80s and 90s ends on a completely different note. Someone mentioned this a while back. You go to the 70s and Jerry ends on a high note and Bobby ends on low note. Jerry is typically higher in the mix so that's what you hear out of the melody, and it works to much better musical affect than the whole band ending on the low note which sounds yuckers compared to the 70s where Bobby played the same phrase lower to fill out the sound and compliment the main melody Jerry was playing. Jerry still sings the end of those verses on a high note, so it's not even like they're doing it to compensate for aging voices which get lower over time. Everytime I listen to an 80s bird song it's like the melody ends on a discordant note.

    How's this for substance. Brent hasn't the foggiest idea how to fill musical space in about 50% of the songs he plays. He sounds great as a chord guy which is great for Hammond playing, but as soon as you put him in front of the Fisher Price, he's just playing notes all over the place, as if he can only hear Phil, Billy, and Mickey. No regard to what the guitar players are doing. When Brent is off the Hammond, timing is good, musical coherence and improv note playing is way off. Did I notice this at the shows? Not really. I always got as close to Jerry as I could and the PA mix the crowd hears at the show is always much better than what ended up released in the 80s. I could barely hear Brent at the shows. I would much rather have a Bruce Vince keyboard combo atmospheric and ethereal. But even the Hammond was overplayed by Brent. Go listen to Pigpen in the WMD Port Chester show from '71. Did Brent have more energy and flexibility on the Hammond than Pigpen? Absolutely. Was it necessary? I guess so since the guitars weren't filling in the sound as they once did. Was it a better version of the band? Not even close. Pigpen knew exactly when to play and exactly when to keep his hands off the damn keyboard. Can hardly fault Brent for that when it came to the Hammond because nobody else was really pulling their weight full time instrumentally by 1987. It came and went throughout most shows. But this is really the whole point why there are a lot of people who don't care for later era Dead.

    There's your substatitive Hendrix freak. I wasn't going to post anything at all but just tell me I don't have a right to and I would be happy to provide an earful every time. Have some couth. Your analogy was cringe worthy, as if you were the one exhibiting the show in the middle of the room. Stick to your grease calls and concert stories. Those are good posts.

    Note to Space Brother - I am very happy for you. Regardless of my taste in 80s Dead, I know how much you love this. It's been a long wait for you, enjoy this one, enjoy the last one, enjoy the Giants Stadium box, and enjoy the RFK mini box.

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    I used to have 3/31/87 via WMMR-FM broadcast> VHS-HiFi> cassette (and VHS-HiFi> CD-R) and 4/7/87 via WNEW-FM broadcast> VHS-HiFi> cassette (and VHS-HiFi> CD-R). These shows are not excellent but very good shows in my humble opinion and I had pre-show and post-show DJ chatter on both recordings and on the 4/7 recording had commercials for Ben & Jerry's and a "Club Dead" (on 2nd Ave. in NYC, if I recall correctly). But for the life of me, I cannot find any of the recordings - original VHS or cassette or CD-R clones. Over the years, I heard that the Hartford shows were much better than the 3/31 & 4/7 shows. Replacing good for better ones, I guess.

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    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOB!

    Happy birthday, Bob Weir!
    72

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    Hey rockers!

    Been a subscriber since day one and will continue to do so. We've always had to take the lesser with the greater, that's not a new phenomenon, here and in life itself...........

    Having a critical opinion is not being negative. Blind fandom is not a good thing. When somebody says, “Doc I can’t really dig 1971”, I get it (which I do, and accept), but my comeback isn’t “Man, stop being so negative”. Truth be told, as much as I love 1971 shows, not every one of THOSE is worthy of release……

    I’m not an armchair sniper. People here know who I am, what I am, where I am, what I do, and what I believe in. Paid my dues and saw my fair share of shows (including some that WERE clearly “bad”), but not an expert. Have never pretended to be, just another guy who loves the music. Ungracious? Certainly not, thankful for all the hard work TPTB put into all this. Selfish? I don’t know, ask the hundreds of people I’ve spread thousands of shows to. Before people throw stones, look in the mirror first. Do I poke fun at DL, you bet, but I don’t attack people who disagree with my opinions about shows.

    Some Grateful Dead shows are black and white, but yes most are varying shades of gray. Did I say those Hartford shows sucked? Absolutely not. On the other hand, I didn’t say---and never will---that they’re classic either. What I DID do was to question the selection itself. And from what folks have communicated to me in private, I’m not the only one who feels that way. But from what I’ve seen and heard, I’m one of the few who dares to question it in public.

    Which leads me to believe---and I may be wrong----that many folks here just don’t like contrary opinions about shows. Folks, not every Dead show was sweetness and light. Yes, I’m opinionated about the Dead and won’t apologize for that. And yes, I will continue to poke the bear when and where I see fit……………

    Rock on rockers,

    Doc
    Death borders upon our birth, and our cradle stands in the grave

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    Not sure if this has already been mentioned but now that a 4-disc show is possible for this series for the first time, maybe that opens the door to shows like 5/26/73 and 6/10/73 being officially released? Would not complain one bit...

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    Jerry back on the East Toast, did not attend and have never listened to Hartford 87, but all the shows that year where just high energy a lot of band and crowd symbiosis going on. For 87 the MSG run should be released as a box set, just saying. Sun going up and then the sun it going down, shine through my window and my friends they come around............

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/22/2020 - 22:28

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n. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences.
n. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed.
It was fun when I typed it. Looking back....
Still.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 10/23/2020 - 10:33

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Looks like the Feb pick for 2021 will be 4-15-78 - William and Mary

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Submitted by cheyler196 on Fri, 10/23/2020 - 12:12

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This is the reason I had to stop subscribing, I got a '76 show and an '83 show in the same subscription. Then a 14-disc '76 box-set and an '84 DaP and now this '87 DaP is just too much. You can't POSSIBLY be out of great gigs from '68 or '69 or '70 or '71 or '72 or '73 or '74 or '77 or '78 or '79 or '80 or '82 or '85 or '90, can you? That 08-21-68 / 08-22-68 would have been pretty good...

I love shows from this time period - since we're talking fun facts, one thing i wanted to mention was the Dave's Picks from 4/22/78 (DaP 15 i think) is one of my favorite releases of all time and i play it several times a year. Looking forward to a great 2021 (god knows we need it).

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Submitted by gratefulgerd on Fri, 10/23/2020 - 13:25

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got the 2021 DAP announcement from dead net about 20 min. ago and I did it again.
Now I'm looking forward to a better next year (I'm sure music will be great, but that damn covid19 got to get away).
I'm happy the DAP series continues
Stay safe you all
G.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 04:16

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One of the best blues/soul singers to come out of England. Recent clip of him on television - from Ready Steady Go! 1966 - sharing a stage with no less than Otis Redding, doing "Shake", is worth a look too.

In fact I have just watched it again on you tube. Hard to believe that popular music used to be THAT good.

I do hope that the correct 1/4th purchase price that I paid for my Daves Picks 2020 subscription will be displayed for customs purposes on my posted Dave's Picks 36, and not the inflated version that has been posted on this site.
I will be none too happy to have to 'fork out' for taxes that I am not liable for.

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 09:51

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Naturally there are two prices for each Dave's Picks: 1/4 of the subscription price (less international shipping) and the a la carte price. I have never paid much attention to the stated value on the customs declaration as here, in the Netherlands, I don't get robbed by the customs as the price threshold for duty/tax is high enough that Dave's Picks get through without a problem. I am pretty sure that the shipping system isn't smart enough to know whether you are a subscriber or not. I have a suspicion that the a la carte price is what will be used but I am not certain. If that is the case then it may be an expensive pick for you and maybe for me too, for the first time.

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 09:58

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He made some great albums in the early 70's.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 11:51

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My copy is apparently on the way! Can’t wait to follow the long strange trip it will take.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 10/24/2020 - 18:31

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It is hard to believe that music by burden and the animals were and are still that great. I was playing see-see while walking sarge last night and could not help but yell out "See, see see rider"along with burden. I just dont understand why it's not played on the radio at all. Shipping notice received.

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Submitted by JackstrawJay on Sun, 10/25/2020 - 05:58

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Garcia Saunders Volume 15, May 21, 1971. To be released December 2020....finally something with heart and (true) electrical intentions. The vibrations and echoing magic of Garcia, with Crosby and Fierro, resonates through the river of blood that makes us human. And in that river we dance with our soul. Into the LIGHT.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 10/25/2020 - 08:34

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You go Jay!

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 10/25/2020 - 12:26

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Eric Burdon actually name checked the Dead in one of his songs-"Monterey" -"The Grateful Dead, Blew everybody's mind."

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 09:06

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Received. Tracking says here by Wednesday!

Just noticed that a cool limited Dave's Picks print with all the artwork was available. 100 pieces only. Wish I'd known about that.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Mon, 10/26/2020 - 09:34

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Spacebrother

My tracking says

“UPS could not locate the shipment details for this tracking number. Details are only available for shipments made within the last 120 days. Please verify your information.”

I’m sure it will appear one day.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 12:20

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Wow. What a nice surprise. I always seem to get mine around a week late, so this is fantastic.

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Submitted by mcgrupp216 on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 15:56

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9498. Yes, pleasantly surprised. Hah, was expecting some time before New Years!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 16:11

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....but I have faith. I've gotten shipping notices for dead.net stuff after I've already received the product. For all I know, it might be in my mailbox when i get home tonight.

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Submitted by Blind-man on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 16:43

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I'm super bummed I couldn't get a hold of the poster celebrating Volume 36...Help(on the way) I need a miracle!!!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 17:09

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No way! Good for you. I haven't even received a shipping notification yet.

Let us know your thoughts?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 17:19

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That was fast Slow Dog.

Mine says this weekend.
Which is good since last time I checked UPS didn’t have possession of the package.

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Submitted by mcgrupp216 on Tue, 10/27/2020 - 17:19

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What a wonderful essay... haven't listened yet but what a sweet reminiscence from Dave's first show. As for 38, apparently it's "a nod to a show that Dick was particularly high on." For whatever that's worth.

...except that Dick was particularly high on almost every show, Dave too come to think of it.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Speaking of high (or hot).. I am trying my hand at fermenting my first hot sauce. Hoping for something similar too Sriracha. I plucked about four bushes of ripe and red serrano's, a healthy amount of cayenne and some Hungarian hot for good measure.. chopped em all up and started the fermentation process. I never wear gloves when I cut up peppers, but I think I overdid it this time. My hands are on fire. I have a gallon of finely chopped pepper puree. My hands are pinkish and just a tad swollen.

A half hour later after washing my hands with soap and water a few times..., if I simply touch my face or arms it immediately burns. Too funny.

There's a dragon with matches that's loose on the town.

Tried my hand at fermenting apples this year too.. I have three gallons that should be ready to drink in about a week. So far so good.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 06:39

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Be careful and use gloves when you pee!!! Yeow!
Best of luck – sounds like great autumn fun! Bon appetit! Just curious: What show pairs nicely with a fresh batch of Nuclear Rooster Sauce? Onward.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 08:53

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It would be sweet to have the OU show in its entirety, but 5/17 of the show already got jigsawed into Road Trips 1.2. And while you're at it Dave, why not go all out and do a 7 show Box from 10/7 - 10/16/77 🤪

BobT steered me towards the '74 Cow Palace Show. The most I listen to it the more I like it. I had forgotten just how hot the China Rider was for example.. well, China Rider on. Like 10/11/77.. I wish it was released as a full show. Glad they grew out of that phase.

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Submitted by Jmich on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 11:24

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#9974 landed just now. Very excited to rip into this - packaging is extra fat for the double show! Nice work Dave and Co. and looking forward to DaP 2021.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 12:53

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With the new address, so hopefully no worries with this one, which would be ironic given the multitude of issues on the last six orders, I think. Also looking forward to American Beauty's arrival from Mr Bezos. Had 12+ hours of driving over the weekend, and after a failed experiment in listening to a bunch of Jack Straws from the Dave's Picks series and went 15 4/22/78, 26 11/17/71, 11 11/17/72, 9 5/14/74, 25 11/6/77, and started 21 4/2/73 when exhaustion set in. No fault of the Dead's, had been up til at least 1 every night for almost a month packing some stuff after work, and had gone the previous night until 4, then up at 7:45 to get the rest loaded with some good friends from church and my brother. Finished about 1, ate, showered, hit the road and a bad time for an Evolution of Jack Straw Seminar. My wife encouraged me to listen to something lively, so I blasted some Fall 1969 Who SBDs, first Ottawa, then Fillmore East, then Hull, the night after Leeds. That got me through to Delaware, where we bedded down for the night. The next morning we began our journey to the Boston area hoping to arrive no later than 1. All sorts of fun, but innocuous and interesting things happened with separations and the joys and terrors of a caravan with a 26' UHaul driven by your half-crazy brother in the middle. And for that leg of the journey I chose the Allman Brothers Band Fillmore West 1/29-31/71, Fillmore East 3/13/71, then 8/17/71 Boston Commons. We were way late, and stressed, but Duane and Dickey and Berry kept me fairly grounded.

I look forward to this Hartford release (went through there and New Haven along the way, and even fortuitously stumbled upon a sign for Dillon Stadium at the exit I chose for its Wendy's), but the best thing about it to me is the standard it sets that a release can be a four disc show, so 5/26/73 and 6/10/73 could get the treatment. Though, that also means no Plangentizing of those. But I do look forward to a different sound than I usually listen to, but I still haven't finished DaP 35. I didn't find what I did listen to that compelling. DaP 31 I listened to that one time, and listened to Jack a Roe and the Franklin's and Jam a couple other times, but that's about it. DaP 32 didn't move me brightly either. So, it's not just Brent era complaining. This year I loved Jai Alai, but have loved that show for years, and found this to be a huge sonic upgrade, and probably the best sounding Wall of Sound release that is a 2 track source. DaP 33 I loved the Might As Well, Jack Straw, Dire Wolf opening, the Let It Grow was great, but I don't find that on repeat much either. DaP 37 Spring '78 leaves me a bit nonplussed, too. Hoping the announcement for 38 is of a big one. I've already bought the subscription, but I'm hoping for a little more bang for those bucks next year. And if it's a 1972 box, they can take that money quite willingly.

But one thing that is setup is the stereo, so when American Beauty and that wonderful Port Chester Dark Star> Beautiful Jam> Wharf Rat> Dark Star arrive, I shall play it and hopefully enjoy what is forecast to be our first snow up here. And I will give Hartford a listen if it arrives as scheduled, hoping for some Dead rejuvenation in my spirit!

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 12:59

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I once was making extremely spicy tacos and cut up jalapenos and habaneros without gloves. I washed my hands 23 times, took a shower, and went to take my contacts out and immediately felt burning on my eye and just slept with them in that night. I later bought a jar of habanero ground up seasoning that required no touching.

But I have never heard of swollen hands like that, yikes! That may be an allergic reaction more than just a spice thing. I'm not sure you want to eat something that did that to the outside of your body,

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 14:47

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Mine was slated to arrive today, but has been delayed due to the all too well publicized USPS delivery woes. Man, are we hitting the fan?

No worries! We'll just see what other adventures are around the corner. Stay Grateful and have a Grateful Day all! :-)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 15:32

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The slight swelling and redness is gone. It can't be allergic reaction, or I would be dead by now. It was simply chopping copious amounts of really hot peppers. I mean a lot.

All is good.. I think it's sort of funny. ..like serves me right.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 15:32

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An unintended side effect is extreme twitching that can result in the dreaded double post.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 17:11

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I too have taken contacts out with spicey fingers. The burn goes away from your eye faster than your mouth. But it still hurts. I wear gloves if I know I will have to take my contacts out later.

Capsaicin is put into creams for arthritis treatment.
Jim, do your hands feel any younger?

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Submitted by MendoFog on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 17:54

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Does this look familiar to anyone?

Date Location Activity
10/27/2020 12:58 P.M. Bridgeport, NJ, United States Package departed UPS Mail Innovations facility enroute to USPS for induction
10/27/2020 9:29 A.M. Bridgeport, NJ, United States Package received for sort by destination UPS Mail Innovations facility
10/24/2020 3:28 A.M. Fontana, CA, United States Package transferred to destination UPS Mail Innovations facility
10/23/2020 9:07 P.M. Fontana, CA, United States Package processed by UPS Mail Innovations origin facility
10/23/2020 7:18 P.M. Fontana, CA, United States Package received for processing by UPS Mail Innovations
10/23/2020 6:25 P.M. Carlsbad, CA, United States Shipment tendered to UPS Mail Innovations
10/20/2020 5:45 P.M. Silver Spring, MD, United States Package transferred to post office

I live in Silver Spring. The DP36 was at my post office 8 days ago but it wasn't delivered. Instead they sent me a notice that I would get it today 10/28 (which I have not) after they took it all the way up to Jersey.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 19:16

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No. Older. Everything makes me feel older.

If capsaicin (or bee stings) worked.. I'd be 22 again and put up with the pain. Doses might just be more effective.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 19:30

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I’m channel surfing and come to ESPN2 which is running “Fire On The Mountain”. Extreme sports footage with background GD music, narrated by Bill Walton, and commentary from Dave.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 10/28/2020 - 19:41

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I have seen this.. it's a documentary. I saw it on YouTube or Amazon Prime, forget which. Pretty cool extreme sports flick with a deadhead twist.. crazies. surfing, skiing, kayaking.. It's pretty cool and yes, Bill is in it.

Ha.. just found it on ESPN myself. This is the one I was speaking of. Now.. which version of Fire on the Mountain is it? I know this version.... It's been released. 77? Cornell??

For what it's worth.. its been about 24 hours. The burn/tingle in my hands is just now going away. I felt a little like Homer after the psychedelic chili cookoff.

Edit: I might have conflated this with a couple other sportsumentaries I saw the same night.. I am not sure there is kayaking in it for example.. Not sure Norway skiing is in it either.. what was that other film I saw the same night? It was insane.

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