If you're a Deadhead in Asia, here's your new clubhouse... Welcome, and make yourselves at home!
anyone out there? "What's the point of calling shots, this cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of styrofoam and no-one's got the time"
Very nice i must say. This is the perfect forum to find heads all around the world and not only in the good old U S of A!!! I am really looking forward to hearing and meeting other Deadheads in China and Asia in general. I have been away for a bit traveling and i am actually going back to the US at the end of July. New York City here i come!!! It has been 2 years since i have been back in the States so a curious to see how things are because........ I can go on and on about politics and current affairs. Anyone interested? Greg
Hi: I am right here in the USA, but my Music (online at www.archure.net quick load midi files = 40 sec) has some International variations. When studying music at College of Marin in the 1970's, given a list of sub majors, I chose "International Music", but it's mostly Rock, with some New Age, a trace of Jazz, and even some Western (Country & Western). Back in the 70's as a Music Major, I used to see some of the Dead around, at parties. I used to have these "Neptune" parties, and "Full Moon" parties (and Venus and Jupiter too). And I gave the Dead some Astrological advice, before their European tour (1977?) providing them with a list of good days based on the chart of their first performance (since lost record of chart data). I also did Stevie Nicks chart, and tried to persuade her to stick with Fleetwood Mac, she knew my girlfriend (at a different time) Kris Karlson (Artist: she painted me a Teripin Turtle, but she kept it), and Stevie knew my good friend Marcus McCallen III (Musician), who knew Bob Wier (and all the rest undoubtedly?). . So I am trying to corner the International Market, with Rock and an International, Flavor. www.archure.net (quick load) or even quicker load time http://archure.net/music/songlist.html (no gifs no graphics, the whole page loads quicker) -Archure (Chris Holley) Music for the New Millennium by ARCHURE reg tmrk www.archure.net Music for the New Millennium by ARCHURE reg tmrk www.archure.net
I would love to check out China. Was in Thailand three and a half years ago. I love Asia! Here in Germany it's ok! Rainy though! I'm from New Zealand but actually grew up in northern Florida. Sounds like u are ragin' bro'! :) Are you kind?
Where in Germany are you living? I travel through Germany about 3 or 4 times a year. (Usually passing through). I hate flying so I only fly Lufthansa (East Africa and Europe) as I feel completely relaxed with a German flying the plane. Anyway, China is complex and there are good times and bad times. Raging, well only time will tell. Thailand, where? Changmai or Pei? and many others. I have been to Thailand a few times, but the most interesting time was in Sept. 2003 when the Queen of Burma was jailed and I was on the Burma Thai boarder and wanted to enter Burma just to say i was there. Keep in mind people that this place is completely off limits just as North Korea is. At that time Burma was this far off isolated place that one would only hear about around a camp fire. I sat with my Canadian friend on a hill feasting on ______ which caused us to miss about 3 days. but when we came to it, there were tanks and armies on both sides of the boarder. So we decided to go back to pei. This was in the Golden Triangle or near it. This part of Thailand/Burma/Vietnam is considered a very sketchy place. Look it up. Now I do good business in Burma and I would never have thought that this country would ever involve me or have anything to do with my daily living. How strange and exiting life is. By the way, the point of the story is go up north.
Yeah, Chang Mai is excellent! A lot cleaner, a milder climate, and not such bad smells coming out of the sewer grates on the street corners! :) Didn't have time to make it up to Pei, next time! :) I'm based in Hamburg, just around the corner from where the Beatles honed their craft! It's a great city and highly recommended! If ur passing through at any point in time let me know beforehand so I can show u around! J Are you kind?
And I am only 20 minutes from Frankfurt airport-so same goes for me, Trifecta. As for your comment in the Europe thread about Germans being boring, you are basically correct, but also slightly wrong. Are some really wacky Germans out there-but you just have to find them. Or are also a handful where their coolness and individuality are deeply buried, and you have to get to know them to notice-back me up on this Jodester, surely you know what I mean. Was never in China myself, but nowadays alot of the companies in my industry are producing in China, so could be that I end up paying a visit there one of these days. A friend of mine who went there said she gained a new appreciation of Western comforts and the value of individual life when she was in China. Somehow she ended up paying a visit to an orphanage that was full of deprived and unwanted little girls, said was about the saddest thing she ever saw.
Tiger Lilly, I must apologize as that statement about Germans being boring is a horrible generalization. China: Yes you do gain an appreciation of Western comforts and the value of individual life after being here. It all depends on the China you actually live in because if you are living in Shanghai and if you are an expat or in an upper income bracket then you can live very well. I could honestly say that I live better here than I could if I lived in the States. Here a made costs about $120-130 per month so you just get a couple of them and they pretty much do everything from cleaning, cooking, making beds, etc. The soft bed had to be imported from England as the Chinese enjoy sleeping on the box spring mattress! For me there are 2 China's, there is the educated class middle - upper class and there are the uneducated classes (peasants) who are the majority of the society. I must say this first, that 99% of Chinese people either upper lower anything are usually nice people. At least from my experiences I have always been treated well and in the most remote parts of China I have received smiles. I also feel safer here in China than I would in the States. There are no guns and very little crime. I can walk anywhere in the City of 24 million people at any time of the night and not have a problem. (From being on Tour I have been to every major city in the States 4-5 times if not more and I can tell you some horror stories! I will save that for another thread.) Of course there could be exceptions, but over all China is a safe place and Children are looked upon as being treasure so your children are safe as well (from kidnapping and sex offenders.) There is crime that involves murder etc but 99% of the time this is internal family dispute etc, but again this is not too common. Little respect for individual life: I agree there are 1.4 billion people here and human life is not worth too much and is very expendable. I have many horror stories some are from my own experiences, some I have read in the English New Paper, and some I have heard from word of mouth. Most of these stories take place outside of the big cities in the country side where the majority of the people live that have very little education. This is where the stories of the orphanage probabley originated from . These places exist and the thought of giving your baby away because it is a girl horrifies me. As I know many Chinese people in Shanghai who have girls and love them very much, I can say that the orphage you mention above does not represent the country as a whole. I hope that I have given you a clearer picture into China. And there were rumors that The Dead where coming to Shanghai and Beijing but it seems these rumors have died out, but if it ever comes true then this would be a good time to come to China!!!
I love to hear first had adventures in what is for me unfamiliar territory. The more people who speak openly about their experiences makes the world a better and more tolerant place, I think. And no apologies necessary about "boring Germans". Trust me, I can rant about that very subject for hours, and HAVE on occasion, but I have adopted the lovely French habit of feeling compelled to state an opposite point of view, in order to foster discussion and debate. Is my opinion that German society tends to be very afraid of individualism, and being seen as different; and this fear is a "hangover" of the Nazi days. But again is only my own personal thesis.
dude, did you send Columbo to speak with the ticket agent? there is no way the dead wold play in China before they played in a US city... peace. "What's the point of calling shots, this cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of styrofoam and no-one's got the time"
Might be a long shot but considering going to China to teach English in preparation fortheir hosting of the Olympics. I read all I can of first hand accounts, impressions, advice, etc. I know 'China' doesn't mean 'all of China', that a place so vast and old must be more diverse and complicated than a 'never been there' person could imagine. Kinda nervous about going there, but almost (or lots more) curious. Mainly, need a job, 57 tomarrow, teaching positions not easy to get, especially at my ripe old (and in the way) age. Definately need to 'reset my clock', find a new purpose for my efforts. Money isn't everything, by a long shot. A place to go and a reason to do, work worthy of my time and efforts are what I seek. Been a teacher forever, special educ., early childhood, etc. Kids grown, time to reclaim my own life and times, adventures, fun, friends, music, purpose...anyway, this being a world- wide forum, expect more info. than I can read. Thanks to those who have written re:China already, as I need to decide, apply for positions, ASAP. Not necessarily wanting to run away from current life, children, etc., but need to put some fresh air in my tired tires, reset my clock, find the 'me' I lost track of during the last 20 + years. Being Dad is good, but peace and quiet in an 'empty nest' is not my desire. Want to regain a view of a future that has become blurry and short in my mind's eye. Plenty of time left, don't want it to be a quick blur. Want ? Need ? Don't really know but gotta go. Further.
CC Joe, I have sent my secretary there 3 times and "typical Chinese style," we have received mixed information every time. I have not done too much pushing ever since you and i had this conversation in May or June. I will keep my eyes and ears open.
Woodfishtoo, Sorry i really cant give too much advice on this one as i have never done it. When i first came to China i hung out at a bar called "The Kiwi', which i believe is closed now, but most of the patrons were English teachers from England and her former colonies and these guys would party pretty hard. My wife stopped me from going to this bar because i would come home a complete wreak. This was about 3-4 years ago. Keep in mind that the bars here do not close until the last person leaves and when you are with a bunch of Ozzies and Kiwis you tend to not leave until the sun is up. These boys can drink. Anyway i used to bring in Dead Shows and everyone loved it even though they never heard of the Dead. I was usually the youngest one with ages from 50 to 35. Over all i would say that China is a very good escape and you would be suprised at what you find over here. I would suggest trying to stay in a bigger city or if you want to get lost in China go to a smaller city, but you will do a complete 180 in your daily life. Anyway, i have been all over this country and have experienced many things and at this point i try not to leave Shanghai, but when i first came here my goal was the smaller cities and the country side etc. I speak Chinese as well so its easy for me to get around and was during that time period. If you do not speak any Chinese i would not recommend going off on your own unless the School has something set up for you. The first thing i noticed (and you will too) is that the American Propaganda machine was wrong as the only soliders that i saw at that time where the ones i would put my arm around while drinking a pint of beer out on the streets at 3 o'clock in the morning for a photo shoot!!! Things have calmed down some but things are still crazy over here. I hope this comment assits you with your potential journey.
http://sh.piao.com.cn/en_piao/ticket_1143.html# The above is the link and i had contact with the agent today and they told me that a production company was working on the booking and they said that it should happen but they are not sure when. Thats all i have and i wish i had more. I will keep you posted. greg
a while back, I emailed them to, but they never replied. anyway, while I will keep positive thoughts about the possibility, in reality, it is quite doubtful. thankx for the effort. peace. "What's the point of calling shots, this cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of styrofoam and no-one's got the time"
Where are you in the STates?
Sorry its easier to find comments in this forum as there are not too many here. The Grateful Dead The Grateful Dead where an amazing experience. To this day I can feel what a show felt like. (My last show was Albany 1995) The sound of a train chugging along and feeling the power that just descended onto this far away city for a couple days. When I would visit Northern Cali just North of San Fran when I was twisting and turning on those dusty roads in the middle of nowhere on the way to visit friends, I would feel the power and the influence of the Grateful Dead. The positive vibes and the thought of a complex world and the search for knowledge truly drew me in after the music had enlightened me. The Grateful Dead scene ended as we knew it in 1995, but this complex and influential world is carried on. Everyone on this site is evidence to this. It’s strange that I perceive the word "complex' as being a negative notion these days, but when I speak of "complex" in this comment it has more of a positive and discovering overtone to it. Anyway, this world was carried forward in my life after the Dead stopped touring until I could no hold on any longer. The bus stopped for me while I was back stage "Clinic" at my last Phish show in Mountain View Cali 2000, as I found myself disenchanted with my connection to Phish which extended beyond 175 + shows. It was not just Phish’s fault it was just the need for change and everyone who has followed similar foot steps can attest to this. The road is for gamblers and as good as we may be at surviving, the end has to come and you must turn the page. My bones needed some patching and books seemed the way to patch them and whenever I lifted my head from the books I jumped on an airplane to faraway places and then returned to the States and studied more. I have a compulsive personality so when I do something I get into it and there is no stopping me from finding the core. This too was influenced by the Dead because I always related the GD to intelligence and far away places and the Core. I remember reading Relex and there was a section called “We Are Everywhere,” and we are and there are reasons why we are everywhere. These days I listen to a lot of Dead and Jazz. As there is a good Jazz club in town and it is actually the oldest Jazz club in China so it has a lot of history to it as well. Gangsters and the Shanghai underworld back in the 20s and 30’s. I recall the first time I went to a Jazz club. The decision to go to this club, knowing that I was way underage and there was no way that I could have anything other than a cup of coffee, was based on the fact that I wanted to get closer to the music of the Grateful Dead. To this very day the Grateful Dead influence me and I hope that my children embrace this experience as much as I had. So far so good! All the stars are gone but one Morning breaks here comes the sun Cross the sky now sinking fast Show me something built to last
deadheadsland yukotopia in japan http://www.yukotopia.jp/pc/index_j.html check out the Jerry's Week Special 2007 giglist,looks tasty http://www.yukotopia.jp/pc/contents/flyer/2007flyer/07.08.01_09.Jerrys0…
Any Deadheads here in Singapore? I just moved here, would love to meet some kind folk to hang with.
Hey woodfishtoo, u should check out daves esl cafe by doing a google search. There are forums with posts from folks doing the same all around the world including China. That's how I got info about Germany where I teach bro'! You will find all the answers there bro' and probably some contacts to get work! Best wishes and luck!!! J Are you kind?
long after the band leaves the stage, the music played on. it's a delight to once again join the community that touches deep, even from Shanghai China. There ain't no boundaries 'xcept for the ones we place on ourselves. My interaction with the music and the community is sporadic and often unplanned in the post-performing years. Yet, when it happens, it's powerful and feels good. This is one of those.... Peace Love and Understanding jeffyd
Hey Now -- are there any other kind-folk in Korea (south, of course) besides me? I'm originally from Michigan, but have been living over here for more than 20 years -- missed a lot of great late-era GD shows by doing so, but did make it back to San Francisco for a few, once in awhile -- and during all this time i did not neglect to build up my tape/CD collection -- could now be the biggest one in Asia except for (masonskids) in Singapore [hi, Tim!], for all i know... Anyway i'm hangin' in Seoul now, playing the Academic game... If there are any other Deadheads now in Korea, let's get together -- drop me a note at this login-name at yahoo-dot-com. And if any deadheads come over here for tourist or business visit, or a semester of study or tour of army duty, whatever, do get in touch and i'll be pleased to play "host" for you a little, give you some orientation.... Keep On Aikoin'!
Long time no see! Glad you made it!
Thanks marye, it's great that you're doing this here... E-mail sent to gespacho jones... Isn't it such a tragedy that the GD never came over for an Asian tour? Imagine, Tokyo Osaka Busan Seoul Beijing Xian Shanghai HongKong Bangkok Singapore... maybe more -- what a great tour to follow it would've been... at least Northeast Asia. And still now, neither 'The Dead' nor Ratdog nor Phil& will do it... don't know if they ever even consider it... I sure wish they would!
Just found a bar that just opened playing GD and other good music!! Finally!! In talks to have a Dead Night. Peace! PICCONE Musical Pub Taojiang Lu, 1, 2F Xuhui District 200031 Shanghai - China Tel: +86 21 64675926 Fax: +86 21 64675996
I recall the morning I was awoken by my mother calling from afar, I had just returned from Phish Tour recently and had a party at my parents house the night before and only fell asleep at about 7am and she called me at noon or somewhere around this time and told me to turn on the T.V. (I was 20 yrs old) She said that she was very sorry and she would call back later on. I said, ok why mom what's wrong? She said Greg please just turn on the T.V. and then I will call you back later on. I hung up the phone and immediately turned on CNN and found out that Jerry Died. I went through my process and continued to have a party at my house and broke every boundary and invited everyone I knew within the scene. This day lives with still today as it does you. Please check out this feed from YouTube. This is why I love Jerry as he was enjoying something that I am now just discovering. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veMIlpyYoqc&mode=related&search=
Hey ya'll, another fine feathered friend in Seoul. I got a message this morning that there is a rumoured dead cover band here, and I finally got a lock down on one of their shows. They play the rocky mountain tavern in Itaewon on December 8th. I'm normally not in for cover bands (DSO I love of course) but over here any kind of water is gonna taste like wine, so I'll be there for sure.If anyone's in Seoul and interested in going, hit me up with a message at email@example.com Peace! "Looking for a shove in some direction"
Just found this site. I've been living in Shanghai for the last 5 years. Wednesday night's at Oscars, you can tune in to some acoustic Dead, Neil and others. Come out and support the cause.
to my brother. He's been living/working throughout Southeast Asia (Taiwan, Indonesia, China, Vietnam) for over 20 years.
Hey do i know you? I have also been in Shanghai for about 5 and i have not been to oscars for a couple of years. let me know.trifecta
Jesus here … I have a message for all of you from beyond your realm. This is a Message from Jerry, Pigpen, Brent, Keith, and Bill. To all you who have taken this site and made it about personally attacking one another; who have made a point to forget about the music completely, who have disregarded what this web site is all about. You all have disappointed us greatly. Remember it’s about the music and what it means to each and every one of you. Stop the personal attacks against one another. There is a lot going on in this world right now. And not everyone is going to agree with each other on what should be done. The end of days is near. We need to come together and be united. No I’m not from the Chinese government. I have nothing to do with any government. Nothing we say on these forums about the world is going to change anything. Pray to who or what you believe in. At this point unless you are going to the different places or raising money to help fund these causes; all you can do is pray. So QUIT your bickering it’s time to get along and enjoy the music while we still have the freedom to listen to it. And Remember why we are here on this site in the first place!!!!
sorry could not stand seeing Jesus Christ as the last entry in Asia. Is Jesus Christ just a fictitiousctisous character anyway?
we're not entirely sure.
That was very good. LOL
2 weeks there in mid July visiting my "baby" brother. Anyone out that way?
Anyone have any thoughts on Nepal? I might have the opportunity to visit there in October. I would be very grateful for any advice or suggestions. In peace, tom
who ever went there really loved it (subject to being prepared for the altitude and stuff) but I get the sense the situation there may be a bit complicated these days, so I'd be curious on the current info also.
and a side trip to Cambodia. What a blast! Stayed with my brother in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). Took a weekend flight to Cambodia (Siem Reap) and explored the Angkor Wat temple ruins (and several others). Absolutely amazing. Hung out in the evenings at Sheridan's, a funky ex-pat pub in HCM City. Acoustic music (live) most nights. Mostly 60s/70s tunes on the sound system. Couple of Dead tunes floated by. Good times. Anyone gets the chance, check it out.
Just another head saying hi from Korea. I came here in August 1 '95 in order to save $$$ to tour...guess we all know what happened next. Been here since then, going back for good sometime around March of next year; if the rumors are true, I just might get to hit a couple of shows for my welcome home. Hoping, hoping.
Any Deadheads in Japan? Anyone near Hamamatsu?
Hi y'all, There are a couple of Grateful Dead tribute shows coming up next weekend - 24th and 25th of October in Seoul, South Korea. If you live in Korea, it'll give you a chance to meet the other Deadheads here and have a great weekend in the spirit. Both shows are in Hongdae district, 24th at Club Ta and 25th at Freebird. If you're on facebook, you can find the event page under name of "Spiritual Hustlers take Hongdae - Club Ta / Freebird." Hope to get some Deadheads filling those clubs. Oh, both shows are FREE by the way! All the Best, Zee P.S. If you're not on Facebook and want more info on those shows, please don't hesitate to e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Here in japan there is a Dead meeting every year by the Mount Fuji. This year I have driven thru 3 states a full set PA for the second stage, but due to lack of decent organization I were rip off of the promissed travel expenses and rent cost, I realy wonder if the Oshino organization is linked officialy to the official Gratefull dead in any way and if so, why is such disonest person in charge of handling the Gratefull name in such ungratefull manner???
Hey Now! My name is Jeremy, I have been in Bangkok for 3.5 years, I have met one or two heads here, the biggest being my boss at my school. I play guitar, sing and have TONS of music to share. Looking forward to hearing from you. Happy Holidaze (~);-)
Camp Phoenix...any fellow deadheads around?
but i'd bet it has nothing to to with GD Productions Here's a link I found http://deadheadsunite.tribe.net/photos/3346df98-9ddf-4b51-803a-7e7f534c…
From Dharamsala (Home of the exiled Dalai Lama in India) to Kathmandu, Nepal I've seen the influence of the Dead. The first time I saw the Dylan & The Dead cassette was in a tea shop in Dharamsala run by a young Tibetan. Kathamandu, a hippie mecca in the late 60s and 70s with it's Freak St. in the touristy area of Thamel, has it's shops with Dead T-shirts. By the Boudhanath Stupa there are a few places here and there where you will hear the music of the Dead. There is certain rock station there that plays a lot of Dead but don't know if they still do. I recommend both places to any heads traveling to that part of Asia.
the natural sounds coming from the place. They will transport you to a different temporal rhythm which is ageless. You will never wish to leave due to your lack of gravitational positioning making you impervious to any sort of forward momentum.
The world really is round and I keep going round and round it :) I install telephone systems for a living, great big expensive ones that takes months to install and I do it in such fun places as Lome Togo, Brazzaville Congo and Kathmandu Nepal (to name but a few). Everywhere I go I have my trusty MP3 player and speakers with me. More than a few times I have been working hard with a Dead concert playing at a suitable (LOUD) level, only to turn around and find quite a few of the local workers dancing away in the halls of the building I am working in. We even used a really good copy of 10/22/78 (Winterland after the Egypt trip) to test the outside speakers at the U.S. Embassy in Lome Togo. It was the only music played there that the neighbors did not complain about. In fact they asked for more!