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.... enjoys the Trey Anastasio Band, their set at Lockn' is streaming live for free on YouTube
https://youtu.be/dSFpGA3w2SE
.... rumor is Derek Trucks is gonna sit in for the second set.
The Norman interview is grate news nitecat. Time to multitask??
Edit. 5 pm PST? Guess it's over. Stupid work.

Muchas Gracias VGuy

I'm with you mustin, let them out! I don't get it.

and vguy, Ed puts those shows up in an accessible cloud a few days after broadcast. That's how I'm going to listen to it sometime soon. I listened to some of the first hour and they chatted about Norman's process, and the difficulties of working with such old tapes. It's a very cool conversation.

*1-20-1979 Shea's Theatre~Buffalo,NY
*4-3-1987 The Centrum~Worcester,Mass.
*8-6-1971 Hollywood Palladium (good grief...might be my favorite Truckin'...for sure one of 'em) (Other One->Me & My Uncle->Other One ain't no joke either...)
*6-4-77 The Forum~Inglewood,Ca.
*12-16-1978 Nashville,Tennessee
Put some headphones on and get some.
:O)

I can remember the first time I heard that. At a friends house, on an old audience recorded cassette. Must be about 25 years ago now-he had the biggest collection of Dead tapes I had ever seen. And due to what I have come to realise was characteristic Deadhead generosity, so soon did I.
Anyway, I can still see him watching my face for signs of recognition as they went from The Other One to Me and My Uncle. Incredible jamming.
It was something of a golden age for me and Dead music, the early 1990s. Not because of the music they were playing at the time, but due to all these amazing tapes that suddenly fell into my lap, and the communal listening. Happy days.

Thanks for the shout out DaveRock...I do love me some Ween, but don’t stop with Chocolate & Cheese. 12 Golden Country Greats, Mollusk & White Pepper are all excellent from top to bottom. Others here might recmend more?, but those four are my go to’s.

Spinners - I first encountered them at Further back in the late 90s. Very strange was my initial reaction. I attended a good number of concerts in this time frame, but experienced nothing like the Gd scene of course. Over the last several years as I continue digging on this band, attending numerous cover concerts and then D&C this summer, I have garnished new appreciation for spinners. This is all just my opinion, but First, I think it’s important to understand that there are different types of spinners, and that for the most part spinners are really just dancers who are very emotionally involved and enjoying the music on a whole other level. I used to think that this had to be drug induced, but I know better now for certain that it doesn’t have to be. I only know this because as my own listening experiences have intensified, I am not ashamed to admit that I find myself morphing into a spinner of sorts. I have never found a band that gets me emotionally involved like this one does and so I dance and spin at live shows, and in the living room, and sometimes doing yard work. Granted a pocket full of stems and caps can make this experience more fun, but certainly not necessary to achieve a spin or more. I’ve also been very buzzy lately and have not finished my Gorge D&C story, but here is a small sample. On Saturday night at The Gorge (2nd show), my wife and I were on the floor/in the pit, and there was a type of spinner that I had not encountered before. He was spinning in place, straight as a pencil like a figurine ballerina stuck in a jewelry box. Arms were straight on his side without waving around or being raised. His head was down, looking towards the ground, and he appeared to be mumbling something quietly (maybe lyrics?) like Dustin Hoffman in Rainman. The only movement was a slight shift in his feet which allowed the continuous spin. My wife told me later that for a few seconds she put her finger on top of his head, and that he kept spinning away. I have not graduated to this level of spinning, but with good practice, who knows what could happen. I’m reminded of One flew over the Cuckoos Nest!

Dead and Co Tix - someone asked the going rate. I bought 2 on the floor for both upcoming nights at Hampton. I paid $10 extra (180.00 per ticket) for the 3D Collector Tickets, so after Ticket Bastard was done adding their fees it was a little over $200 per ticket. Shhh....I have yet to ask my wife permission. It will be a negotiation which I have a very good chance of losing. If I lose, I figure I can sell them and make my money back.

Today is my daughters 9th birthday party. We have rented a local shelter at a park and will be hosting 40 children for a picnic romp. I will not be tripping, but it may feel like it...pray for me!!!

KCJ

PS—As of last night, according to recent GD email update, less than 1,000 left of the Giants BluRay box set. I pre-ordered the vinyl a couple weeks back, but finally pulled the trigger on the box as well!

...please check your messages...

I agree. I would totally buy 11/5/79 and 11/6/79 if they were available to download. I don’t see a reason to remove them from dead.net if they are only digital. I wonder if the archive has comparable sound quality to the official releases.

Thats january, not a typo'd 11

Wow. High energy affair.

Excellent show.

NITECAT: nice to see ya! Thanks for the tip. Hopefully I’ll get to that as it sounds like a tech feast for this geek!
SPINNERS 74: now even more intrigued. Curious how, when and where all that began?
JRF68: 1/20/79, my first....curious what you thought?
MUSTIN321: Philly 79. I was at 11/9/79, my biffday, and have thought that was a good show, but think that 11/6/79 show is my favorite from that tour? At end of year I will have to check out the December Oakland shows for 40th anniversary though for better comparison. I recall their awesome, and they seem to get love here, but I haven’t listened to them in quite awhile....
STOLTZY: coming at us with all kinds of good stuff!; 3/23/75, damn, didn’t know that was out, shee-ite. Yet more to covet! I’m with you, one time around and I’d be down! Now, gettin down to the sound of da rubber band man, I’m down with that! Love all that early 70s funk and Soul Jazz. Dove into the soul jazz pretty deep a few years back; Idris Muhammad, the Mighty Burner, Melvin Sparks, Donald Bird, Grover Washington Jr before he went all Kenny G, The “Smith’s” on Organ, Deodato, so much good music!
Some may say nay, but we are the knights that say nit, or Summer 85, fug yeah, bring it!
1/5/79; what’s the sound quality on that one? That whole early 79 era is sorta uncharted space, but being my early times I feel I need to dig into that sometime. But I believe BobT, Boblopes? sorry, senile, one of the Bobs has mentioned there’s not much of this in the vault...
7/4/89; I agree there are some ebbs etc, but this one over the years continues to grow on me. I tried to blow through as much of the 89 summer tour anniversary’s as I could this summer, and to me that one stands out. I think I might like it more than Alpine even, gulp, I know, that’s saying a lot and I’m sure some will have alternative feelings on that LOL. How spoiled are we that we even have so much awesome music to debate over!
8/6/74; been circling around on this one lately. Did an abridged version again last night; Playing>>Scarlet>>Playing, Eyes, UJB, and the whole He’s gone until the end sequence. After finally scoring Dave’s 17 been getting better acquainted with that one. Maybe not as strong overall as some of the previously released 74 stuff, but I’d say that bar is pretty high! Yumm, need more summer 74! Perhaps that 7/25/74 DS etc?
BEER; icremkid, Stoltzy? Whom ever suggested that Bells, Tanks! So far have only been able to get the Two Hearted Ale But man that has been an awesome summer treat. Looking forward to trying some of their other nectar! Been turned on to some great new brewskis this summer; Oscars Can-o-Bliss, both the Hazy and the tropical, and Freemonts Summer Ale, American Pale Ale. I think Freemont May be my new favorite brewery. Anchor will always hold emeritus standing, but I’m not sure I’ve had a Freemont I didn’t like yet. Hearing about Vermont being the new big boy on the Beer block now, but not familiar, YET, with any? Any suggestions out there?
I’ve have one for all y’all: Bonfire Brewing, just a mile into town, many awesome flavors. Fire starter ipa is a good start, personally been big into their WtFO for probably the past year. Damn, this is making me thirsty but I have too much to do! Dooooo!
Have Great Weekend All!

....today is the anniversary of our favorite show!!
https://archive.org/details/gd85-08-24.sbd.vernon.13991.sbeok.shnf
Figured i'd remind you.

A better concert venue than ski resort.

Behind Boreal is Sugar Bowl which has some really nice terrain.
My favorite is Squaw/Alpine.
Sugar Bowl is second fav in the Tahoe area.

Oroborous,
Bell’s is mighty fine stuff. Hope you can try some other flavors soon.

I was there! Dusty and hot, with plenty quipment issues. Ground was full of weeds and rocks. Guess what? I still had fun!

https://youtu.be/yKrxPnffGWw
Mind officially blown 😨

Double Two Hearted starts shipping Monday.

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/1164550310985179137

....that is all.

Hey VGuy.. I was at that show.. I think I posted about it here, so much fun.. what a great venue and a great festival.

Thanks for sharing.. going to pass it on to the buddies I went with.

Otis.. check, if you're out there.. check your email.

Checkout this live one! Start at about the 33:20 mark for a great China Doll > Midnight Rider....the whole show is great!
https://youtu.be/InVgjMseA_o

These were being sold not too long ago through Warner Music’s store on amazon. They are no longer available, but I got this email the other day from an online retailer that sells all kinds of band merch called merchbar. They have some of the 30 TATS All Music Edition box sets available. For anyone that missed out on this box set and would like to get at least the music edition, here is the link:
https://www.merchbar.com/rock-alternative/grateful-dead/grateful-dead-3…

Dales pale ale is one of the best can o suds you can drink!! Thanks Colorado!!!!!!!

The pigeon is the spinner of the bird world.

....are the best. However, India Pale Ales are the big brother beating down the younger Pale Ale sibling though. Soooooo....

What does the India mean for IPA ?

http://allaboutbeer.com/beer_style/india-pale-ale/
....

Interesting article VGuy, I wasn't really even wondering about this until reading the back and forth between you and Carlo13. I actually have a couple of hops plants growing in my garden in full flower right now, planted them just on a goof, it was like a couple bucks for a piece of root stock so I grabbed a couple and threw them in the garden. They are actually pretty cool, kind of interesting flowers.

Gave the 11/6/77 Broome County show from DaP 25 this afternoon while I had the house to myself, pretty enjoyable show from my point of view. Some flubbed lyrics on FOTM but some cool jamming throughout. The Good Lovin' sounds really similar to the version on Shakedown Street, an album I think is due for another spin.

....in California during the '90's, and heads were selling Sierra Nevada Pale Ales. I was like, " what is that?" Kinda like spinners, my mind's eye was opened.
So, in the end, cheers!

....of the Wizard of Oz today PST. (barely made it).
You know what that means.

Very interesting. Thanks.

Was at all these shows. I didn't think of the 7/12/87 as being an early show. I always considered it as a 3 set show. It just happens to be that the 3rd set was all Bob Dylan songs, with Dylan singing. Its too bad that the 3rd set isn't included in this box set.

But I can't wait to hear it. all over again

Friday's Live Archive Show, with guest Grateful Dead mastering engineer Jeffrey Norman, is now available for streaming whenever at www.MixCloud.com/LiveArchiveShow.

Maybe you've seen this before. I hadn't and Bill has some cool things to say.

https://www.salon.com/2016/04/16/i_am_the_human_being_that_i_am_today_b…

Thanks, I will see if beerman can hook me up with some of that double next time!

Enjoyed the Bill Walton interview. So all we had to do was knock on the door and ask for Ramrod... Now you tell us.

...a pretty large box set with many additions ...
I believe it’s gonna be a welcomed boxset fro most fans., I’m in 100% , graditude in a bohemian standing , is that the correct phrase I mean ?! I’m sorry, for my poorly written posts. I’m doing the best I can. I’m trying reall hard to be good and get better. I don’t want to give up I’m a fighter for my well being both physical and. SpiritualY 🙏❤️🤠

Good to see a post from you

Good stuff

I jhereby call for some 84 shows for release. A lotta good shows

Such as 5/6/84

AGREE

4/20/84 is a good one: https://archive.org/details/gd84-04-20.sbd.miller.27775.sbeok.flacf

4/20

heh

Sixtus

R.I.P.~Neal Casal
...thanks for the music.

Oroborous- I emailed Lemieux about a year ago to see about the early 1979 tape quality in the Vault. He basically said and I am paraphrasing here) there is really not anything that meets the audio quality benchmark for release. I can't speak for January 5th, but I did download a great audience recording of January 10th, witch has either the last or second to last Godchaux Dark Star. I don't listen to any AUD recordings except this, and I find it incredibly "even" throughout Dark Star (i.e. no fluctuations in volume, patches, flutter, flitter, etc). Like the old Dunkin' Donuts jingle said....."it's worth the trip". That being said, I only downloaded about half of it:

Music Never Stopped
Shakedown Street
I Need a Miracle
Bertha
Good Lovin'
Dark Star
Wharf Rat
St. Stephen
Stagger Lee

Most of that Godchaux era Shakedown Street material in one show (FOTM doesn't really count). From the Heart of Me is not there, though I like it and would have enjoyed it. Shakedown Street is there ! The only official Godchaux release you get of that on is Rocking the Cradle.......unless of course you've bastardized your digital rip of "Road Trips: From Egypt with Love" by including the Estimated => Shakedown from 11/24/78, which fits right in from an "audio and performance sound representation" standpoint). Or I suppose if you were a real jack-hole, you may may have slipped the Rocking the Cradle" Shakedown Street into "The Closing of Winterland" folder in your digital folder - but I haven't done that yet. But you know, they are both multi-tracks releases, and they DID play Shakedown the previous night, and they SHOULD have played it at the Closing.....and so on and so on (by the time you're finished rationalizing it, the Ring really was a birthday present to Gollum).

Dennis - I'm still very interested in the PM you sent, I'm just in a weird place with my internet data rate until I get some things taken care of. Thanks for thinking of me. I'll let you know as soon as I get it.

I am so far behind on posts, I don't think I'm ever getting caught up. Apologies if I owe anyone a response.

--KeithFan2112

Can’t believe he is gone.

He was a guitarist that I was looking forward to seeing for many years into the future.

Thanks for confirming that. I know there is some decent audience tapes from then, and I have heard a decent 1/10/79, but always hoped/wondered that there might be something better in the vault. Alas not to be, which is a bummer since my first is 1/20/79, which I have an Audience copy that sounds decent, but the levels are all over the place.
Anyway, thanks and hopefully you’ll get stuff figured out and will be back regularly entertaining us soon!

My only real exposure to his music is the bonus material with the Soldier Field 50th box bonus material as played between sets. I listen to that every so often and like it.

I never realized how much he has really contributed to other artists and am surprised he slipped under my radar.

Any recommendations of his stuff to explore?

Get well soon ZLMG! Sending good vibes your way.

Listened to the Dylan & the Dead a couple of days back. A box with all if their sets together plus the mass of rehearsal material would make for a pretty substantial sized set. I seem to recall a lot of rehearsal material in circulation that would be lovely to be professionally mastered.

I used to kind of gloss over the Dylan and the Dead CD, but upon recent listening, it's incredibly underrated. I never really sought out this material in my cassette collecting days, but realize I've been missing out on some true Grateful Magic.

Please be true. Would love to see a nice set of The Dead with Dylan.

I caught the '87 Alpine run just prior to the Dylan/Dead stadium run, and those shows were pure magic. Probably among my fondest live Dead experiences. Not quite the massive draw they would become weeks later, but playing at the top of their game for that era. Such a bummer the vault recordings for this run aren't well recorded. This would have been a Holy Grail '87 set. '87 Red Rocks is one they do have and hope to see released.

I'm pretty stoked for this Giants box. The preview material is awesome. The artwork in the promos look similar to the style of the last May '77 box.

Don't know about you guys but 8/27/72 is my Dead show 3 hour hike music for the day.

Have a good one.

Ooh before I forget, someone mentioned Road Trips '79 Spectrum downloads. I too wish those were made available again. Missed out on that too. Would love to have.

Thank you for posting this link. I had a chance to listen to a good chunk of it. Very interesting. Sounds like Norman keeps digital copies of all the projects he works on in 24 bit/192. Got me thinking how great it would be to see some of these items released in Multi-channel formats like SACD or DVD Audio. That would be really sweet!
Also got me thinking based on this interview that the entire Vault had not been digitized yet. You would think this would be a big priority for them. I would volunteer to help them out with that project.
Have they ever disclosed how many shows they have in the Vault?

Spacebrother, I was at Alpine in 87 as well, awesome time. We had a small camper with four guys. Parked in the lot for the duration and of course had the time of our lives. The 87 crowd was so different than the 86 crowd we saw the year before. I think the drought was 88, remember that run?

Neal was the guitar player in Chris Robinson Brotherhood and there are a lot of CRB show recordings on their website.

Neal was also in Hard Working Americans, which I think was better than CRB.
Check out the CD/DVD “First Waltz”.

Also, Circles Around The Sun started playing live shows, some of which are on YouTube. They also put out a second album.

Very sorry and surprised to read of his passing. I was lucky enough to see the Chris Robinson Brotherhood in London in 2015.

My favourite CRB recording is the live Betty's Blends volume 2, also from 2015. Features They Love Each Other, and a great opening Vibration and Light Suite.

I know i over plug 11/20/78 Cleveland Music Hall Set II, way too much.... But if you get a chance, I always had an audience version, listen to Music Never Stopped to Aiko!!! Especially the audience tape.... Scarlet>Fire to open second set.....Estimated into He's Gone and a Drums with Garcia on steel drums!!!!

It is sad to hear about Neal Casal. I was only familiar with his work on Circles Around the Sun. Man life is short and it can end suddenly. You never know...

Talking about 1984 shows I recently got into 6/27/84 Merryweather. It's a solid show, well played and with a great setlist. I haven't had much exposure 84 shows so I was happy with what I heard. I need to listen to more from that year.

1/10/79 is a great show. I downloaded it from the Archive years ago. It's a bummer it is not in th vault but the audience source I have isn't bad. Now the Dark Star is pretty good for the era and there is also a St. Stephen in the 2nd set to. I am fairly positive this is the last time both of these songs were played in the same show. However the rest of the show is really good to. I haven't listened to it in a while but i recall Shakedown and Music Never Stopped being exceptional.

....there is a very nice Matrix of that show out there.
Regarding Casal. I really don't get it. He looked so happy this last weekend at Lockin'. I'm not a psychiatrist but I have a nice couch.
Boggles my mind.
The build up tuning into Mexicali at the RPI field house in the stuff I crave