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May 1977: Get Shown The Light (All Music Edition)

WHAT'S INSIDE:
Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
Four folios housed in a slipcase
5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
50-page book of liners and photographs
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

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February 21, 2017 - 5:08am

#3931

Oroboros

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I was involved in family health issue all weekend, so I missed

this release. But then I rationalized this must the powers of the universe telling me I had enough Dead in my collection, possibly similar to what others have posted. Then I told myself I was sad as I would not be able to have this pristine sound from those great shows. Of course I am constitutionally incapable of making a long story short, but here is my take. I welcome the 'music only' opportunity. I also echo SpaceBrother, Antonjo (and others) that a 'no frills' music only (even download, maybe I could get my sons to help me with that) version of that 1969 box set would be very welcome for those of us who did not jump on that opportunity. I recognize others do not agree with this and view this approach as reducing the 'worth' of their collections. Once upon a time, some of us recorded the Deads shows. One of my best 'pulls' was from the Dead's original Red Rocks jaunt in 1978 (now available here). Many of you already had the audience tape that I provided of those shows, prior to the official versions release. I shared those with all who wanted them. Some tapers would not share the best or finest from their collections. There were even tapers who would place a 'pause' within a critical part of a song to imprint their 'mark' on that Dead show they were sending out to others. Controlling the music or 'marking my territory' is not part of what I wanted to participate in. As we Deadheads do, we can disagree, bicker, ask for more, argue on the best era, line up, show, tour, etc. But from where I sit, I believe what Jerry said regarding the music (and I am paraphrasing here) "we played it, we are done with it". They were fine with the taping, their music 'model' had the music industry shaking their heads, and now look at how much live music is recorded and shared. And you don't even have to mail the tapes to someone else! ;o) I am thankful for another bite at the musical apple. And not at double the price from Ebay. Sure I wish all the bells and whistles were included, but since I can get upgrades on these shows, despite being awol from Deadnet over the weekend, I really have no complaints and appreciate this added chance to get the upgrade. And I will be forever grateful for the help of all who have provided access to the aural record of this transportive band of hooligans (including tapers, many kind persons on this site, etc.). "every time that wheel goes round, bound to cover just a little more groud..." you know the rest. Teachers open the door, but you have to enter by yourself.
February 21, 2017 - 4:20am

#3932

FloridaBobalooToo

Joined:
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KeithFan2112

Thanks brother........
February 21, 2017 - 3:45am

#3933

Oxford 88

Joined:
April 28, 2012

Undershot

This one is on the bean counters... They knew the demand was double that of any other box they have released (I don't recall any previous releases of more than 7500-maybe the Spring 90 sets) They blew it wicked bad. Obviously, the selected shows and nearly three decades of hype brought this all to a fine froth. For me, the size and price of the box is a big factor. I didn't go for the steamer trunk due to the size and cost. I did purchase TATS, but I am not really digging the whole thing it is too much to digest and doesn't fit on a shelf. 3-5 show boxes hit a sweet spot for me. What did they know and when did they know it? I don't think they called an emergency meeting yesterday morning to hastily pull together the All Music package. The model already existed with E72. It would be really interesting to know how many All Music E72's have sold as well as the individual shows from the run.(Am I correct in remembering that both E72's were priced the same?) When this box went haywire on Thursday, the framework was already built for releasing more music. I don't have a problem with this-the more the merrier. I got caught up in Thursday's sausage grind and eventually got a confirmation on early Friday morning. I camped for plenty of concert tickets only to have additional shows added. Was I pissed at the band for meeting demand? Was I pissed at the people who walked into the record store and scooped up tickets without any hassle? For those who are pissed about paying a little more for a little less (but the music is still all there) I look at it like an early subscription with free shipping or a bonus disc, etc. Early buyers are getting a book and groovier packaging. Big deal. Spread this set of shows far and wide! Let the Dew cry out from every mountaintop! And of course, eat more ice cream!
February 21, 2017 - 1:40am

#3934

Kjohnduff1

Joined:
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Downloads of past releases

I agree with Antonjo I wish that they would at least release download versions of past sets like FW69. I made the mistake of pausing on that one at the time. Since I only really care about the music, I would have gladly paid for a download. A very kind person burned the whole set for me but I would have bought it from GDM. They have it sitting there all remastered and ready to go. I don't think that collectors would be upset at all about a download reissue. I don't get that one...
February 21, 2017 - 1:02am

#3935

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
June 4, 2007

The Monetary Value Paradigm

It is and always should be about the music. I will never understand those who would hope and/or want to deny others from the opportunity to acquire this music in order to maximize the resale value of their own purchase.
February 21, 2017 - 12:41am

#3936

mhammond12

Joined:
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But...

...listen to the music play"
February 21, 2017 - 12:37am

#3937

mhammond12

Joined:
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But...

You say the value of the limited numbered collectible version took a hit when the umlimited unnumbered version was announced, but you also say the collector shopping for this will insist on a numbered item. Not sure that adds up.
February 20, 2017 - 11:28pm

#3938

KeithFan2112

Joined:
August 6, 2014

What It Is

After reading the posts and having a personal Ebay experience, I think I understand why this All Music Edition has some people pissed off. I wasn't around for Dave's Picks until 2015. In my scramble to backfill my collection, I ended up with two copies of DaP 1, aka "Hokey Religions & Ancient Weapons". I sold one on Ebay, and was met with a furious response from the buyer who demanded a refund, stating that the CD set was "not as advertised" Why? Because it wasn't a numbered copy. Everything else looked and was manufactured the same as every other copy, just no number. Apparently these numbers are important to some folks, I gathered, because it makes their set a "Collectible". So I assume anyone who just bought a numbered copy of the Cornell box set (or several), just felt they lost future value in their own personal CD set(s). I believe they feel Rhino just worked both sides of the street, after advertising the set as their typical limited edition release, then turning around in 3 days and watering down the value of the limited edition by basically re-releasing an unlimited amount more. Whether you bought 1 copy for yourself, or 20 for resale purposes, your investment just lost equity. And here's the kicker for those who are really interested in the "collectible" value - this All Music Edition was completely planned. It's being framed like an oh gee, we didnt anticipate the demand, but who wouldnt anticipate 15K easily sold for these particular shows, and when has Rhino ever responded this quickly and decisively with a plan as they did with this All Music Edition? It was literally ready to go as soon as the 15K sold out - it was planned. So, as someone mentioned, the whole Limited Edition marketing schema IS a sales device to not only get people to buy quickly, but to make them feel they bought something MORE than the music (which they have been in every other Limited Edition product thus far, except E72 - but there are big differences there); the Limited Edition / numbered copy marketing schema is an unstated, assumed promise to the buyer, that they are investing in a Collectible that will apprecite over time. To some extent, Warner has devalued the original 15K, for casual Collectors and resellers alike. I think there will be backlash from the resellers. I think they may have just double crossed a large portion of the market. Or maybe not, what do I know - I have a psychology degree and a job as a software engineer (not to mention a PhD in E72). Personally, I paid a lot of money for my Dead collection, so I am not interested in seeing anything reissued or published as an All Music Edition - I would like it to maintain its worth, and maybe appreciate some. I'm not complaining about what I paid, because after all, I'm the moron who didn't buy FW 1969 Complete box set, on the grounds that I didn't need multiple versions of the same songs, when the best of the set was being released on a 3 disc compilation. What a maroon! FloridaBobaloo - I gotta say - I don't recall you ever being mean spirited.
February 20, 2017 - 10:44pm

#3939

snafu

Joined:
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Favorite Dark Star

Was july 13 1984. Not necessarily because of the music but it was the encore at the Greek and they had a killer vid screen of photos that had just come back from God knows what space flight. It was phenominal
February 20, 2017 - 10:28pm

#3940

FloridaBobalooToo

Joined:
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sticking to my guns

when I resurrected FloridaBobaloo, I pledged NOT to be nasty or say mean things, therefore I won't.Wishing ALL you Heads Happy Listening............

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May 1977: Get Shown The Light (All Music Edition)

WHAT'S INSIDE:
Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
Four folios housed in a slipcase
5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
50-page book of liners and photographs
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

The "All Music" Edition

At the same price as the original.

nice marketing

Good way to sell CDs quick.

Grate

Idea!!! Remember it's ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC!!!!! However with that being said I'd rather see this with a lower price like say $99.98.

Wish they had preserved ...

... the lively ongoing discussion.

I found it:

Still here: http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-get-shown-light-box

Good move

I think the music only edition is a good move. For me, it's the music that matters and not the "stuff". This makes the music available to those who want it. This is too good to be confined within 15K boxes. The price? Well, I can only assume that there was a high price to pay to even get the tapes.

rhino- kiss my $uckin ass-all music edition

i'll be returning my "numbered" box set because whiners like west and his CAP posts- f all you freakin cry babys-ruin it for everyone-and dont say this from all the whiners complaining that didnt get in-rhino had this planned the whole time-i can't believe this crap-i'm done buying this crap-been spending just like you west-since the 90's-but when i miss out do i complain i like need a sucker in my mouth-and "my heart goes out to you" screw all you hippy $ussys-

Download editions

Probably the mp3 edition will be $99.00 (or less), the lossless FLAC and other formats will be more expensive, but less expensive than the original (sold out) and this larger run ALL MUSIC EDITION.

Lame Bullshit!!!

They announced previously that they were releasing this as in digital formats this May, FLAC/mp3, so at the moment, this is a big fuck you to the people who pay attention and enjoy collectables. I'll be canceling my order. People who missed out could have gotten this digitally and burnt their discs. They had 3+ days to make their order. I'm done with the Grateful Dead's definition of limited edition. Bullshit!

just canceled my # box set

-there west-now there is one more # box set for you to get.JUST GOT OFF PHONE-you little whiny baby.i could see you when your all crying-i cant get through-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa - go ahead and blast THIS as not being kind- GO F ALL YOU $USSY MOTHER F

What I am looking forward to the most...

I am highly sympathetic to those who missed out on the GSTL box. Obviously nobody predicted the Internet would break and cause some Deadicated Heads to be denied. Hope this never happens again, and hope those in need get remedied. When I first read about the release there were sparks and shocks. First shock was Cornell is being released. Second was a box with these three other upper deck shows. This was enough to make me feel faint and in need of a seat. I poked though further and was pumped that the 8th was a stand alone. Whaaaat...wait..vinyl? Sparks now flying for me now, a warm feeling hugged me like the sunshine did today and yesterday in the Northeast. Like others I spent more time than necessary making my order. Started thinking about this May 8th, the day I predict our presents will arrive; and I too drifted off into la la land. But, before all this goes down I will down load the FLAC GSTL box on the 5th. Sure the physical CD box will be nice when it arrives. Oh heavens to Betsy the vinyl sure will spin a haze of sonic brilliance. But nothing, nothing will sound as good as that high res download. This is by far and away what I am looking forward to the most. With these sparks, I will bast off...and might not return to Earth to check my mailbox on the 8th. Cheers!

All The music Edition

Excellent, and thank goodness :-)I happened to be utterly skint the last three days. I'd have been happier still with Buffalo as a stand alone release, but this is good; it's on my Christmas list :-) Nice to see the scalpers take a cold bath too :-) Also, i hope Betty is getting her cut; if not, we ought to start a pledge page and make a contribution for each remastered Betty board we buy ... just a thought. yeehaaa!

Limited addition?

Why are some people so mad that this got released as an all music addition? This all music addition does not detract from the awesome limited edition box set you have. The all music addition is the same price and doesn't come with all the extras. If you only bought the limited addition so that you can resell it for a bunch of extra cash (see the definition of a scalper), I can see how this probably lowers the resell value to only $250 instead of $300+. Boo-hoo. I got the limited box and am happy that I did. I'm also happy that anyone who missed out can now purchase this and hear the music. To be pissed about this is selfish and immature.

Liars

Well I guess it had to happen eventually. A promise broken just start make fillmore and stop kidding yourself make it indistinguishable from the original. People who wanted it had plenty of time to buy it and when it comes out buy the downloads after all "it's about the music" not owning cds in the beautiful slipcase. I was lied to Rhino

im selfish and immature

-f u dusty- im not interested in scamming others for 300 dollars-its about-sometimes there aint seat for all- -and if this is -all about the music- sell it for less than 100- screw you dusty

dusty

you probably cried all the time as baby-stick something in your mouth

Why be upset?

It's disappointing to see this "all music edition" after spending two days frantically trying to order this box. Otherwise, I'm happy that everyone is in.

Scalper

Screw you it has nothing to do with scalping anymore than owning a 641/2 Mustang and enjoying the uniqueness make you a scalper

Its About the Music

Guys, chill out. It is about the music not the box. I usually order most everything released, but for those things I missed, I'd be happy to take an "All Music Edition" (although it should be cheaper Rhino). Anyway, why should people who weren't on the scene with money in hand when Fillmore West was released have to pony up hundreds on eBay or be denied these shows? And BTW who are these people who buy up limited edition GD sets and sell them for a profit? no deadhead I know would do that.

would you pay 150 if

the all music edition came out 1st? this is the biggest ass scam- i was so looking foward to this-come home-read west and others are whining like babys because they didnt take opp when they had-then come back a little later-there is all music edition-F U ALL

I really do not mind the all

I really do not mind the all music addition, but shouldn't it be cheaper because you are getting less than the limited edition? At least make it $129.99.

Does anger impair grammar and punctuation?

I'm not the one crying here. Take your hate speech and 4th grade writing style elsewhere.

DUSTY

if i kiss your a$$ and write like dylan can i stay?you too stupid to see the scam-go back to your tv-

GDP/Rhino misleading and deceptive practices

This has nothing to do with scalping. I've never sold a single object on ebay or craigslist. It has to do with GDP and Rhino being misleading and deceptive in their practices and their news release. They knew this was going to sell out quickly and stated so in the newsletter. The newsletter went on to say that that FLACs and ALACs would be available in May. Anyone who wanted to listen to all of these shows could have. It is a cash grab and a finger in the face of those who pay attention and knew about this for months. If they had in turn, including this other box set in their announcement via newsletter and other outlets, it would be a completely different story. This isn't about GDP making people happy. It's about making themGDP/Rhino more money. I'm out. I already cancelled my "limited edition" set, as well as my 7" vinyl subscription. I'll get these off the internet for free and get the last laugh. I've given thGPD tens of thousands of dollars over my lifetime, and my line has been drawn. Money grubbing band, not money grubbing collectors, lets get that right.

Good Decision

This was a good decision. The demand for the box was clearly underestimated. I am glad I got through and got mine ordered on day 1 (after 7.5 hours. But since they missed the mark on demand a lot, putting this out, minus the book, for the same price, was a really good thing to do. I am glad for everyone who wasn't able to get it right away, but now will get what matters - the music.

overwhelming demand??!!!!!!!!!

no shit rhino what did you expect- YOU EXPECTED EXACTLY THIS- i only bought one box set- you stupid too jack

scalpers are pissed

Please cancel your orders and allow a worthy Deadhead to claim your box. So sorry your "limited collectible" (i.e. eBay sale) isn't so exclusive anymore. Allowing as many people as possible to have these CDs is only a good thing, and is so much more important than your little tantrums.

More is good

Glad everyone is going to get a chance to get this. People have been waiting for these shows for a long time. I got mine on the first day, but I can understand the frustration of people who got shut out. I understand everyone's anger at the web fiasco and hope this gets fixed and doesn't happen again. I sat there and tried to order for 8 hours before I finally got through. As for the price.....150 bucks barely gets you dinner in New York. I'm glad to get these shows and have no problem with TPTB getting their cut so that they can continue to release shows! We are all pretty spoiled by the wealth of material released. We should be thankful and smile smile smile.

2nd box

Hey jerk straw my 2nd box was bought for a friend who's a little short right now. Bottom line is this Rhino lied you approve sort of like Fox News and Trump.which one are you

No Problem With This...

I really don't have a problem with a music only edition that lacks a number, in fact I welcome it. I've bought every archival release the GD has put out and I have never thought about it as an investment.Glad everyone is going to have a shot at this run of shows in the format they prefer. It's about the music. I happened to get my order in through Rhino after a few struggles that many of us experienced on Thursday. Yes, the box I got will have a number but that is not what it is about imho. I couldn't tell you the numbers of any of the box sets I have, nor do I stare at them as I jam the tunes. Glad they are opening this up so a ton of people can enjoy the music unlike the coveted Fillmore 69 box. The reality is they announced this box set going into a holiday weekend and they are making sure that people aren't going to miss out on this set. We should be enjoying the triumphant return of these Betty Boards to the vault!

Backfired....

....one would figure that when they announced they were making more, everyone would be happy. All I'm reading is spiteful, demeaning comments. Kinda sad. Although I would agree the all music should be priced less. You get no book and no fancy packaging....

THANK YOU GDM!

I was able to order the box during the first night of sale, but it took three hours of frustration.I was able to order the FW69 box back when that came out. And I was able to order Complete E72 when that came out. I check Dead.net too many times each day to be considered mentally healthy, but I don't want to miss anything. I understand that some people are not here so often and can miss major events like these release announcements. Part of me thinks they should "Work harder" at keeping up, but ultimately I can sympathize with them. I am very happy that you went with an All Music Edition plan on this new release. I am glad you did that with CE72 also. I wish you would on FW69 too. These are CORNERSTONE collections of Deadmusic. This music has a legacy of being widely shared. The size of the Deadhead community reflects this history. Sharing the music is the good vibe. Hiding the music is BS. (I do enjoy most 70s Dead more than most 80s Dead, but I want ALL of it SHARED!) This business model of limited editions has made commercially viable the releasing of a vast amount of music. I thank you for that. But, it has also attracted and cultivated a "collector" community in our midst. I wish TPTB could settle on a new business model that isn't so inviting to selfish "collectors". Poetry420: Please Do cancel your order, sir. There are Deadheads that will gladly take your copy off GDM's hands.

Stop the bs

It ain't the music it's the I want something physical. If it was the music you'd just buy the download. No it's become ok for everyone to lie. Trump has taught you well. I wonder what your word is worth if you would so easily encourage another to break theirs. Rhino better give those of us who back them asap each release something to make up for this disgrace. Beware the future Dead/Rhino

If they (Rhino/GD) can make

If they (Rhino/GD) can make an "All Music Edition" of this to help "make sure that everyone who wants the remastered audio from these shows on CD is able to get it." Then Rhino/GD can make "All Music Editions" of the 30 Trips and May '77 boxes too! I want the music that was released on those boxes but was not able to procure the boxes at the time of release. Stop with the BS and if Rhino/GD TRULY means that they want everyone to hear the music then make "All Music Editions" of ALL the boxes!

hey snafu.....

.....so you don't want other cool deadheads to have this music? Why do you want to be "the only one who has it"? When I went to dead shows, we SHARED with each other........I guess you are only happy when others aren't?? I'm real glad others get to have this music and I am not a Trump guy. I do not understand your anger at all.

Just a thought

It seems as thought none the downloads are available for any of the box sets for some time now. I think they are have trouble with and won't be able to make good on this one being available for digital in may.

All music edition

That's what allowed me to get all the Europe '72 CDs. I hesitated on the steamer trunk and then it was gone..... The only people who should be upset about this are scalpers.

Cool with Me....

But this business model perhaps relies on the secondary market to move the initial product. I'm all for all music for all, But does that mean the "All Music" Editions of FW69 or even Dave's Picks Volumes 1-4 with bonus disc are on the way? If so, my credit card is ready. If not, so be it. I skipped work Thursday to score one of these (when we broke the Internet.). Release all the old stuff Rhino/Warner! The precedent is set! Peace and out! I just want the music anyway!!!!!

Limited Editions

Just my take, and this will hopefully not offend anyone. But I purchased the initial box, and couldn't be happier there's an All Music Edition. Honestly I was bummed when it sold out so quick, because this is a Holy Grail type of release. To me, this is like showing up to a sold out concert, then they decide to open up the grandstands and- the more the merrier. I'm the last person who wants anyone to miss out on the music. In a perfect world, limited editions wouldn't even exist- of course, just my opinion.

I have zero sympathy for scalpers

They take their risks, they live with them. Glad to see that this is being made more widely available. Good for everyone. So getting the booklet is a little bonus for jumping in early, and the price stays the same, so what? This stuff is really well made, takes a lot of effort to make, and should not be compared to a free bootleg or lower quality archive recording because it "used to be free". Even that was a gift from the band to allow it before it was ever a common practice. Without a sustainable model like this, we would never have access to such great quality recordings of these shows. While it's a bit disconcerting to always have to guess whether they will release more beyond the initial limited batches, it's their decision to make. Other than FW 69 complete, which very clearly stated it would not be extended beyond the first batch, I would think they can decide on whatever basis they want to whether to create re-issues. It worked for E72 and Dick's Picks, and I hope they will do more of Dave's Picks and Road Trips too eventually, through Real Gone or whomever, in reasonable quantities that work well for both them and the eager buyers out there.

Buffalo, mastered

Making hard-copy cd's available to everyone was the right move. These three nights are on the Mount Rushmore of shows. If there wouldn't be a full fledged revolt, they would probably reissue FW. Thank you. I can't wait to hear what Jeffrey's done with Betty's recordings.

Really

I am ashamed of this petty crap , wah I didn't get one so all that did suck , the dead suck , the vault sucks . and omg there making money. This whiney crap is exactly what is wrong with this country . I want it so I have a right to it . No you don't ! This is a business 1st and foremost , there job is to make money . Thinking they did . There will be a download just get that . Be glad this music is even available . I know dozens of you will blast me , don't care . Yes I got one , matter of fact I got 2 , one to play, one for when that one wears out someday . I have worn out many a record and cd , so I cover the bases . Just quit crying its annoying , if I hadn't gotten a copy I would of been oh well better luck next time . Been listening to this band since 71 . still don't have a right to anything.

15,000

I am confused as to how having an All Music Edition somehow diminishes the Limited Edition box set. It is still limited and collectible in its own right for those that like to collect things. I think the All Music Edition makes it accessible to people who really wanted physical media of all 4 shows of this release, but were not fortunate enough to get through, to get it without having to pay an extra premium.

Still a good buy.

Still, it is a good buy. You can get the Peter Conners book very cheap, if you know where to look. I'm glad this all music edition is available.

deja vu all over again

A first world problem, this. Which goes without saying, but I typed it anyway. "All Music Edition should be cheaper" No, it shouldn't. Those that scrambled to order before it sold out ~ an urgency created by the "limited edition" format ~ should not be penalized by paying more than they needed to, as they might've been quite content to opt for the cheaper edition had it been offered from the get-go. "the only people who should have a problem with this are scalpers" First, I don't have a problem with it and I ordered the Full Monty in time. But I don't quite agree ~ a measure of frustration should not be limited to "investors." Consider: * TPTB should really not be blindsided by overwhelming demand for this box, with its modest size vs. musically Herculean stature. The Europe '72 steamer (7200 units, six times as many discs) sold out in a weekend. Could anyone have reasonably assumed 15,000 would cut it for this release? Summer '78 is one thing, but the Cornell '77 run? * The limited quantity created a lot of stress for those trying to order it before it sold out. I had zero problems placing my order, but the issue was real enough for dead.net to issue an apology. * Then, there's just the false advertising factor -- the bad taste of a marketing ploy, whether it truly was or wasn't. Again, you just think the powers should know better by now. Last point said, this isn't nearly as lame-feeling as the Europe '72 announcement of individual show availability was for me. A lot more money was involved for that box, and I indeed felt hoodwinked. Because I would not have sprung for the whole tour had I known in advance. (Am I glad I did? You betcha ~ steamer trunk still might be my favorite box ever.) So I honor the right of the frustrated to feel so. That said, I'm honestly glad they made more in this case. I think it's the better thing to do than not, weighed against the degrees of impact to those offended. p.s. 5/8/77 overrated? Sure, ice cream and The Beatles are overrated, too....

anton

Revolver: Yes.AmeriCone Dream: No.

How does one . . .

. . . wear out a cd? In 30 years of buying those shiny puppies, I've NEVER worn one out.

Ice cream....

Neopolitan - yesMoose tracks - no. I could eat a whole tub of that yummy goodness

All the Drama now included for one low low price

I don't get it - people b!tch when it sells out and b!tch when they add a way to get the music. As someone pointed out, 15,000 is 2.1 million in revenue. So if for instance the July 78 box set sells only 7,500, they have 1 million dollars of unsold inventory on the books. It is a risk to release this, as it (cornell) has been widely commercially available for years as a bootleg of varying quality, but from the same source. Being a limited release is a marketing ploy, but certainly a reasonable one. Once it's sold out they no longer have to stock it, inventory it, let it get shop worn etc. With the number of releases possible from the betty boards coming in the next many years (5 a year is still 20 years) it is reasonable to limit how long each release is available. If you want just cornell, there was no limit. If you wanted the ancillary shows, they set a limit. Once they found demand exceeded the supply, they have a stripped down set to satisfy those people for whom a digital download was somehow unacceptable Is having a number on the box and a copy of the $15 book enough to drive you mad when you don't get it ? I have to admit I like the idea of a special box, but if it was between nothing and all music version, I'd complain a bit about the price being the same, but still buy it. Does it diminish the "value" of the numbered ones ? A bit yes, as the demand is being satisfied by making the unnumbered ones available. Is that a big issue - no - unless you were planning on cashing it in as an investment like beanie babies or a Franklin Mint limited edition plate "Cheeses of Nazareth" Is the investment value the primary interest in all this ? If so, you may wish to look on eBay for the princess Di beanie to put your 401k funds in, as dead cds seem to unreliable vehicles.

Kat

AmeriCone Dream: well, you know my answerAmerican Dream: meh, but the Crosby tunes are solid Vguy, Neapolitan: yeah, but Neapolitan Dynamite: even better (Cherry Garcia instead of strawberry) strawberry: Haagen Dazs or bust Kate, Haagen Daz strawberry: if you ever again entertain AmeriCone

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