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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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    Friendly question: You say there are 2824 left. I presume you mean copies of this CD left to purchase. How do you know? Is there a site somewhere that tells you how many are available?
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    You sure do have a lot of time on your hands.....You must be retired. I’m confident that you spend that time listening to GOGD.
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    Episode 2824 Sesame Street Plot Elmo and the Beanstalk Air date February 28, 1991 Season Season 22 (1990-1991) Sponsors G, L, 6 COLD OPEN Elmo (And The Beanstalk) announces he will be climbing a beanstalk today, as well as taking to some string beans (who make sure they're mentioned). SCENE 1 Elmo welcomes the viewer and Mike begins to read the story of "Jack and the Beanstalk," but Elmo tells more of the story than Mike does. After Mike finishes "reading", Elmo runs off to find some magic beans, so he can climb a beanstalk and get some "gooolllden eggs." SCENE 2 Big Bird helps Elmo plant the beans he got from Gina so he can climb to the sky and get 6 golden eggs (and split the spoils with Mike and Gina). Big Bird puts the beans in the pot and waters them and they both move away to let it grow, but nothing happens. Since it's a cloudy day, the sun won't shine on the beans to make them grow. Elmo is disappointed, until Big Bird suggests he imagine climbing a beanstalk. SCENE 2 cont'd Elmo imagines the beanstalk fully grown and begins to climb it. SCENE 2 cont'd Meanwhile, in reality, Big Bird watches Elmo moving his arms and chanting "Climb" in a daze and hopes he has enough energy to make it to the top. SCENE 3 Still imagining, Elmo continues to climb and wishes there were an easier way to get to the top. He gets an idea he could fly... SCENE 3 cont'd Elmo begins to soar through the sky singing "Elmo Can Fly" with two birds, who tell him the stalk's too high to fly up. SCENE 3 cont'd Back on the street, Big Bird continues watching Elmo climb and wonders if he ever considered flying up the stalk. SCENE 4 Oscar discovers Elmo panting in front of his can and tells him to go away, but he doesn't respond. He blares his (broken) horn, rattles his noisemaker and plays his bongos, but with no success. Once he learns from Big Bird what he's doing, he hangs up some signs that forbid imagination and beanstalks, but they do nothing too. Oscar gives up, while Elmo snickers to the camera. SCENE 5 Elmo is still "climbing". Big Bird is sure he's near the top by now. SCENE 5 cont'd Elmo runs into some string beans, who tell him he's close to the top. Once he is gone, one bean wonders if they should have mentioned the giant. Imagination Rain SCENE 6 Elmo finally makes it to the top of the stalk, where a sleeping giant (Mike) lays. He finds the chicken and and has her lay one more egg so that her carton will have the six "gooolllden eggs" he needs. The chicken's squawking awakes the giant. Elmo flees without learning the giant wanted to say "Hi." SCENE 6 cont'd Elmo slides down the side of the crate, which Big Bird interprets as him sliding down the beanstalk. SCENE 7 In Hooper's Store, Elmo shares his story with everyone. He then orders some string beans with "gooolllden eggs". SCENE 7 cont'd Oscar's upset to see the pot is still there, so he tries imagining the sponsors in its place, with no luck.
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    I'm glad to see this box getting some love looks like only a few thousand left. I's nice when boxes don't sellout right away in case you don't have the funds, gives you time to save up some dough. Hoping Spectrum 89 is in the works for this years release.
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    I just purchased the high-resolution downloads, and checked the files. Although they occupy larger containers, there is little to no information beyond 44.1 kHz sampling frequency. In other words, you don't seem to get anything more for the extra $10.00. This is a bit frustrating, because the possibility of getting HD files was what made me purchase this set in the first place.
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    That's odd... Regardless, the music in this release is wonderful - multi-track precision! So glad these '89 shows are finally getting out. If you haven't heard these shows, you'll love 'em.
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    THE ECLIPSE IN 2983 BC By LUDOVIC MCLELLAN MANN. (Written 1930). A few days ago Mr. J. C. McCrindle, Shawlands, took me to see a flat sandstone rock on Cleuch Farm, now Cathcart Castle golf course, Whitecraigs. He:had discovered cut upon the stone certain markings known to the antiquary as “cups and rings”. These had also been noticed by Mr. A. W. Barclay. The designs have been delicately pecked out and are unusually shallow. They are well preserved, as the surface has until now been protected by a growth of vegetation. The writer was struck at once by the similarity of the design to that on a carved boulder found some time ago in the Bluebell Wood, Langside, about 2¾ miles distant. Closer examination showed that the designs, although not identical, had many points in common, and that in fact they record the same event. Cupmarks on the Langside and Cleuch stones The meaning of such designs has long been an outstanding problem of archaeology. For some years the writer has been engaged on its solution, and the markings can now be interpreted according to principles recovered after the closest examination of full-sized drawings of some hundreds of examples from this country and from abroad. The cupped stones are registers made by prehistoric astronomers who reckoned time by hours, days, years, and long cycles of years. The happening of eclipses punctuated their cycles. A cup-marked stone furnishes the index marks of invisible geometric dials or clock faces. The markings, indicating certain days, hours, and years, usually take the form of small cup-like hollows. To read the markings we must first find the centre of the scheme, and then restore the framework of the dials and the position of their “clock hands”. Each long cycle checks the reading given by the others. They involve the periodicities of Sun, Moon, nodes, and five planets. The Langside and Cleuch stones commemorate chiefly – one and the same event – an eclipse of the Sun seen in Glasgow district in the year 2983 BC, at three o’clock in the afternoon of the sixth day after the spring equinox (March 27 in our modern reckoning). One must dismiss the conventional notion that the pre-Roman Briton was a barbarian. The stones referred to bear records made 50 centuries ago by men who were by no means savage, but were possessed of considerable scientific knowledge. For many thousands of years even before that remote time, similar carvings were being made in all parts of the habitable world. The language used by the sculptor was one of measures and geometry. It was a.medium of expression which overstepped the limitations of race, speech,, time, and space. To detail the method of reading the Langside stone and its corroborative witness, the Cleuch stone, is here impossible, but certain features may be outlined. It should be noted that the date 2983 BC March 27 was obtained from the Langside stone before it was possible to ascertain from independent computors that an eclipse had actually been seen in Glasgow on that date. This is nearly 2000 years before the earliest published eclipse recorded by the Viennese astronomer Oppolzer, and the visibility of the eclipse had to be specially computed in Berlin, after the data had been supplied from Glasgow.}
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The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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....I was so much into the GD in the late '80's, that I really didn't pay attention to anything else. But yeah. Big metalhead prior....and still. To some extent.
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I started getting high right around the time FZ's Freak Out! was released. My friends were smoking pot and I wouldn't indulge because it was illegal. A week later I was offered acid and since it was legal, I had no qualms about dropping it. After that the whole moral/ethical dilemma over legality and illegality of mind expansion kind of just melted away.
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Sort of same only different. There was a music store in my small suburban town. The kind with instruments and a few records. Why this old couple brought in a copy of Freak Out I'll never know but I looked at it for 6 months when John turned me onto the freshly released Absolutely Free. Well that was it. I went down and bought FO that day and bought every release on the 1st day for the next 25 years. As for weed I was opposet I didn't like booze for a family reason so I was smoking pot at 13 and booze much later after talking to God a number of time. Nice memories
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I never got into alcohol. I had a good friend who was the kindest gentlest guy you could ever meet. I would pick up his girlfriend at her house so that they could go out together. Her parents hated him because he had been kicked out of school for his hair and was attending continuation and I was getting straight A's in advanced courses. I was still at the local high school and just pushing the dress code as far as it could bend. Spent quite a lot of time in Vice Principal Grabowski's office. At that time the rules were that hair couldn't be one length or touch the collar or the ears. Their justification was it distracted the other students. Now what was I talking about? Oh, yeah. Lee liked to drink beer. When I came to take Pam back home later in the evening after he had had a six pack or so he would accuse Pam and me of having an affair behind his back and want to fight me. With me being a stone pacifist it never came to blows. And the next day he'd apologize profusely. After observing firsthand the radical changes he went through I never had a desire to drink. Anyway, being loud, obnoxious and doing stupid things I'd regret the next day came naturally to me. I never talked to God, but did have a very colorful conversation with a flower bed walking home after seeing Big Brother at Speedway Meadow on psilocybin . A piece of sage advice: Never break open an amylnitrate popper when you're halfway up a ladder.
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Not that I care but you can't cherry pick quotes as black and white proof about people's opinions. I mean if we did that we should post about Billy's quito from his book saying how he thought the buck stopped with Keith in his opinion. I believe it's in the same few pages as his comments about Brent. Dont care enough to find it, maybe someone does. But I like it all, some more than others oh well, truly to me the real issue is the return of Mickey. One drummer is what this music and that drummer is the kid.
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Nice post. You summed it up about as accurately as can be, and sifted out the negativity of the LoveJerrys, and the overexuberance of the Spacebrothers. This release is another day at the office for the 89 Dead. The set lists feature a lot of down tempo or B songs. Agree with Space, the TOG is damn fine. I can't say the same for Minglewood. While it's one of the better 80s versions, to rank it BOAT is detached fanboy talk. You need only go to Dave's 23 in Eugene, or Cornell, or even 4/29/71.
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Awesome story my friend. It was able to place me right back into that groovy decade, complete with anti-long locks mandates and big collars. I can definitely see why you got turned off from the sauce so early on; I am glad that your buddy was able to see the forest for the trees and apologize each time afterwards. It's almost like it could be a period-comic book or after school special. But, this line gave me the best chuckle of all; you are quite the humble man: "Anyway, being loud, obnoxious and doing stupid things I'd regret the next day came naturally to me." Sometimes additives aren't unnecessary! In fine contrast to your conversation with the talkative flower bed. Happy Days, All! Sixtus
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Great stuff Jeff! Thanks for posting. Love the Square covers!!!
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John Hartford ? Doug Sahm ? Not being frivolous here!
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Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.
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Genius does not necessarily refer to brain capacity and high IQ.I'd say Duke Ellington and Gershwin could be considered 20th century musical geniuses. Could make a case for Ray Charles too.
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I think Jim is right on this, in that "masterful" or some other term that means "very, very good" is more appropriately used for most examples than "genius." For me an actual "Genius" is someone who simply sees things differently, whose innate behaviors (playing music in this case) are unique to them. The things that seem unique to the listener are obvious/natural to the Genius. Many people can have moments of genius--it comes up in their solo or songwriting, etc. A big G Genius just approaches everything with a different perspective from the beginning, and takes them to a different place. I feel pretty strongly that Phil is a genius. No one else is like him, his bass is unlike any other player. His beginning perspective was certainly influenced by his modern classical background and not really knowing how to play bass when he joined the band.
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I wonder if that had a lot to do with the fact his voice was shot and he stopped singing. That in and of itself had to have an affect on his spirit. Like you said... It's just life. None of us are the same at 40 that we were at 20 (even though we may try to convince ourselves we are).... I like Jerry's comment on Dave's Pick 24, before Sugar Magnolia... paraphrasing... we don't even play like that anymore, man, you know, you know, all things must pass and all that sh!t .... transcendent...
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1-Louis Armstrong. Introduced the concept of a jazz combo and the virtuoso soloist.2-Duke Ellington. Synthesized blues, gospel, classical music, and jazz into a unique and instantly recognizable sound. 3-Charlie Parker. Shredded contemporary standards of what could be played by a jazz musician. 4-Frank Sinatra. Transformed the American pop song into an art form. His sense of timing and dynamics is pure genius. Try singing along with him, he will frustrate you no end. Also invented the "concept album". 5-Ray Charles. Synthesized gospel and blues into a whole new genre, rhythm and blues. 6-Miles Davis. Was responsible for creating about 4 or 5 jazz genres, single-handedly. 7-James Brown. Created Funk. 8-Elvis Presley. Took black music, bluegrass, and gospel and added pure sex into a unique blend that changed the world and opened the door for The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. Basically created rock and roll. 9-Bob Dylan. Blended a literary and intellectual stew into folk music and rock and roll that is still evolving to this day. 10-Frank Zappa. Incorporated doo-wop, Stockhausen, Cage, Stravinsky, into a unique blend that also added a savage attack on contemporary social norms combined with a virtuoso guitar. 11-Grateful Dead 1967-69. Every possible musical influence you could name transformed by LSD into a musical stew that had never been heard before.
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Long Beach Arena 11.15.87. Pretty good show. Missed the first two songs gawking in the lot though. Oh well. Get Some!!https://archive.org/details/gd87-11-15.sbd.nawrocki.4750.sbefail.shnf/g… ....by this time, I was seriously getting IT. edit.....anyone who likes and appreciates the Grateful Dead is a genius in my book....
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Forgot Bill Monroe. Created bluegrass. Sorry.
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I would have to add Brian Wilson, and Ray Davies
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How about Robert Johnson? His recordings from the 1930s took the blues to a higher plane. He took styles and lyrics used by earlier bluesman, added his own unique skill and talent and created a body of work that still sounds astounding today. His voice, and guitar style-particularly when he played slide-is in a class of its own. His blues also rocked more than earlier bluesmens did, too, so in a sense he was playing the first rock and roll. I think he was the first one that utilised that bass figure used on so many recordings by Chuck Berry, and then by literally thousands of others. Without Robert Johnson, no Muddy Waters. Without Muddy Waters, no Rolling Stones.
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Dilly Dilly! Listening to this fine release and my perceived "enthusiasm emitting from the stage" had me think of that recent Bud Light ad. It's amazing how good the multitrack source sounds on CD. I do agree with most of the comments about the performance posted here - the positive and the negative. I am not a big fan of angry Brent, but besides those two tracks (FFM,LRR), I am loving his contribution on keys and organ and his contribution on Dear Mr Fantasy. Loving the tones from Tiger. Very good release, maybe not a top tier show, but thank you for releasing it. This bodes well for other multitrack shows from this tour I hope. Dilly Dilly Mr Lemueix, Mr Norman and Mr Glasser!
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Making a list of "Musical Geniuses" is by definition exclusionary. There is a ton of artists that are "Honorable Mentions" in my mind that didn't make my final cut. Make your own list with comments to make your case. It's not that easy, taking the term "Musical Genius" seriously, but it's great fun. Robert Johnson and Ray Davies are the perfect example.
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Congrats. This is the most specific, yet oddball anniversary I've encountered in the past four days. I Like it. And will listen. Sixtus
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Just putting this out here, but I just received the RFK box and was surprised that the book is missing.I emailed customer service and waiting for the reply,but has anyone else experienced this. Thanks
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....it's not odd at all! 30th of 3rd. 3's abound. Ever wonder why they primarily played 3 day runs? The answer is right in front of you. (Pretty cool Morning Dew that night in Long Beach. Broke my Dew cherry with aplomb!).......and no Dragon. I got my booklet. Sorry for the lack of help. That's the 1st I've heard of that snafu.
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Great playing on this night. and a wonderful 16 minute Eyes Of The World. inspired playing. jerry shines on this one. everyone got a great show that night if they were open to it. I hope this one gets released. it made one of my 90's shows that should be released list. <3 this show
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Just the booklet should be an easy fix.. try PM'ing MaryE here. She's four stars above an 800 number (and she love's Dalmatians, how cool). Sixtus.. be careful repeating VGuy's Pagan chants and number combinations out loud. I think I've lost close family members that way. Without a trace, no explanation. Miss you mom.
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to which I would add Joni Mitchell. Took the folk idiom, merged it with jazz vocalist phrasing, pushed pop melody and harmony as far as they could stretch while still maintaining some semblance of song structure, and made the whole thing burn and soar. She's been imitated about 1000 times, but never duplicated. This RFK box is suh-WEEEET! What glorious sound and inspired playing. The '78 box, the '77 box, the Eugene show, the show from 8/25/72, and now THIS?! Thank you, Dave and Rhino.
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Frank wpuld be very upset with you. Leaving off Edgar Varese without him who knows what direction etc FZ would've taken
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The present day composer refuses to die.
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Ahh Joni. She always falls through the cracks doesn't she? Sought out and befriended Mingus at the end. Truly a genius in the sense that genius is not constricted by genres or labels but still produces art that speaks to us. Joni Mitchell. That's a good call.
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Just one man's opinion but I think people are mistaking high level talent with genius. The names put out here are without question superior in musical talent and some may even approach the level of genius (thinking of Ray Charles) but for the most part don't make the cut. By definition the number geniuses are few and far between. An example that comes to mind is the Dead. No question Jerry was steeped in and greatly talented in all forms of Americana from bluegrass to rock to country he was tops at playing many styles and was able to write quality songs. That doesn't make him a genius but as to developing a new style of music not really. Phil excellent on the bass but ditto. Micky on percussion probably exceeds almost all in playing and of equal importance composing. I have loved the Dead for 50 years and these stated opinions in no way detract my respect for them as musicians. I will go back to my original choice of Frank Zappa. As a musician a composer an original thinker he has no equal in the field in the mid to late 20th century. Miles Davis might just be his equal. Again I come back to by its nature there are very few. Add to that Frank's total disregard for people's opinion in 2017 many have a hard time getting past his total disregard for political corectness his view that musicians were simply tools to work with and a lot of people don't like him in the least. That kinda fits into my previous point that geniuses are often not nice people. Many people want their icons to be great people me I want them to be great ar what they do. No question there are musical geniuses I haven't mentioned but my point that there are very few by simple nature can't seriously be challenged.
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david byrne....danny elfman
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Hunter S. Thompson ;O)
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If you're referring to HST as a genius I'm not sure I'd put him there but there is no question he along with Keroac developed a new style of writing...stream of consciousness. Not to mention he was hilarious
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Collins dictionary: "A genius is a highly talented, creative, or intelligent person." "great mental capacity and inventive ability; esp., great and original creative ability in some art, science, etc." Royal Academy of Spanish Language dictionary: "Extraordinary mental capacity to create or invent new or admirable things." "A Person endowed with genius" So I think it depends, if I consider a person is intelligent, creative, and he/she does new things, then it's genius. It's all relative. For one person somebody would be a genius, for another wouldn't be. It's a bit like the 70's vs 80's Dead debate. :-) Meanwhile waiting for DaP 24 and RFK box here.
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.....both fine writers. But James Joyce and Virginia Woolf beat them to stream of consciousness writing by many years. Both Joyce and Woolf are in the argument for "genius" in their field. Personally, I'd go with Shakespeare. BIG genius. No one has been his equal in the last 400+ years. Just putting that out there.
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well , that depends on my mood MOZART BEETHOVEN BACH GRATEFUL DEAD KEITH EMERSON BARTOK STRAVISNSKY SCHOSTAKOVITCH SCHUBERT GRATEFUL DEAD LISZT JOHN COLTRANE SANTANA ....... MY PIANO TEACHER MY GUITAR TEACHER
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FYI - picked up a second-hand Mom at a Garage Sale the other day cheap, could pass her along for almost no profit. She's good with the dishes! Musical genius'? My musical brother says there are two types of musicians, refiners and definers. I would think definers would be genius'.
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Now that we have not one but two dictionary definitions of "Genius" courtesy of Luis, I realise that I fit the definitions on all counts. Maybe tomorrow I'll be made ruler of the cosmos, otherwise I may have to just ask the boss for a pay rise.
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My wife is a huge reader (and not the supermarket shit), her vote for a genius might be David Foster Wallace, writer of Infinite Jest.
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I agree with Shakespeare and many of the mentioned by Purpleerik69. I would add Cervantes and some more. The guitar and piano teachers, I don't know because they probably are not well known. Think of Van Gogh. But to me for an artist to be socially recognized as a genius there must be a consensus, and with contemporary artists we probably haven't enough perspective. But it's all right, we're all working at it. About the RFK box, to be honest, I bought it three days ago. I don't know why, But when Lovejerry writes a post telling how bad was Brent and 80's GD, I go and buy the release immediately. Thanks, Lovejerry!!!
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Great topic. I would put Pynchon at the top of my list of living authors. The dude (at least we think he may be a dude) is on a whole different level. I'm also a big fan of Joyce, Dostoyevsky, Borges, Ishiguro and Danielewski. There's so much great stuff out there.
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Today is Give to the Max Day in Minnesota, where citizens are encouraged to financially support MN charities, non-profits, art organizations, and civil-rights defenders. So here is my annual plea for everyone here to please stop right now and give some money to Live Music Archive and the Rex Foundation, non-profit and charitable organizations near and dear to Deadheads. https://archive.org/donate/ http://www.rexfoundation.org/support-rex/ I'll also mention the Southern Poverty Law Center, to whom an anonymous donor recently gave Jerry's Wolf guitar for auction. Someone else stepped forward to match the auction price, raising $3.2MM for the SPLC. That makes it Dead-related, so I'm mentioning it here. https://donate.splcenter.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=463 Be kind.
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Bill WattersonGary Larson Gahan Wilson!!!
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I totally agree that sometimes we need to be kind (miself first). Simonrob, why not? Maybe we all have a bit of genius inside. If others saw it, it would be fine.
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There are so many great poets who are worth discovering-the list is endless. But to me, the most complete artist was William Blake. His poetry was truly original, transcendental and opposed to oppression in all forms. He also illustrated many of his poems-and his art work is inspiring in its own right. But the best way to approach him, to my way of thinking is to read the illustrated books. That way you can read the poem accompanied by the illustration. The most approachable are "Songs of Innocence and Of Experience"-buy a copy of that and it will stay with you forever. The most complex are the epic poems-"Jerusalem"- which you can get in beautiful editions-but it will take you forever to understand it. It has me anyway. He also actually printed these books himself, too.
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Blake is great, the prints are detailed and unique. Trying to figure him out, is like trying to guess what Jerry was thinking 10 minutes into a Dark Star. The Blake fourfold path of thought, as described by Robert Anton Wilson, "IT is A, IT is B, IT is both A & B, IT is neither A nor B, and therefore something new". Of course IT being what ever you are thinking about, as it is a process not an actual object.
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HeHeHe. That got your attention. Genius is like pornography. I can't define it but I recognize it when I see it.
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Since it was brought up.
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