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Recorded by - Bill WolfAssistant Engineer- Fred Bradfield Mixing - Bear and Phil Lesh at Burbank Studios Stereo Synthesis - Bear, John Neal with thanks to Dr. Haas Chief engineer - John Neal Engineers - Steve Brimmer, Frank Jones, Andy McDonald, Jim Walker Mastering - Bear, Bob McCloud Photography - Andy Leonard, Mary Ann Mayer, Cadillac Ron Grateful Dead logo - Robert D. Thomas Lettering - Rick Griffin Art Coordination - Mary Ann Mayer Record Live: October 16-20, 1974 at Winterland, San Francisco, CA Notes One of the most criticised Dead albums. Both song selection and sound quality of the original release failed to impress a large number of heads, by some it was given the alternative title 'Steal Your Money'. The theory behind the song selection has been explained as a desire to present an album of songs rather than jams and the need to avoid songs that had already appeared on live albums. Various excuses have been given over the years for the original sound quality. In an interview Garcia said; None of us liked it. I'm sure even Phil and Owsley didn't like it that much ... I think part of it was that we were not working, and we didn't have anything else to deliver. The sound quality is greatly improved on the CD reissue. The songs on Steal Your Face are thought to come from the following shows; Casey Jones - October 17, 1974 Ship Of Fools, Beat It On Down The Line, Big River and Sugaree - October 18, 1974 Mississippi Half Step, Black Throated Wind, U.S. Blues and El Paso - October 19, 1974 Promised Land, Cold Rain And Snow, Around And Around, Stella Blue and It Must Have Been The Roses - October 20, 1974 Reissues

...Not the Shrine Auditorium but the Shrine Exposition Hall which was adjacent to the Auditorium...had many a wonderful evening there...

You are right-maybe I should read it! I am sorry that my post looked as though I was dismissing it as a document. It was just such an unexpected thing to come across on here. I am not keen on reading at much depth online, so if I did read it, it would probably be in book form.

It's not my favorite album, but I don't hate it. I have the original 76 vinyl LP, the 89 CD that sounds greatly improved, and now the 2017 180g vinyl LP reissue that really sounds excellent. I thought is was very good in 1976, it wasn't a real GD show but a collection of songs recorded live. SYF doesn't stand up to Europe '72, Skullfuck, or Live/Dead, in my opinion.

It's not my favorite album, but I don't hate it. I have the original 76 vinyl LP, the 89 CD that sounds greatly improved, and now the 2017 180g vinyl LP reissue that really sounds excellent. I thought is was very good in 1976, it wasn't a real GD show but a collection of songs recorded live. SYF doesn't stand up to Europe '72, Skullfuck, or Live/Dead, in my opinion.

It's not my favorite album, but I don't hate it. I have the original 76 vinyl LP, the 89 CD that sounds greatly improved, and now the 2017 180g vinyl LP reissue that really sounds excellent. I thought is was very good in 1976, it wasn't a real GD show but a collection of songs recorded live. SYF doesn't stand up to Europe '72, Skullfuck, or Live/Dead, in my opinion.

Third Week in the Chelsea is definitely a highlight of that album, but I think Pretty As You Feel has to be my absolute favorite Jefferson Airplane song. Feel So Good and Wild Turkey from Bark are pretty good too, but something about Pretty As You Feel just clicks in my brain in a really pleasant way.

It's been 10 years since I registered with this version of dead.net.Back then, it seemed fun and for the most part it still is! Sometime, probably during Dave's Picks 11 or 12 discussion/comments pages, I had noticed folks talking back to each other via these posts. This is community, in my opinion. And for the most part it is beautiful. Only a few times here and there, things get ugly with "taboo" topics of politics, religion, and some other stuff. Recently we were *invaded* by troll or trolls, and hopefully our wunnerful moderator marye and management got rid of these boring and harmful trolls. But what ever happened to DeadNetCentral? (DNC) Is this still active? I never was a part of DNC, it seemed too constrained for me, as I was a part of rec.music.gdead for many years, until it was invaded trolls and the rise of Facebook to the general public and other stuff scattered folks to other, newer, more modern social media. However r.m.g.d. still exists, but is nowhere is it like it was only a few years ago. #

mmmm, yes Charlie3 those tune titles sound familiar. "3rd week in Chelsea" was just the one that came first to mind. It might be time for a good re-listen to "Bark" for old times sake.

The first couple tracks on Bark - When the Earth Moves Again & Feel So Good - are great on the live album Thirty Seconds Over Winterland. I think Bark is kind of like a Dead studio album. It doesn't have the classic sound of Surrealistic Pillow, or rise to the level of the later Kantner/Slick project Blows Against the Empire, but the songs from that period translate well live. If the only Stella Blue you ever heard was the Wake of the Flood version, you'd probably think it was kind of boring.

and this is one of the best. This bonus CD was distributed with Road Trips, Vol. 4, No. 3 to subscribers to the Road Trips series. The bonus disc has music from the December 6, 1973 show in Cleveland. • Greatest Story Ever Told • China Cat Sunflower • I Know You Rider • Dark Star • Eyes Of The World

It's funny you mentioned Pinball Wizard. When I was watching Moon videos yesterday, I also found this one. It's the isolated drum track of the studio version of Pinball Wizard. The second one is Won't Get Fooled Again. That's awesome you got to see the real Who. LedDed. I threw in a little Zep for you. It sounds close to the album take, but it's missing my favorite fill, so it's got to be an outtake. Pinball Wizard https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tL7uVSRnOms Won't Get Fooled Again https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NJH8DmPfVmU Fool In The Rain https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RddCksr-XhY

The only drummer I compare to John Henry Bonham is Charlie Watts, due to feel. They are the engine that drives their band. Ginger Baker, Neil Peart, Phil Rudd (for the pocket backbeat). Get well soon. \m/

I´m disapointet about the quality in Dave´s Picks Series. The song material is good but the quality of sound is partly bad. I think some songs are patched with audience recordings (i.e. in Daves vol. 20 and 27). And thats not what we are usesd to hear on dead.net music (and I pay for it)! I have nearly all volumes of the Dick´s Picks series and they are okay. I suggest they should release only one or two volumes of Daves series per year and select only concerts in good quality! Otherwise I can hear the songs on archive.org.

Point proved, I think. I never even knew there were bonus discs with Road Trips. The bonus disc for Vol. 4 No.3 actually looks better than the main three discs-which, coincidentally, I am half way through listening to.

On the subject of great drummers, Ian Paice with Deep Purple was and indeed still is, amazing. His introduction to "Fireball", immediately following the whooshing sound of that backwardly recorded fan, is one of the best things in life. Or at least heavy rock. All of "Made in Japan", as has been said on here before, is incendiary.

There were bonus discs issued with the Road Trips series, starting with Vol. 1, No. 1 (late 2007) up until Vol. 3, No. 3 (mid 2010) so there were 11 bonus discs. After that it was announced that there would be one bonus disc per year (like the current Dave's Picks bonus discs). The 2011 bonus disc came with Road Trips Vol. 4, No. 3 but as the series finished with Vol. 4, No. 5 at the end of 2011 there were no more Road Trips bonus discs.

Paicey is outstanding, underrated, not often discussed in the same breath as the greats. His drums sound amazing. He gets in the rock drumming hall of fame for the beginning of "Woman From Tokyo," alone. And he hits that again in the middle of "Knocking At Your Back Door." Goosebumps the first time I heard that and I still love it. I'm seeing Purple/Priest next month. I would imagine Purple will open, because who could follow Priest? But in my heart of hearts Deep Purple ranks above Judas Priest in the entirety of their classic catalogue. \m/

First live band I ever saw, 7 years old. They opened for KISS in'79 at the Spectrum. I was so confused because I had no concept of an opening band, these dudes didn't have make up or any songs I recognized, and it was too damn loud to ask any questions....

Thanks for posting Moonie's Pin Ball Wizard isolated drum track & the isolated drum for Won't Get Fooled Again. Amazing!

Excellent!

not that i doubted you, but it got me thinking of all the GD bonus disks over the years and i came up with this list of the ones i have. some pretty important recordings hidden on these CDs. Beyond Description Bonus CD 2004 A bonus disc that was included with copies of Beyond Description that were pre-ordered from the Grateful Dead Store. The tracks are from the following sources; • Weather Report Suite (live 10/17/74) • Blues For Allah > Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey > Drums > Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey > Blues For Allah (live 3/23/75) • Showboat (8/12/75 rehearsal) • Shakedown Street (live 8/13/79) • Far From Me (live 8/31/80) • Estimated Prophet (live 10/10/80) Rockin' The Rhein bonus CD: Academy Of Music 2004 A bonus CD that was distributed by Grateful Dead Records with with pre-ordered copies of the Rockin' The Rhein release. The material from the bonus CD was recorded live at the Academy of Music shows in March, 1972 The tracks are from the following shows; • Playing In The Band - March 22, 1972 • Sugar Magnolia - March 22, 1972 • Caution - March 22, 1972 • Jam - March 22, 1972 • Uncle John's Band - March 22, 1972 • Dark Star - March 23, 1972 Fillmore West 1969 Bonus Disc: 2005 A bonus CD that was distributed with pre-ordered copies of the 10 CD complete Fillmore West 1969 recordings box set and the 3 CD compilation of music from the Fillmore West 1969 shows. The music on the bonus CD is previously unreleased live recordings from shows at the Carousel Ballroom/Fillmore West between 1968 and 1970. • Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) - June 14, 1968 (late show) • He Was A Friend Of Mine - June 8, 1969 • China Cat Sunflower - June 8, 1969 • New Potato Caboose - June 8, 1969 • China Cat Sunflower - February 7, 1970 • I Know You Rider - February 7, 1970 • High Time - February 7, 1970 Spirit of '76 2006 A bonus CD of live music from 1976. This CD was distributed with copies of the Live At Cow Palace: New Years Eve 1976 release pre-ordered from the online Grateful Dead store. The tracks on this bonus CD are from the following Grateful Dead shows; • The Music Never Stopped and Crazy Fingers - June 9, 1976, Boston • Let It Grow > Might As Well - October 2, 1976, Cincinnati • Playing In The Band > Supplication > Playing In The Band - September 24, 1976, Williamsburg • Scarlet Begonias - September 30, 1976, Columbus Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 1: Fall 1979 2007 A two CD release of live music from the Grateful Dead tour in the Fall of 1979. A third bonus CD was included with early copies of this release. This is the first in a proposed series of Road Trips releases which will concentrate on specific tours or series of shows. The tracks on the bonus CD are from the following shows • China Cat Sunflower - Oct 31, 1979, Uniondale, NY • I Know You Rider - Oct 31, 1979, Uniondale, NY • Althea - Oct 31, 1979, Uniondale, NY • Lost Sailor - Nov 8, 1979, Landover, MD • Saint Of Circumstance - Nov 8, 1979, Landover, MD • Jam (1) - Nov 8, 1979, Landover, MD • Estimated Prophet - Nov 9, 1979, Buffalo, NY • He's Gone - Nov 9, 1979, Buffalo, NY • Jam (2) - Nov 9, 1979, Buffalo, NY A bonus download track was made available to anyone pre-ordering Road Trips Vol 1 Number 1; A single song download offered as a thank you to anyone who pre-ordered Road Trips Vol. 1 Number 1. The bonus song was from the Spectrum, Philadelphia show on November 6, 1979. • Jack-A-Roe (Traditional) Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 2: October 1977 2008 The tracks on the bonus CD are from the following shows; • Scarlet Begonias - Oct 16, 1977, Baton Rouge, LA • Fire On the Mountain - Oct 16, 1977, Baton Rouge, LA • Estimated Prophet - Oct 16, 1977, Baton Rouge, LA • Loser - Oct 14, 1977, Houston, TX • Sunrise - Oct 11, 1977, Norman, OK • Iko Iko - Oct 7, 1977, Albuquerque, NM • The Wheel - Oct 7, 1977, Albuquerque, NM • Wharf Rat - Oct 7, 1977, Albuquerque, NM • Sugar Magnolia - Oct 7, 1977, Albuquerque, NM Winterland 1973: The Complete Recordings 2008 A bonus CD of music from the Cincinnati Gardens show of December 4, 1973 was included with early copies of the box set. • China Cat Sunflower • I Know You Rider • Truckin' • Stella Blue • Eyes Of The World • Space • Sugar Magnolia • Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad • Casey Jones Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 3: Summer 1971 2008 A third bonus CD, with music from the shows on July 31, August 4 and August 6, 1971, was included with early copies of this release. • Bertha - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Mr. Charlie - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Cumberland Blues - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Brokedown Palace - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Hard To Handle - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Sing Me Back Home - July 31, 1971, New Haven • Big Boss Man - July 31, 1971, New Haven • Not Fade Away> - August 4, 1971, San Pedro • Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad - August 4, 1971, San Pedro • Turn On Your Lovelight - August 4, 1971, San Pedro Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 4: Winterland “From Egypt With Love". 1978 2008 A third bonus CD, with music from the shows on October 17 and 21, 1978, was included with early copies of this release. • Bertha - October 21, 1978, Winterland • Good Lovin - October 21, 1978, Winterland • Estimated Prophet - October 21, 1978, Winterland • He's Gone - October 21, 1978, Winterland • If I Had The World To Give - October 17, 1978, Winterland • Around and Around - October 17, 1978, Winterland Rocking The Cradle: Egypt 1978 Sept 2008 A bonus CD of additional music from the Egypt shows was distributed with pre-ordered copies of Rocking The Cradle. • Bertha - September 16, 1978 • Good Lovin' - September 16, 1978 • El Paso - September 16, 1978 • Ramble On Rose - September 16, 1978 • Estimated Prophet - September 15, 1978 • Eyes Of The World - September 15, 1978 • Terrapin Station - September 15, 1978 • Sugar Magnolia - September 15, 1978 Road Trips: Vol 2, Number 1: Madison Square Garden: September 1990 2008 A third bonus CD, with more music from the same run of shows, was included with early copies of this release. • Mississippi Half Step - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Picasso Moon - MSG, September 18, 1990 • To Lay Me Down - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Eyes of The World - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Estimated Prophet - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Foolish Heart - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Jam - MSG, September 18, 1990 Road Trips: Vol 2, Number 2: February 14, 1968, Carousel Ballroom 2009 A third bonus CD, with music from Grateful Dead shows in January 1968, was included with early copies of this release. • Viola Lee Blues - 1/23/68, Seattle • Good Morning Little Schoolgirl - 1/20/68, Eureka • New Potato Caboose - 1/30/68, Eugene • Dark Star> - 1/23/68, Seattle • China Cat Sunflower> - 1/23/68, Seattle • The Eleven - 1/23/68, Seattle • Turn On Your Lovelight - 1/23/68, Seattle Road Trips: Vol 2, Number 3: June 1974: Wall of Sound 2009 A third bonus CD, with additional music from the same shows, was included with early copies of this release. • Morning Dew - June 18, 1974 • Around and Around - June 18, 1974 • Deal - June 16, 1974 • Greatest Story Ever Told - June 16, 1974 • Truckin'> - June 16, 1974 • Nobody's Jam> - June 16, 1974 • Wharf Rat - June 16, 1974 • GDTRFB - June 16, 1974 • Sugar Magnolia - June 18, 1974 Road Trips Vol. 2, No. 4: Cal Expo 1993 2009 A third bonus CD, with additional music from the same shows, was included with early copies of this release. • Picasso Moon> - May 27, 1993 • Fire On The Mountain - May 27, 1993 • Cassidy> - May 27, 1993 • Uncle John's Band> - May 27, 1993 • Cassidy - May 27, 1993 • Gloria - May 27, 1993 • Broken Arrow - May 26, 1993 • Ramble On Rose - May 26, 1993 • Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again- May 26, 1993 Winterland June 1977: The Complete Recordings 2009 A bonus CD of music from the Chicago show of May 12, 1977 was included with early copies of the box set. • Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo> • Dancing In The Street • Terrapin Station> • Playing In The Band> • Drums> • Not Fade Away> • Comes A Time> • Playing In The Band Road Trips: Vol 3, Number 1: Oakland, December 28, 1979 2009 A third bonus CD, with music from the December 30, 1979 show, was included with early copies of this release. • New Minglewood Blues • Candyman • Ramble On Rose • Lazy Lightning > • Supplication • Scarlet Begonias > • Fire On The Mountain > • Let It Grow • Truckin' > • Wharf Rat Road Trips: Vol 3, Number 2: Austin, November 15, 1971 2010 A third bonus CD, with music from the November 14, 1971 show in Fort Worth, was included with early copies of this release. • China Cat Sunflower> • I Know You Rider • Sugaree • Truckin' > • Drums > • The Other One > • Me And My Uncle > • The Other One > • Wharf Rat > • Sugar Magnolia Road Trips: Vol 3, Number 3: Fillmore East, 5/15/70 2010 A fourth bonus CD, with more music from 5/15/70 and from the 5/14/70 show at Meramec College, was included with early copies of this release. • Friend Of The Devil • Candyman • Cumberland Blues • Cold Jordan • Easy Wind • Attics Of My Life • Beat It On Down The Line • Next Time You See Me * from 5/14/70, Meramec Community College, Kirkwood • New Speedway Boogie > * • Nobody's Fault But Mine Jam > * • New Speedway Boogie * • St. Stephen * • Not Fade Away * • Turn On Your Lovelight * Road Trips: 2011 2011 This bonus CD was distributed with Road Trips, Vol. 4, No. 3 to subscribers to the Road Trips series from the December 6, 1973 show in Cleveland. • Greatest Story Ever Told • China Cat Sunflower • I Know You Rider • Dark Star • Eyes Of The World Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2012 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2012 releases in the Dave's Picks series. Music from the July 29, 1974 show at the Capital Centre, Landover. • Sugaree • Weather Report Suite: Prelude Part 1 Let It Grow • He's Gone • Truckin' • Nobody's Fault but Mine • The Other One • Spanish Jam • Wharf Rat Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2013 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2013 releases in the Dave's Picks series. Music from the December 21, 1969 show at the Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco. • Smokestack Lightning • New Speedway Boogie • Dire Wolf • Mason’s Children • China Cat Sunflower • I Know You Rider • Black Peter • Good Lovin' • Drums • The Other One • Cumberland Blues Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2014 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2014 releases in the Dave's Picks series. This bonus disc was shipped with Dave's Picks Volume 10. It comprises music from the December 11, 1969 show at the Thelma, Los Angeles. • Dark Star • Saint Stephen • The Eleven • Cumberland Blues • That's It for the Other One Cryptical Envelopment Drums The Other One Cryptical Envelopment • Cosmic Charlie Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2015 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2015 releases in the Dave's Picks series. This bonus disc was shipped with Dave's Picks Volume 14. It comprises music from the March 21 and March 27, 1972 shows at the Academy Of Music in New York. March 27, 1972: • Bertha • Brown-Eyed Women • China Cat Sunflower > • I Know You Rider • Cumberland Blues March 21, 1972: • Truckin' > • Drums > • The Other One > • Wharf Rat Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2016 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2016 releases in the Dave's Picks series. This bonus disc was shipped with Dave's Picks Volume 18. It comprises music from the July 16, 1976 show at the Orpheum Theatre, San Francisco. • Playing in the Band > • Cosmic Charlie • Spanish Jam > • Drums > • The Wheel > • Playing in the Band • High Time • Sugar Magnolia Dave's Picks 2017 bonus disc December 6, 1971 additional tracks: "Truckin'" – 9:57 "Loser" – 7:31 "Mr. Charlie" (McKernan, Hunter) – 4:23 "Jack Straw" – 5:14 "China Cat Sunflower" – 4:56 "I Know You Rider" – 5:04 "Tennessee Jed" – 7:25 "Mexicali Blues" – 3:46 "Black Peter" – 9:38 "Casey Jones" – 6:01 Dave's Picks 2018 bonus disc December 14, 1971 Hill Auditorium selections: "Jack Straw" – 5:07 "Tennessee Jed" – 7:23 "Black Peter" – 9:07 "Playing in the Band" – 7:03 "Casey Jones" – 6:13 "Mexicali Blues" – 3:34 "Cryptical Envelopment" > – 1:55 "Drums" > – 3:38 "The Other One" > – 18:32 "Wharf Rat" – 9:07 "Sugar Magnolia" – 7:20

There are 2 more bonus discs that were released with DVDs, not CDs. I have one but not the other. I am not at home right now so I am not in a position to find what they are. More info later...

Think it came with the Closing of Winterland DVD. I didn’t subscribe to Road Trips because I only wanted complete, or nearly complete, releases. I bought those full show releases. I eventually bought WOS 74 and 10-21,22-78. Looks like I should have preordered those since the bonus discs included more of the shows.

Closing of Winterland and Rockin' the Rhein bonus discs. What about the Searching for the Sound bonus discs.. I think I have them. Are they mostly interviews with some music might I perhaps not have them? ahh.. finally a long post worth reading. Bonus Discs. I finally got through enough listens of Dave's Picks 27 to comment. First.. 1983. A transitional year, especially for Jerry. He had begun his weight gain, the changes in his voice were especially noticeable and it seemed the band was migrating towards shows and moments with a harder edge. Next.. the recordings were different and not for the better. To my ears, '83 might just be the year where the least care was given to soundboard recordings. They were recorded on cassette masters for one. Also, Healy seemed to be experimenting with his Ultra Matrix mixes where he was pumping varying amounts of the audience mic into the mix. This seemed especially true for the outdoor shows that year. Some (many) sound like audience recordings while some of the indoor shows (Morgantown WV comes to mind) have much less of the audience boom mixed in and sound more like traditional soundboards. I think that's why the three official releases from that year were from indoor venues (DiP 6, Hartford 10/14/83, 30 Trips Worcester 10/21/83 and DaP 27 Boise 9/2/83), but this is pure speculation on my part, I wonder what others think. Of the three released thus far, I think Boise sounds the best. I saw the band several times in 1983, I think this sounds more like it sounded being there, the exception being the drums (hollow sounding, not full and vibrant) and the obvious muffled sound that generally comes with these cassette masters. Still.. I believe they made this sound as good it can all things considered. I believe the quality of the recordings, for the most part, improved by '84 and '85. I thought this show had it's moments, the high point to me was the jam in Slipknot! ..but each disc has it's moments and personality. This is pretty typical 1983. Is it the best in the series? Not to me, but I bet there is someone out there that might say yes. It does scratch an itch though and fills a void. To me, this release is stronger than the other two '83 shows released thus far both in sound and performance. Back to the 80's briefly. I find myself listening to more from 68 to 74 than the other years. Still.. at least or twice a year I go on extended tangents into the great beyond that are very satisfying for a host of reasons. Sometimes the diversity and difference in style and the occasional bombastic crescendo moves me. Recovering from an illness I took my first road bike ride in over a month Friday and I hit Augusta 84 and Riverbend 85 for some extra juice. It did the trick, I made it up the mountain and even peddled on for a few extra miles (you have to keep going through the end of the jamming). Believe it if you need it, we should not be surprised Dave picked this show and slid it into the 3rd slot. Even if I don't reach for it every third time you road trip (E72 anyone) it is a decent representation of what the band sounded like in '83.

This disc 1 seems to be stuck in my player. Damn thing has been on autoplay for the past couple of weeks straight. Healthy, happy, Hawaii Jerry playing with such inspiration. Such an amazing show, full of beauty and emotion. Right in the feels, man. Get you some. Now!

There was a bonus CD "New Year's Eve at Winterland" that came with the 2DVD set "The closing of Winterland" for customers who purchased the DVD (but not the 4CD set) from Grateful Dead Merchandising. The CD comprised; Easy Wind (12/31/70) Jam> (12/31/71) Black Peter (12/31/71) Playing in the Band (12/31/72) Lazy Lightning> (12/31/77) Supplication (12/31/77) Sugar Magnolia> (12/31/77) Scarlet Begonias> (12/31/77) Fire on the Mountain (12/31/77) There was a bonus CD "Dead Ahead Bonus songs" that was distributed with pre-ordered copies of the 2005 (expanded) DVD release of "Dead Ahead". The 5 tracks on the CD are the 5 bonus tracks that were included on the expanded DVD. The CD comprised; Heaven Help The Fool Shakedown Street Samson and Delilah He's Gone Truckin' all from the 10/30/80 show. I think these two bonus discs together with Kayak Guy's list (see below) covers all the bonus discs. If we have missed any then post it!

there is also a 2 song bonus CD that came with Postcards from the Hanging. a bonus DVD that came with the Grateful Dead Deluxe Scrapbook.... and not to forget all those bonus tracks on the Golden Road Box era CDs that are not being rereleased on the new 50th Anniversary editions. http://deaddisc.com/index.html a great cut and paste resource for people that like to make lists of stuff to look for on ebay ;)

....is if I owned all those bonus discs, I could buy a new car.

Bonus discs will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no bonus discs. I think this must also apply to new cars.

All The Years Combine: The DVD CollectionGrateful Dead Initial release : April 2012 Shout Factory! A 14 DVD box set that brings together 12 previously released DVDs/videos. One of the DVDs includes previously unreleased footage of six songs from the 1987 to 1991 period and an interview with David Lemieux. The previously released items included in the set are; The Grateful Dead Movie - the 2 DVD expanded and remastered version The Closing of Winterland - Winterland Ballroom, San Francisco, CA, December 31, 1978 Dead Ahead - Radio City Music Hall, New York, NY, October 1980 So Far - music and animation including live and rehearsals footage (first DVD release) Backstage Pass - a six song, 35 minute collage of music from different periods Ticket To New Years - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA, December 31, 1987 Downhill From Here - Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI, July 17, 1989 Truckin' Up To Buffalo - Rich Stadium, Orchard Park, NY, on July 4, 1989 View From The Vault - Three Rivers Stadium, Pittsburgh, PA on July 8, 1990 View From The Vault II - RFK Stadium on June 14, 1991 plus July 12, 1990 View From The Vault III - Shoreline on June 16, 1990 and October 3, 1987 View From The Vault IV - Oakland Stadium, July 24, 1987, and Anaheim Stadium, July 26, 1987 The previously unreleased songs are: China Cat Sunflower - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View I Know You Rider - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View Man Smart, Woman Smarter - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View Friend Of The Devil - July 2, 1989, Sullivan Stadium, Foxboro Hey Pocky Way - July 22, 1990, The World Amphitheatre, Tinley Park Shakedown Street - June 22, 1991, Soldier Field, Chicago

Speaking of bonus discs, I was fortunate to have been able to get most of them when I ordered early. The Road Trip series has so many as you all know, which when I ordered from Dead.net I did get the bonus discs. Unfortunately I passed on some RT releases and trying to get these releases I missed now with the bonus discs is pricey. Real Gone Music's reissues are likely not going to contain the bonus discs. I could be wrong but the 11/21/73 show originally came with the bonus disc of 12/6/73 with that monster Dark Star. The Real Gone reissue did not have this. It may have been because that would have made it a 4 disc set so they opted out. That may not be right, but I am holding out hope that the 2 disc releases will actually be reissued with the bonus from Real Gone. There are a few I got to have. That 12/6/73 bonus disc comes to mind because it generally goes for about $150 (at the lowest) just by itself. Since Real Gone is reissuing the last RTs first, I will have to wait and see. They are on the 69 Big Rock Pow Wow shows. Then it is Penn State/ Cornell 1980. Since these are both three discs without bonuses I guess I wont really know until they get to the first 2 disc reissue in this sequence (I cant recall what that one is). Another bonus disc that is highly priced is the Beyond Description disc. I have seen that at $250. Yet the Closing of Winterland disc usually sells at $50-$75. Sometimes the Academy of Music bonus disc that came DaP 14 can be snagged in this same price range. I dont think that disc is as good as the one from Rockin the Rhein which I do have fortunately.

So I really do like RT series which initially I was overly critical of it back when it started. I was wrong as there are some great shows/music contained in those releases. But hey of course it would be, right? Still I have to say though that the bonus discs are kind of essential to many of the 2 disc releases, at least for me. For example, the bonus disc from each of the first 2 RT releases contains tracks that when combined with the other discs complete sets from 2 shows. The Oct 1977 release with the bonus disc gives the entire 2nd set sans encore of 10/16/77. The Fall of 79 release with bonus disc gives the entire 2nd set sans encore of 11/9/79. In weird bit of sychronisity, both of these shows encores were U.S. Blues. Neat.

Speaking of bonus discs...I have a disc that I keep with the Fallout From The Phil Zone CD, it's an interview with Phil Lesh. 30 minutes in duration, very little music all from the CD. I think I got it when I bought the Phil Zone from dead.net, but I'm not sure. ASCD-3392 The artwork on the cardboard sleeve is similar to the Phil Zone 2CD but has INTERVIEW in white lettering in the front. Do you have this one, too?

Interesting looking at those lists of bonus discs. Having said I didn't realise that the Road Trips series had bonus discs, I have had a look at my collection, and....I've actually got most of them. For me, Gratefulhans comment is very true-these discs are so essential to the main release, and looked so similar in their brown cardboard sleeve, that I hadn't actually seen them as bonus discs at all-just a third or fourth disc. I agree also-there is some fantastic music on these releases. The worst thing was the covers. So tightly packed I sometimes needed a knife to cut them out-and then I never returned them-which could be another reason I missed the fact that some are bonus discs-mine are all now in anonymous clear Perspex cases. Thinking of shows that are presented in cut up form-Dicks Picks 31, 4th and 5th and 6th August 1974, is a bit of a chore to get your head round. The music-amazing-but what song comes form what show isn't always that easy to work out. Not for me, anyway!

that is a promotional disk, i guess because it has no music, just interview. Fallout From The Phil Zone Interview Disc 1997 Arista ASCD-3392 Promotional disc released to coincide with the release of Fallout From The Phil Zone.

Sunshine Daydream - Absolutely one of the finest releases. Perhaps my favorite Playin' in the Band... Can't be sure, but it is surely up there near the top! Shout out to Pole-guy! We all know what you were doing 46 years ago today! Rock on, Pole-guy! Peace

I agree Fallout From the Phil Zone interview is a promotional disc, it's a very cool one !! One more not sure if it's promo or bonus, I would guess bonus. I believe this 2-CD set came with the Golden Road Box set. Titled "Grateful Dead Documentary" interviews from 1968. Almost positive it was released with this massive studio album box set. I never did get the Beyond Description box set, although person I know who has since passed, they had it and enjoyed the heck out of it, and we listened together

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"I'm Pole-guy!""I'm Pole-guy!" so, the DEA placed 6000 hippies atop poles along the Appian Way, making them listen to the Carpenters for three straight days.

interesting, though i think it is a promo disk as there is no unreleased material. AllMusic Review by Lindsay Planer This limited-edition two-disc set was available as a promotional premium in conjunction with the sale of the Golden Road (1965-1973) box set. The offer was extended exclusively through the Grateful Dead's online and mail-order merchandising organization. The days of free-form or underground FM radio are revisited during this two-hour music and interview Grateful Dead Documentary, which originally aired June 8, 1969, on San Francisco's KSAN-FM. The program is co-hosted by Michael Wanger and Vance Frost, who began producing a weekly series of radio documentaries for Stanford University's KZSU-FM in 1968. With the guidance and support of KSAN-FM's program director -- the legendary Tom Donahue -- Wanger and Frost began the six-month process involved in producing this brilliantly executed time capsule of the Grateful Dead's history up through the end of 1968. Not only did the entire band (sans Ronald "Pigpen" McKernan) contribute by revealing an artistic sensitivity rarely captured in their print interviews, they are also open to discussing their immediate artistic concerns regarding their music, their record company, and most tellingly, each other as musicians. The mutual admiration extends into their immediate circle of psychedelic Bay Area contemporaries as well. Interviewees include John Cipollina and David Freiberg from the Quicksilver Messenger Service, as well as Paul Kantner and Spencer Dryden from Jefferson Airplane. Their appreciation is perhaps the most profound, providing unique observations of what appeals to them about the Grateful Dead not only as performers, but most importantly as constituents and friends. Due to the vintage nature of this documentary, vinyl sources were originally all that was available for use. Normally, surface noise and the revealed limitations of the medium on CD would diminish the listening experience. This is the rare exception as the superior mixes used on those initial pressings have yet to be replicated in the digital domain. Notable among these is "The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion)" and the brilliant 45 mix of "Dark Star." Also listen for a special hidden bonus performance.

We travelled to _______________ and ran into Pole Guy outside his families _____________.

it caught my eye there is a hidden track, "Doin' that Rag" i am unsure if this has been previously released or has since , not even sure of the performance date

MDJim's post is obviously an invitation for some Mad Libs. 1) The Oregon State Hospital for the Hilariously Insane 2) compost heap

http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1960s/19690228.html https://archive.org/details/gd1969-02-28.132672.sbd.multi.track.healy-l…

We travelled to Veneta Oregon to confirm reports of an old man dancing naked on the sidewalk and ran into Pole Guy outside his families tanning salon. He was holding one of those big arrow signs while dancing to the Grateful Dead through his bluetooth headphones.

....we traveled to Mars, and ran into Pole Guys families potato farm. If you poop, it will grow. And Pole Guy was definitely on Mars on this day, 46 years ago. It's also my Mom's birthday. Happy Birthday Madre!!

I was listening to the dark star from Veneta yesterday, is this the best one you have ever heard? I also listened to Dick's 36 that has another fantastic dark star offering, I can't decide which is the better, they are both fantastic. To me, this is the song, especially the 1972 versions, (see Europe 72 the complete recordings, for more) that exemplifies the Grateful Dead. I have heard a lot of them, they are all unique and it's hard to get to the best of, but I think these 2 are a tossup as to which is #1. I just can't say which is "better". Anybody got anymore that they think is "the best"? I was also rereading Phil's book and he speaks about this Boise show, not so much the show itself, but the journey to get to Boise. This was the first time he and his new bride, Jill, drove to a show, which then became a common place thing for them. He spoke more about the beautiful vistas and the people then he did about the show. He did remember that there weren't a lot of heads there. Just the usual suspects and a handful or so of local curiosity seekers. During these travels, Phil first realized that there were people following the band around, as they would see the same faces along the road. They would pull up next to them and he would make goofy faces and wave to them. Mostly the looks he got back were that of astonishment, then song requests. That would have been a trip, driving to a dead show and seeing Phil driving along side of you, waving and grinning.

besides the usual answer of "the best one is the one i haven't heard yet".i have to go with Live Dead as it was my first Dark Star and all others are inevitably compared with that one. the years of intimate knowledge, the "special situations" that evoked the need for THAT Dark Star. it still raises the hair on the back of my neck when i hear the last notes of Mountains of the Moon i always thought of as the first notes of Dark Star as it begins. 2/13/70 is a perfect 30 minute Dark Star that sums up the prior years experiments that would be a close 2nd with that 30 minute Other One chaser that finally became revealed on Dick's Picks 4.