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    What's Inside:
    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • daverock
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    And yet

    I've noticed over the last 12 months that I don't tend to play these shows as a part of a unified whole, like I do with ones in other boxes. If I am in the mood for Fall 1971, 1972 or 1973 shows, I seem to listen to those shows in relation to others from the same year, instead of in relation to other shows in this box.
    But each and every shows here is great, however you listen to them.

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    agreed!!

    agreed!!

  • Edhead70
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    well had to post again.. this box set is worth the money. compared to the 73 box set just released this one is better. yeah 73 has some really hot shows that we all know of and have been listening to for decades, but the st louis box set is for the heads. eclectic, lots of variety, gusto and every show is different. Not to be missed!!

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    I agree. Considering the peaks the band scale on a variety of styles of music, during three of their best years that feed into each other, this just might be the most vital box set released yet.

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    Been diving back into these…

    Been diving back into these gems over the last week and I must say the shows really are great. This an incredible box set and one to for sure pick up. There’s a variety of play from rockin dead to full blown interstellar play by the boys.
    I can’t say I like one show more than the next since they are all different and feed all the jonesing one may have for one type of show or another. Not to be missed.

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    Thought I would give some of…

    Thought I would give some of this material a few more listens before the new box makes its arrival at the end of the month. Last night it was 10/17/72 and the show I've been least familiar with. Shame on me. What it lacks in BIG JAM material is more than made up for with consistently solid rhythmic interplay and at up-tempo speeds. Solid and riveting. Remember the 1980s maxell tape ads, with the guy in the east chair getting literally blown away from the power coming from the speakers? That was me for three hours.

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    Really looking forward to getting this sometime, crazy that flippers on eBay are expecting people to buy it for the same price as it is on dead.et store!

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    What a privilege

    To meet and talk properly with Robert Peterson - thanks for sharing that, Billy.
    I looked on Amazon UK last night and couldn't see any books of his poetry - maybe the one you mentioned is only available in the U.S. at the moment. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

    I have just looked again - and Alleys of the Heart is there - but it is really expensive. So definitely - print it on here!

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    Daverock/ Robert Peterson

    My brother met Robert Peterson, on 4/28/85 at St Micheals Alley in Palo Alto. They hung out all day and walked over to the Frost Ampitheatre together to see the Grateful Dead that day. He left my brother an autographed copy of his book Far Away Radios. He wrote inside, "To Paul, no more hard time. " My brother said he was a real nice guy, a real cool person. He also wrote a book called Alleys of the Heart, which I see is for sale on Amazon.

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    Listening to 6/24/73 from the PNE box, I started re-reading Nicholas Meriwether's opening article in the accompanying book. He makes several references to Robert Peterson, best known to me for his collaboration with Phil Lesh on, I think, four songs. Anyway, reading this made me feel that I would like to read more by Peterson, but there doesn't seem to be anything easily available. I think it would be great if Deadnet could publish a collection - something very different from their usual fare of extras! I'd go for a book like that over a tee shirt any day.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

Daverock - I hear what you're saying about Donna's screams in Playing In The Band and I know others agree. My opinion is different. It's Donna and it's good old rock and roll. Scream away Donna!!

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I'll agree on the Donna front, there are a couple of songs I ALWAYS add a Donna scream when I sing. (if you heard that you would beg to have Donna back!)

Me and Mrs DJ have always liked a good Donna scream!

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....is why we are all here. Correct?
I sing as well along with the band. But not so well. And I play a mean air guitar during GSET.
Seattle Center Arena caught a grate one on 6.26.73.
The Dead morphed season to season.

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How did you know I was listening to 4 3 86 today?

Los Lobos - The Neighborhood
GOGD - Seattle 6.26.73
Anthrax - Among The Living
Mercyful Fate - Melissa
Phish comp - Cluster Flies
I love the fact that that Seattle gig is longer than the other four fives combined.
adding another
The Clash - Give 'Em Enough Rope
Music is indeed the Best.

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It's the chip they inserted into your arm when you got vaccinated.. it lets us all know what you are listening to every second of every day.

I'd post the lenk where it shows this, but you can't post linques here anymore.

I also enjoy these shows.. one caveat and I might be wrong on this one... they are not currently applying Plangent Processes to cassette masters. Also, with the exception of 30 trips, they have not used cassette masters with Box Sets.. Since 30 trips was one show for each year, and there were many years where no reel to reel or multi-track recordings existed.. they had to include cassette masters with this box.

Just something to think about.

I think it's more likely to see these shows pop up in Dave's Picks. ..but who knows, they could do a one-off box of this run?? There's always a first for everything.. as for Plangent on Cassettes, I don't know what they have up their sleeves.. but I don't see this as something imminent or just around the corner. Still, tomorrow never knows.

A great run and a pretty magical moment in GD history. Steve Parish spent some time talking about the Alaska trip on his SiriusXM radio program. I can't recall the specifics enough to write much but the stories were a trip. Besides logistically getting all their equipment there which involved going through multiple borders and run-ins with custom officials, they had to hire this ex con truck driver and the drive alone scared the bejesus out of him so he quit right after he arrived in Alaska making everyone scramble to get their eqpt home.. the drive there was apparently frightful and involved a quite unwelcomed run in with local wildlife. If memory serves once they arrived but before the shows they randomly ran into a group of Inuits in a bar or something, again before the shows and invited them.. Bobby might have been a part of this. Anyway.. this women or group of indigenous Alaskan's ended up showing up at the shows.. (might have been just one woman, that seems to be memory. A young, cute, innocent Inuit woman showed up and made it backstage and hung out with the band and crew for the week) needless to say wild times ensued and gave a real artic experience for the band and all involved.. I think Billy K took his girlfriend and perhaps others in their circle whitewater rafting.. and the raft flipped in a hydraulic and 'almost killed him' which is an other interesting sidebar... mountain streams are frigid in Alaska any time of the year. Anyway.. I got a kick out of his tales from this run, sounded hilarious and made me wish I was there.

Good shows, the band was having fun and they are full of energy and that nice 1980 vibe. Plus.. there very well could be a middle aged, half-Inuit dude (or woman) out there right now sporting a tie dye, wearing Birkenstocks and hiding his face behind a beard that looks like a muskrat was surgically attached to his chin and upper lip. We will never now for sure... but the visual adds to the lore of the Baked Alaska adventure.

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For those that have wondered or didn't know.

I've call Third Man Records. From the website it looked like you could get a subscription for 65 a quarter or 240 for the year. It was not clear if that only gave you access to purchase vault releases or if vault releases were included. Well vault releases ARE included. Apparently 4 vault releases a year. You can sign up for a quarter and then cancel.

I mainly looking because they are offering the latest Bob Dylan (#16) as a 4 lp set (with no duplicates from the Sony 2 lp set). So basically I'm getting the 4 lp Dylan set for 65 bucks. I probably will not cancel and let it auto renew at least once to see what the next vault release will be. But 65 bucks for the collection seemed A-OK to me.

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I hope that they release two shows from 1969 for Dave's #39. As much as I would like a big box set from 1969, deadnet will probably never release one, I feel that it might not be a big seller. Hopefully, they will release a 3 show run from the Avalon one day, I think that would sell.

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Why do you think a big box from 1969 might not be a big seller. All the evidence suggests otherwise. When people list their favorite boxes, the two most common favorites are Fillmore West 1969 and Europe '72. For years after the Fillmore West box sold out, people on here were pleading for it to be reissued. Also plenty of folks on here are asking for the Avalon Ballroom shows and the Ark shows from 1969 to be released as a box. Everything suggests that 1969 is a very popular year, and quite rightly so. Primal Dead was such a great period in the band's history. Certainly I'm up for a big 1969 box. The only problem I can think of is that if they brought out a big box, there might not be many 1969 shows left in the vault. Personally I don't see that as a great problem. I want as many 1969 shows as possible released before I shuffle off.

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I would buy a 1969 box set in a heartbeat, bigger the better. It seems to me that there might be to much repetition for people, but hell , I'm more often wrong then right, so Dave lets have that big 10 show 1969 box set.

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The dp39 show was sent out today. No idea what show we'll be receiving. Lets hope its 8/8/82. IMO the best show the Dead ever did!

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All signs point towards XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (previous comment redacted) {Philadelphia Spectrum (4/26/83)}, my Stealie Ouija Board told me so. . A hot one.

But a fall 69 or a Frost 82 would be most welcomed for Dave's Picks 40.

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As long as nobody asked - I have concluded that the size of the box set is more like the Giant Stadium or Get Shown The Light box sets rather than Pacific Northwest. The phrase in the description is "the collection comes in a slipcase."
Those who are concerned about spaces on their shelves can breath easy.

Carry On!!

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It looked for a while as though these shows were going to be released on vinyl on consecutive RSD's. It would be great if they could put out 3/1/69 at least.
I would think the next Dave's would be a late period show-that's 1979 onwards-and then maybe go out with a bang for the 4th of the year with...1969. Or 1974, which would sit nicely on top of the box.

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Both sound great to me. We all dosed at that 10/9/82 show, we really got high. The Frost is fairly close to my house, it was a great place to see the Dead.

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Did all subscribers to the current round of DaP 2021 receive an e-mail from the above captioned service in the last day or so, asking if there were any questions regarding your order, and is there anything else we can address for you, like some five star hotel service? How proactive!

This must be what having the AMEX Platinum Bond 007 Edition ©️™️ account feels like…

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Artwork vs space on the shelf. I know where I fall on the issue

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I would love a good 1969 Box Set. I think the key to a successful '69 box would be a lot of song variety and great recordings. There is no lack of either, so I think it can be done. As you mentioned Billy, repetition can be an issue for 1969. I think the Fillmore West Box set is the exception to that precept for a couple of reasons: for one thing, the multitrack sound quality is a huge plus for that set; another thing it had going for it is that it was the source material for most of Live Dead, which carries a lot of weight in Deadville; also, as repetitive as it was from a set list standpoint, much of the repetition came from Dark Star, The Other One, and other improv-laden jammy things - so I guess you could say much of the repetition was in name only.

I believe there is plenty of great sounding source material for say, a 6 show box set. Of all the Dark Stars, I am least familiar with unreleased versions from '68 - '69. I know 8/30 is great (aka "Vguy's Dark Star") as well as 10/25, 11/2, and if I'm thinking of the right one, 12/26 is really good. I'm sure you guys know a lot more.

But that's just the Dark Stars. I guess I started there because that's my personal favorite when it comes to the big jam tunes/medleys, and I kind of feel like at least half the shows in a box set from < '74 should be DS shows.

Other than that, there is good set list variety in late Spring and especially once Autumn / Winter hits in the latter months of '69. Maybe get a good show or two from those April Arkansas shows everyone loves (I need to listen to these).

Then toward the end of the year, there are some Uncle John's Band Jams, The Main Ten, and various jams. The Boston Tea Party shows at the end of December have some great set list diversity. 12/31/69 has an extended Mason's Children, a big Alligator jam, several rarely played tunes toward the end. If there are a couple of other shows akin to Dick's Picks 16 (11/8/69), there's a recipe for a '69 box set. And for this box - I'd get back to doing a bonus disc and put some great stuff in there from incomplete shows (the Woodstock Dark Star is pretty good IMHO).

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Sorry, jk, and a lame jk at that .

I too would love to know "the mystery pick"

Any day now
Any day now
It will be released

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Never thought I'd comment, but I'm in the process of de-cluttering my house, which means winnowing down my possessions to just CDs, books and some ratty furniture. Oh yeah, plus the camping gear, stereo(s), inflatable Alpacka packrafts, blah blah blah.

So I long ago put the six shows from PNW on my chrono-arranged shelf that highlights Jimi, Roy Buchanan, ABB and, of course, the mother of all recorded bands, the GD. And the PNW box itself -- despite its excellent and apropos artwork -- probably has to go. As in, heave ho.

Having praised TPTB's efforts to honor the music with creative packaging, I'm now going minimalist (except for ~5,000 CDs, a thousand or so books and two packrafts, three paddles, one PFD, three tents, five sleeping bags, etc etc).

Back to the packaging... why not go with compactness, as most of us take the CDs out for shelving? Cut costs, size, etc. Changing my tune a bit here.

While out and about today I came upon a cyclist lying on the pavement. He had slammed into a suddenly-opened car door. Not a horrific sight, but sobering. People had already called 911.

Just take extra "caution", my fellow Deadheads.

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Dave's 39 looks like a winner! Some more love for Brent! Thank you Dave!

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The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA (4/26/83)

Shakedown Street
New Minglewood Blues
They Love Each Other
Me and My Uncle
Mexicali Blues
Maybe You Know How I Feel
West L.A. Fadeaway
My Brother Esau
It Must Have Been the Roses
Let it Grow

Help on the Way
Slipknot!
Franklin's Tower
Man Smart/Woman Smarter
drums
Truckin'
Nobody's Jam
Morning Dew
Throwin' Stones
Not Fade Away

U.S. Blues

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Y’all don’t know how excited I am for this one. My first Dave’s was #27, which I was able to buy for(relatively) cheap a year or so after it was released. ‘83 is one of my favorite years, and the setlist looks like it won’t disappoint, though that doesn’t really matter as long as the playing is good, right? I haven’t heard this show, and don’t have plans to until this arrives. Been digging the Help>Slip!>Franklins from ‘83(4/9, 9/2, 9/11), and I’m glad to see one hear too. Plus a Shakedown, Must’ve Been the Roses, and a Dew?! This is gonna be one hell of a release. And the art?! This is very exciting for me. Hope everyone gets this in due time, praying no one has to deal with these shipping fiascos.

Edit: I’m also pretty sure that this is the first officially released version of Maybe You Know. Good to see.

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Keithfan -

I have been, and will continue to hope, pray, cajole and pound the table for the whole Boston '69 scene, from The Ark to the Tea Party shows. I was REALLY hoping the 2019 boxed set would be the 50th anniversary of these shows, was less than impressed with what we got that year, but it is what it is. Until then, GIMME THAT '69 BOSTON BOXED SET, Dave! Please. Pretty please.

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Hey!! Rockers!!!!

I saw 5 shows on that Spring 83 east coast tour, and while 4/26 wasn't my favorite (Providence was, because of the Cumberland and China/Rider), for its era, that Philly show was pretty good. If you're a fan of the old time grease you might not care for it, but if you're an 80s fan I think you'll enjoy it. I know I did...............

LOL back then I seemed to be a Morning Dew magnet......

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A great show for the era. Our own Oroborous tossed this show out on the pick of the day thread a couple weeks ago.. so I have a fresh listen. I had never listened to it before and to my ears it's as good or better than the other 83 releases to date. A pretty Jerry centric show that really shines at high volumes. The vocals are what they are, but it's pretty high energy and a decent recording for the era.

Dennis.. your Stealie Ouija Board was only off by a month! Amazing show to toss out.. so close.

Seems familiar. Think I had it on cassette, then CD-R.
Will have to check the list when I get a chance.

I have no problem with the third release of the year being a Brent show. And we know that there are some smoking shows (summer 84, 85) that need to get Normanized and sent our way.

No tracking info yet. Hopefully it arrives Fri or Sat.

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My list shows that I have 4-26-83 Miller.97544.
Don’t know how long it’s been since I listened to it.

4/13 is an exceptional show as well. The They Love Each Other from that show is absolutely my favorite version. Plus a Cumberland and a Far From Me in the first set. The Scarlet>Fire is always nice to hear too. This was a peak year for the combo. And a Dew too! This show should get an official release at some point, but for right now, I’m happy with 4/26 being picked.

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I saw the Dead 19 times in1983, I had a blast and saw some great shows. Looks like a great pick. Ok Dave, time cut loose with some red hot 1969 for Daves #40, two great shows please.

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I was freshman in H.S. when this show was played. My H.S. graduation picture had some chick who held up a huge stealie in the back row. This was the time I realized she was telling us to get on the bus. I'm glad I listened.

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Hey, I remember this show, we were there. It was the first time I heard Man Smart, Woman Smarter, and we couldn't figure the song title out.

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