One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.
First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.
Thanks for the Byrd info. I am a touch younger, although still gettin close to 60. Been meaning to revisit the Byrds. Have their first two albums which I procured in high school. Now I am going to get his book.
Will be listening to Seattle this weekend, really, cannot wait. Why did you stop at 1980 Maine? Set list looks like a rager.
Might I ask how many were you fortunate to see? Any disappointed misses?
I am grateful for the shows I was fortunate to see. All were pretty big road trips. Looks like you were a road warrior also.
Thanks for hanging around here. What I wouldnt give to have a camp fire meeting with the freaks on here.
Edit: I have thought about contacting Mr. Miller. I have an old box taped up for 25+ years. It has some tasty boards. I have an awesome 70's Allman Brothers Band and a extremely funcky Neville Brothers show opening for GD. Might have to see if the time capsule is anything, get what might be good digitized and quit hauling that box around. Move to much.
Glad you enjoy the FoxBox, it was an awesome weekend. As I stated then, I ran into the fellas a few times, they recognized my car tag. Greg lived around here for a while and have a close friend who was a close friend of his. My friend played with him some. He met Gregg thru Johnny Sandlin. I met Johnny a few times, great guy.
But yeah fun fun. Huge hotel bar and food tab.
The Fox Weekend
Gary, that Fox weekend would have been one for the ages! I read you are going back over the Byrds catalogue - so much great stuff in there, and some genius writing and playing by guys in the band like Gram Parsons, Clarence White, or the guy beside me in my avatar, Chris Hillman. Like the Dead, they are one band - including offshoots - I never tire of listening to.
Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets
- Another Green World
Fripp & Eno - No Pussyfooting
Robert Fripp - Exposure (3rd Edition)
JD Souther - Tenderness
I picked the latter, because after a Fripp/Eno junket, I needed lyrics and drums, and no synths
PS - Oro is right - nice to see Strider on the boards again.
opened for who in 1971?
Adolph, Rudolph, Pissoff, and Jackoff
Unrelated to daves 42, i know
"Strider" reminds me of an old commercial
Shock absorber product "gabriel stryders, king of the road"
Now you know
On the subject of off the subject
Seeing Electric Warrior in Ledded's last 5 yesterday reminded me that the T. Rex 1972 box is coming out tomorrow. I ordered that so long ago, I had forgotten about it.
Actually to keep it Dead related, Gary Lambert had a pop at T. Rex in his sleeve notes for the cd of 4/7/72 in the trunk . A very dated comment, which reminds me of the time when people who liked rock music only tended to listen to one particular type, and looked down on people who didn't share their taste.
The cover art for this one - I didn't realize there's a Wall of Sound in that ship. Cell phone image too small, but just saw it on my laptop. Yeah it's a cool one. Do we know what's on the Bonus Disc yet? Oh - and I really like The Other One from today's 50 year anniversary of the Beat Club performance. Sounds Dark Starish in places TBD. Dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it....
My subscription copy of the June 2022 issue of Mojo has just been delivered. There is an article about the ‘72 visit to Europe and the free CD is a GD compilation ‘ From The Bay To The Pool - Live 1971 - 1978’ There are 10 tracks all previously issued. Should be an interesting listen.
Edit: I see there is also an article about Mighty Baby.
Edit 2: My wife has just told me it’s Iggy Pop’s 75th birthday!
Ship of Fools
Super excited for DaP42. '74 is such a sweet year to my ears. I've always been a "both the book and the cover" person and I love the cover art. That ship with the Wall of Sound is so very cool, the sunset sky, the flooded streets. For me right up there with the Tony Millionaire Wizard of Oz masterpiece for DaP 11.
and yes, lest i forget, thanks nitecat (and the Charlie Miller team) for getting your tapes up on the archive. spun set II from Seattle yesterday. never got to see a set II Let It Grow from that era and always thought it was particularly cool song placement.
We, (well I anyway), don't see what's right in front of face a lot of times. I noticed that although 42 is a 74 show,,,, it says "Listening Party 1971".
What a great sounding recording regardless :-)
Thanks Mr. Wiseman
The 6-13-80 tape is indeed very nice. I am digging into your 6-8-80 recording now and I do believe it may be the best - well my favorite anyway - of the recordings available from that show and there are several.
Was just watching the movie "The Gong Show",,,,, I haven't seen it in 40 years. Caught the last 5 minutes.
There is the unknown comic,,,
"Chuckie, Chuckie, Chuckie!!!! Come here, I'm gonna tell you a joke that will make you look like an asshole............ Oh I see you've already heard it!!!!"
the great unknown
Now Dennis, that's my kind of humor....
Oliver Nelson - The Blues & The Abstract Truth
Los Lobos - Chuy's Tape Box Vol 1 (Live in Santa Barbara '84)
The Butterfield Blues Band - The Original Lost Elektra Sessions
Elliot Sharpe & Henry Kaiser - Electric Willie; A Tribute to Willie Dixon
Grateful Dead - Ventura 7-18-82 AUD...great sounding show (ONE MORE SET!!!)...on the headphones I can hear the wind and smell the ocean...
the unknown comic....
....now THERE'S a blast from the past.
Lol. My CAPTCHA this post was buses. Makes sense.
I recall your tape of 12/26/79 being stellar!
Nappy/ 7/18/82 Ventura
Nappy, Ventura was a blast! I enjoyed all the years there, but I think 1982 was my favorite. Ventura would make a great box set!
I got the answer. Zappa/Mothers. Weird but I was playing show #1 in the new box just as I read your post. Excellent set, by the way.
Ventura 7 18 82
My first show
It would be a great release
I figure it's not in the vault with no soundboard anyway
I do have an audience copy
Note: waiting in parking lot at veterinarian while I hear the yellow dog story from 1 23 70
Nice work Aliced
I think its this show that Blair Jackson wrote about in the opening chapter of his book "The Music Never Stopped". As much about the scene as the actual music - I can still remember reading it on the train back from Manchester to Oldham in 1983. Fascinating.
Incidentally, at the end of the book he reviews some of the best tapes available at that time - the first time I knew such things existed. I wondered how I would go about getting and hearing these some of these shows he talked about. Little did I know what was on the horizon.
The version of 7-18-82 I was playing was recently made available by the usual gang of idiots in 24 bit...so much thanks go out to these folks who keep us in mind and supply these shows...
It's a go!!!
My accountant insists that I make the trek to Vegas on May 5th & 6th...on Cinco De Mayo I shall be at the Theater At Virgin Hotel (formerly the Hard Rock Joint, when did this happen?) for el Mariachi Vargas de Tecalitlán, the finest mariachi there is and on the 6th I shall be at Boulder Station for Los Lobos, finest band in the land...makes it easy for the Boulder show as that's where I'll be staying...so live music, Zia Records, good food and a Crown Royal rocks sounds good...Oh this is all in celebration of the fact that I have a new job dispatching for a shuttle company that travels twice daily from the South Rim to the North Rim from May 15th to November 15th...that should keep me in pork chop money....
Nappy, congratulations on your new job.
Cousins, thanks, 12/26/79 will be up on the Archive soon.
And everyone, thanks for all the kind words. The Archive provides a proper place to share these recordings, just as I did 30 years ago with close deadhead friends.
Los Lobos is coming to Vegas on the 6th??....
Nite Cat That Mike
Nite Cat: Dang that 12/26/79 show is a favorite of mine. I always say it may be my favorite show that I didn't see. That show just hits all my aural pleasures. Bet that was a lot of fun. Can't wait to hear your audience compared to SB. Had to be good as it was Dick's 5th, so know he liked it.
That Mike: noticed the new pic/avatar but had not looked at it closely. Awesome!
Anybody go to the Skull and Roses show at Ventura earlier this month? Stumbled across that earlier today on youtube. Have saved for later. They have a faux WoS above the stage. Sweet. I have some other buddies that do an Ozzy tribute and do it well. My friend Ed about a decade ago took ply wood and speaker stickers to make it look like they have a big bank of Marshall's. Looks cool but still just ply wood and speakers. And wow, are they loud. I rarely even go see them. I wrote last year about a friend that worked for Ultrasound for almost 20 years. He mixes them and he mixes them loud. Makes my ears ring just thinking about it.
Listened to a chunk of DaP 13 2/24/74 today since I had a longer commute than usual and in preparation for the Ship gliding in one day soon. Always super excited for a 1974 show, just because of that wondrous sound, and Phil's thunderous notes and Jerry's pristine trills fluttering together is just heavenly. Great China> Rider, decent Playing, a ripping Cumberland, and a great WRS> Row Jimmy, Ship of Fools, and I got the first few minutes of Dark Star, which I'll start over for tomorrow's ride in. Can't wait to compare and contrast the 20 min Other One from 42 vs 13's 30 min Dark Star, and the WRS is even bigger on 42, and melts into a dream, so that should be nice. The Bonus is gravy, like getting two Ships for the price of one. Wonder which arrives first: DaP 1 vinyl or DaP 42?
New daves will be sold out by end of day friday
Lets C if im ryte
I predict this
SELLS OUT @ 7:44AM PDT 04/22/22
I could be wrong, but I believe it's already sold out. Still.. I think you nailed it (almost)
I feel both remorse and pride.. remorse for those that missed it by that much balanced by the pride to see another Great 74 GD get the delayed love it earned long ago.
Happy for those that will get this and sad for those that either won't or have to pay more.
The thing with 74, love it or not.. there were only 40 shows the whole year and most have been released by this point. Plus, it's one of the relatively few apex periods. Not perfect, not flawless but far from secondary. idk.. feels a bit special to me but I am clearly biased.
Be good all, but not too good.
My Cumberland radar pinged....
Imperfection is perfection
1974 isn't perfect by any means, but that may be why its such an enduring year. Genuine developing, growing in front of your ears, living and breathing music. Chances still being taken- some things work-some don't - but the overall approach, for me, does.
I guess you could say that for any year , and you either like the approach in question...or you don't.
Nap and pork chop money
Bet you're a fan of "the man who shot liberty valance" :-)
I love Dave's description of this show as a great rock and roll show. Those are the shows that always grabbed me, especially the shows of the 1980s and 1990s. I had friends in grad school (1995-98) who were Heads and we had one argument that would never let up-- I loved Bob songs and they did not like them and really generally did not care for Bob. They were very Jerry-centric. I was always asking, how can you not like half the songs of any given concert? I never did get a good answer to that one.
Especially in the 1980s and 1990s eras, Bob songs were the rockers. Jerry had his rockers, but lots of ballads that I always felt slowed down a set, especially that post D/S ballad slot. While it may be sacrilege to some on here, there are to this day Jerry ballads that I skip every time (after a first listen to see how it is). So, yes Dave Lemieux, give me a rocking show and this one appears to have the goods.
Miles Davis: Live at Fillmore East
Rolling Stones: Love You Live
Tedeschi Trucks Band: Live at Oakland Fox
Count Basie: April In Paris
Taj Mahal: The Real Thing (Live 1971 Fillmore East)
DaP 40, Deer Creek 1990
Gary F - Shows
Gary F, I have a mini 'Deadbase Jr.' that lists all Dead shows with checks by each show I saw. I count over 400 shows. I was lucky to live in the Bay Area, where in later years, the Dead did long runs at several Bay Area venues, Frost, Greek, Cal Expo, Shoreline, Kaiser, Oakland Colseum, BCT, Marin Civic, SF Civic.
Early on in 1972 at Berkeley Community Theater I saw two shows back to back, 8/24 and 8/25. Or possibly 8/22 and 8/24. After the second night, I realized I had seen a completely different show than the night before, and if I went to several shows, I could hear a wider range of songs. From that point on, I did complete runs as much as possible. Tickets were so much cheaper then, and I had less demands on my wallet.
I also began traveling in around 1978 to see the boys. I would go see any show in California. I had this theory that they played better, more energetic shows on the road, and busted out rarities, too. Not sure if this was true, or not, but I began traveling to Socal, up to the Northwest, and out to Red Rocks. So I guess you could call me a Road Warrior, it was exciting on the road going to see the boys.
Gary, not sure what you are referring to about stopping at 1980 Maine.
Disappointed misses? If I'd known I might have made it to Harding Theater in 1971. I was in Europe in 1973 so I missed Kezar 73. I never made it to the East Coast for a Spring or Fall Tour. All in all, I feel eternally blessed to have been born in the right place and in the right time.
Good Evening Dead.net. (vampire like voice)Having a rough week, We will get by, but been really enjoying the chat here for this release especially nitecat, vguy72, keithfan, etc. and other frequent members posting good vibes. Did Long Strange Trip and Grateful Dead movie recently and Love Crazy Wall Of Sound! Also just started binging X-Files again hehe can't get enough. Oh and Stanley Cup Playoffs just on the horizon..........Last five includes lotsa anniversary Dead March-April soon May Europe 72 always in play....anyhow
1. Dirty Dancing 20th anniversary edition side note my parents stopped by my work today when I was listening to this and the song "Hey! Baby" (Bruce Channel) was on and my Dad said it was banned when he was young??
2. Bob Marley-Talkin' Blues
3. Goerge Jones-Hits I Missed...
4. Pixies-Wave of Mutilation
5. Eddie Money-Right Here which includes good rock n roll plus ballad I'll Get By somewhat tribute to Bill Graham
Did 4/22/78 Nashville today too
Some excellent sounding Tapes NiteCat. I am in awe.
Thanks for sharing stories over the years and thanks so much for both taping as many shows as you have and graciously sharing them with us. Seriously, I cannot thank you enough.
Back to your previously scheduled 1974 five star all you eat buffet
That is some perspective
Only 40 shows all of '74?? I knew they had to curtail things a bit, I didn't realize it was THAT many. I was coincidentally counting '71 shows first half of the year the other night, and they had 40 under their belt by end of April. Wall of Sound - the Titanic sound system.
Print the legend Ace....You hear the story about Ford and him goading Stewart about Woody Strode's costuming as Old Pompey...He kept pressing Stewart what he thought of it and Stewart finally told him he thought it was a bit "Uncle Remus"...Ford got after him asking if he was a secret racist...Ford made great movies but he sure was a dick...
Please check your PM's..........
Over 400 shows Nitecat?....
I'm at an even 60. Born too late. Still grateful to be present and accounted for.
Rough weeks are an understatement. Been there. Still there.
This corner of the internet is my occasional refuge from the storms.
It'll be aok.
I Doubled up....
"New Daves Will Be Sold Out By End Of Day Friday"....
.....let's C if I'm ryte
You were ryte Stoltz. 🍻
4/22/79. & 2/17/79
These 2 shows would make a great double release. "New ones coming as the old ones go".