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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    vocal dropouts

    Seem to be a characteristic of 1974 shows. But the funny thing is...it's never Donna who seems to be dropped out. You would think they might wipe some of her triumphant screams off the end of the Playing jams. Blame it on the reels.

  • dovetail
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    Who hears repeated dropouts…

    Who hears repeated dropouts on vocals in this #42 set especially disc 2? (see reports of such on-line elsewhere)?

  • Exile On Main St.
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    Dear J3FF

    I can't believe people are griping about the song order. There is no reason to waste space on another CD, just to have the songs in order. Add another disc and then a contingency will complain there is only a half hour of music on one CD, and they want bonus tracks. Or that Dark Star / St Stephen / The Eleven was divided over two discs. While cost may be no problem for you, it is for others. Go buy a CD changer and program the tracks in the correct order.

    To say Lemieux is disrectful to the fans for this is a gross stretch of reality. It is because he respects rhe fans that he did this. It is easy to see he loves the fans and is eager to get great music to us. And you insult him. That us the problem with your post. Yes you are entitled to your opinion. No you are not entitled to throw accusations and make people feel bad. You owe an apology.

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    Random gripe

    The builders of my townhouse made a slanted roof with planters.

    The bar holding them in place at the angle should be held by 10 bolts.

    How many bolts did they actually install?

    Six.

    That leads to pains in the tookess, people.

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    Non-GD music

    What do these have in common?

    Led Zeppelin
    Pink Floyd
    Moody Blues
    Rolling Stones
    King Crimson
    Motorhead
    Sex Pistols
    Sweet
    ELP
    ELO
    The Who

    Identify the commonality in these artists and you win!

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    ‘69 Dead Again

    I’m really enjoying this release, some new songs for me…Seasons of my Heart and Gathering Flowers…Plus two more Dark Stars, Yum.
    Nice archival newspaper clips about Live Dead.
    The sound is great too, big thanks to Owsley for our now-future enjoyment.

    Also if coupled with Dave’s Picks 6 we have11/2, 12/20, 12/21, 12/26 1969 and 2/2 1970.
    For the song/show playing sequence I’ll quote Jerry from the 11/2 show:-) “this evening is fraught with difficulties, absolutely fraught with difficulties”

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    Dear Dave-

    So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

    I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

    If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

    If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

    You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

    Thanks!

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    Row 22, Jimmy?

    Realizing just now that the illustrious VGuy waltzed right past me last night in row 22 at Red Rocks!

    I appreciated his "Make America Grateful Again" t-shirt at the time, he must not have seen my House of Guitars tee or I know he would have stopped for a fist bump!

    Next I get to stroll down to the mailbox to pick up DP 43 (no shipping notice, but I got the heads up from my account with USPS- pro tip).

    Let the good times roll! And now back to your regularly scheduled Gathering Flowers For The Master's Bouquet...

  • Charlie3
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    What He Said

    I also would prefer releases have the show in original sequence, with any bonus content at one end or the other of the main show of the release rather than interspersed throughout. I'd rather pay for an extra disc to keep the sequence intact, rather than to chop it up to fit on three discs. I suspect that this may be the minority view based on past discussions about bonus content and out of sequence songs.

  • J3FF
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    So I know this is off topic …

    So I know this is off topic ;D but regarding Dave's Picks... Dave- I'm ever-grateful to get to hear this music but can you PLEASE give us the shows as they were performed instead of mixing them together (#43 is an especially jumbled mess).

    Thank you.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Sshhhhhhhhhhhh, we’re on a mission from god!
Mike, I told ya not too tell anybody ; )

11/24/78: always wondered why this hasn’t gotten the treatment?
Perhaps because It is widely circulated?
I know it was radio broadcast and I thought it was video PPV or…?
I know it was definitely recorded for archival and/or other intentions.
Not sure, just know I’ve seen the video many times since then, and there are good versions on blutoob.
This show was a big early influencer on my teenage pea brain as it was one of my earliest tapes and having very few I played the hell out of it! It took place around the time I was fully becoming a freak, or at least a DH. This, the New Years show, and some Orpheum 76s were probably my first tapes and had the most influence on my transition.

Some many great one liners too, it’s like Bobs boning up for a career as MC lol.
But hey, I’d just wish they’d get these elephants off the stage!

I used to think Jerry was outta his mind as I believe this was around when he was really getting it on with the Persian etc, but have learned he was very sick. Being sick, perhaps a little of both? In fact I’ve heard there were rumors the show almost got cancelled like the following ones? And yes his voice shows it at times but my god he’s on fire! You can tell if you watch the video. He’s rocking back and forth and moving around and really into it.
This show is a must see for any self respecting head who’s never seen it!

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Zappa in New York
Cruisin' for Burgers

Just now had my virgin listen

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I am!!!!! I was hoping for BOXSET '22 to be from Boston Garden '91 but the multiple years clue kind of wiped out that pipe dream. So I figured why not 6 shows from The Spectrum I'm down. How about a boxset featuring 6 shows from the BCT?!!!!

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Every show has a smoking (crater of my mind) Shakedown.

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I used to have thin-sounding cassette of the second set. I will check it today.

To the archive!

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9/12/81 great Shakedown opener! Frank Zappa & the Mothers, my brother saw them play in 1970 at the Fillmore West, they put on a great show. Music is the best,, especially with bbq, lots of good cold beer, Grateful Dead & killer blues music! The big 1969 box is on the way!

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shows I saw...

Long Beach August 28, 1981
Red Rocks June 14, 1984
Red Rocks September 7, 1985
Oakland December 31, 1989

shows I heard...

San Francisco December 31, 1984
Merriweather June 30, 1985

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Seems like they played Shakedown at every show I saw in the early to mid 80s.

Attended 6/30/85. Prefer 12/31/84 followed by 4/6/82.

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7/6/87 Set II opener (Nevilles show) is my fave of those I saw

partial to those in the Godchaux era

Long Beach '81 show smokes.

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....taking my granddaughter and her soon to be husband (they're getting married in August and I'm walking her down the aisle) to her first concert in September. Def Leppard / Motley Crue / Poison / Joan Jett. I hope they last the tour. Tommy Lee playing with broken ribs and can hold on for maybe half the set, then today Poison cancelled their set due to Bret Michaels having to be hospitalized due to a medicinal reaction. I hope they can last the tour. They're getting up there.
Saw Poison in 1984ish before they hit it big in a club of maybe 500. Saw Crue open for KISS roughly the same time and the crowd booed KISS yelling "bring back the Crue!!" I was 16 in 1984 and was impressionable and realized I loved live music.
Good times.
Edit. My step-granddaughter in case y'all are doing the math.

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I was also at the show, great show, great Shakedown.

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A funky tune to be sure. They played it a bunch at the shows I saw in the 80's too.. most notably 6/30/85. They played this on Sirius yesterday for TIGDH. The jam is solid, it surely ranks up there. Poor Jer's voice is a big ragged for this one. Being there, I thought the Cryptical was the special moment but in hindsight Jerry couldn't match the vocal range he was going for. The next night has its moments too, I like those 84 and 85 Dancing in the Streets (well, I like the 1970 versions better but that's another story for another day).

Shakedown might be the closest the GD ever got to PFunk. (edit: ok.. ok.. I get it, you in the back, stop throwing bottles and cans, no offense meant).

I was at the Pittsburgh show at the end of the tour too.. I enjoyed those Neville/GD shows during that period.

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Finally got around to watching the 11-24-78 video y'all recommended.
Excellent and Jerry is really animated.
Comments section one says they were on mescaline.
Another says Jerry was hospitalized the next day and on a ventilator.
And almost died?
I also learned the hard way to not trip during or while recovering from an illness.
You might think you're OK but your body knows better.
But some good bud does help with flu or stomach issues.
Now on to the other Shakedowns for GOAT comparisons.
11-24-78 is not the GOAT.
Cheers
Edit:
Brought back a memory of post trip while sick events.
Still in a fugue a day or two later while Shakedown album playing and my roommate grabbed the metal refrigerator door handle exactly when lighting struck VERY nearby and he got a big shock! Hand hurt for days.
And yes, that's the song that was playing. I recall your darkness (mine) when it crackled like a thunder cloud.
I was sure I had caused it.

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Actually, the use of "BOAT" is -- or should be generally recognized as -- a mere provocation. Just like guitarists, beer, ice cream -- there's just the moment and the current perceptions and preferences of individuals, who I have noticed vary widely.

Jimi said the "best guitarist in the world" is whomever is hitting that note in that moment. Coffee ice cream or mint chip -- which is best? (This is a well-known Zen koan...) It's whatever the hell I prefer right now. As for Shakedown, the BOAT is the one you're shakin' your down to at this moment.

How 'bout THAT for slippin' and slidin'?? You can only imagine how I slide out of accountability with women........

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Always such a great “get on your feet” tune that could morph into a decent jam tune.

Oro - I saw the good folks in Denver gather en masse to throw the AVs a great party! The crowd was HUGE, looked like everyone was well behaved, and having a great time. So nice to see crowds get out and celebrate a little civic pride, because quite often when folks gather like this, they are pretty pissed about something, and things turn dark pretty quick. Anyway, good on Denver, and I hope you were there doing your own drunken “Shakedown”, Oro!

Dennis - I gave the first Charles Lloyd “trio” disc a listen, and my first impression is Meh! Both Lloyd and Frisell really sound muted in their playing. I’ll have to give it a few plays, but so far, it ain’t so hot.

Finally - Well wishes to all my fellow DHs here from north of the 49th parallel - it’s our national holiday up here (Canada Day).

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I wonder what it's gonna be? Unfortunately, what I always wish for ( 1969/1970) is always wrong, so it won't be that. Check Amazon, they always release something related to the box set before it is ever announced on here, ( vinyl, or a single show cd.).

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I say they combine the newly discovered June '68 tape with the so-far vinyl-only release of October 21(?) '68 with two more discs of '68 partials for a 6-disc '68 package.

Okay, I'm gonna need a toke to make that sound in any way plausible... (But they gotta do SUMPTHIN with those '68 tapes before I lose interest (i.e., croak).)

P.S. Oro, don't think I didn't catch you throwing asparagus with that "rat to cheese" remark, bro!

I agree HF, there really isn’t a BOAT etc, their all the best!
Or as Jimmy would say, “the one I just listened to was best”.
Personally, I think it’s futile to even try except for a little fun, and hey, by trying to think (ouch) what’s best, one often starts to remember good things and memories, so that’s a plus too!

I was just trolling ya in a fun way cause I know how to summon the genie outta the bottle. And hey no harm no foul cause I know your down with fun, and look how many posts we generated with our fun!

Happy Canada Day eh!
I’ll be cracking my first Molson Brador with my HST style bfast!

1stshow: that’s the stuff! Cool tale, I wish I would of collected data/notes over the years about that awesome cosmic GD serendipity that seems to occur quite often, especially when fully open and seeing the light in the strangest of places!
Would have made a hell of a book!

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Email just dropped 15% off at Rhino 4th of July sale.
And the harsh teaser from Dead.net that only tells us the 7-13 announcement date for 43. As well as their "selected" 30% off sale.
Wait, what? My Light Into Ashes purchase now discounted?
Certainly thought that would sell out quick when I jumped on that one.
Goes to show you just never know.

Thanks Oro. Thought that story might strike a nerve (ZAP!) with this gang.
Turns out the lightning struck a huge old tree in our backyard and started the ancient garage out back by the alley on fire! House was a classic college student rental built early 1900's and the cloth wrapped wiring was from the 30's.
That garage (landlord wouldn't let us use; had his stuff in it) was a carriage house (had horse stalls) BITD.
Glad I didn't have my car in there.
Cheers
Edit: Now Garcia family sale too. Progressive discounts, spend more - save more (uh... kinda).

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No box announcement til after August 1.

Never thought I'd be disappointed to hear about the next Dave's. But for some reason, I'm not overly optimistic that it'll turn my crank. I rest easy, however, knowing it'll turn someone's crank, and that's good enough.

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You all are KILLING me here! I chased that song for 23 shows from '91-'93 and never got a Shakedown.

Wave that flag, but don't catch them ol' U.S. Blues, friends! :)

Be kind, rewind.

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Got it - it's best of all time, isn't it.

I wonder if they have any stats or ideas at deadnet about which years sell best, worst and inbetween. And if they do, if this influences what they release. Maybe they do, and that is why 1977 has been so favoured.

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Funny that someone mentioned the best Shakedown I have heard-- the 7/6/87 Pittsburgh edition with the Neville Brothers joining set II after. That is a hot one with a great funky groove in the jam. Just exactly perfect.

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On "another forum," someone posted that on yet "another forum" that Mark Pincus has publicly (source?) said that mid-July will bring a multi-year box announcement, possibly containing two shows. And that MUATM will be revived with newly discovered footage "relevant to this year." (So... E72 footage? This summer?)

Make of it what you will. Should be confirmed or refuted in about two weeks.

What?? Two weeks without any sleep?? Geez................

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Like I said I'm partial to the Godchaux-era Shakedowns. They are a totally different beast from those in the Brent-era. And don't get me wrong, there are awesome Brent-era Shakedowns. With Brent I skew towards the early years but 7/6/87 kicked ass. Caution - Driver listening to Hot Shakedown.

A couple of months ago I stumbled into some forgotten music (forgotten by me) in the collection - the Egypt release.

Pretty much fresh ears it had been so long. And among the many many revelations I was captivated by the Shakedown. So very-much-out-there-freaking-good. Outro jam is beautiful. Multiple listens (including right now.) At some point realized it had to be the second live version. First is Red Rocks 8/31.

The Cap Theater Shakedown 11/24 is a a fave. Had that one early on and it undoubtedly colored my world on this. Several months ago Bolo pointed the POTDWD crowd to the video of that show because there's a point where Jerry is in a major "zone" jamming and Bob turns to the drummers and asks "Where is he going?" or something similar. Funny as heck. I feel like its out of Estimated into Shakedown. Will revisit after Egypt Disc 2.

Like Dead Head Brewer says - Wave that Flag but don't get those US Blues!! Safe and happy 4th everyone.

Onward!!

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Dark Star jam - Spanish jam - US Blues at 3/23/74 is grrreat. Dave spicks 34. Feels like the song was written for that moment.

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Thx Bluecrow! Did someone say Red Rocks? I've always been an "it's underrated" guy on 8/30-8/31,78. Even our CA (our experienced GD guru) buddy in our crowd liked the new rave up of disco Dead tunes which Shakedown sort of fell into. Definitely not in the whaat is this crowd. His reaction to 7-8-78 was more of a what the f was that. Shaking his head the whole time. They are out of control and it was great. May have been his first post hiatus show.
Cheers

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That has a suh-MO-kin' version of U.S. Blues! I'll pull at least that one song out for Monday. I'm declaring it here and now to be a BOAT version. :-O

Now that I think about it, today's the anniversary of that killer Willie show--7/1/78

:)))

BOAT or not, HF is right: 8/13/79 is hot.

this is 100% true: during Shakedown Street a dude walked by with his dog. The dude had a Skull and Roses shirt GRATEFUL DEAD

I love it

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11 5 85 worcester has some good stuff

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mmm.. I thought BOAT was biggest of all joints. Damned dyslexia.

Loved the Shakedown talk.. I am terrible at best ever.. unless it was a total train wreck the last listen tends to rank high. My last Shakedown was 6/30/85.

I swear someone mentioned Bolo. I started watching this show called Old Man.. I swear it's Bolo. (notice, if someone else mentioned him and there's two references above.. that makes three)

Bolo.. help... please help us with the next box set. With inflation, Ukraine, Putin the Terrible (smelling shit) and all the trouble in the world we could use some box set or Dave's Picks guidance even if you are just making it up. We need a twisted muse.

Rant over.. as you were.

(Streaming Phil's show. Love me some Phil)

And cheers to proudfoot for being perhaps the most positive influence here over the last 48 hours (there were 420 close ties for second)

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Speaking of GOAT shakedowns..

I decided to stream tonight's Phil show. W/ Scofield, Haynes, Molo, Medeski & A. Helms. Spectacular. I gravitate towards Phil when he get's a Jazzy ensemble. Holy cow.. Perhaps the best SD I have ever seen.

Shakedown Street >
The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys >
St Stephen >
Unbroken Chain
Help/Slipknot!/Franklins
Midnight Hour

Very, very good.

Scofield was immaculate, really perfect.

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WHY is of "not released" status?

Hot stuff.

In Blair Jackson's book TMNS he lists shows recommended for collection. 8/13/79 is on the list...

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Wow. That is a damn good setlist. I posted last week that Low Spark is one of my all time favorite songs.

I will take Phil and his buddies over Dead and Co. all day long.

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Just got this email form deadnet

SAVE THE DATE:
DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 43

We're rounding 3rd with a killer complete, unreleased show. What will it be? You'll just have to show up to find out. 10am PT, Wednesday, July 13th is the time. Dead.net is the only place.
drp out

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Thank you

Only 11 days away...

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That timing is interesting. Wasn’t there some recent scuttle about the box news dropping also around the middle of the month? Seems unusual? Or maybe I’m just all confused, so what’s to lose, you can call this song, the United States baaa lllluuuuuzzzzzeeee!

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Daves mid july

Box early august

MUATM "is anybody's guess"

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Had a weird month and a half:

Got COVID at a Gov't Mule show in Reno

Ran a half marathon and messed up my hip

Eulogized my amazing father on two occasions - tough stuff

Endured the Golden State Warriors celebrations with negligible brain damage

Kept having recurring dreams about being chased by bears. I'm convinced I'll eventually meet my demise at the hands (paws) of an ursine menace. They're watching me.

Shakedown: watch the video of the Essen version. The interplay between Jerry and Bobby, particularly toward the end, is improvisational perfection. Two people, two instruments, one mind.

Safe and sane, folks.

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Hoping for 12/01/79 a show that's just ripe for the full Norman.

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